I hate to bicker, but yes, I see the similarities between Pixar's current choice and Hotmail's old choice.
Neither of those things have anything to do with System 8 in any way. I said "Hotmail was stupid for switching to NT." You said "System 8 would have been worse." That is obviously correct, but completely irrelevant. Their existing solution, Solaris (maybe FreeBSD, according to everyone here) was working very well.
Anyway, if you were trolling, I lost my shit. Good job. Screw you.
At this point in the game, I am honestly surprised that we haven't heard of violence resulting from spam affliction.
I'm surprised you haven't heard about it either. Some senile twit that got defrauded by a Nigerian "409" scam email figured that all Nigerians were in on the scam, or something, and killed a Nigerian diplomat.
Obviously, not what you were talking about: it was fraud more than spam, and the spammer didn't suffer, but... that's certainly violence resulting from spam affliction. (Also, note from this article: According to State Department figures (PDF), 25 murders or disappearances of Americans abroad have been directly linked to 419 fraud.)
Challenge / response systems are broken anyway, even if spammers can't break it.
Why? Because from: is forgeable, and viruses use other people's real addresses constantly. Every day, one of my 40 spam emails is a C/R email from someone that I've never heard of. Am I going to click the link and authorize my email address? Fuck no. But I'll never be able to send email to that person. I realize that's a *tiny* incidental, but it's still broken by design.
If your C/R system includes a solicitation to purchase said C/R system, you're a fucking spammer. Fuck you.
Whatever. None of that is in any way related to the existence of System 8, obviously unsuitable for any purpose at Hotmail. Your original comment was a complete nonsequitor.
You apparently were not using Hotmail back when they got purchased by Microsoft. When they first tried to switch the servers to Windows, they couldn't come close to handling the load.
It works perfectly now, but it was a disaster at the time.
Many asymmetric functions of the brain could be due to very general mutations:
"Left side, build neurons with branches closer to the nucleus."
"Right side, build neurons with branches further from the nucleus."
Neurons on the left side of your brain are more likely to be linked to nearby neurons than the right side. Neurons on the right side of your brain are more likely to have far away links.
Left brain semantic functions associate words like "warm" and "cold". Right brain language functions associate words like "warm" and "orange" (a warm color).
Er, maybe that's a bad example. I wish I still had access to my college's journal subscriptions.
Anyway. I'm sure there are genes that have given our brains specific asymmetrical capabilities, but my (limited!) understanding of the subject leads me to believe that that most asymmetrical capabilities of the brain are due to a very general difference in neuron branching.
And all this only really makes sense in the 90% of people that are left-brain "dominant". It very nicely explains why we're more dextrous with our right hands.
(Wait... I don't know how this relates to your comment anymore. I'm sorry:)
He mentioned the error in his second edition. In his follow-up-and-thank-you section. His response was kindof lame. IIRC, he said that he still thought his definition was funnier in the context of the novel, or more interesting, or better somehow. He sounded defensive or something. Its ok, dude, you were just wrong.
Boy, are you going to get a lot of responses to that question.
No, BIOS stands for "Basic Input/Output System." That's right, Neal Stephenson got it wrong in Snow Crash. BIOS is one of many ways for a computer to organize its input and output devices so that it can be accessed by a proper operating system. I'm sure there are plenty of geeks here who can tell you more about it than me.
Apple and Sun don't use IBM style PC BIOS. They use OpenFirmware. Iduno what the other kids use.
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You like the mini you don't neeed to post in reply to a guy talking up a Nitrus.
If that were all you were doing, I wouldn't have said a damn thing. If you like the Nitrus, why insist that the iPod is trash and its purchasers are morons?
The mini-iPod IS a rip-off of the nitrus, PERIOD. There isn't any arguing that point.
Dude, RIo and Apple both get their device platform from PortalPlayer. There isn't any arguing that point. I don't see how either can be a rip off of the other when they both paid for the concept and design of their internals.
"They want a product that is guaranteed to be easy to use, easy to purchase"
Underhandedly slamming other products by implying they DON'T do any of that.
I didn't mean to be underhanded. I meant that explicitly: Most people don't know for sure that the Rio is perfectly easy to use. They don't know that shopping at "computers4sure" is going to be a safe bet. They have no guarantee. One million people have paved the way for them with Apple. Their grandma already has one. No, this doesn't make the iPod a better product, but it's not a horrible thought process for a non-technical user.
Note that in this post AND in my first post I constantly use the word "I". Not like your posts which make broad claims about "They," as though you know exactly what everyone else thinks.
It was in fact your broad claims about iPod purchasers that originally raised my ire:
the herd of iPod "individuals" buying minis
I will never understand how people can be talked into spending enormous sums on an inferior product through a snazzy marketing campaign. The species is doomed.
