All the features are cool, but I really need a combination of functionaltiy and speed. There are definite advantages to the GNOME architecture and Bonobo, but if it takes a few minutes to load a directory, then I am going to be annoyed. I recognize that this is a preview release, but this is something I hope you guys will address.
A few questions:
1. I hate Eye of Gnome, I prefer GQview. I know that it is possible to map the mime types to GQview, but will I no longer be able to preview images without Eye of Gnome installed (as I understand it, Nautilus uses Eye of Gnome w/ Bonobo)?
2. Where can I find more information about programming for Nautilus? For example, I would like to map certain mime types to my application, so the user does not have to do it manually.
It is simply easier to setup a game under windows than it is under Linux. I have tried Quake 3 under Windows and Linux. It took me all day to get it to run on a Red Hat 6.1 system and a few minutes under Windows 98. And once I did get it going, the frame rate was much better in Windows. Tweaking and playing with Linux is great, but not when I want or need to be doing something quickly (this goes for most applications, not just games).
As a side note, it seems that most of the problems with Linux revolve around Xfree86. If Linux is to become a viable alternative, the technical hurdles of X must be overcome, or X needs to be replaced.
That's right, because if someone you hired doesn't have
proper documentation skills, it's all Linux's fault.
Regardless of an employee's documentation skills, this is indeed one of the problems with the development model that the open source community has embraced. Furthermore, most open source applications are poorly documented; both internal and external documentation are simply pathetic. Why do you think there has been such a push for the Linux Documentation Project?
As for COM, it is a gift from god. COM and DirectX are two technologies sorely missing from Linux. However, CORBA and COM are two entirely different beasts.
Wheras COM is a (relativly) simple API, CORBA is quite a beast. Look at the two APIs.
The GNOME team is working to develop Bonobo to address the problems of Corba. From what I have read, the interface is very similar to COM (I haven't used COM before). It essentially just acts as a wrapper for CORBA.
As for using CORBA in the Gnome environment, the GNOME team has developed Gnorba, a wrapper for Corba. Gnorba simplifies things by using GOAD to launch servers. From what I understand, the GNOME team is encouraging people to develop with Bonobo instead of Gnorba.
Now that the components are there, people just need to develop applications to take advantage of them.
Screenshots are great, but it would be really cool to have something to play with. Right now I am really worried that it is going to be a memory hog. Are there any plans for a preview release any time soon?
Also, one thing I would really like to see is improved maneuvering with the keyboard in X. I would like to be able to do everything with just the keyboard if I have to. I know that it is possible to map the mouse pointer to the keypad in X, but on a high-resolution monitor it is just too slow. Now that I think about it, maybe they could just improve on this feature in X...
What incentive is there for the RIAA to move to a medium such as the Internet?
The RIAA makes a lot more money selling CDs at $14-17 dollars a piece than they will by selling individual songs. The RIAA banks on the fact that there are a few hit songs. These hit songs are then separated onto two CDs, with a bunch of mediocre songs filling the gap. Now, instead of purchasing 4 songs you really want for $8 (assuming something like $2/song), you spend about $30.
A few years ago record stores had kiosks where you could select the songs you want and then you would get a CD or a tape for about $15. This was quickly shutdown because the record companies were losing money.
The problem is that any change in the current business model will result in a loss for the RIAA.
Even with secure file formats, it is still possible to capture the raw data as it is going to the sound device. Then it is just a matter of converting it into another format, such as MP3. Am I missing something?
Run NMAP on your default install of a RH 6.1 box. BTW, there is a nice remote exploit for the lpd setup (I can't remember if it is a buffer overflow or just a misconfiguration). Checkout SecurityFocus.com for a look at the problems w/6.1.
Ha! I was right! The yahoo message board they setup says the following:
SPullum (16/male/Poquoson, VA, USA)
This is the kernel coordinator!
Just a bunch of kids with nothing better to do. Go watch some pokemon.
BTW, they are shooting to reproduce the Win9x/ME line. Maybe someone should tell them that this is being discontinued as Microsoft migrates over to the NT kernel.
Chances are that this was thought up after a long night of drinking and smokin' weed. Probably a bunch of kids or college students on vacation with nothing better to do.
