It is not just 'Microsoft' that is interested in using C#, it is developers. It singificantly reduces development time, much less code to manage, and much more difficult to introduce buggy code then using C/C++.
I don't know where you get the idea only 'real' game studios use all C++. Many 'real' game studios also use C#
In addition on other platforms you can use C# with the mono framework, so it is not locked into Microsoft.
for some people it may seem less fun, if so nobody is stopping you for writing libraries yourself (except for maybe employers who are concerned about something called 'return on investment')
however another take is that programmer's don't get stuck with writing mundane functions that have already been written 1,000s of times. the use of libraries can deliver more reliable applications in less time. library developers can specialize in a particular function and good libraries do functions much better than 'write it yourself' a classic example is encryption libraries...although easy to write your own encryption library, there are so many ways security can be weakened that you may not realize unless you are specializing in this field.
in the end programmers are developing better applications, and delivering them more quickly
use of libraries live on...
What this report doesn't understand is good Anti-Virus products such as McAfee and Symantec are already covering known software/OS vunerabilities, before the vendors provide software/OS updates. So while there may be a lot of security updates out there, that does not mean the Windows user is vunerable just because the software is not patched.
somehow I doubt whoever is running this project hasn't heard of something called ROI.
however if you have money and time to waste some options include:
1) find a better solution to meet your requirement - i.e. think "what is the end result I need to achieve" before thinking of the technical solution "how am I going to achieve this"
2) partnership with hard disk controller manufacturer
3) reverse engineer firwmare on a hard disk controller and remove any error correction code/etc (and take the data unreliability that comes with that) + create your code to actually write and read the disk. In addition this will lock your product to a particular model of a particular brand of hard disk.
anyway if you ever succeed let us know how it was done.
our government here in australia is completely clueless in areas of technology, but i still think a lot of the general population just don't care.. anyway hopefully they get kicked out in next election (please! some good alternatives!)...and stop wasting our money on the completely pointless NBN
hopefully i didn't offend anyone, hate to go to prison for this comment..
on 2nd thoughts they're probably more likely to apply a filter excluding all content with keywords "government", "australia" and "waste"
I really don't believe this is the normal trend for Winodws 7. I've been using Windows 7 on four machines - 2 running x64 and 2 running x86 (2 laptops, 2 workstations) since beta in January and haven't seen memory usage problems. I've also tested numerous other hardware models, many on or below the recommended spec - i.e. systems with 512 MB ram, and also machines with 1 GB ram, In the performance tab of task manager in Windows 7 you will see large amount of ram used for cache.
Windows 7 is very responsive, and fast...basicially totally awesome, I couldn't stand having to go back to XP.
Possibly there are some applications people running that are memory hogs, but it's not Windows 7.
you're using windows 7 and batch files? use powershell, more powerful than any of the unix based shells (that i've seen)
and there must be something wrong with your system...or non-OS processed using up CPU & memory....because i've used windows 7 on below minimum spec machines ( 1 GHz CPU and 512 MB ram and the command prompt was still very responsive.)
Even long term costs of open source can be high in corporate environmenets. Generally licensing costs are just a tiny fraction of the costs for maintenance and support. Open source products tend to have major revisions more frequently, resulting in more update cycles/app test & deployment. There may also be impacts on productivity - i.e. open source office products may be good for some basic documentation, but products like Microsoft Office make it easier to do more in less time, and with less bugs. In addition commercial products often have higher quality documentation and more polished user interfaces, which can reduce training costs for support staff and end users.
230 pupil school and 50 fold improvement in servers being used? I'd like to see how they came up with that.
Anyone designing a Windows environment with 48 servers for 230 users must be insane. ???
they are 'agreements' that you accept when you use the products, if you don't think they are fare don't agree to them. personally i prefer to take the agreement and experience time saving & productivity increases with a product that is not constantly getting new but buggy features.
With default Windows 7 settings, the current exploit doesn't work. IE8 in XP without DEP protection. It CAN theoritically be expolited with DEP but haven't seen any current exploits that work around DEP protection.
