Several people have already pointed out that Hindu is a religion, not a language, but I haven't seen anyone address the acronym itself. I've never heard of the Children's Online Protection Act, but I would think the acronym would be COPA, not CIPA.
Most of your post seems to revolve around how linux is not the proper solution. I didn't read anything about linux in that article. I don't even think the majority of posts here on slashdot said that they should switch to linux. The point seems to be that they were using something that previously worked, but they are now going to switch to something that has an awful lot of risk involved. Nothing here is about anyone being tech savvy. Is CC:Mail only for the tech savvy? How about MS Exchange? You are right that pine or elm probably wouldn't fulfill they're email needs, but (according to many of TW/AOL employees) neither does AOL mail. AOL client software is created to be used at the consumer level by novices. Corporate email places much higher demand on sophisticated features, reliability, and security than what the AOL client was designed for. Unless there is some new Enterprise AOL Client, they are just setting themselves up for costly headaches including drops in productivity, declining employee moral, and bad press.
You shouldn't listen to me, though; I drive a 5-speed, therefore, I am a "specialist". I'm out of touch with the common folk.
Where is my mod status when I need it?
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I could not have said it any better myself. We will NEVER solve these arguements. They are mostly based on the assumptions that not only are you be (in this particular case) Christian, but you are the right kind of Christian (I guess non-Catholic, in this particular case).
I've always hated the arrogance and condescending judgement of people trying to push thier given faith as fact or The Truth(TM). Ironically, I find it is mostly people doing this in the name of Christ, who himself strongly spoke out against this type of behavior.
Mr. Erikson, it is intolerant attitudes like yours that sour Christianity for the rest of the world. Not everyone believes in the same God you do, or even in the same Manner, and that's a good thing.
Meanwhile, Covad has curtailed its expansion plans.
Share prices have already slid more than 98 percent for Covad and Rhythms... Covad shares closed Tuesday at $1-1/32, down 3/16, or 15.4 percent, after a 52-week high of $49.
Covad's bonds are now trading below 10 cents on the dollar...
Now, I don't know much about business, and I can't say this means that COVAD is disappearing, but there certainly is enough said in the article about COVAD. It looks like it's being lumped in with the rest of the DSL providers because it's having the same problems as the rest of the DSL providers.
Another thing that I find sad is that people use the excuses like "that's the way things are" or "you do it, too" to try to argue against someone dissatisfaction with a condition. Fact is I was informing the original poster as to why I and many others think, as a generalization, corporations are evil. I didn't say I never gave into hype, and I didn't blame the corporations for human nature. I DO think it's sad that the marketing of large corporations exploits and encourages these human weaknesses. One thing I will say for myself is that I try to recognize these tendencies and work to better myself. I'd rather not just trust that what ever the rest of society is doing is what I want to do. Many people follow their peers and the rest of society like lemmings, whether it makes sense or not, just because they don't want to be different or considered weird.
The car example is not to show how silly it is that people care what color their car is, it points out the truth of what I see every day on the roads: about 70% of Joe and Mary Suburbanites driving around in their SUV's because... why? It's fashionable. It's a status symbol. The damn things are gas guzzlers, they have a high center of gravity, the bumbers don't match up with other cars and are therefore more dangerous to others on the road; the list goes on. This is not to say I don't do similar things sometimes, but I am aware of it, and I'm pointing out how, when you think about it logically, it really is a backwards way of thinking. If people really chose a sensible car first and then chose the color, our roadways would reflect that. Instead, they support my previous statement.
As far as jeans, I have tried MANY different types of jeans, and Levis are the best I've found. They're durable, come in many different styles, and they show off my ass very nicely. (I have never quite thought about the maintainability or scalability of my jeans, though. Maybe I should reconsider.)
Conventional wisdom is practically an oxymoron. People use the "conventional wisdom" excuse to explain opinions that can't survive logical scrutiny. "Homosexuals cause AIDS." "Blacks are dangerous." "Rock musicians are drug addicts." "Men are better leaders than women." These are all conclusions based on some peoples idea of conventional wisdom; the idea that if most people are doing something, then it MUST be the right thing to do. In a better world, we would grow out of this junior high school mentality. Instead we live in a world where people insist that Britney Spears is a great musician based on how many records she has sold. Conventional wisdom, indeed.
Conventional wisdom would also dictate that one should actually read a post before he responds to it. I don't recall that my previous post was actually supposed to be about how entertaining Dennis Miller may or may not be. I know I didn't say that I watched it or had ever even seen it. I certainly wouldn't have mentioned my secret affair that I've been having with him. (We're just friends. Really.)
