That's why you get insurance and build it into the price of the car. It's what happens when another appliance or tool takes a persons life (remember the quote from fight club about car manufacturer caused incidents "if number of incidents = x and average court settlement = y then if x * y 'price of recall' they don't do a recall). You have a valid point though, it will be the main hurdle; However, If we had everyone driving robot cars there would be a lot less deaths than there are now, i find it funny that, that is the reason progress will be slowed. As far as morality goes a simple rough calculation of sparing the most humans wouldn't be that hard.
Look at what you have to go through at the airport at the moment. Public satisfaction or efficiency isn't there goal, but we don't have many options. I have no idea how many false negatives would be required (i'm not writing the software, although i doubt it would mark everyone), but there is potentially a level where you catch all terrorists and whatnot while leaving a manageable amount of false positives (which we know for the government is usually quite high).
How well it could be gamed depends on how high you turn up the sensitivity. Which is dependent on how far you are willing to push passengers (false positives) which by the look of things at the moment is quite a long way.
Oh yeah of course, if you set it up, make sure all the devices and hardware are working, save a shortcut or two and point them in the direction of the software center (explain they can't just download stuff and double click), they will be fine (I've done it for a few people, kde mint is my weapon of choice), but are you willing to do that for all the noobs, for free. Windows generally haven't really been for the noobs either (that's why IT departments are so big) if you want it to work well you have to be willing to dive into settings and commands. To put the start menu back in windows 8 (fixing 98% of user problems) you just have to type %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs into the new toolbar dialog box (to fix the other 2% you just need to delete programs); if that is too hard for the a lot windows users, i don't like your chances talking them through why their wifi card isn't working.
Do you remember all the people freaking out when Microsoft gave them vista? If not just look at what is happening with windows 8, any fairly computer literate person would have it setup and running well for them in a hour or so, but the masses are terribly confused.
Things can be broken out of the box providing it's easy enough for the person to fix (and be the right price). I may have been a bit harsh on the masses, i appreciate an OS that works well easily as well, i just don't think linux will ever be like that (without great changes that would remove what linux holds dear). It's very powerful in the right hands, but usually the people that need/want that kind of power have the right hands any way.
Having everyone use linux would need big changes. If the masses can't figure out how to use an os themselves within about 10 seconds they start rioting, anything remotely confusing would have to be deeply hidden (so they don't accidentally open command prompt and freak out), and good luck getting them to customize anything that isn't the simplest of GUI. The Linux crowd aren't paid enough to put up with those people, let apple or maybe MS do it.
I didn't bother submitting it either. I've gone off submitting, because i find it a fair bit of work to put together a story (which gets picked to pieces by the/. crowd) and it's so hit and miss what gets through fire hose (even if it gets a lot of positive votes); I've felt pretty dishearten before waiting for it to never show up on the front page, so i wan't going to put myself through it for a good job MS story (but from the looks of it, it would of gone down fine. Feel free to post it your self).
www.reddit.com is just a compilation type linking site for a large number of topics (memes, funny, pics, today i learn, but most importantly technology and science). It's really just a collection of interesting links with a very brief title sentence or two, but due to the auto rankings and the wide selection of submitters (like CmdrTaco) it's a site of pure virtual gold.
Really what is the point in reading about Microsoft on slashdot. You only ever get the most negative side of the story and all there accomplishments never make it to the site. How many people know that Microsoft just demonstrated real time voice to voice translation using the original speakers own voice and the translated speech is in the correct order for the new language? (that is news for nerds as far as i'm concerned) But instead we have had six stories about how Microsoft is evil and forcing everyone to use a new version of windows that's completely broken and no one any where will ever be able to use it. Reddit is kicking your ass in journalism/.
Are they really beginners or have they used previous versions of windows? Because if you have already gone to the trouble of teaching them how classic windows is set out and how the file system works (which if you have done you would know is not trivial) then they aren't really beginners. This is for the people that have never owned a computer before, which i believe will get them doing the basics quickly (internet, email, photos, video, casual games) while TRYING to accommodate any more experienced users who gets stuck with it (and allowing them to help beginners on win8 with more admin type tasks).
But what's easier getting someone that can only drive an automatic to install their own transmission or someone that could drive either? I thought tuning windows was essential anyway. You raise an excellent point about rushing down to the showroom (i haven't upgraded and see little need in it) but i don't think we are the target market (desktops aren't even really win8's market) this os is about the beginner market, and also the mobile market leveraging it on the power and reach of real windows (whether it's a success or not it'll end up on at least 100 million computers); Windows 9 (or whatever they will call it) will be about getting the power and corporate users upgrading.
There is a start button that comes with windows 8 (proper one full of your programs) you just have to type %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs into the new toolbar dialog box. If all these people complaining about windows 8 spent half that time looking into it, they would find all there fears dismissed.
God damn relax dude. Business will use 7 until there is a good reason to upgrade (they aren't mindless apple consumers lining up to get the next incremental upgrade).
