This is exactly why confidential information such as this should be kept on a laptop computer. The chance of our government losing a laptop computer is almost non-existent!
One of the biggest differences I see is in the hardware. I am a sucker for quality hardware. I remember the first time I went to move a C3000, I thought it would weigh a little more than an intel box, but I was wrong. That mother weighed probably 3 or 4 times more. I opened the box up and I could see how much quality was put into the design.
I like working with the workstations too. Especially now that HPUX runs Ximian Gnome.
Oh, ok. I see your point now. I agree that within a two year time frame that would be a bad decision. Looks like we are both on the same page. I mistook you for one of the Linux-can-do-everything-better-than-anything people.
I completely agree that linux is very good for certain things, but it will be a little while before it will be capable of completely replacing HP or Sun workstations (for some uses).
I am sixk of this "linux can do everything in the world attitude.
Linux can do many things well, but it can not replace some of the many features in a commercial Unix quite yet. I know it will soon, but not quite yet.
You obviously don't have a lot of experience in the real world. For some applications, especially a year or two ago, having a $3k linux box just didn't work. Linux didn't run the specialty software and wasn't robust enough a couple of years ago. For instance, many hardware design programs run on HPUX that do not run on Linux (not yet).
People that think linux can do everything a commercial unix can do are just wrong. Yes, I use and like linux, but I also respect its limitations. It is gradually getting to where it can replace most Unix boxes, but some times you need a commercial unux - whether your apps require it or you need a certain capability built in and supported.
I have worked on many C3xxx HP-UX boxes as well as linux boxes, and the C3600's are nice workstations. I don't think it warrants charging $18k more than a similar intel box, but it does. The PA-RISC architecture probably costs quite a bit more to produce because of the low volume, the itanium may change that quite a bit.
My point is, sometimes you need a real unix box. This is changing, but when you need enterprise support, applications, and features, you need them and that's all there is to it.
Just as an example to your statement, Costco sales some nice diamond jewlery, and they gaurantee it will appraise at at least double what you paid or you get your money back plus some.
I agree with you. Disk druid may be easier to use, but I used fdisk a lot and have learned to love it. it's quick and easy after you have spent years using it!
That was quite possibly the supidest thing I have ever seen someone do on slashdot. You are like the kid in class that always wants everyone's attention and for everyone to tell them they did a good job.
Yes, I am aware of that. However, even HP the company abreviates it "HP" or "hp", so I would think the press would do the same. Either way, I don't really care.
Why would you need anything more than a console? After the machine is booted up beyond the BIOS/etc, you can use the features of X or VNC to do whatever you want with a GUI. There is no need for it.
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Holy shit. I had no idea they were THAT bad. Great quotes, though. They made me laugh.
That is true... but he is an editor. It would not be against the law to edit.
This is exactly why confidential information such as this should be kept on a laptop computer. The chance of our government losing a laptop computer is almost non-existent!
I am correcting you. HP-UX did not have the vulnerability. Instead, Tru64 Unix did. Tru64 came from Compaq, which came from Digital.
And all CS really is is just a subset of math. I should know, I am staring at the requirements of my CS degree. Only 8 more math classes to go!
One of the biggest differences I see is in the hardware. I am a sucker for quality hardware. I remember the first time I went to move a C3000, I thought it would weigh a little more than an intel box, but I was wrong. That mother weighed probably 3 or 4 times more. I opened the box up and I could see how much quality was put into the design.
I like working with the workstations too. Especially now that HPUX runs Ximian Gnome.
Oh, ok. I see your point now. I agree that within a two year time frame that would be a bad decision. Looks like we are both on the same page. I mistook you for one of the Linux-can-do-everything-better-than-anything people.
I completely agree that linux is very good for certain things, but it will be a little while before it will be capable of completely replacing HP or Sun workstations (for some uses).
Did they really need the 37" flatscreen LCD?
A kick-ass PC: $3000
Dev. Kit w/everything you need from MS: $2500
21" Monitor: $800
Nice laser printer: $1000
Nice optical trackball: $80
This doesn't even add up to $10000 and I am being pretty generous.
I am sixk of this "linux can do everything in the world attitude.
Linux can do many things well, but it can not replace some of the many features in a commercial Unix quite yet. I know it will soon, but not quite yet.
You obviously don't have a lot of experience in the real world. For some applications, especially a year or two ago, having a $3k linux box just didn't work. Linux didn't run the specialty software and wasn't robust enough a couple of years ago. For instance, many hardware design programs run on HPUX that do not run on Linux (not yet).
People that think linux can do everything a commercial unix can do are just wrong. Yes, I use and like linux, but I also respect its limitations. It is gradually getting to where it can replace most Unix boxes, but some times you need a commercial unux - whether your apps require it or you need a certain capability built in and supported.
I have worked on many C3xxx HP-UX boxes as well as linux boxes, and the C3600's are nice workstations. I don't think it warrants charging $18k more than a similar intel box, but it does. The PA-RISC architecture probably costs quite a bit more to produce because of the low volume, the itanium may change that quite a bit.
My point is, sometimes you need a real unix box. This is changing, but when you need enterprise support, applications, and features, you need them and that's all there is to it.
Just as an example to your statement, Costco sales some nice diamond jewlery, and they gaurantee it will appraise at at least double what you paid or you get your money back plus some.
it's almost worse than drugs.
also USB and firewire.
Your point is valid - it really doesn't matter what they use, it was just not in good taste, IMHO.
/. geeks.
I mean, honestly, is it so hard to find a linux web host?
slashdotters are probably the only people who look at such a thing, but they could have at least hosted in on linux to satisfy all the
I agree with you. Disk druid may be easier to use, but I used fdisk a lot and have learned to love it. it's quick and easy after you have spent years using it!
That may be true, but Win2000 and Linux are more similar. Win2000 currently has much more 'server' market share than XP does.
you still have a point, I was just pointing this out.
wow. that one flew *way* above your head.
Isn't this arguement not even relevant? I heard on slashdot that BSD had died.
According to this interesting link
the film speed is 48 frames per second.
That was quite possibly the supidest thing I have ever seen someone do on slashdot. You are like the kid in class that always wants everyone's attention and for everyone to tell them they did a good job.
well, you are a dork. wow.
Does your mouth hurt? You just got trolled.
Yes, I am aware of that. However, even HP the company abreviates it "HP" or "hp", so I would think the press would do the same. Either way, I don't really care.
HP is always written as "H-P" in the press. I am not sure why, but it is.
was it an elephant? I thought it was a horse. Either way, you are right that is just plain wrong and sadistic.
so you were applying kernel patches on a nude beach?
:)
I think it is you who is mistaken...
Why would you need anything more than a console? After the machine is booted up beyond the BIOS/etc, you can use the features of X or VNC to do whatever you want with a GUI. There is no need for it.
I just got home and looked. It is "Fire Station 5 Brewing Company". A damn good beer, not a issy IPA like a lot of them are.