It might get introduced but it would have to be by choice. For example i could see a lot of single people considering a discount on their cable subscription if only 1 or two people were watching (and if more were watching it the cost would double or something); Or some big pay per view fight could have a special for single audience homes (for people without friends). That said you can count me out, having a camera watch me and my friends at home is just creepy, i don't care what the advantage is. All the processing of data would have to be done on the home computer (xbox) and media companies could only ever know the number of watchers, or it has zero chance of success.
Because then Google wont know how you spend every penny. Don't you ever think about other people like the advertising giants, they have feeling and goals as well.
Exactly, hackers don't have much respect for authority and rules (otherwise they wouldn't be hacking) yet you have a selection process that makes it compulsory. It's like saying i need a car that can drive practically any where, fit 8 men inside, and still be fast, but it's not allowed to be 4wd, bigger than a mini, or use much fuel.
I know what the osborne effect is, and your very right that has happened (as soon as windows 8 was in development and said to have an arm version i knew what they were up to, and told many people to avoid windows phone until 8). Android has another set of issues and although i know it's very popular at the moment, i think some could be looking for an alternative. I for one am a little creeped out when i see my google search from a week ago plastered over some website as ads. Then if you want to admit it, or not, it has a lot of bugs (i'm running jelly bean and it has a bunch of cool features, but some of my widgets keep deleting themselves, and my music takes its self of shuffle). There is also the enterprise market begging for a mix of androids power, ios stability and windows connectivity (and maybe some privacy). Also running android instead of windows (they can't run every platform it costs money they don't have) would of meant nokia was just another droid, with windows they are kind of leading the pack (albeit a pretty pathetic pack at the moment). I admit windows is a gamble, and they quite well could of made a decent living on android, there were also probably better ways to handle a transition, but this could still pay off for them.
I see you point, but supporting two platforms could of had downsides. Nokia has gone through a lot of re-structuring lately (maybe unpopular now but could easily pay off in the long run) and that would of been limited if producing twice the number of phone models on more OSs. Also as much as Microsoft is now helping other manufactures, nokia's longer term commitment has allowed them to have custom code (pureview, city lens, ect) to distinguish themselves from the stock standard wp8. One more potential point, even though wp7 wasn't that great for them, it could work as advertising for the future nokia windows phones (the lumias were solid phones a lot of people liked, featured in a bunch of ads, tv shows and movies so people will associate nokia as the wp leader).
Judging the future of nokia on windows phone 7 is just plain stupid (unless you don't think they will make it to the windows 8 launch). Maybe you guys are right and nokia will crash and burn, but we aren't going to know for at least another month or two. A billion dollars a year might not have been enough to offset windows phone 7 harm this year but is at least an acknowledgement of being a stop gap.
And really what is the alternative? They could have kept pouring money into their own operating systems, but i don't think they have the software talent (or money to buy them) to keep up with the increasingly complex and sophisticated OSs that come from google and apple. Maybe they would of been able to keep up for a couple of years but sooner or latter they would run out of fans. Blackberry is sitting tight Lets see how your strategy works out for them.
Sony isn't making that much money, and rightly so, i wouldn't touch the xerpia line with a ten foot pole. They are the most locked down non upgraded android there is (and upgrades and openness is the main advantage of android).
What? I chose windows. I used windows at home a long time before i used it at work, I can easily setup a hackintosh but i can't stand the OS (i prefer linux over osx), win7 does EVERYTHING i want it to (bar maybe some high end network exploits), and with all the pirated versions out there you don't even have to pay.
Yes it's true a lot of consumers get a windows upgrade for free, but is that such a bad system. This way they get everybody to know how to use windows (even those that can't afford it) and to still charge a big price to business and some consumers (who almost need to use windows because that's what everybody knows). That said it looks like they are changing their strategy with win8.
The article fails to see windows phone 7 as a stop gap solution while Microsoft figured out how to shoe horn real windows inside a phone (why do you think nokia was paid a billion dollars to use it). Microsoft only chose htc because it's more vanilla (they didn't want everyone thinking all windows phones had wireless charging, pureview cameras, city lens and touch screens that work with gloves). Yes the htc is cheaper but that's due to them using much cheaper components (it's not like one of a kind floating lens solutions come cheap). HTC is going to be the entry level win8 phone, and maybe you buy a phone on price alone, but i look at what i'm going to get (and 16 gb with no sd slot and no special features isn't going to get me to buy one). Whatever rear view mirror data (which is very vague on actual values) the guy that wrote the article has, he is a moron to release it a month BEFORE windows 8.
