No, the story is right. This has been widely reported for months. Microsoft is creating an Apple-like closed eco-system for the Zune. You have to buy music from the Zune Marketplace. PlaysForSure songs will not play on Zune.
Here's what he says in answer to a question about this:
"I made a song. I own it. How come, when I wirelessly send it to a girl I want to impress, the song has 3 days/3 plays?" Good question. There currently isn't a way to sniff out what you are sending, so we wrap it all up in DRM. We can't tell if you are sending a song from a known band or your own home recording so we default to the safety of encoding. And besides, she'll come see you three days later. . "
Just like it was the users responsibility to know that sharing files via P2P networks was wrong?? And where did that argument get Napster, Kazaa, eDonkey, etc.??
Yesterday was Zune Day - it's sort of like Earth Day, but without the trees. At any rate, this feature was unveiled to a bunch of music and gadget bloggers, and the zune insider from Microsoft (zuneinsider.com) also discussed it as well.
Perfect analogy. And one that can easily be extended to the entertainment business.
Move studios don't expect a cut of DVD players (except for Sony, but that's another story).
And why is it that Record Companies never expected a cut of CD Player sales? Or transistor radios? Or a cut of the revenues from radio commercials -- after all, people listen to the radio to hear music. Damn those radio stations, they're making a profit from playing music!
The music industry has always been completely irrational about digital music and these latest comments prove it.
Seriously, if we wanted all of the smart tags and proprietary mark-up that Word generates that be an option that we would choose to include in our exported Word->HTML files? In the year 2005 "Export to HTML" should do just that. Export to clean HTML. How hard can that be? It's got to be easier than exporting all of the other junk that Word currently generates.
If you think about this problem for more than two minutes it's pretty clear that Microsoft has made a the decision not t export to clean HTML.
I'm guessing they've worked out a special deal with the labels/publishing companies and they're paying a dramtically reduced royalty for music rental. Probably something closer to what radio stations pay to ascap and BMI.
Publishing royalties are ultimately what caused EMusic to discontinue its all-you-can-eat service.
Well, they sort of tried this on their own a few years back with SDMI. When was the last time you heard anything about SDMI?
Now that they've failed to deliver their own industry standard DRM they want tech companies to deliver one on their behalf? Given the failure of the SDMI working group it seems highly unlikely that an outsider will ever produce a scheme the labels can buy into.
Like it or not, iTunes is the closest anyone has come to this.
This struck me as I was reading the article also. I did have problems logging in with previous versions, but I had a sense that it had something to do with security settings. 1.0.1 PR seems to work fine with the AdSense administrator.
The evidence seems to back you up? What evidence would that be??
Russia has an entirely different copyright structure than America. Hard to believe, I know. And it's probably only a matter of time before the RIAA has it's say about the matter.
In the meantime, sovereign nations are free to implement whatever copyright laws they feel are appropriate -- or none at all.
Wish I had some mod points. This is a valid comment and not a troll. I'm not sure the original post understands the difference between iTunes the media player and iTunes the online music store.
Thanks for making this point. It's sad, but true that only specialty programs seem to understand what an outline is or how someone would want to use an outline. This is another area where Word (and all other modern word processors) are sorely lacking.
Thi sis one of the reasons I continue to use Ecco on my PC and OmniOutliner on my Mac.
I listen to my fair share of Mingus and Coltrane, and I'll have you know that I take offense at your suggestion that The Who are somehow not "smart music".
Moon and Entwistle were a brilliant rhythm section who could easily hold their own with some of the best Jazz men around. Entwistle introduced rock listeners to the previously foreign concept of a bass solo.
Prokofiev is fine, but you really should expand your boundaries. Or maybe you're just trying to get into management.
Actually the weaknesses are not well known or documented. Particularly with security. There are new issues arising daily -- which would be why CERT recommended that users consider changing browsers.
That's the sort of uncertainty that might make enterprise customers nervous.
Ecco is still the best. You are correct that it hasn't been updated since 1997, but it's definitely a Win32 application. I've heard rumours that it runs under WINE as well.
Netmanage essentially abandoned this product although you can still download for free from their ftp site:
ftp://ftp.netmanage.com/support/pub/utilities/EC40 1/
Users manual should be included as well.
This is way more than just a simple outline program. Think unlimited relational outlines connected by user definable columns. All fully integrated with the calendar and address book.
As I contemplate switching to various other platforms this is still the one application I cannot live without. No other outliner/pim comes close to ECCO.
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No, the story is right. This has been widely reported for months. Microsoft is creating an Apple-like closed eco-system for the Zune. You have to buy music from the Zune Marketplace. PlaysForSure songs will not play on Zune.
Actually, according to Microsoft's Zune Insider, Zune WILL allow you to share music that hasn't been purchased through the Zune Marketplace:
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Here's what he says in answer to a question about this:
"I made a song. I own it. How come, when I wirelessly send it to a girl I want to impress, the song has 3 days/3 plays?" Good question. There currently isn't a way to sniff out what you are sending, so we wrap it all up in DRM. We can't tell if you are sending a song from a known band or your own home recording so we default to the safety of encoding. And besides, she'll come see you three days later. . "
Just like it was the users responsibility to know that sharing files via P2P networks was wrong?? And where did that argument get Napster, Kazaa, eDonkey, etc.??