We both refered to the herd of iPod "individuals" with very similar levels of specificity. I'm just trying to point out that we're not all jackasses and we have decent reasons for our preference. Just like you. Do you see why I took exception to your post?
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Also note that audio components in neither the iPod nor the Nitrus were designed by PortalPlayer.
Right, but PortalPlayer picked the components and decided how to put them together, which seems like it'd count for a lot.
Anyway. I'm glad to hear from someone who sounds like they know what they're talking about.
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They don't have identical audio quality. The SNR of the Nitrus is -4db higher than the mini iPod.
Weird. I believe you, but I'm sure you understand why I voiced my (apparently) uninformed opinion: Both devices have their audio components designed by portal player. My understanding was that they were practically identical in this regard.
Aesthetic appearance is a personal call.
Right, but it's still very important. It's wrong to denigrate iPod buyers for using it as a major part of their purchasing decision.
The iPod UI is, IMPO, overrated. Not only does it lack the ability...
You might not like its feature set, but... what about it's UI? (And your comment suggests you might not know about the iPod's on-the-go playlist feature.)
Argument already invalidated. The nitrus 1.5gb is $164 at computers4sure
Touche. But you have to buy it from some weird web company with a number in their name. You're still right.
Nothing. If I remember correctly your the dude who posted this flamebait. My initial post was just a comment on where all the Slashdot people are...
Um, what? Your post was self congratulatory horseshit.
the mini iPod is just a rip-off of the Rio Nitrus, and slashdotters are all hanging out on the Rio Karma and Nitrus boards laughing at the herd of iPod "individuals" buying minis with sub-par audio quality....
I will never understand how people can be talked into spending enormous sums on an inferior product through a snazzy marketing campaign. The species is doomed.
Why not accept that iPod purchasers have different desires than you? They don't want a product that appeals to your manly aesthetics. They want a product that is guaranteed to be easy to use, easy to purchase, and has already made a million people very happy. Leave them alone. Iduno, maybe you were joking, but you sounded like an asshole.
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1) They have identical "audio quality." 2) Those things look like crap. 3) Those things don't have the iPod UI. 4) They cost the same amount. 5) WTF is wrong with you people?
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You might have priced a solid state CF card. Those are much much more desireable than the MUVO2's minidrive based CF card. Those minidrive CF cards still cost around $400, afaik.
Hitachi is scalping people for the $400 because they're only competing with the $1130 solid state cards. It apparently didn't occur to them that they were underselling themselves via the MUVO2.
I still don't understand what crime he committed. He shut down his own website. He designed it, owned copyright, and hosted it. I don't see why he can't stop whenever the hell he wants.
Your body can't always fight off every infection. Every so often you need antibiotics. Maybe this is because there's no impervious solution to viruses in real life.
Sure, someday we may have something so sophisticated that it can automatically adapt to new viruses, but we may always need updates if we wish to successfully combat every computer virus infection every single time. There is a computer science theorem that proves that it is impossible to analyze any computer program for a Turing machine and determine its result in advance. The Halting Problem.
There are all kinds of methods we can use to get around this: DRM, sandboxing, etc., but if we want to be able to send someone a file and they want to be able to configure their computer to run a given file with superuser priviledges, we must let them. Some people desire this functionality. How do you propose we prevent them only in cases of malice?
Maybe there is no impervious solution to viruses in computers either.
People are beginning to write viruses for money. Witness the latest ICQ worm that monitors and relays all HTTPS and i-banking data back to HQ. It was modular and appeared to be written by a team of programmers.
Klez and Bagle also both seem like for-profit endeavors. Klez seemed to be a team perfecting their methods in such a way that they were sure the world's security wouldn't clamp down in response: They had a sunset written into the program. I guarantee you there are hundreds of thousands of people with Klez on their computer out there that never got cleaned up. For a long while, after every sunset they released a slightly improved product.
Once they got it right, they stopped. Maybe they're working on new methods, another virus, or they're looking for some spammer to pay them for 100,000 free mail relays before they release again.
But it's not just for posturing. It's organized crime. They're going to get paid.
It definitely requires SCO to put everything on the table. But it also requires IBM to put everything on the table. Basically, both parties are required to supply complete copies of everything they've ever done relating to Unix. That's a lot. A lot a lot. SCO is required to supply the license that they released everything to anyone ever. IBM is required to provide source control logs for everything they've ever done relating to Unix. IBM is required to provide current contact information for 1000 current and past employees.
This is so, so far from over. The case just got ten times bigger. Of course, this is exactly where IBM will shine. They are made of lawyers. They'll be all over this discovery like flies on shit. Boies 'n' Co's discovery seems tiny in comparison, though, so I think they'll be able to deal with it too.