I mean they are already calling for artists to design startup and shutdown screens when they don't have a kernel! Talk about jumping the gun!
Whether the standards are open or not it is still a matter of encouraging (or forcing) people to use a new product based upon an existing established product. This is wrong and is one of the points heavily argued in the Microsoft vs. DOJ case.
By the way, AOL hardly embraces open standards. Don't they use a proprietary protocol to connect to their Internet service? (I know they used to.) AOL has never developed a standard and released it to the general public. The open standards that it does use were already well established when AOL came along. There is no way AOL would develop a new music format; it would be as popular as the windows media format. As for Netscape/Mozilla, AOL has no choice but to use open standards; IE has a 75% market share (correct me if I am wrong). And Netscape was open-sourced as a last resort to save the company and the product.
If you want to talk about anti-competitive practices you must also consider their latest Internet connection software. It disabled all other dial-up connections. AOL is using its Internet connection software just like Microsoft uses Windows. Are you starting to see some of the parallels?
When AOL includes Netscape in their client, the tide will turn. Suddenly there's another 22 million users you have to take into account. That comfortable, "lazy" approach of desinging for the IE extensions just won't cut it anymore.
I find this amusing because these are Microsoft's tactics. So many people are tied into one software solution and so they really are forced into using certain applications. AOL really is trying to use the Microsoft strategy by distributing applications such as Winamp, Netscape (Mozilla), AOL Instant Messenger, and ICQ with their popular Internet connection software. I guess I just find it funny that someone from a community advocating open standards and free software (as in speech,) is suggesting that the tactics that AOL will use will benefit the community.
Think if Microsoft decided all of a sudden to just shut down. No more Microsoft products. The linux zealots would start cheering, but would be pissed when they lose their job the next day. We would slip into a fat depression or severe recession. Hehe, if I were Bill I would do it just to spite the government... Sort of a "you fuck me over, I'll fuck you over." Hey, Microsoft could even blackmail the government...
I tried Star Office 5.2, and believe me the Office filters only work for simple documents. I had a document with page numbers, simple text, and tables (used to format some of the text). Star Office botched it, placing page numbers in the middle of the page, all table formatting was gone. A pretty disgusting result. I like MS Office, I can get much more done in it than in Star Office or AbiWord. The other great thing is that with Adobe Acrobat installed, I can create a PDF file from my Word document with one-click. The most important thing by far is that "what you see is what you get," when you work with MS Office.
You don't charge car-makers for facilitating crime by providing get-away cars.
I am tired of hearing analogies like this. The problem is that Napster really has no legitimate use. It is a tool used to facilitate piracy. Some files on Napster are legally distributed, however the percentage is incredibly small. I think Lars said they came across one legal mp3 in their search a few weeks ago. All the arguments that are pro-Napster are from children trying to justify why they have been stealing and why the can continue to steal. The recording industry has problems, but stealing from them will not solve anything.
Wow, you guys must be the 10,000th person to break this story. Congratulations! The prices in the Bay Area are high, they are high in other cities too. Highschool economics explains supply and demand. Deal with it or move.
I have a friend sailing around the world with his wife and they faced this same problem a year ago. They found that the cheapest solution is to use Ham radio. Pretty much they setup an account with their harbor master (Coyote Point in the Bay Area), and brought their laptop with them on board (by the way, the laptop does a lot of other cool things. you can see everything about the ship on it!). It costs them quite a bit of money to send e-mail, so they tend to abbreviate and shorten messages quite a bit.
Now, if you have a bit of money you can invest in a satellite phone, and connect using that. Plus, with that you can get Internet access (just use that 1-800 number for your Internet provider). This will be extremely expensive, but it is possible (I would rather spend money on a nice Hotel or perhaps a nice dinner. Actually, i would buy one of those Tiki dolls that brought the Brady's bad luck).
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All the features are cool, but I really need a combination of functionaltiy and speed. There are definite advantages to the GNOME architecture and Bonobo, but if it takes a few minutes to load a directory, then I am going to be annoyed. I recognize that this is a preview release, but this is something I hope you guys will address.
A few questions:
1. I hate Eye of Gnome, I prefer GQview. I know that it is possible to map the mime types to GQview, but will I no longer be able to preview images without Eye of Gnome installed (as I understand it, Nautilus uses Eye of Gnome w/ Bonobo)?