The sad part is the reality of what it is people want: people buy hype, and that's pathetic. I believe AOL is the biggest online service out there. Is this because of the stunning quality of service? Is it because of the impressive intelligence of their tech support? No. It's because it is marketed down our throats, and those that are less tech savy (for the most part) think that everyone else is doing it. The reason that I think most corporations are evil is that they prey on and contribute to the a great deal of the misinformation that ends up influencing most purchasing. A mom and pop ISP (of which I subscribe to 2, just to show support) is more likely to concentrate on putting out a good service, where as a corporation is more likely to concentrate on marketing the hell out of a mediocre service buy preying on the natural weaknesses that govern the decision making throughout most of our society.
Statistically, the #1 factor in the average person's decision on which car to buy is color. This is sad. Most people would rather have a [whatever_color] car than have a car that gets good gas mileage or one with an acceptable repair history. It's the same sort of thinking that leads people to want to buy a gateway computer because it "has the internet." Corporations are evil because they thrive off and promote this kind of backward mentality. Do you remember when Dennis Miller had a late night talk show? It was cancelled. Do you know why? Not because of bad ratings. It was because they couldn't sell ad time. Corporations didn't want to buy ad time because the demographic that watched Dennis Miller's show was too intelligent. The general viewer of that show was too well informed and was not as likely to be influenced by slick advertising, so it was not worth it to run commercials during his show.
Sure, you may say, this is sound business thinking. Well, I say, if this is a good corporate decision, then corporations are ulitimately evil for promoting the lowest common denominator in our society.
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Because it has been done before does not necessarily make it right. Just because the actions acheive one goal does not negate or excuse the negative (or even possible negative) repercussions of those actions. Slavery was done for ages and many people prospered as a result of the slave trade, but thankfully it is now illegal. I believe it was Ralph Waldo Emerson who said --
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
An even more appropriate quote, though, would be the one from Benjamin Franklin used by the OpenBSD team --
"They that can give up liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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See, now that is funny.
The parent of that post is funny, too, but I don't know if it was meant to be. It certainly says something, though, about how many moderators don't actually read the story they are moderating.
You said "Is there any point to this release? I can't see one..."
Now maybe you do. The point is to provide people with alternatives. I would think that you, as a linux user, would be painfully aware of how valuable that is.
The idea expressed in your first post came across to me as (simplified) "because most people use IE on Win32 and Mozilla/Konquerer/whatever on *nix, there is no point to Netscape releasing a new product." I find this incredibly silly at best.
I was not implying that you are a Microsoft fan, I was stating that the "we know what user's really want" philosophy parallels what a lot of people claim to hate about Microsoft, yet they turn around and do the same thing in regards to their own preferences and prejudices. That sort of hypocrisy gets my dander up. I'm sorry if that was not your meaning, but that was how it came across.
What a crock. You are assuming you have this wonderful idea of what is best for everyone. Hmm... sounds like the similar dillusions of one Mr. Gates.
Fact is, I'm on a WinNT box, and I use Netscape (v4.61) almost exclusively. Why 'almost'? Well, the company I work for makes its intranet for IE only, so I have to keep it around. I have tried 3 different versions of IE and all of them do the same thing to varying degrees; they misdraw most frames, outlines around buttons, and outlines around text boxes. These lines appear in random places all over the desktop and won't go away (even after closing IE) until I F5 or "wipe" my screen with a different program. Not everyone has this problem, but I'm not the only one either.
Even if this little bug that makes my screen practically unreadable at times didn't exist, I would probably still use Netscape. It never crashes on me, I prefer the interface, I prefer the 'bookmarks' method rather than the 'favorites' method, and it's not so intertwined with the functioning of the OS.
I realize my experiences are not the same as everyone. That's my point; just because you think IE is better doesn't mean everyone thinks IE is better. Even if most people think IE is better, that still doesn't make you right. If you really think you know what's best for everyone else, there's a little company in Redmond you might to apply to work at, because they have a similar philosophy.
By the way, on Linux, I used Netscape exclusively until KDE2 came out, now I also use Konquerer.
As someone else said, the directory structure is there (actually, just a link is there, but no directory), but there is no page or file. If you go to Netscape's pages (either here or here), it would appear that preview release 3 is the latest 6.0 product available.
This stuff should really be checked out before it's posted. It seems kind of lazy to make your readers correct this stuff for you.
