Actually, Other areas get a greater share of conventions than NYC/LA. LV has N+I west, ComDex, but Atlanta has Supercomm, ComNet and DC has N+I east. Do not forget Santa Clara either.
My point is not that the midwest sucks. Hey, I live in Chicago, but that you need an interesting place for a show. DC, Atlanta, New Orleans, Orlanda, Chicago are infinately more interesting than KC. And all the above have a greater potential local draw too
Saw that quote, and had some questions. Under what system load?
Just my Proc and LCD take this much power.
What if I need to load a doc from the hdd? Work in Photoshop on the road? What if I wanna listen to a CD of my MP3s? Watch a movie?
I CAN make my laptop use this little power, but then what's the point?
My point is that we already can get down to 16W with current kit. But only by not using 3/4 your laptop, spinning down the hdd, not using the DVD, reducing the backlighting, etc.
When we have progresses to be able to use our FULL Laptop for 8-9 hours, I will be impressed, but a Crusoe is not the only missing peice in the puzzle needed to bring this about.
Right, but your HDD powers up frequently...every time is spins-down-re-spins-up. Also, the 12.1" screen is too small, and probably not active matrix. Mine (14") uses on the order of 10W with backlighting. My DVD is about where you list yours, but again, with spin-up/spin-down...
And the Proc uses 5W.
We are not looking at anything earth shattering. You will get about 4W better consumption than me (or about 10%) on an equal system.
Can not do that. I did not notice on in Powerbook (Pismo). Is this a Intel PC only concern? The only heatsink in here is on the Proc.
How much power could this draw, though, vis-a-vis the LCD or the DVD drive. Even when I spin down the HDD and do not use the DVD drive, I know the backlighting/LCD panel eats every spare watt in sight.
Emulation is getting better...slowly (no pun intended). Part of the problem is SoftWindows/Virtual PC are trying to add functionality (like ethernet/dhcp) into the Virtual machine at the same tiem they try to improve performance.
On my G3 300, I can emulate (about) a P2-166...with virtual memory turned off and gving it 128 MB of RAM.
Mostly because Curose wil only amke the gap between the laptop performance and desktop WORSE.
Personally, I think that this goes in the opposite direction. I love the 500 Mhz Apple Powerbooks. The gap between this and my desktop Mac is negligable at best.
Not me. Crusoe does not have THAT much better power management than a G3. G3 is also VERY low power. It does not radically extend the batterylife. Yes, the iBook battery life is good. No, it is not shocking.
This supposed GREAT laptop battery life you will get with the Crusoe, but I am not buying it. The processor is ONE component, among many. Even the P3 is not the biggest hog in a laptop.
Open Ports, the LCS, the DVD/CD and the HDD all burn MUCH more power. So BFD, even f the Crusoe gets by on 1/30 the power of a P3, it will not translate into more than an extra 1/2 hour. For chissakes, the G3 gets by on 5 anyway, but the Apple does not have significantly more battery life than a comprable P3.
I am rooting for it. But like with Apple and Linux and other techs, there is more hype than substance.
You must lead a very sad life. I have turned jobs down, that paid 2-3X what Imake presently, because my time is invaluable & my life can not be bought.
The idiot before me worked 60 hr weeks. Guess what. I work a strict 35 hr week. I sell 2x what he did.
I do not exist for my boss to "spurt jizz" Sad that you do.
Tom
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GET rid of the TEXT, and the AV. The PSTN was made to carry VOICE. The rest is destroying MY bandwith....
Dude, put down the US propaganda and read something, or visit the place. They have the highest literacy rate in the WORLD. They have ok healthcare. (not as good as US/EUR, but tolerable) and a press that suffers less control from their gvt than OURS does from our corps.
Slavery. WE are as enslaved here by the corps as they are from their gvt.
And, NO. It is not impossible to get in/out. Just go thru Mexico. Or any other country, since the US is the only dunbfuck cuntry still boycotting.
Yeah, but we have been playing the bandwith v. sw/file bloat for a long time.
I am on a cable modem right now. The download for Netscape 6.0 took just under 5 mins. Two years ago, I was on ISDN. The doenload of NS 4 took, you guessed it, about 5-8 mins. When I started using the net, I could grab files, and download avg howtos in, you guessed it, 5 mins.
By the time we all have Broadband Home Net connections on avg of 5 Mb/sec, the docs and apps we need will requite 5x that much to run like it would locally.
Besides, the bottleneck in no longer the net. Things like bus speed, internet gateway (at cable co headend/dsl headend) are the bottlenecks. These things take real time to change, and require massive spending.
Remember, many calbe modem CMTS (cable modem termination systems) commect to a T1 internet gateway. Sheesh. My cable modem alone had the same bandwith. Combine with up to 16 on a Cable local loop, and the other CMTS, all going through that skinny pipe.
Do not know if you will get this or not, sorry my resp is soooo late.
I do not know some of the issues in HOW this info gets out of your pc, and onto the net...but doesn't that info have to be on your PC for it to get out?
I never keep that info on my boxen. If/when I order foo online, I immediately go offline, trash all preferences (I am on a Mac) save my bookmarks, trash all history/cookies, etc and re login.