2. Where can I find more information about programming for Nautilus? For example, I would like to map certain mime types to my application, so the user does not have to do it manually.
Keep up the good work.
Try opening a bunch of new windows. I can get to about 4 or 5, then it crashes. I have tried this on Windows and Linux, but I have not tried M17...
It is simply easier to setup a game under windows than it is under Linux. I have tried Quake 3 under Windows and Linux. It took me all day to get it to run on a Red Hat 6.1 system and a few minutes under Windows 98. And once I did get it going, the frame rate was much better in Windows. Tweaking and playing with Linux is great, but not when I want or need to be doing something quickly (this goes for most applications, not just games).
As a side note, it seems that most of the problems with Linux revolve around Xfree86. If Linux is to become a viable alternative, the technical hurdles of X must be overcome, or X needs to be replaced.
That's right, because if someone you hired doesn't have proper documentation skills, it's all Linux's fault.
Regardless of an employee's documentation skills, this is indeed one of the problems with the development model that the open source community has embraced. Furthermore, most open source applications are poorly documented; both internal and external documentation are simply pathetic. Why do you think there has been such a push for the Linux Documentation Project?
As for COM, it is a gift from god. COM and DirectX are two technologies sorely missing from Linux. However, CORBA and COM are two entirely different beasts. Wheras COM is a (relativly) simple API, CORBA is quite a beast. Look at the two APIs.
The GNOME team is working to develop Bonobo to address the problems of Corba. From what I have read, the interface is very similar to COM (I haven't used COM before). It essentially just acts as a wrapper for CORBA.
As for using CORBA in the Gnome environment, the GNOME team has developed Gnorba, a wrapper for Corba. Gnorba simplifies things by using GOAD to launch servers. From what I understand, the GNOME team is encouraging people to develop with Bonobo instead of Gnorba.
Now that the components are there, people just need to develop applications to take advantage of them.
Screenshots are great, but it would be really cool to have something to play with. Right now I am really worried that it is going to be a memory hog. Are there any plans for a preview release any time soon? Also, one thing I would really like to see is improved maneuvering with the keyboard in X. I would like to be able to do everything with just the keyboard if I have to. I know that it is possible to map the mouse pointer to the keypad in X, but on a high-resolution monitor it is just too slow. Now that I think about it, maybe they could just improve on this feature in X...
What incentive is there for the RIAA to move to a medium such as the Internet?
The RIAA makes a lot more money selling CDs at $14-17 dollars a piece than they will by selling individual songs. The RIAA banks on the fact that there are a few hit songs. These hit songs are then separated onto two CDs, with a bunch of mediocre songs filling the gap. Now, instead of purchasing 4 songs you really want for $8 (assuming something like $2/song), you spend about $30.
A few years ago record stores had kiosks where you could select the songs you want and then you would get a CD or a tape for about $15. This was quickly shutdown because the record companies were losing money.
The problem is that any change in the current business model will result in a loss for the RIAA.
why not just boot your own OS for each request!
Because it takes 3 minutes and 45 seconds to get a login prompt.
Even with secure file formats, it is still possible to capture the raw data as it is going to the sound device. Then it is just a matter of converting it into another format, such as MP3. Am I missing something?
Run NMAP on your default install of a RH 6.1 box. BTW, there is a nice remote exploit for the lpd setup (I can't remember if it is a buffer overflow or just a misconfiguration). Checkout SecurityFocus.com for a look at the problems w/6.1.
Ha! I was right! The yahoo message board they setup says the following:
SPullum
(16/male/Poquoson, VA, USA)
This is the kernel coordinator!
Just a bunch of kids with nothing better to do. Go watch some pokemon.
BTW, they are shooting to reproduce the Win9x/ME line. Maybe someone should tell them that this is being discontinued as Microsoft migrates over to the NT kernel.
Chances are that this was thought up after a long night of drinking and smokin' weed. Probably a bunch of kids or college students on vacation with nothing better to do.
I mean they are already calling for artists to design startup and shutdown screens when they don't have a kernel! Talk about jumping the gun!
One thing to add: Kuro5hin is pronounced "Corosion." It is a play on rusty's name.