I don't know about a specific site, but I will tell you a good card - Voodoo3. I have PPro 200 with 64MB RAM and no AGP slot. I bought a PCI Voodoo3 2000, and I was able to run Quake3Arena with mid-quality graphics (i.e. not on 'fast' or 'fastest' settings) at between 20 and 40 fps. Not what some people consider acceptable, but I found this remarkable considering the min. hardware requirements (according to the box) involves a P266. Depending on whether or not you have an AGP slot, I would say either a Voodoo3 or GeForceMX is going to give you the most bang for your buck. More info can be found here and here.
Most of the games I like to play are windows games. I could do away completely with windows if it wasn't for the games (geez, I sound like an addict). I would much prefer this the other way around; give me a cd with windows games that I can play on linux. That way I don't have to have a seperate machine/partition just for windows.
The only problem I see here is that cdrom drives are much slower than hard drives (which is why those games load all the stuff onto your hard drive in the first place). This means that data flow becomes the bottle-neck. Still, it would be cool to have a windows game/os on cdrom with the only thing saved to the hard drive is saved games and config files.
If I read the article correctly, it is actually very fair. MS has X amount of time to prepare a statement, and then DOJ has an equal amount of time to respond (but fewer pages). MS then has the oportunity to respond to the DOJ response.
The book I'm using is Building Linux and OpenBSD Firewalls (published by Wiley) and I recommend it to anyone getting started with firewalls. It is very well written and is set up in a way that allows to set up a firewall quickly and THEN go back and read about what you've done. I have found it extremely valuable in learning the ins and outs of securing a small network. This book may have even been reviewed on/. at sometime, but I'm too lazy to look right now. I found this book because I've been looking into using OpenBSD for certain tasks, and when I searched at both Fatbrain and Amazon for "OpenBSD", this was the only book that returned. I took and chance and got it, and I'm VERY pleased with my purchase.
I was in a band. Our bass player started a record label and zine. We sold our cd's for $8 a piece. We did undercut the big names. Dischord undercuts the big names all the time, and has been for about 10 years. The major labels make ridiculous amounts of money, but they also waste it on Backstreet Boys lifesize cardboard stands and Britney Spears breast implants etc. It doesn't LOOK like they have a huge profit margin because they put it against the costs of every stupid penny they waste on advertising and lawyers that sue Napster and mp3.com.
As for soda; it's the restaurants (and movie theaters) that have the gigantic profit margin there.
I only checked one company, if you go here you'll see that for $3485 you get 5000 pressed cd's (no jewel case or sleeves). That's about $0.70 a piece. Considering how pathetic artist royalties are, this means a ridiculous profit margin for record companies (or whomever). The only thing I know of with a greater profit margin is soda (profit: about $0.95 on the dollar!), but at least in most restaurants they give you free refills.
I could also afford a $5 cup of coffee, but that doesn't mean it's not grossly (and unfairly) over priced - ESPECIALLY if that price is being fixed by the coffee bean growers. Sure, I can afford to buy a cd at $17, but I could probably afford 2 cd's at $10 a piece. Think of how big your cd collection is, and then think that, for the amount of money you spent, it should be almost twice as big. Sounds like a good reason to complain to me.
how did a band like Fugazi (and all other Dischord label bands) manage to sell all of their cd's for under $10.00? Also, will this effect the cost of cdr and cdrw media? This would make it even easier for bands to create their own product and, along with mp3's, completely undermine the idea of record company and radio control over what people listen to. Now if we could only get rid of mtv (sigh).
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Several people have already pointed out that Hindu is a religion, not a language, but I haven't seen anyone address the acronym itself. I've never heard of the Children's Online Protection Act, but I would think the acronym would be COPA, not CIPA.
You are right that pine or elm probably wouldn't fulfill they're email needs, but (according to many of TW/AOL employees) neither does AOL mail. AOL client software is created to be used at the consumer level by novices. Corporate email places much higher demand on sophisticated features, reliability, and security than what the AOL client was designed for. Unless there is some new Enterprise AOL Client, they are just setting themselves up for costly headaches including drops in productivity, declining employee moral, and bad press.
You shouldn't listen to me, though; I drive a 5-speed, therefore, I am a "specialist". I'm out of touch with the common folk.
Moderators, give us a hand and mod this post up!
I could not have said it any better myself. We will NEVER solve these arguements. They are mostly based on the assumptions that not only are you be (in this particular case) Christian, but you are the right kind of Christian (I guess non-Catholic, in this particular case).