Also running with non-admin privileges (recommended, and default in vista & windows 7) reduces the attack surface (i.e. backdoors can't be installed without taking advantage of some other vunerability)
so the IE vunerability is a bit overblown, following good security practices (which are default in vista & windows 7) already prevent the known attacks.
I've tested the exploit in virtual machine in Windows 7 x32 and Windows XP SP3 and it doesn't work. These are default installs of OS with no config changes. When run in Windows 7 x32 as Administrator it did cause BSOD. Running as standard user it did nothing, the process supposed to have escalated priviliges did not.
anybody else found it working?
yes people should stop using IE 6, besides the horrible interface, many new websites don't display correctly in it, it is a browser dating back to 2001 and outdated by now, 2 versions behind current Microsoft product. People with windows updates should already be using a more secure browser IE 7 or IE 8, or one of their choice.
And although IE6 has been significantly attacked - switching to other browsers does not make you immune, Chrome, Safari, Firefox have all had security flaws.
IE8 holds up well to other browsers re http://nsslabs.com/test-reports/Q309_Browser_Security_Summary_Final.pdf
Also there are some social engineering style attacks that no browser currently protects against completely - sites that people are fooled into believing they are legitimate and passing personal details/etc.
buy windows 7 and save all the pain of using WINE or ReactOS, or ReactOS on WINE. the amount of time you save in trying to get things work (wow! my apps just work without any hacks!) will very quickly pay for the cost of the windows license. (of course time itself doesn't buy a windows license, assuming you have an income;)
For me using Wine and ReactOS there is no saving *yet* - just a whole lot of wasted time. If it eventualls gets high level of compatibility/stability then great, but for now it's a great toy in my experience can waste a lot of time.
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The definition of cross-platform is software that works on more than one system platform. Doesn't have to include OSX and Linux.
Windows Phone Series 7 != Windows XBOX != Windows
keep in mind this is for 3 completely different hardware types....this is why there is 10% of unshared code, to account for changes in the hardware.
It is not just 'Microsoft' that is interested in using C#, it is developers. It singificantly reduces development time, much less code to manage, and much more difficult to introduce buggy code then using C/C++. I don't know where you get the idea only 'real' game studios use all C++. Many 'real' game studios also use C# In addition on other platforms you can use C# with the mono framework, so it is not locked into Microsoft.
for some people it may seem less fun, if so nobody is stopping you for writing libraries yourself (except for maybe employers who are concerned about something called 'return on investment') however another take is that programmer's don't get stuck with writing mundane functions that have already been written 1,000s of times. the use of libraries can deliver more reliable applications in less time. library developers can specialize in a particular function and good libraries do functions much better than 'write it yourself' a classic example is encryption libraries...although easy to write your own encryption library, there are so many ways security can be weakened that you may not realize unless you are specializing in this field. in the end programmers are developing better applications, and delivering them more quickly use of libraries live on...
What this report doesn't understand is good Anti-Virus products such as McAfee and Symantec are already covering known software/OS vunerabilities, before the vendors provide software/OS updates. So while there may be a lot of security updates out there, that does not mean the Windows user is vunerable just because the software is not patched.
somehow I doubt whoever is running this project hasn't heard of something called ROI. however if you have money and time to waste some options include: 1) find a better solution to meet your requirement - i.e. think "what is the end result I need to achieve" before thinking of the technical solution "how am I going to achieve this" 2) partnership with hard disk controller manufacturer 3) reverse engineer firwmare on a hard disk controller and remove any error correction code/etc (and take the data unreliability that comes with that) + create your code to actually write and read the disk. In addition this will lock your product to a particular model of a particular brand of hard disk. anyway if you ever succeed let us know how it was done.
our government here in australia is completely clueless in areas of technology, but i still think a lot of the general population just don't care.. anyway hopefully they get kicked out in next election (please! some good alternatives!)...and stop wasting our money on the completely pointless NBN hopefully i didn't offend anyone, hate to go to prison for this comment.. on 2nd thoughts they're probably more likely to apply a filter excluding all content with keywords "government", "australia" and "waste"
I really don't believe this is the normal trend for Winodws 7. I've been using Windows 7 on four machines - 2 running x64 and 2 running x86 (2 laptops, 2 workstations) since beta in January and haven't seen memory usage problems. I've also tested numerous other hardware models, many on or below the recommended spec - i.e. systems with 512 MB ram, and also machines with 1 GB ram, In the performance tab of task manager in Windows 7 you will see large amount of ram used for cache. Windows 7 is very responsive, and fast...basicially totally awesome, I couldn't stand having to go back to XP. Possibly there are some applications people running that are memory hogs, but it's not Windows 7.