Whether the standards are open or not it is still a matter of encouraging (or forcing) people to use a new product based upon an existing established product. This is wrong and is one of the points heavily argued in the Microsoft vs. DOJ case.
By the way, AOL hardly embraces open standards. Don't they use a proprietary protocol to connect to their Internet service? (I know they used to.) AOL has never developed a standard and released it to the general public. The open standards that it does use were already well established when AOL came along. There is no way AOL would develop a new music format; it would be as popular as the windows media format. As for Netscape/Mozilla, AOL has no choice but to use open standards; IE has a 75% market share (correct me if I am wrong). And Netscape was open-sourced as a last resort to save the company and the product.
If you want to talk about anti-competitive practices you must also consider their latest Internet connection software. It disabled all other dial-up connections. AOL is using its Internet connection software just like Microsoft uses Windows. Are you starting to see some of the parallels?
When AOL includes Netscape in their client, the tide will turn. Suddenly there's another 22 million users you have to take into account. That comfortable, "lazy" approach of desinging for the IE extensions just won't cut it anymore.
I find this amusing because these are Microsoft's tactics. So many people are tied into one software solution and so they really are forced into using certain applications. AOL really is trying to use the Microsoft strategy by distributing applications such as Winamp, Netscape (Mozilla), AOL Instant Messenger, and ICQ with their popular Internet connection software. I guess I just find it funny that someone from a community advocating open standards and free software (as in speech,) is suggesting that the tactics that AOL will use will benefit the community.
Why did you tattoo "Die Ubervirus, Die" to your chest?
No, no. It's German for "The Ubervirus, The."
Well, no one who speaks German could be an evil man.
These sound like famous last words.
Ch-Ch-Ch-Chia Computer. New and Improved! Just add water and watch it grow. Warning, Chia Computer may die if not properly cared for.
Think if Microsoft decided all of a sudden to just shut down. No more Microsoft products. The linux zealots would start cheering, but would be pissed when they lose their job the next day. We would slip into a fat depression or severe recession. Hehe, if I were Bill I would do it just to spite the government... Sort of a "you fuck me over, I'll fuck you over." Hey, Microsoft could even blackmail the government...
I tried Star Office 5.2, and believe me the Office filters only work for simple documents. I had a document with page numbers, simple text, and tables (used to format some of the text). Star Office botched it, placing page numbers in the middle of the page, all table formatting was gone. A pretty disgusting result. I like MS Office, I can get much more done in it than in Star Office or AbiWord. The other great thing is that with Adobe Acrobat installed, I can create a PDF file from my Word document with one-click. The most important thing by far is that "what you see is what you get," when you work with MS Office.
You don't charge car-makers for facilitating crime by providing get-away cars.
I am tired of hearing analogies like this. The problem is that Napster really has no legitimate use. It is a tool used to facilitate piracy. Some files on Napster are legally distributed, however the percentage is incredibly small. I think Lars said they came across one legal mp3 in their search a few weeks ago. All the arguments that are pro-Napster are from children trying to justify why they have been stealing and why the can continue to steal. The recording industry has problems, but stealing from them will not solve anything.
Doesn't this violate Napster's policy of no bots? If not, how do they get around it?
Wow, you guys must be the 10,000th person to break this story. Congratulations! The prices in the Bay Area are high, they are high in other cities too. Highschool economics explains supply and demand. Deal with it or move.
I have a friend sailing around the world with his wife and they faced this same problem a year ago. They found that the cheapest solution is to use Ham radio. Pretty much they setup an account with their harbor master (Coyote Point in the Bay Area), and brought their laptop with them on board (by the way, the laptop does a lot of other cool things. you can see everything about the ship on it!). It costs them quite a bit of money to send e-mail, so they tend to abbreviate and shorten messages quite a bit.
Now, if you have a bit of money you can invest in a satellite phone, and connect using that. Plus, with that you can get Internet access (just use that 1-800 number for your Internet provider). This will be extremely expensive, but it is possible (I would rather spend money on a nice Hotel or perhaps a nice dinner. Actually, i would buy one of those Tiki dolls that brought the Brady's bad luck).
Torvalds didn't buy an OS from anyone and use it as a basis for Linux. Linux was written from scratch.
Um, no. Linux was based on Minix. Linux was first posted to alt.os.minix. So, it isn't completely original.