I've always hated the arrogance and condescending judgement of people trying to push thier given faith as fact or The Truth(TM). Ironically, I find it is mostly people doing this in the name of Christ, who himself strongly spoke out against this type of behavior.
Mr. Erikson, it is intolerant attitudes like yours that sour Christianity for the rest of the world. Not everyone believes in the same God you do, or even in the same Manner, and that's a good thing.
I don't care what the context is, I'm always a little apprehensive about clicking on a link labeled as 'extensive poop'.
Another thing that I find sad is that people use the excuses like "that's the way things are" or "you do it, too" to try to argue against someone dissatisfaction with a condition. Fact is I was informing the original poster as to why I and many others think, as a generalization, corporations are evil. I didn't say I never gave into hype, and I didn't blame the corporations for human nature. I DO think it's sad that the marketing of large corporations exploits and encourages these human weaknesses. One thing I will say for myself is that I try to recognize these tendencies and work to better myself. I'd rather not just trust that what ever the rest of society is doing is what I want to do. Many people follow their peers and the rest of society like lemmings, whether it makes sense or not, just because they don't want to be different or considered weird.
The car example is not to show how silly it is that people care what color their car is, it points out the truth of what I see every day on the roads: about 70% of Joe and Mary Suburbanites driving around in their SUV's because... why? It's fashionable. It's a status symbol. The damn things are gas guzzlers, they have a high center of gravity, the bumbers don't match up with other cars and are therefore more dangerous to others on the road; the list goes on. This is not to say I don't do similar things sometimes, but I am aware of it, and I'm pointing out how, when you think about it logically, it really is a backwards way of thinking. If people really chose a sensible car first and then chose the color, our roadways would reflect that. Instead, they support my previous statement.
As far as jeans, I have tried MANY different types of jeans, and Levis are the best I've found. They're durable, come in many different styles, and they show off my ass very nicely. (I have never quite thought about the maintainability or scalability of my jeans, though. Maybe I should reconsider.)
Conventional wisdom would also dictate that one should actually read a post before he responds to it. I don't recall that my previous post was actually supposed to be about how entertaining Dennis Miller may or may not be. I know I didn't say that I watched it or had ever even seen it. I certainly wouldn't have mentioned my secret affair that I've been having with him. (We're just friends. Really.)
Statistically, the #1 factor in the average person's decision on which car to buy is color. This is sad. Most people would rather have a [whatever_color] car than have a car that gets good gas mileage or one with an acceptable repair history. It's the same sort of thinking that leads people to want to buy a gateway computer because it "has the internet." Corporations are evil because they thrive off and promote this kind of backward mentality.
Do you remember when Dennis Miller had a late night talk show? It was cancelled. Do you know why? Not because of bad ratings. It was because they couldn't sell ad time. Corporations didn't want to buy ad time because the demographic that watched Dennis Miller's show was too intelligent. The general viewer of that show was too well informed and was not as likely to be influenced by slick advertising, so it was not worth it to run commercials during his show.
Sure, you may say, this is sound business thinking. Well, I say, if this is a good corporate decision, then corporations are ulitimately evil for promoting the lowest common denominator in our society.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
An even more appropriate quote, though, would be the one from Benjamin Franklin used by the OpenBSD team --
"They that can give up liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
right. sorry.
See, now that is funny.
The parent of that post is funny, too, but I don't know if it was meant to be. It certainly says something, though, about how many moderators don't actually read the story they are moderating.
Now maybe you do.
The point is to provide people with alternatives. I would think that you, as a linux user, would be painfully aware of how valuable that is.
The idea expressed in your first post came across to me as (simplified) "because most people use IE on Win32 and Mozilla/Konquerer/whatever on *nix, there is no point to Netscape releasing a new product." I find this incredibly silly at best.
I was not implying that you are a Microsoft fan, I was stating that the "we know what user's really want" philosophy parallels what a lot of people claim to hate about Microsoft, yet they turn around and do the same thing in regards to their own preferences and prejudices. That sort of hypocrisy gets my dander up. I'm sorry if that was not your meaning, but that was how it came across.
Hmm... sounds like the similar dillusions of one Mr. Gates.
Fact is, I'm on a WinNT box, and I use Netscape (v4.61) almost exclusively. Why 'almost'? Well, the company I work for makes its intranet for IE only, so I have to keep it around. I have tried 3 different versions of IE and all of them do the same thing to varying degrees; they misdraw most frames, outlines around buttons, and outlines around text boxes. These lines appear in random places all over the desktop and won't go away (even after closing IE) until I F5 or "wipe" my screen with a different program. Not everyone has this problem, but I'm not the only one either.