You make some excellent points sir. Intel MIGHT save us; If they bring out the 22 nm x86 soc with hd4000 graphics (and keep being a good sport with drivers) you could run kde plasma active (pretty good touch os) and have a monstrous amount of working programs. Wireless modem would still be an issue. Case could potentially be crowd sourced into something half sexy (although your never going to be able to compete on thinness and probably not materials). Although it will undoubtedly cost more to make each unit than the big guys, there is much less overhead on the business or need for extreme profits (iphone costs something like $200 to make, even if the open phone cost twice that there is still a fair bit of profit). So is a bit thicker plastic phone from some one with no reputation worth it, if it's an upgradeable, untracked, high speced, full of options and ports, completely open pocket computer and phone, that people could have a part in designing? i think, for a lot of people (and in no means a majority) yes.
i haven't upgraded to windows 8 (7 is doing me fine on the desktop, laptops running mint) but from the looks of it with a couple of hacks and an hour or so of setting up/organizing/learning it, it would be just as productive and useful as 7. I wouldn't be using the start screen much (maybe have it ticking over on one of my side monitors), defiantly put the start menu back, setup all my shortcuts on the desktop and taskbar, delete or seriously hide the shortcut of anything that doesn't open in the desktop, learn a few keyboard shortcuts, possibly incorporate a touch screen monitor lying down next to my keyboard for cool factor, and i'm set.
Also i'm not really a tablet guy, but half the reason i don't use my android one is because of all the things it can't do. I don't know if windows rt fixes it but pro should.
I understand all that, and that's what I'm against. I couldn't care less about a targeted ad for a remote control chopper. What i do care about is google knowing me better than i know myself. Yesterday there was a story about obama analytics's department using big data to find out how to change non obama voters into one and also get more campaign contributions than ever before (not very democratic when you know how to fool the majority). Your data is you, and with bigger and faster computers it can expose a lot of our weaknesses and manipulation possibilities.
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That's why you get insurance and build it into the price of the car. It's what happens when another appliance or tool takes a persons life (remember the quote from fight club about car manufacturer caused incidents "if number of incidents = x and average court settlement = y then if x * y 'price of recall' they don't do a recall). You have a valid point though, it will be the main hurdle; However, If we had everyone driving robot cars there would be a lot less deaths than there are now, i find it funny that, that is the reason progress will be slowed. As far as morality goes a simple rough calculation of sparing the most humans wouldn't be that hard.
Look at what you have to go through at the airport at the moment. Public satisfaction or efficiency isn't there goal, but we don't have many options. I have no idea how many false negatives would be required (i'm not writing the software, although i doubt it would mark everyone), but there is potentially a level where you catch all terrorists and whatnot while leaving a manageable amount of false positives (which we know for the government is usually quite high).
How well it could be gamed depends on how high you turn up the sensitivity. Which is dependent on how far you are willing to push passengers (false positives) which by the look of things at the moment is quite a long way.
Oh yeah of course, if you set it up, make sure all the devices and hardware are working, save a shortcut or two and point them in the direction of the software center (explain they can't just download stuff and double click), they will be fine (I've done it for a few people, kde mint is my weapon of choice), but are you willing to do that for all the noobs, for free. Windows generally haven't really been for the noobs either (that's why IT departments are so big) if you want it to work well you have to be willing to dive into settings and commands. To put the start menu back in windows 8 (fixing 98% of user problems) you just have to type %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs into the new toolbar dialog box (to fix the other 2% you just need to delete programs); if that is too hard for the a lot windows users, i don't like your chances talking them through why their wifi card isn't working.
Do you remember all the people freaking out when Microsoft gave them vista? If not just look at what is happening with windows 8, any fairly computer literate person would have it setup and running well for them in a hour or so, but the masses are terribly confused.
Things can be broken out of the box providing it's easy enough for the person to fix (and be the right price). I may have been a bit harsh on the masses, i appreciate an OS that works well easily as well, i just don't think linux will ever be like that (without great changes that would remove what linux holds dear). It's very powerful in the right hands, but usually the people that need/want that kind of power have the right hands any way.
Having everyone use linux would need big changes. If the masses can't figure out how to use an os themselves within about 10 seconds they start rioting, anything remotely confusing would have to be deeply hidden (so they don't accidentally open command prompt and freak out), and good luck getting them to customize anything that isn't the simplest of GUI. The Linux crowd aren't paid enough to put up with those people, let apple or maybe MS do it.
It uses the same os but from what i understood the baxter guy open sourced his physical self learning code to them.
Getting a robot to write it's own program has been done for a long time (10 years at least). This isn't even a new way of doing it, they are just using this guys code http://www.eejournal.com/archives/fresh-bytes/baxter-is-the-humanoid-robot-you-can-teach-without-programming/ .
I didn't bother submitting it either. I've gone off submitting, because i find it a fair bit of work to put together a story (which gets picked to pieces by the /. crowd) and it's so hit and miss what gets through fire hose (even if it gets a lot of positive votes); I've felt pretty dishearten before waiting for it to never show up on the front page, so i wan't going to put myself through it for a good job MS story (but from the looks of it, it would of gone down fine. Feel free to post it your self).
