Silly macuser, if you're doing REAL number crunching, get an alpha. I don't understand the fascination people have with PowerPCs, if you're going to lose x86 compatibility, why go to another 32bit dead end? I mean, yeah, the G4 is a nice chip, but alphas are better, and you get get em pretty cheap nowadays too. You really hit it on the head there, Photoshop is the primary application on the mac that needs more speed. Most serious 3d modelling is done on an SGI or an intel w/ an intergraph or E&S.
The problem with this name is that it will become outdated quickly. I remember being awestruck when I saw a DUAL-P90!!! I couldn't comprehend that much power. Now a machine like that is only useful by virtue of running Linux.
ONE LAST TIME. symmetric and asymmetric key lengths are totally different beasts! a 512bit asymmetric key being cracked says very little about 128bit symmetric key security. Please learn about cryptography, since you KNOW you can't trust companies or the government about it.
Wow is that dated. The newer versions (presumably after microsoft strong armed them) of quicken install IE4 automatically, and are not usable without it. For no good technical reason, Intuit has deeply tied their product to IE. Remind you of somebody else yet?
Since all of these OSes have different kernels, and different versions of gcc, your "benchmark" literally means nothing. Even something as simple as the compiler options in the makefile void your results.
If you're a smart developer, and using OpenGL, and letting it handle transforms, you the speed-up for free. Those lost souls using D3D will have to rewrite yet again. The reason OpenGL is always so far ahead is that all these "innovations" are really just moving workstation class features to the consumer market. OpenGL has been used on those workstations for years. At least when nvidia borrows a workstation feature they don't rename it and claim to have invented it (Accumulation buffer -> "T-buffer").
I assume you're just trolling, but i'll respond anyway. All those linux distributions have the same kernel, and most of the same userspace. The filesystem layouts are very similar. The differences between the BSDs are much bigger than the difference between say, redhat and debian.
libc issues aren't. On my glibc2.1 based system, I can run glibc2.1, glibc2.0 and libc5 apps. Hell, I can even run OLD a.out binaries.
Actually, as far as "media performance" goes Linux has recently made some great strides. mingo released a patch that reduces scheduling latencies to under 5 milliseconds, and David Olofson has ported the linux sound drivers to RT-Linux so that linux can now do sound processing with a signifigantly lower max latency than BeOS (~1 ms). NT and macos both need external DSP boards to be able to beat this (pricey, but they beat the hell out of anything you can do on a general purpose PC).
You've obviously never seen a major corporation deal with a crack. No one but the admins know about it, unless enough damage was done to be obvious to everyone, or a web page got tagged. Slashdotters hear about less than 1% of corporate security problems.
Algorithms are not "mathematical formulas"...they are *structures* that are composed from primitives (i.e. the basic instructions of various programming languages) A "mathematical formula" is a structure composed from primitives (i.e. the basic symbols used in mathmatics.) Expand your horizons, learn some of the theoretical basis of computer science, and you'll see that algoritms are quite clearly unpatentable.
BIND 8 has this, and has for a while. Copying standards and then making them incompatible with the rest of the world is the only way microsoft pushes the envelope.
thanks for making me laugh. I suppose having microsoft deny the existance of a REMOTELY exploitable buffer overflow in IIS for two weeks until someone PUBLICLY released an exploit is a better security model? I wonder how many hosts got compromised by crackers privately trading exploits on IRC in those two weeks while microsoft denied the existance of the problem?
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While I agree with the setiment, this kind of mindless advocacy doesn't work, and might even turn people off to debian. Debian 2.1 does not use glibc2.1 like redhat 6.0 does, and so this release of mozilla will not function. Unless you're suggesting s/he upgrade to potato, which is insane if you actually use your computer to get any work done.
The M$ media types access usenet (which was innovated by bill gates in 1996) using Microsoft DirectActiveNetnews v2.5sp9. It automatically CaPItAlIZeS random letters, and the next version will 4uT0 31337-sp33kX0r. When you click post, the default is to cross-post to every group on the net, and then some. Users that try to remove innapropriate groups will be made to feel stupid by a small animated paperclip. ActiveFlame will automatically question poster's species, and even automatically compare them to hitler, saving the user time. Thanks to Microsoft, we net users will now for the first time be able to form communities based on our common interests, and then destroy them.