Even if this little bug that makes my screen practically unreadable at times didn't exist, I would probably still use Netscape. It never crashes on me, I prefer the interface, I prefer the 'bookmarks' method rather than the 'favorites' method, and it's not so intertwined with the functioning of the OS.
I realize my experiences are not the same as everyone. That's my point; just because you think IE is better doesn't mean everyone thinks IE is better. Even if most people think IE is better, that still doesn't make you right.
If you really think you know what's best for everyone else, there's a little company in Redmond you might to apply to work at, because they have a similar philosophy.
By the way, on Linux, I used Netscape exclusively until KDE2 came out, now I also use Konquerer.
This stuff should really be checked out before it's posted. It seems kind of lazy to make your readers correct this stuff for you.
I don't know about a specific site, but I will tell you a good card - Voodoo3. I have PPro 200 with 64MB RAM and no AGP slot. I bought a PCI Voodoo3 2000, and I was able to run Quake3Arena with mid-quality graphics (i.e. not on 'fast' or 'fastest' settings) at between 20 and 40 fps. Not what some people consider acceptable, but I found this remarkable considering the min. hardware requirements (according to the box) involves a P266. Depending on whether or not you have an AGP slot, I would say either a Voodoo3 or GeForceMX is going to give you the most bang for your buck. More info can be found here and here.
Most of the games I like to play are windows games. I could do away completely with windows if it wasn't for the games (geez, I sound like an addict). I would much prefer this the other way around; give me a cd with windows games that I can play on linux. That way I don't have to have a seperate machine/partition just for windows.
The only problem I see here is that cdrom drives are much slower than hard drives (which is why those games load all the stuff onto your hard drive in the first place). This means that data flow becomes the bottle-neck. Still, it would be cool to have a windows game/os on cdrom with the only thing saved to the hard drive is saved games and config files.
If I read the article correctly, it is actually very fair. MS has X amount of time to prepare a statement, and then DOJ has an equal amount of time to respond (but fewer pages). MS then has the oportunity to respond to the DOJ response.
The book I'm using is Building Linux and OpenBSD Firewalls (published by Wiley) and I recommend it to anyone getting started with firewalls. It is very well written and is set up in a way that allows to set up a firewall quickly and THEN go back and read about what you've done. I have found it extremely valuable in learning the ins and outs of securing a small network. This book may have even been reviewed on /. at sometime, but I'm too lazy to look right now. I found this book because I've been looking into using OpenBSD for certain tasks, and when I searched at both Fatbrain and Amazon for "OpenBSD", this was the only book that returned. I took and chance and got it, and I'm VERY pleased with my purchase.
I was in a band. Our bass player started a record label and zine. We sold our cd's for $8 a piece. We did undercut the big names. Dischord undercuts the big names all the time, and has been for about 10 years. The major labels make ridiculous amounts of money, but they also waste it on Backstreet Boys lifesize cardboard stands and Britney Spears breast implants etc. It doesn't LOOK like they have a huge profit margin because they put it against the costs of every stupid penny they waste on advertising and lawyers that sue Napster and mp3.com.
As for soda; it's the restaurants (and movie theaters) that have the gigantic profit margin there.
I only checked one company, if you go here you'll see that for $3485 you get 5000 pressed cd's (no jewel case or sleeves). That's about $0.70 a piece. Considering how pathetic artist royalties are, this means a ridiculous profit margin for record companies (or whomever). The only thing I know of with a greater profit margin is soda (profit: about $0.95 on the dollar!), but at least in most restaurants they give you free refills.
I could also afford a $5 cup of coffee, but that doesn't mean it's not grossly (and unfairly) over priced - ESPECIALLY if that price is being fixed by the coffee bean growers. Sure, I can afford to buy a cd at $17, but I could probably afford 2 cd's at $10 a piece. Think of how big your cd collection is, and then think that, for the amount of money you spent, it should be almost twice as big. Sounds like a good reason to complain to me.
how did a band like Fugazi (and all other Dischord label bands) manage to sell all of their cd's for under $10.00? Also, will this effect the cost of cdr and cdrw media? This would make it even easier for bands to create their own product and, along with mp3's, completely undermine the idea of record company and radio control over what people listen to. Now if we could only get rid of mtv (sigh).