As from the article they don't show any figures. Half the graphs are only useful for comparing against the one thing he wanted it compared to. If nokia wasn't failing since 2008 how can you explain the drastic drop in stock price at that time (from $40 to $9 in 6 months)?
I don't know how invaluable it is, you can't do shares or be an arm chair ceo by trying to drive looking out of the rear view mirror. Past experience is the only solid numbers we have but it's less than half the story. I think this guy is a moron for writing the article now and not in a month when he could have some windows 8 numbers. Everybody with half a brain knew windows phone 7 was a stop gap solution as soon as windows 8 was said to have an arm version, that's why nokia was paid a billion dollars to support it.
Nokia announced their phones about a fortnight before htc, and yes htc cost less but that's because it's made of much cheaper components. Also Microsoft is using htc because they have a more vanilla version of win8, if they used nokia people might expect wireless charging, city lens, pureview and all the other extras nokia gives on every windows phones.
Windows phone is defiantly more advanced than ios and windows phone 8 is potentially better than android (more libraries and compatibility, even if you can't cover your desktop image with dodgy apps).
Lumia 920 is an awesome phone. What are you talking about it cannot even run windows 8 (youtube lumia 920 and you'll see it work), that is the os it's being sold with? (it's running the dual core s4 at 1.5ghz which uses semi a15 architecture like apple a6). If your too biased (or stupid) to realize it beats the competition is almost every area then it's your own loss.
Is it that hard to understand that not everyone is happy with either ios's simplicity or androids bugs and tracking. Note, i currently use android nexus s running jellybean, but i'm defiantly tempted by the lumia 920, and some internet troll won't change that.
What the article doesn't talk about is windows phone 7 being a stopgap and Nokia's own OS reaching a complexity peak, sure Nokia could get a smartphone OS to IOS quality or even better (but come on how hard is that) but can you really see them competing with all the wonders going to come out of Google, Microsoft who is all software (with a few exceptions), or apple with all that cash and those fans in the long run. I think Nokia is better off focusing on smaller software problems like maps and cameras and doing that excellently. Also the graphs print a pretty picture but what they show is clouded by fan base reaction in the short term, cost cutting, and NO numbers. Also he doesn't show the popularity of windows phone 8 and Nokia, the lumia 920 topped a few polls as the phone people are most likely to buy, up against iphone 5, galaxy s3, and htc 1x+ (quite surprising results to me). Which begs the question why he would even write the article now and not in one months time when he can add windows phone 8 sales to the equation? Unless of course he set out to make a point and didn't want anything getting in the way.
Hell yeah dude, that 920 looks like a damn nice machine. Frankly i don't see how they could of get the win phone 7 machines to upgrade to 8, because you would of had to put roughly the same hardware that the phones just coming out now have, which would of greatly increased the price of units, which is windows phone 7's only real advantage (i don't mind the interface but it is missing a lot of key functions). On another note why is the clown writing the original article now and not in a month when he could have some numbers on win 8 success.
But you guys defiantly want to patent it. Good thing for you is you don't need to research it or fund it, just write a brief paragraph about your dream then sue whoever does the hard work.
China has a lot of engineers and it's only growing. 8 out of 9 Chinese politicians were engineers (which is probably why when tasked with problem does one guy need his own jumbo jet, even though he only flies a few times a year. They answered no). When i was in china a few years ago on holiday, the tour i was on went to a kids school and i asked the teacher "what do Chinese parents want their kids to grow up to be, maybe doctor, maybe movie star", she gave me a weird look and said "no an engineer". China is just getting into engineering and it's going in hard. Similar to how the Japanese went from making crap (like the bad copies of German cameras in the 1960's) to now making state of the art, the Chinese are just getting started but check them out in 20 years. Which is in great contrast to the USA who can't make enough engineers and desperately imports them from all over the world.
I've only bought one smart phone (it's a nexus s) i was just mentioning it because they have obviously noticed the problem and have fixed it with new devices.
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The same number of positive accomplishments as Steve jobs then.
Interestingly i heard it's the other way around, apparently the iron man movie writers got the inspiration of stark from Elon.