Sure i did. I admit i should of added it to my original comment, but i wasn't expecting this much attention.
I didn't know anybody outside of Microsoft had any access to it. It was just a demonstration a week ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Nu-nlQqFCKg .
I didn't know anybody outside of Microsoft had any access to it. It was just a demonstration a week ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Nu-nlQqFCKg .
www.reddit.com is just a compilation type linking site for a large number of topics (memes, funny, pics, today i learn, but most importantly technology and science). It's really just a collection of interesting links with a very brief title sentence or two, but due to the auto rankings and the wide selection of submitters (like CmdrTaco) it's a site of pure virtual gold.
Really what is the point in reading about Microsoft on slashdot. You only ever get the most negative side of the story and all there accomplishments never make it to the site. How many people know that Microsoft just demonstrated real time voice to voice translation using the original speakers own voice and the translated speech is in the correct order for the new language? (that is news for nerds as far as i'm concerned) But instead we have had six stories about how Microsoft is evil and forcing everyone to use a new version of windows that's completely broken and no one any where will ever be able to use it. Reddit is kicking your ass in journalism /.
Are they really beginners or have they used previous versions of windows? Because if you have already gone to the trouble of teaching them how classic windows is set out and how the file system works (which if you have done you would know is not trivial) then they aren't really beginners. This is for the people that have never owned a computer before, which i believe will get them doing the basics quickly (internet, email, photos, video, casual games) while TRYING to accommodate any more experienced users who gets stuck with it (and allowing them to help beginners on win8 with more admin type tasks).
But what's easier getting someone that can only drive an automatic to install their own transmission or someone that could drive either? I thought tuning windows was essential anyway. You raise an excellent point about rushing down to the showroom (i haven't upgraded and see little need in it) but i don't think we are the target market (desktops aren't even really win8's market) this os is about the beginner market, and also the mobile market leveraging it on the power and reach of real windows (whether it's a success or not it'll end up on at least 100 million computers); Windows 9 (or whatever they will call it) will be about getting the power and corporate users upgrading.
Now i have to wait another 1000 years.
There is a start button that comes with windows 8 (proper one full of your programs) you just have to type %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs into the new toolbar dialog box. If all these people complaining about windows 8 spent half that time looking into it, they would find all there fears dismissed.
Hahhahaha. I heard windows 8 runs on burning babies.
God damn relax dude. Business will use 7 until there is a good reason to upgrade (they aren't mindless apple consumers lining up to get the next incremental upgrade).
To be fair they will replace any faulty cover for free and it's not like it even stops working suddenly. Also why are we reading about a split keyboard when they just invented real time voice to voice language translation using the tones and voice of the original speaker. http://www.technologyreview.com/news/507181/microsoft-brings-star-treks-voice-translator-to-life/ .
You make some excellent points sir. Intel MIGHT save us; If they bring out the 22 nm x86 soc with hd4000 graphics (and keep being a good sport with drivers) you could run kde plasma active (pretty good touch os) and have a monstrous amount of working programs. Wireless modem would still be an issue. Case could potentially be crowd sourced into something half sexy (although your never going to be able to compete on thinness and probably not materials). Although it will undoubtedly cost more to make each unit than the big guys, there is much less overhead on the business or need for extreme profits (iphone costs something like $200 to make, even if the open phone cost twice that there is still a fair bit of profit). So is a bit thicker plastic phone from some one with no reputation worth it, if it's an upgradeable, untracked, high speced, full of options and ports, completely open pocket computer and phone, that people could have a part in designing? i think, for a lot of people (and in no means a majority) yes.
i haven't upgraded to windows 8 (7 is doing me fine on the desktop, laptops running mint) but from the looks of it with a couple of hacks and an hour or so of setting up/organizing/learning it, it would be just as productive and useful as 7. I wouldn't be using the start screen much (maybe have it ticking over on one of my side monitors), defiantly put the start menu back, setup all my shortcuts on the desktop and taskbar, delete or seriously hide the shortcut of anything that doesn't open in the desktop, learn a few keyboard shortcuts, possibly incorporate a touch screen monitor lying down next to my keyboard for cool factor, and i'm set.
Also i'm not really a tablet guy, but half the reason i don't use my android one is because of all the things it can't do. I don't know if windows rt fixes it but pro should.
I understand all that, and that's what I'm against. I couldn't care less about a targeted ad for a remote control chopper. What i do care about is google knowing me better than i know myself. Yesterday there was a story about obama analytics's department using big data to find out how to change non obama voters into one and also get more campaign contributions than ever before (not very democratic when you know how to fool the majority). Your data is you, and with bigger and faster computers it can expose a lot of our weaknesses and manipulation possibilities.
So you don't mind if i keep a file on all your likes, dislikes and habits as long as i don't show you the depth?