Yesterday was Zune Day - it's sort of like Earth Day, but without the trees. At any rate, this feature was unveiled to a bunch of music and gadget bloggers, and the zune insider from Microsoft (zuneinsider.com) also discussed it as well.
So what you're saying is that Microsoft enables and even encourages these licensing violations?
I'm not sure why this article is written/titled the way it is. There doesn't seem to be any information on the Sony site about circumventing DRM.
Perfect analogy. And one that can easily be extended to the entertainment business.
Move studios don't expect a cut of DVD players (except for Sony, but that's another story).
And why is it that Record Companies never expected a cut of CD Player sales? Or transistor radios? Or a cut of the revenues from radio commercials -- after all, people listen to the radio to hear music. Damn those radio stations, they're making a profit from playing music!
The music industry has always been completely irrational about digital music and these latest comments prove it.
Seriously, if we wanted all of the smart tags and proprietary mark-up that Word generates that be an option that we would choose to include in our exported Word->HTML files? In the year 2005 "Export to HTML" should do just that. Export to clean HTML.
How hard can that be? It's got to be easier than exporting all of the other junk that Word currently generates.
If you think about this problem for more than two minutes it's pretty clear that Microsoft has made a the decision not t export to clean HTML.
I don't follow you. You seem to be missing a zero somewhere. Is this new math?
300 machines at $500 each is $150,000.
There's a huge difference between music and movies. How often do you watch your favorite film? How frequently do you listen to your favorite songs?
Rental may be fine for all but your favorite movies. It just doesn't fit well with the way most consumers use music.
I'm guessing they've worked out a special deal with the labels/publishing companies and they're paying a dramtically reduced royalty for music rental. Probably something closer to what radio stations pay to ascap and BMI.
Publishing royalties are ultimately what caused EMusic to discontinue its all-you-can-eat service.
For those of you who aren't aware 'credit card' is a standard unit of measure on HSN.
Actually, the DirectTV TiVo's have dual tuners. And he DirectTV HD TiVo's have quad tuners.
Well, they sort of tried this on their own a few years back with SDMI. When was the last time you heard anything about SDMI?
Now that they've failed to deliver their own industry standard DRM they want tech companies to deliver one on their behalf? Given the failure of the SDMI working group it seems highly unlikely that an outsider will ever produce a scheme the labels can buy into.
Like it or not, iTunes is the closest anyone has come to this.
This struck me as I was reading the article also. I did have problems logging in with previous versions, but I had a sense that it had something to do with security settings. 1.0.1 PR seems to work fine with the AdSense administrator.
How are bits not tangible?
If they configure themselves to be an artistic work that I can replay again and again they certainly are tangible.
How is a mass produced CD more tangible than a mass produced hard drive that just happens to contain the same reproduction of sound?
The evidence seems to back you up? What evidence would that be??
Russia has an entirely different copyright structure than America. Hard to believe, I know. And it's probably only a matter of time before the RIAA has it's say about the matter.
In the meantime, sovereign nations are free to implement whatever copyright laws they feel are appropriate -- or none at all.
Of course they do, Newton. But their DRM also works on the Windows version of iTunes.
Good question. Previous versions of WiMP have not supported DRM on non-Windows platforms.
My guess is the answer is 'no'. MS will almost certainly try to use DRM as yet another tool perpetuate Windows lock-in.
Wish I had some mod points. This is a valid comment and not a troll. I'm not sure the original post understands the difference between iTunes the media player and iTunes the online music store.
Thanks for making this point. It's sad, but true that only specialty programs seem to understand what an outline is or how someone would want to use an outline. This is another area where Word (and all other modern word processors) are sorely lacking.
Thi sis one of the reasons I continue to use Ecco on my PC and OmniOutliner on my Mac.
I listen to my fair share of Mingus and Coltrane, and I'll have you know that I take offense at your suggestion that The Who are somehow not "smart music".
Moon and Entwistle were a brilliant rhythm section who could easily hold their own with some of the best Jazz men around. Entwistle introduced rock listeners to the previously foreign concept of a bass solo.
Prokofiev is fine, but you really should expand your boundaries. Or maybe you're just trying to get into management.
Actually the weaknesses are not well known or documented. Particularly with security. There are new issues arising daily -- which would be why CERT recommended that users consider changing browsers.
That's the sort of uncertainty that might make enterprise customers nervous.
Ecco is still the best. You are correct that it hasn't been updated since 1997, but it's definitely a Win32 application. I've heard rumours that it runs under WINE as well.
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Netmanage essentially abandoned this product although you can still download for free from their ftp site:
ftp://ftp.netmanage.com/support/pub/utilities/EC4
Users manual should be included as well.
This is way more than just a simple outline program. Think unlimited relational outlines connected by user definable columns. All fully integrated with the calendar and address book.
As I contemplate switching to various other platforms this is still the one application I cannot live without. No other outliner/pim comes close to ECCO.
Anyone have a clue if it's possible to migrate these drives to a newer unit?