Coyotos picks up where EROS left off. From an application builder's perspective, the major change is that Coyotos removes persistence from the architecture. This leads to many simplifications in the implementation, and it has a bunch of consequences for the system utilities, but an application designer probably doesn't care that much -- if anything, it makes the system ``feel'' much more conventional.
EROS has other advanced features aside from capability based security:
What is Persistence?
Different systems use the word ``persistence'' to mean very different things.
In EROS, persistence means that the system periodically saves a copy of everything you are doing. If your dog trips and knocks the plug out of the wall (don't laugh - my dog actually did this to me), EROS will restart wherever it last saved your work, complete with windows, applications, and everything you typed.
Typical configurations of EROS save what you are doing every 5 minutes. In practice, this seems to be often enough to prevent major losses.
IIRC, you can do all kinds of fun things with your checkpoints, like point them at tape drives once in a while, or send them over the wire to hot backup hardware, or whatever. But the point is that you aren't backing up your disk, you are backing up your entire system state including running processes.
They also advertise that it is a RTOS, but I don't know what they mean by that in this case.
Dunno about this Coyotos thing, but a major point of EROS was its checkpointing system & memory architecture. In my completely uninformed understanding, the idea was that there was no filesystem, and the persistent disk was only used to provide virtual memory and checkpoint the memory state.
So if you turn off the computer, and turn it back on again, it loads the last checkpoint, and your processes are all running and in the same state. That's what they mean by "Extremely reliable". There are supposedly processes running in KeyKOS, a similar OS, that have been running since before the computer's current hardware had been built. If that makes sense.
But... "GNU's not Unix" was a JOKE. They called it "not Unix" because calling it Unix would have been illegal. Aside from the trademark issue, GNU is unix.
Anybody can read that. The point is that it takes slightly more time to read it.
IMH uninformed O, this is because on a low level we use push down automata to do this kind of language processing, and by reversing the letters rather than scrambling them we require more letters to be pushed before a solution is reached and they can all be popped.
Has it ever occured that due to information overload on the Internet that people now speed read just about everything they see? I do, and had to re-read your comment again just to to see the second 'to'.;)
No, it's because we have excellent signal processors attached to our eyes, and are able to correct simple errors like that before it gets out of our language centers and into the rest of our brain.
This is a good thing. Why would you care to catch on every error you see or hear?
DTrace & ZFS are features, not products. They are a part of the Solaris operating system. OTOH, the "Sun Java Enterprise System" runs on SOlaris or Linux.
I think their position is silly, but your examples don't make any sense.
Not mentioned in the article is that Sony and NVidia have entered into a strategic partnership with Hammacher Schlemmer
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You're taking aim at the wrong issue. Quartz might be better than X at certain things. But Quartz isn't what makes Mac OS X a great operating system, and it isn't what makes it well suited to the desktop.
Your problem is with Gnome, KDE, & the distros. Dunno what you think X has to do with the problem.
Your sig is gramatically incorrect. A comma between "country" and "self" might make it a little easier to understand, as well. I spent two minutes trying to figure out wtf you thought a "country self" was.
Belize is quite beautiful. It has the largest barrier reef in the western hemisphere. The most beautiful parts have hurricane risks, though.
Saying "they speak English in Belize" is oversimplification. Belize has three official languages: English, Spanish, and Garifuna. They are all widely spoken.
It would mean that a patent holding company would need to risk more than just money for the patent.
Heh. No such thing as "more than money" for a company. You are simply saying that they would have to risk _more money_. Whatever. Neither of us are patent lawyers. We have no idea what would actually clean up the system.
As I said originally, "The fucked jam here is that patents can be submarined for years until someone else develops your product profitably, and then you can sue them bowlegged."
The fact that NTP bought these patents, however, is fine. They are the market force that rewarded the original inventors. They did so because they were purchasing something of value. The distinction between NTP and the original creators is juvenile and idiotic and reeks of the "moral rights" content creators are granted in other nations. This is a *way* *more* draconian IP regime than the one we already have.
Whenever I run into this kind of logic, I can't help but think of a bunch of five year olds: "It was my idea to draw a pony, you can't draw a pony!"
Exactly. I'd like to get ccd-over-time with the shutter open. I realize that's probably not feasible with current hardware, let alone markettable, so it's kindof irrelevant to the open software question.
If only. It would also harm the creators, because they would have less to sell.
This is not an arguable point. Sure, I don't think that IP creators deserve all the monopoly rights we grant them, but there's no way to describe your proposal except as a reduction in the cash value of their work.
when digital cameras could be so much more than their film-based counterparts?
Seriously? I would rather digital cameras function like, and only like a camera. I'm already having hard time finding a standard mobile phone that makes calls, and that's all it does.
There are a billion interesting images I'd love to capture that would be way more feasible if I could read directly from the CCD. Time lapse animations & such. Dude never said he was trying to run a webserver. Maybe he just wants to use his camera in unanticipated ways.
That said, I don't think the pro-ams could do a better job at camera software than Canon or whoever. So unfortunately he's on a wild goose chase. But when he says "so much more than their film-based counterparts", I trust that he's still talking about producing images.
Patents should be owned by companies creating products, like they were originally intended.
What if the best way for those creators to get their $$ is to sell the patent? NTP pays inventors for their creations. It's like saying that publishers owning rights to books is bad, so authors shouldn't be able to sell their rights.
The fucked jam here is that patents can be submarined for years until someone else develops your product profitably, and then you can sue them bowlegged. It doesn't matter to RIM whether it's NTP doing the suing.
And, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft blue eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that the exceedingly rich were no longer even remotely human.
- Count Zero, William Gibson
This isn't about you. We aren't going to live forever. Bill Gates might. Karl Rove might.
Should Osama and crew learn all of the ways that we spy on them, they are liable to change their tactics and make it that much harder for us to try to foil them.
Maybe they rebel because they don't like feeling they're being treaten like foes ?
Ok, that's some horseshit. There are many, many good and bad reasons that some people are terrorists. None of them are that after they become terrorists, we are secretive about the way we spy on them. What the fuck were you talking about? Is this just a nonsequitor?
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Heck, why not just turn all 5+ year prison terms into life sentences?
Or amend our constitution so we can just torture and kill them without appeal. Why bugger around?
I wish that someone would do another VIC-20. For $200.00
AMD already did it. It's not that cool.
They also advertise that it is a RTOS, but I don't know what they mean by that in this case.
Dunno about this Coyotos thing, but a major point of EROS was its checkpointing system & memory architecture. In my completely uninformed understanding, the idea was that there was no filesystem, and the persistent disk was only used to provide virtual memory and checkpoint the memory state.
So if you turn off the computer, and turn it back on again, it loads the last checkpoint, and your processes are all running and in the same state. That's what they mean by "Extremely reliable". There are supposedly processes running in KeyKOS, a similar OS, that have been running since before the computer's current hardware had been built. If that makes sense.
Dunno if Multics did that.
But... "GNU's not Unix" was a JOKE. They called it "not Unix" because calling it Unix would have been illegal. Aside from the trademark issue, GNU is unix.
Generally, I think Radio Free XXX is going for a pirate radio, revolutionary feel.
More pirate than revolutionary. I know some guys that formed a jug band called "Jug Free America", and they are definitely more like pirates.
Anybody can read that. The point is that it takes slightly more time to read it.
IMH uninformed O, this is because on a low level we use push down automata to do this kind of language processing, and by reversing the letters rather than scrambling them we require more letters to be pushed before a solution is reached and they can all be popped.
Has it ever occured that due to information overload on the Internet that people now speed read just about everything they see? I do, and had to re-read your comment again just to to see the second 'to'. ;)
No, it's because we have excellent signal processors attached to our eyes, and are able to correct simple errors like that before it gets out of our language centers and into the rest of our brain.
This is a good thing. Why would you care to catch on every error you see or hear?
DTrace & ZFS are features, not products. They are a part of the Solaris operating system. OTOH, the "Sun Java Enterprise System" runs on SOlaris or Linux.
I think their position is silly, but your examples don't make any sense.
Not mentioned in the article is that Sony and NVidia have entered into a strategic partnership with Hammacher Schlemmer
You're taking aim at the wrong issue. Quartz might be better than X at certain things. But Quartz isn't what makes Mac OS X a great operating system, and it isn't what makes it well suited to the desktop.
Your problem is with Gnome, KDE, & the distros. Dunno what you think X has to do with the problem.
Your sig is gramatically incorrect. A comma between "country" and "self" might make it a little easier to understand, as well. I spent two minutes trying to figure out wtf you thought a "country self" was.
Belize is quite beautiful. It has the largest barrier reef in the western hemisphere. The most beautiful parts have hurricane risks, though.
Saying "they speak English in Belize" is oversimplification. Belize has three official languages: English, Spanish, and Garifuna. They are all widely spoken.
You must be using some definition of the word "interesting" with which I have never been acquainted.
It would mean that a patent holding company would need to risk more than just money for the patent.
Heh. No such thing as "more than money" for a company. You are simply saying that they would have to risk _more money_. Whatever. Neither of us are patent lawyers. We have no idea what would actually clean up the system.
As I said originally, "The fucked jam here is that patents can be submarined for years until someone else develops your product profitably, and then you can sue them bowlegged."
The fact that NTP bought these patents, however, is fine. They are the market force that rewarded the original inventors. They did so because they were purchasing something of value. The distinction between NTP and the original creators is juvenile and idiotic and reeks of the "moral rights" content creators are granted in other nations. This is a *way* *more* draconian IP regime than the one we already have.
Whenever I run into this kind of logic, I can't help but think of a bunch of five year olds: "It was my idea to draw a pony, you can't draw a pony!"
Can you read out high-res images without closing the shutter?
Exactly. I'd like to get ccd-over-time with the shutter open. I realize that's probably not feasible with current hardware, let alone markettable, so it's kindof irrelevant to the open software question.
If only. It would also harm the creators, because they would have less to sell.
This is not an arguable point. Sure, I don't think that IP creators deserve all the monopoly rights we grant them, but there's no way to describe your proposal except as a reduction in the cash value of their work.
That said, I don't think the pro-ams could do a better job at camera software than Canon or whoever. So unfortunately he's on a wild goose chase. But when he says "so much more than their film-based counterparts", I trust that he's still talking about producing images.
The fucked jam here is that patents can be submarined for years until someone else develops your product profitably, and then you can sue them bowlegged. It doesn't matter to RIM whether it's NTP doing the suing.
This isn't about you. We aren't going to live forever. Bill Gates might. Karl Rove might.
First, define "smart."
Characterized by sharp quick thought; bright. (Yes, I cribbed from the dictionary.)
Does "smart" mean you're in advanced placement or Honors classes?
Obviously not.
Is he stupider than the girl who didn't understand what the ozone layer was?
Obviously not. I'm just saying that intelligence wasn't what caused this fellow's unpopularity.