Actually, lack of pointers should help performance. A major hinderance to optimizing C and/or C++ is that the compiler can't tell if you're aliasing pointers. High level functional languages have the potential with more research and a lot of effort to greatly outperform C. It was only recently that C++ could even compete with FORTRAN for numerical simulation speed. Higher level langauges (fortran is a bad example) give the compiler much more information about what you actually intended, so it can optimize more aggresively. There is lots of interesting research going on in this area.
In the future, please refrain from rational postings in a "I make more money than you"/"My daddy can beat up your daddy" flame-threads. They exist for my amusement only, and your post might (off chance, I know) spur someone to reconsider posting another amusing (and probably false) "I make 50000000000 a second thanks to microsoft/redhat" post. And that would make me very angry...
Linux runs fine on a 386. It's not what you want for development; I do a lot of compile/test cycles, so I want more speed. (I know, I'm responding to a troll...). As for "B": it looks like those MSCE courses didn't teach you to read. "At least" means that what I was saying is that one GOOD thing (perhaps the ONLY good thing) about the MSCE program is keeping people off welfare.
Do you know what a beowulf cluster is? I'll give you a hint, its not for webserving. PVM and MPI would be useless for 99.99% of web applications out there. In other words, it might be interesting to make a web serving cluster out of those 486s, but it would NOT be a beowulf. Go read the beowulf FAQ, it covers what exactly a beowulf is and isn't.
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Silly macuser, if you're doing REAL number crunching, get an alpha. I don't understand the fascination people have with PowerPCs, if you're going to lose x86 compatibility, why go to another 32bit dead end? I mean, yeah, the G4 is a nice chip, but alphas are better, and you get get em pretty cheap nowadays too. You really hit it on the head there, Photoshop is the primary application on the mac that needs more speed. Most serious 3d modelling is done on an SGI or an intel w/ an intergraph or E&S.
The problem with this name is that it will become outdated quickly. I remember being awestruck when I saw a DUAL-P90!!! I couldn't comprehend that much power. Now a machine like that is only useful by virtue of running Linux.
ONE LAST TIME. symmetric and asymmetric key lengths are totally different beasts! a 512bit asymmetric key being cracked says very little about 128bit symmetric key security. Please learn about cryptography, since you KNOW you can't trust companies or the government about it.
Wow is that dated. The newer versions (presumably after microsoft strong armed them) of quicken install IE4 automatically, and are not usable without it. For no good technical reason, Intuit has deeply tied their product to IE. Remind you of somebody else yet?
the newsgroup is not the best place for questions like this. Please submit it to linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu
And DAMN are they unpleasant to use. Wonder why there are NO C KDE apps? GTK+ is pure bliss to program in C. Go figure.
Since all of these OSes have different kernels, and different versions of gcc, your "benchmark" literally means nothing. Even something as simple as the compiler options in the makefile void your results.
If you're a smart developer, and using OpenGL, and letting it handle transforms, you the speed-up for free. Those lost souls using D3D will have to rewrite yet again. The reason OpenGL is always so far ahead is that all these "innovations" are really just moving workstation class features to the consumer market. OpenGL has been used on those workstations for years. At least when nvidia borrows a workstation feature they don't rename it and claim to have invented it (Accumulation buffer -> "T-buffer").
I assume you're just trolling, but i'll respond anyway. All those linux distributions have the same kernel, and most of the same userspace. The filesystem layouts are very similar. The differences between the BSDs are much bigger than the difference between say, redhat and debian.
libc issues aren't. On my glibc2.1 based system, I can run glibc2.1, glibc2.0 and libc5 apps. Hell, I can even run OLD a.out binaries.
Please explain. How exactly is a Ouiji board a tool of the devil?