I agree, they have no right to mine for this data. It disgusts me. But my point stands...
I am not saying this is right....only that it is expected behavior in the new corpNet.
I do many things not the norm, but f#cking in public is not one of them. Guess my kinks run in a differnet direction. Reading Playboy in public should be allowed, just so you do not shove it in anyone else's face. Again, I wouldn't (out of common courtesy).
Lots of people pay with cash, and and the clerk a smart shopper card. Also, many people use credit cards. Yes, you can stay out of the digital shopping system. ut you end up in analog (tapes) anyway. NOT anonymous.
Home is private, your PC, private, your yard, private. Sidewalk, public, internet, public, roads, public.
Yes there is overlap and grey area between your PC and the net. Yes, the info on your PC gets transmitted (often against your desire) and without your knowledge. I am not saying it is right I was trying to state that you (for better or worse) have less privacy in the meat world that we (currently) have in the net. So, your orig point that because we have privacy in the meat world, therefore, we claim it in the net as a right is faulty.
We do not have privacy in the meatworld, therefore, we can expect to lose more and more privacy in the net.
And, I will let you know anything you want about me. I have nothing to hide. I read pron. I flirt with chix even though I am engaged. I drink. I did drugs. yada yada yada. who fucking cares.
First: I do not f#ck, sh*t, piss, eat online. Since none of these "poor privacy" services force you to, it does not amount to the equivalency of watching someone do these things in the meat world.
Second: If you shop in the meat world, you do not ahve ANY privacy. Between Credit cards, smart shopper cards and cameras, you have less privacy offline than online.
Third: Some things are Public activities. Others are Private activities. The Internet is a Public space. The rules governing the public sphere apply here. Rights to pirvacy only apply to the Private sphere (ie the home...if you own it).
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Actually, Other areas get a greater share of conventions than NYC/LA. LV has N+I west, ComDex, but Atlanta has Supercomm, ComNet and DC has N+I east. Do not forget Santa Clara either.
My point is not that the midwest sucks. Hey, I live in Chicago, but that you need an interesting place for a show. DC, Atlanta, New Orleans, Orlanda, Chicago are infinately more interesting than KC. And all the above have a greater potential local draw too
Tom
September 1986.
Challenger.
Just kind of went kerplooey.
Broken "O"-ring.
One 1 cent part fails. The whole thing flames.
Tom
Shoot, forgot.
When the bible recounts jesus' virgin birth, we translated virgin wrong. The hebrew word used meant "unmarried woman" not un-fscked woman".
Tom
Agree,
;)
And I love every minute ot it
Tom
I still bleed in 6 colors.
Saw that quote, and had some questions. Under what system load?
Just my Proc and LCD take this much power.
What if I need to load a doc from the hdd? Work in Photoshop on the road? What if I wanna listen to a CD of my MP3s? Watch a movie?
I CAN make my laptop use this little power, but then what's the point?
My point is that we already can get down to 16W with current kit. But only by not using 3/4 your laptop, spinning down the hdd, not using the DVD, reducing the backlighting, etc.
When we have progresses to be able to use our FULL Laptop for 8-9 hours, I will be impressed, but a Crusoe is not the only missing peice in the puzzle needed to bring this about.
Tom
Right, but your HDD powers up frequently...every time is spins-down-re-spins-up. Also, the 12.1" screen is too small, and probably not active matrix. Mine (14") uses on the order of 10W with backlighting. My DVD is about where you list yours, but again, with spin-up/spin-down...
And the Proc uses 5W.
We are not looking at anything earth shattering. You will get about 4W better consumption than me (or about 10%) on an equal system.
Tom
Yeah. I agree, but your friend will be sore indeed to find that this chip will not increase her/his uptime significantly.
Also, if you get an extra 1/2 hour, but have to work slower, wher is the savings?
Tom
Can not do that. I did not notice on in Powerbook (Pismo). Is this a Intel PC only concern? The only heatsink in here is on the Proc.
How much power could this draw, though, vis-a-vis the LCD or the DVD drive. Even when I spin down the HDD and do not use the DVD drive, I know the backlighting/LCD panel eats every spare watt in sight.
Tom
Tom
heehee.
got me there.
yes. it does get warm. but not that bad.
actually the slower older lombards were worse at lower clocks.
do not know why, tho.
tom
Emulation is getting better...slowly (no pun intended). Part of the problem is SoftWindows/Virtual PC are trying to add functionality (like ethernet/dhcp) into the Virtual machine at the same tiem they try to improve performance.
On my G3 300, I can emulate (about) a P2-166...with virtual memory turned off and gving it 128 MB of RAM.
Tom
Neeither do my iMac or Powerbook.
Tom
Mostly because Curose wil only amke the gap between the laptop performance and desktop WORSE.
Personally, I think that this goes in the opposite direction. I love the 500 Mhz Apple Powerbooks. The gap between this and my desktop Mac is negligable at best.
Tom
Not me. Crusoe does not have THAT much better power management than a G3. G3 is also VERY low power. It does not radically extend the batterylife. Yes, the iBook battery life is good. No, it is not shocking.