you're using windows 7 and batch files? use powershell, more powerful than any of the unix based shells (that i've seen) and there must be something wrong with your system...or non-OS processed using up CPU & memory....because i've used windows 7 on below minimum spec machines ( 1 GHz CPU and 512 MB ram and the command prompt was still very responsive.)
Even long term costs of open source can be high in corporate environmenets. Generally licensing costs are just a tiny fraction of the costs for maintenance and support. Open source products tend to have major revisions more frequently, resulting in more update cycles/app test & deployment. There may also be impacts on productivity - i.e. open source office products may be good for some basic documentation, but products like Microsoft Office make it easier to do more in less time, and with less bugs. In addition commercial products often have higher quality documentation and more polished user interfaces, which can reduce training costs for support staff and end users.
Just to clairfy - this is not the position of Microsoft, this is the view of one employee at Microsoft.
i have a couple of books around me - guess what? i can turn them anyway I want as well, AND see the whole page at the same time.
well it uses Apple A4 chip, based on ARM architecture with integrated GPU. possibly linux compiled for ARM processor may run with some modification?
exactly, fail from apple. And LCD screens are poor for serious reading, so don't see this taking away the eReader market.
couldn't have said it better myself
Scientology Gullibility Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IQQE04_TCM
230 pupil school and 50 fold improvement in servers being used? I'd like to see how they came up with that. Anyone designing a Windows environment with 48 servers for 230 users must be insane. ???
they are 'agreements' that you accept when you use the products, if you don't think they are fare don't agree to them. personally i prefer to take the agreement and experience time saving & productivity increases with a product that is not constantly getting new but buggy features.
it makes it more difficult to use illegal copies of windows (what a crime!)
if you have a genuine copy of these products MS will fix it over the phone.
With default Windows 7 settings, the current exploit doesn't work. IE8 in XP without DEP protection. It CAN theoritically be expolited with DEP but haven't seen any current exploits that work around DEP protection. Also running with non-admin privileges (recommended, and default in vista & windows 7) reduces the attack surface (i.e. backdoors can't be installed without taking advantage of some other vunerability) so the IE vunerability is a bit overblown, following good security practices (which are default in vista & windows 7) already prevent the known attacks.
I've tested the exploit in virtual machine in Windows 7 x32 and Windows XP SP3 and it doesn't work. These are default installs of OS with no config changes. When run in Windows 7 x32 as Administrator it did cause BSOD. Running as standard user it did nothing, the process supposed to have escalated priviliges did not. anybody else found it working?
yes people should stop using IE 6, besides the horrible interface, many new websites don't display correctly in it, it is a browser dating back to 2001 and outdated by now, 2 versions behind current Microsoft product. People with windows updates should already be using a more secure browser IE 7 or IE 8, or one of their choice. And although IE6 has been significantly attacked - switching to other browsers does not make you immune, Chrome, Safari, Firefox have all had security flaws. IE8 holds up well to other browsers re http://nsslabs.com/test-reports/Q309_Browser_Security_Summary_Final.pdf Also there are some social engineering style attacks that no browser currently protects against completely - sites that people are fooled into believing they are legitimate and passing personal details/etc.
buy windows 7 and save all the pain of using WINE or ReactOS, or ReactOS on WINE. the amount of time you save in trying to get things work (wow! my apps just work without any hacks!) will very quickly pay for the cost of the windows license. (of course time itself doesn't buy a windows license, assuming you have an income ;)
For me using Wine and ReactOS there is no saving *yet* - just a whole lot of wasted time. If it eventualls gets high level of compatibility/stability then great, but for now it's a great toy in my experience can waste a lot of time.