Actually, as far as "media performance" goes Linux has recently made some great strides. mingo released a patch that reduces scheduling latencies to under 5 milliseconds, and David Olofson has ported the linux sound drivers to RT-Linux so that linux can now do sound processing with a signifigantly lower max latency than BeOS (~1 ms). NT and macos both need external DSP boards to be able to beat this (pricey, but they beat the hell out of anything you can do on a general purpose PC).
You've obviously never seen a major corporation deal with a crack. No one but the admins know about it, unless enough damage was done to be obvious to everyone, or a web page got tagged. Slashdotters hear about less than 1% of corporate security problems.
Algorithms are not "mathematical formulas"...they are *structures* that are composed from primitives (i.e. the basic instructions of various programming languages)
A "mathematical formula" is a structure composed from primitives (i.e. the basic symbols used in mathmatics.) Expand your horizons, learn some of the theoretical basis of computer science, and you'll see that algoritms are quite clearly unpatentable.
BIND 8 has this, and has for a while. Copying standards and then making them incompatible with the rest of the world is the only way microsoft pushes the envelope.
thanks for making me laugh. I suppose having microsoft deny the existance of a REMOTELY exploitable buffer overflow in IIS for two weeks until someone PUBLICLY released an exploit is a better security model? I wonder how many hosts got compromised by crackers privately trading exploits on IRC in those two weeks while microsoft denied the existance of the problem?
While I agree with the setiment, this kind of mindless advocacy doesn't work, and might even turn people off to debian. Debian 2.1 does not use glibc2.1 like redhat 6.0 does, and so this release of mozilla will not function. Unless you're suggesting s/he upgrade to potato, which is insane if you actually use your computer to get any work done.
When Linus has something important to say, he says it on the linux kernel mailing list. Later it will be posted by others here and at LT.
The M$ media types access usenet (which was innovated by bill gates in 1996) using Microsoft DirectActiveNetnews v2.5sp9. It automatically CaPItAlIZeS random letters, and the next version will 4uT0 31337-sp33kX0r. When you click post, the default is to cross-post to every group on the net, and then some. Users that try to remove innapropriate groups will be made to feel stupid by a small animated paperclip. ActiveFlame will automatically question poster's species, and even automatically compare them to hitler, saving the user time. Thanks to Microsoft, we net users will now for the first time be able to form communities based on our common interests, and then destroy them.
Actually, lack of pointers should help performance. A major hinderance to optimizing C and/or C++ is that the compiler can't tell if you're aliasing pointers. High level functional languages have the potential with more research and a lot of effort to greatly outperform C. It was only recently that C++ could even compete with FORTRAN for numerical simulation speed. Higher level langauges (fortran is a bad example) give the compiler much more information about what you actually intended, so it can optimize more aggresively. There is lots of interesting research going on in this area.
In the future, please refrain from rational postings in a "I make more money than you"/"My daddy can beat up your daddy" flame-threads. They exist for my amusement only, and your post might (off chance, I know) spur someone to reconsider posting another amusing (and probably false) "I make 50000000000 a second thanks to microsoft/redhat" post. And that would make me very angry...
Linux runs fine on a 386. It's not what you want for development; I do a lot of compile/test cycles, so I want more speed. (I know, I'm responding to a troll...). As for "B": it looks like those MSCE courses didn't teach you to read. "At least" means that what I was saying is that one GOOD thing (perhaps the ONLY good thing) about the MSCE program is keeping people off welfare.
linux allowed me to buy a $3000 laptop. That said, at least the MSCE program allows morons with no marketable skills to stay off welfare.
Do you know what a beowulf cluster is? I'll give you a hint, its not for webserving. PVM and MPI would be useless for 99.99% of web applications out there. In other words, it might be interesting to make a web serving cluster out of those 486s, but it would NOT be a beowulf. Go read the beowulf FAQ, it covers what exactly a beowulf is and isn't.
look at the URL you clicked on to get to the article. Search engines tend to highlight keywords.
notice that the inhouse "adfu" system appears to have been ditched in favor of "webfarm.mediaplex.com" This is not a flame, draw your own conclusions.