Assuming that SCO has *anything* to show off, this case is going to be around for a while.
(P.S. I am not a lawyer. Take everything I say a grain of salt.)
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I hate to bicker, but yes, I see the similarities between Pixar's current choice and Hotmail's old choice.
Neither of those things have anything to do with System 8 in any way. I said "Hotmail was stupid for switching to NT." You said "System 8 would have been worse." That is obviously correct, but completely irrelevant. Their existing solution, Solaris (maybe FreeBSD, according to everyone here) was working very well.
Anyway, if you were trolling, I lost my shit. Good job. Screw you.
Obviously, not what you were talking about: it was fraud more than spam, and the spammer didn't suffer, but... that's certainly violence resulting from spam affliction. (Also, note from this article: According to State Department figures (PDF), 25 murders or disappearances of Americans abroad have been directly linked to 419 fraud.)
Challenge / response systems are broken anyway, even if spammers can't break it.
Why? Because from: is forgeable, and viruses use other people's real addresses constantly. Every day, one of my 40 spam emails is a C/R email from someone that I've never heard of. Am I going to click the link and authorize my email address? Fuck no. But I'll never be able to send email to that person. I realize that's a *tiny* incidental, but it's still broken by design.
If your C/R system includes a solicitation to purchase said C/R system, you're a fucking spammer. Fuck you.
Whatever. None of that is in any way related to the existence of System 8, obviously unsuitable for any purpose at Hotmail. Your original comment was a complete nonsequitor.
Do they notice because you put one chopstick in each hand?
I've been to a bar that used that fogged glass that turns clear with electric current in some public restrooms.
The bathroom stall door is clear, until you close it, when it becomes opaque.
A bar. A drinking establishment.
Drunk people have a hard enough time operating cigarette lighters.
So, you get to watch drunk idiots take a crap in the bathroom. Boy, does that suck.
Yeah. Gail Harris was fucking rad.
I can dis them for switching from their existing solution on Solaris, which was working fine.
I don't give a fuck what OS they were running. It's shamefull that they gave a fuck so much that they let it sacrifice their product for a week or so.
You apparently were not using Hotmail back when they got purchased by Microsoft. When they first tried to switch the servers to Windows, they couldn't come close to handling the load.
It works perfectly now, but it was a disaster at the time.
Many asymmetric functions of the brain could be due to very general mutations:
:)
"Left side, build neurons with branches closer to the nucleus."
"Right side, build neurons with branches further from the nucleus."
Neurons on the left side of your brain are more likely to be linked to nearby neurons than the right side. Neurons on the right side of your brain are more likely to have far away links.
Left brain semantic functions associate words like "warm" and "cold". Right brain language functions associate words like "warm" and "orange" (a warm color).
Er, maybe that's a bad example. I wish I still had access to my college's journal subscriptions.
Anyway. I'm sure there are genes that have given our brains specific asymmetrical capabilities, but my (limited!) understanding of the subject leads me to believe that that most asymmetrical capabilities of the brain are due to a very general difference in neuron branching.
And all this only really makes sense in the 90% of people that are left-brain "dominant". It very nicely explains why we're more dextrous with our right hands.
(Wait... I don't know how this relates to your comment anymore. I'm sorry
He mentioned the error in his second edition. In his follow-up-and-thank-you section. His response was kindof lame. IIRC, he said that he still thought his definition was funnier in the context of the novel, or more interesting, or better somehow. He sounded defensive or something. Its ok, dude, you were just wrong.
Boy, are you going to get a lot of responses to that question.
No, BIOS stands for "Basic Input/Output System." That's right, Neal Stephenson got it wrong in Snow Crash. BIOS is one of many ways for a computer to organize its input and output devices so that it can be accessed by a proper operating system. I'm sure there are plenty of geeks here who can tell you more about it than me.
Apple and Sun don't use IBM style PC BIOS. They use OpenFirmware. Iduno what the other kids use.
Ah, thank you.
the herd of iPod "individuals" buying minis
I will never understand how people can be talked into spending enormous sums on an inferior product through a snazzy marketing campaign. The species is doomed.
We both refered to the herd of iPod "individuals" with very similar levels of specificity. I'm just trying to point out that we're not all jackasses and we have decent reasons for our preference. Just like you. Do you see why I took exception to your post?
Also note that audio components in neither the iPod nor the Nitrus were designed by PortalPlayer.
Right, but PortalPlayer picked the components and decided how to put them together, which seems like it'd count for a lot.
Anyway. I'm glad to hear from someone who sounds like they know what they're talking about.
They don't have identical audio quality. The SNR of the Nitrus is -4db higher than the mini iPod.