And the G3 outperforms it.
Tom
This supposed GREAT laptop battery life you will get with the Crusoe, but I am not buying it. The processor is ONE component, among many. Even the P3 is not the biggest hog in a laptop.
Open Ports, the LCS, the DVD/CD and the HDD all burn MUCH more power. So BFD, even f the Crusoe gets by on 1/30 the power of a P3, it will not translate into more than an extra 1/2 hour. For chissakes, the G3 gets by on 5 anyway, but the Apple does not have significantly more battery life than a comprable P3.
I am rooting for it. But like with Apple and Linux and other techs, there is more hype than substance.
Tom
You must lead a very sad life. I have turned jobs down, that paid 2-3X what Imake presently, because my time is invaluable & my life can not be bought.
The idiot before me worked 60 hr weeks. Guess what. I work a strict 35 hr week. I sell 2x what he did.
I do not exist for my boss to "spurt jizz" Sad that you do.
Tom
GET rid of the TEXT, and the AV. The PSTN was made to carry VOICE. The rest is destroying MY bandwith....
Shoot, this is not even worth it.
IHBT ? IHL?
Tom
you have been trolled you have lost have a nice day. hope this helps. tom
And HotMail (read: Microsoft) is not just "another capitalist institution feeding off of others for its sustinence"
OR
Have I just been Trolled?
Tom
Dude, put down the US propaganda and read something, or visit the place. They have the highest literacy rate in the WORLD. They have ok healthcare. (not as good as US/EUR, but tolerable) and a press that suffers less control from their gvt than OURS does from our corps.
Slavery. WE are as enslaved here by the corps as they are from their gvt.
And, NO. It is not impossible to get in/out. Just go thru Mexico. Or any other country, since the US is the only dunbfuck cuntry still boycotting.
Get yer nose out of UnKKKle sam's ass.
/rant
Yeah, but we have been playing the bandwith v. sw/file bloat for a long time.
I am on a cable modem right now. The download for Netscape 6.0 took just under 5 mins. Two years ago, I was on ISDN. The doenload of NS 4 took, you guessed it, about 5-8 mins. When I started using the net, I could grab files, and download avg howtos in, you guessed it, 5 mins.
By the time we all have Broadband Home Net connections on avg of 5 Mb/sec, the docs and apps we need will requite 5x that much to run like it would locally.
Besides, the bottleneck in no longer the net. Things like bus speed, internet gateway (at cable co headend/dsl headend) are the bottlenecks. These things take real time to change, and require massive spending.
Remember, many calbe modem CMTS (cable modem termination systems) commect to a T1 internet gateway. Sheesh. My cable modem alone had the same bandwith. Combine with up to 16 on a Cable local loop, and the other CMTS, all going through that skinny pipe.
Tom
Do not know if you will get this or not, sorry my resp is soooo late.
I do not know some of the issues in HOW this info gets out of your pc, and onto the net...but doesn't that info have to be on your PC for it to get out?
I never keep that info on my boxen. If/when I order foo online, I immediately go offline, trash all preferences (I am on a Mac) save my bookmarks, trash all history/cookies, etc and re login.
I agree, they have no right to mine for this data. It disgusts me. But my point stands...
I am not saying this is right....only that it is expected behavior in the new corpNet.
Tom
Hello, Jack/Jerry.
I do many things not the norm, but f#cking in public is not one of them. Guess my kinks run in a differnet direction. Reading Playboy in public should be allowed, just so you do not shove it in anyone else's face. Again, I wouldn't (out of common courtesy).
Lots of people pay with cash, and and the clerk a smart shopper card. Also, many people use credit cards. Yes, you can stay out of the digital shopping system. ut you end up in analog (tapes) anyway. NOT anonymous.
Home is private, your PC, private, your yard, private. Sidewalk, public, internet, public, roads, public.
Yes there is overlap and grey area between your PC and the net. Yes, the info on your PC gets transmitted (often against your desire) and without your knowledge. I am not saying it is right I was trying to state that you (for better or worse) have less privacy in the meat world that we (currently) have in the net. So, your orig point that because we have privacy in the meat world, therefore, we claim it in the net as a right is faulty.
We do not have privacy in the meatworld, therefore, we can expect to lose more and more privacy in the net.
And, I will let you know anything you want about me. I have nothing to hide. I read pron. I flirt with chix even though I am engaged. I drink. I did drugs. yada yada yada. who fucking cares.
Tom
Right. Nother bad analogy.
First: I do not f#ck, sh*t, piss, eat online. Since none of these "poor privacy" services force you to, it does not amount to the equivalency of watching someone do these things in the meat world.
Second: If you shop in the meat world, you do not ahve ANY privacy. Between Credit cards, smart shopper cards and cameras, you have less privacy offline than online.
Third: Some things are Public activities. Others are Private activities. The Internet is a Public space. The rules governing the public sphere apply here. Rights to pirvacy only apply to the Private sphere (ie the home...if you own it).
Watch out for where your analogies lead.
Tom
D'oh!
D flat is the correct answer. guess ido not win the ginsu knives?
tom
And do not forget, c sharp is the same note as b flat!
make of it what you will.
Tom