It might get introduced but it would have to be by choice. For example i could see a lot of single people considering a discount on their cable subscription if only 1 or two people were watching (and if more were watching it the cost would double or something); Or some big pay per view fight could have a special for single audience homes (for people without friends). That said you can count me out, having a camera watch me and my friends at home is just creepy, i don't care what the advantage is. All the processing of data would have to be done on the home computer (xbox) and media companies could only ever know the number of watchers, or it has zero chance of success.
Because then Google wont know how you spend every penny. Don't you ever think about other people like the advertising giants, they have feeling and goals as well.
Exactly, hackers don't have much respect for authority and rules (otherwise they wouldn't be hacking) yet you have a selection process that makes it compulsory. It's like saying i need a car that can drive practically any where, fit 8 men inside, and still be fast, but it's not allowed to be 4wd, bigger than a mini, or use much fuel.
I know what the osborne effect is, and your very right that has happened (as soon as windows 8 was in development and said to have an arm version i knew what they were up to, and told many people to avoid windows phone until 8). Android has another set of issues and although i know it's very popular at the moment, i think some could be looking for an alternative. I for one am a little creeped out when i see my google search from a week ago plastered over some website as ads. Then if you want to admit it, or not, it has a lot of bugs (i'm running jelly bean and it has a bunch of cool features, but some of my widgets keep deleting themselves, and my music takes its self of shuffle). There is also the enterprise market begging for a mix of androids power, ios stability and windows connectivity (and maybe some privacy). Also running android instead of windows (they can't run every platform it costs money they don't have) would of meant nokia was just another droid, with windows they are kind of leading the pack (albeit a pretty pathetic pack at the moment). I admit windows is a gamble, and they quite well could of made a decent living on android, there were also probably better ways to handle a transition, but this could still pay off for them.
I see you point, but supporting two platforms could of had downsides. Nokia has gone through a lot of re-structuring lately (maybe unpopular now but could easily pay off in the long run) and that would of been limited if producing twice the number of phone models on more OSs. Also as much as Microsoft is now helping other manufactures, nokia's longer term commitment has allowed them to have custom code (pureview, city lens, ect) to distinguish themselves from the stock standard wp8. One more potential point, even though wp7 wasn't that great for them, it could work as advertising for the future nokia windows phones (the lumias were solid phones a lot of people liked, featured in a bunch of ads, tv shows and movies so people will associate nokia as the wp leader).
Judging the future of nokia on windows phone 7 is just plain stupid (unless you don't think they will make it to the windows 8 launch). Maybe you guys are right and nokia will crash and burn, but we aren't going to know for at least another month or two. A billion dollars a year might not have been enough to offset windows phone 7 harm this year but is at least an acknowledgement of being a stop gap.
And really what is the alternative? They could have kept pouring money into their own operating systems, but i don't think they have the software talent (or money to buy them) to keep up with the increasingly complex and sophisticated OSs that come from google and apple. Maybe they would of been able to keep up for a couple of years but sooner or latter they would run out of fans. Blackberry is sitting tight Lets see how your strategy works out for them.
Sony isn't making that much money, and rightly so, i wouldn't touch the xerpia line with a ten foot pole. They are the most locked down non upgraded android there is (and upgrades and openness is the main advantage of android).
Interestingly newspapers are generally written for a 12 year olds reading comprehension.
Wait this train won't carry a 1000 passengers it just launches a VW beetle size projectile at mach 5 into the air.
I don't think the illusion works if people have any kind of idea what drivel (if anything) they are writing.
What? I chose windows. I used windows at home a long time before i used it at work, I can easily setup a hackintosh but i can't stand the OS (i prefer linux over osx), win7 does EVERYTHING i want it to (bar maybe some high end network exploits), and with all the pirated versions out there you don't even have to pay.
Yes it's true a lot of consumers get a windows upgrade for free, but is that such a bad system. This way they get everybody to know how to use windows (even those that can't afford it) and to still charge a big price to business and some consumers (who almost need to use windows because that's what everybody knows). That said it looks like they are changing their strategy with win8.
Sounds like it would use a fair bit of power if it has to do calculations the whole time.
The article fails to see windows phone 7 as a stop gap solution while Microsoft figured out how to shoe horn real windows inside a phone (why do you think nokia was paid a billion dollars to use it). Microsoft only chose htc because it's more vanilla (they didn't want everyone thinking all windows phones had wireless charging, pureview cameras, city lens and touch screens that work with gloves). Yes the htc is cheaper but that's due to them using much cheaper components (it's not like one of a kind floating lens solutions come cheap). HTC is going to be the entry level win8 phone, and maybe you buy a phone on price alone, but i look at what i'm going to get (and 16 gb with no sd slot and no special features isn't going to get me to buy one). Whatever rear view mirror data (which is very vague on actual values) the guy that wrote the article has, he is a moron to release it a month BEFORE windows 8.