...
Weird. I believe you, but I'm sure you understand why I voiced my (apparently) uninformed opinion: Both devices have their audio components designed by portal player. My understanding was that they were practically identical in this regard.
Aesthetic appearance is a personal call.
Right, but it's still very important. It's wrong to denigrate iPod buyers for using it as a major part of their purchasing decision.
The iPod UI is, IMPO, overrated. Not only does it lack the ability...
You might not like its feature set, but... what about it's UI? (And your comment suggests you might not know about the iPod's on-the-go playlist feature.)
Argument already invalidated. The nitrus 1.5gb is $164 at computers4sure
Touche. But you have to buy it from some weird web company with a number in their name. You're still right.
Nothing. If I remember correctly your the dude who posted this flamebait. My initial post was just a comment on where all the Slashdot people are...
Um, what? Your post was self congratulatory horseshit.
the mini iPod is just a rip-off of the Rio Nitrus, and slashdotters are all hanging out on the Rio Karma and Nitrus boards laughing at the herd of iPod "individuals" buying minis with sub-par audio quality.
I will never understand how people can be talked into spending enormous sums on an inferior product through a snazzy marketing campaign. The species is doomed.
Why not accept that iPod purchasers have different desires than you? They don't want a product that appeals to your manly aesthetics. They want a product that is guaranteed to be easy to use, easy to purchase, and has already made a million people very happy. Leave them alone. Iduno, maybe you were joking, but you sounded like an asshole.
Plus they have to interface via paper tape.
1) They have identical "audio quality."
2) Those things look like crap.
3) Those things don't have the iPod UI.
4) They cost the same amount.
5) WTF is wrong with you people?
You might have priced a solid state CF card. Those are much much more desireable than the MUVO2's minidrive based CF card. Those minidrive CF cards still cost around $400, afaik.
Hitachi is scalping people for the $400 because they're only competing with the $1130 solid state cards. It apparently didn't occur to them that they were underselling themselves via the MUVO2.
I still don't understand what crime he committed. He shut down his own website. He designed it, owned copyright, and hosted it. I don't see why he can't stop whenever the hell he wants.
Hehe. I'm a jackass.
Your body can't always fight off every infection. Every so often you need antibiotics. Maybe this is because there's no impervious solution to viruses in real life.
Sure, someday we may have something so sophisticated that it can automatically adapt to new viruses, but we may always need updates if we wish to successfully combat every computer virus infection every single time. There is a computer science theorem that proves that it is impossible to analyze any computer program for a Turing machine and determine its result in advance. The Halting Problem.
There are all kinds of methods we can use to get around this: DRM, sandboxing, etc., but if we want to be able to send someone a file and they want to be able to configure their computer to run a given file with superuser priviledges, we must let them. Some people desire this functionality. How do you propose we prevent them only in cases of malice?
Maybe there is no impervious solution to viruses in computers either.
You're just plain wrong.
People are beginning to write viruses for money. Witness the latest ICQ worm that monitors and relays all HTTPS and i-banking data back to HQ. It was modular and appeared to be written by a team of programmers.
Klez and Bagle also both seem like for-profit endeavors. Klez seemed to be a team perfecting their methods in such a way that they were sure the world's security wouldn't clamp down in response: They had a sunset written into the program. I guarantee you there are hundreds of thousands of people with Klez on their computer out there that never got cleaned up. For a long while, after every sunset they released a slightly improved product.
Once they got it right, they stopped. Maybe they're working on new methods, another virus, or they're looking for some spammer to pay them for 100,000 free mail relays before they release again.
But it's not just for posturing. It's organized crime. They're going to get paid.
My understanding from the PDF was that they had to supply all the code and all change history on all the code for over 200 products.
Those 200 products may be very closely related, but... doesn't that sound like a lot to you?
This is hardly a put up or shut up.
It definitely requires SCO to put everything on the table. But it also requires IBM to put everything on the table. Basically, both parties are required to supply complete copies of everything they've ever done relating to Unix. That's a lot. A lot a lot. SCO is required to supply the license that they released everything to anyone ever. IBM is required to provide source control logs for everything they've ever done relating to Unix. IBM is required to provide current contact information for 1000 current and past employees.
This is so, so far from over. The case just got ten times bigger. Of course, this is exactly where IBM will shine. They are made of lawyers. They'll be all over this discovery like flies on shit. Boies 'n' Co's discovery seems tiny in comparison, though, so I think they'll be able to deal with it too.
Assuming that SCO has *anything* to show off, this case is going to be around for a while.
(P.S. I am not a lawyer. Take everything I say a grain of salt.)
(P.P.S. I am drunk. Excuse hyperbole.)