As from the article they don't show any figures. Half the graphs are only useful for comparing against the one thing he wanted it compared to. If nokia wasn't failing since 2008 how can you explain the drastic drop in stock price at that time (from $40 to $9 in 6 months)?
I don't know how invaluable it is, you can't do shares or be an arm chair ceo by trying to drive looking out of the rear view mirror. Past experience is the only solid numbers we have but it's less than half the story. I think this guy is a moron for writing the article now and not in a month when he could have some windows 8 numbers. Everybody with half a brain knew windows phone 7 was a stop gap solution as soon as windows 8 was said to have an arm version, that's why nokia was paid a billion dollars to support it.
Meego is a poor copy of ios with no developers.
Nokia announced their phones about a fortnight before htc, and yes htc cost less but that's because it's made of much cheaper components. Also Microsoft is using htc because they have a more vanilla version of win8, if they used nokia people might expect wireless charging, city lens, pureview and all the other extras nokia gives on every windows phones.
Windows phone is defiantly more advanced than ios and windows phone 8 is potentially better than android (more libraries and compatibility, even if you can't cover your desktop image with dodgy apps).
Lumia 920 is an awesome phone. What are you talking about it cannot even run windows 8 (youtube lumia 920 and you'll see it work), that is the os it's being sold with? (it's running the dual core s4 at 1.5ghz which uses semi a15 architecture like apple a6). If your too biased (or stupid) to realize it beats the competition is almost every area then it's your own loss.
Is it that hard to understand that not everyone is happy with either ios's simplicity or androids bugs and tracking. Note, i currently use android nexus s running jellybean, but i'm defiantly tempted by the lumia 920, and some internet troll won't change that.
What the article doesn't talk about is windows phone 7 being a stopgap and Nokia's own OS reaching a complexity peak, sure Nokia could get a smartphone OS to IOS quality or even better (but come on how hard is that) but can you really see them competing with all the wonders going to come out of Google, Microsoft who is all software (with a few exceptions), or apple with all that cash and those fans in the long run. I think Nokia is better off focusing on smaller software problems like maps and cameras and doing that excellently. Also the graphs print a pretty picture but what they show is clouded by fan base reaction in the short term, cost cutting, and NO numbers. Also he doesn't show the popularity of windows phone 8 and Nokia, the lumia 920 topped a few polls as the phone people are most likely to buy, up against iphone 5, galaxy s3, and htc 1x+ (quite surprising results to me). Which begs the question why he would even write the article now and not in one months time when he can add windows phone 8 sales to the equation? Unless of course he set out to make a point and didn't want anything getting in the way.
Hell yeah dude, that 920 looks like a damn nice machine. Frankly i don't see how they could of get the win phone 7 machines to upgrade to 8, because you would of had to put roughly the same hardware that the phones just coming out now have, which would of greatly increased the price of units, which is windows phone 7's only real advantage (i don't mind the interface but it is missing a lot of key functions). On another note why is the clown writing the original article now and not in a month when he could have some numbers on win 8 success.
But you guys defiantly want to patent it. Good thing for you is you don't need to research it or fund it, just write a brief paragraph about your dream then sue whoever does the hard work.
China has a lot of engineers and it's only growing. 8 out of 9 Chinese politicians were engineers (which is probably why when tasked with problem does one guy need his own jumbo jet, even though he only flies a few times a year. They answered no). When i was in china a few years ago on holiday, the tour i was on went to a kids school and i asked the teacher "what do Chinese parents want their kids to grow up to be, maybe doctor, maybe movie star", she gave me a weird look and said "no an engineer". China is just getting into engineering and it's going in hard. Similar to how the Japanese went from making crap (like the bad copies of German cameras in the 1960's) to now making state of the art, the Chinese are just getting started but check them out in 20 years. Which is in great contrast to the USA who can't make enough engineers and desperately imports them from all over the world.
I've only bought one smart phone (it's a nexus s) i was just mentioning it because they have obviously noticed the problem and have fixed it with new devices.
Interesting you say that because the new nokia phones have AGPS, Glonass (russian gps), and WLAN Network Positioning.