Seriously, why should we try to inspire women to get into comp sci? If it's interesting to them, they will come to it on their own. If not, that's fine too. We don't get all worked up when the number of men becoming seamstress' drops. Oh no! We need to find a way to inspire men to become seamstress'!
Men and women, IN GENERAL, have different interests AND THAT'S OK. It's also ignorant to think that men and woman do not have different strengths. We do, and that favors certain careers over others.
All that I aside, I wouldn't encourage any woman (or man for that matter) into this fucked up field since it's a dying art in the U.S. 10 years from now there will be hardly any programmers in the U.S. except for ones working on military systems.
I also find it funny how many of these people actually think this is a free market economy. The term "free market" indicates a free echange of goods based on supply and demand. Too bad it's not that simple. Trade agreements and differences in costs of living dramatically lopside the market one way of the other. Consequently, free markets only exist on paper and not in reality.
Our fine government even rewards companies for firing people here in the U.S. and sending offshore. That must mean our government loves us so.
Degree requirements are simply barriers to entry. It's an easy way to turn people down if they don't have one, however, this only matters when starting a career. If you manage to get around this problem, your experience will be what matters. I've found that a degree is completely meaningless. I've met people with Comp Sci degrees from respected colleges who couldn't figure out how to use a damn pointer.
Like most things in life, you either have "the knack" or you don't. If you don't, no piece of paper will ever make you a good programmer.
The bottom line is that people will not switch to ebooks until their benefits outweigh that of their paper cousins. Paper books are: INEXPENSIVE, can be read in a variety of lighting, can be re-sold, they do not require batteries, they are compatible with speed readers, reading them doesn't cause eye strain.
There isn't much going for ebooks. You pay hundreds of dollars for the reader, you have to worry about battery power, the text isn't as readable as paper, DRM means you cannot sell your copy of a book to someone else and that there may even be a time limit on reading the book. There is a much smaller selection of content available.
Really the only thing going for ebooks is the ability to do searches through the book or a dictionary lookup. This is very cool but not generally necessary when reading a novel, and it certainly doesn't outweigh all the negatives associated with ebooks. I love gadgets but even I wouldn't buy a pos ebook.
It's unfortunate that ebook manufacturers simply don't get it: THEY OFFER NOTHING BUT HIGH COST BOOK READING. They and the publishers can go fuck themselves.
Yeah cuz it would be so much better to sit around watching t.v. all day and playing bridge/golf on the weekends! No fucking way I'm giving that up for video games!
lol...there are LOTS of things vulnerable to brute force attacks. Security is a joke because most companies simply say they support this and that so they can put a checkmark in their feature list. It's not that they really care to make anything secure. Even in rare cases where an implementation is good, it's even more rare that a good password is used (which is essential regardless of how fancy your encryption) because people can't remember long passwords and software rarely requires users to pick secure passwords.
Actually, the information was supposedly "hacked" by a housewife (I shit you not) and mother of four kids. Not only did she find source code for some of their systems, she found voter registration information, recorded votes, etc. If you do some searching on Wired you can find an article about her. Diebold apparently has very weak security into their systems.
"If you could vote from home, you'd put less thought into it. It would be one step closer to a news site poll, except THIS poll would make our final official selections. People wouldn't take it seriously enough. More people would vote, but the quality of those votes would not carry the same weight."
You must be joking. With the people in office today, I don't see how you could make the above statement with a straight face. For the sake of argument though, lets say you're right. Even with our supposed "serious consideration" of the candidates, it hasn't helped us to get better candidates or better elected officials. It's just more PAC money-hungry assholes replacing the previous PAC money-hungry assholes.
Actually, all but the DOS attacks could be solved simply with biometric fingerprinting. Of course, a lot of people would have issues with getting fingerprinted (myself included). Another issue is that most people do not have fingerprint readers, although they are pretty inexpensive these days. Such devices could also be used for online identification for bank logins, purchases, etc. It would solve many many problems.
Actually, India has had major problems with their system. Go back a few days and you can find a/. article on it. India has also had a long history of voting irregularities not covered by that article (search on voter hijacking).
lol...I love how people critique you for saying don't work for free. If you disagree with Mr. Moderation Abuser, you need to ask yourself, "Who's the fucked up one here?"
Working for free is stupid. Don't be stupid. Your job going to India has nothing to do with being paid for overtime. Free overtime is nothing but a bunch of brainwashing that's been going on forever now in our industry.
You don't seriously believe that lazyness will win out over money, do you? If your school believes that they could be liable for big $, you can bet your ass they will drop that system in before you can say "Kazaa."
I'm sure you can find some trite examples that prove your point, but I doubt you could provide examples of real world complex apps where this is true. A well written JIT should almost always have the advantage.
Listen dipshit, people buy Toyota's over American made cars because Toyota's are better cars. If anything, they are more expensive than the American equivalents. I'll even cut you some slack on the Toyota's being made in America bit since it wasn't like that in the beginning when the Japanese manufacturers were still making everything in Japan.
That said, I don't know of any studies that show Indians producing better quality code than their American counterparts. Consequently, it's all about the money. We can't compete with people who work for 1/5th our wages (presuming their code quality/productivity is roughly equivalent to ours). In the auto industry, it was an issue of quality since the prices of the same class of vehicles is usually pretty damn close.
Try coming up with an analogy that makes sense, thanks.
"It makes me wonder, how our state can run without sales tax, and without state income tax. I mean, it's a wonder we survive at all! Now, look at Mass, and California, loads of taxes! Boy, those people sure are better off with all those taxes and government programs! But, I digress."
This is off topic, but I feel obligated to respond since I hear this shit all the time from people who don't know what they're talking about.
In California, they spend well over a billion dollars a year to educate illegal aliens that the federal government can't seem to keep out of the country. That's just the beginning of the spending they have to deal with illegals. Try picking on states that don't get totally fucked over by the federal government.
Dude, "normally aspirated" is used all over the place. Actually, I've never heard anyone use "naturally aspirated" but whatever. Do a search on the web and I think you will find that "normally aspirated" is quite common.
lol...all smalltalkers are elitist. I have yet to meet one that doesn't think he's god's gift to OOA&D (especially when talking to people using other languages, like Java).
Of course slashdotters have to rip on anything that wasn't written originally for linux or isn't open source. REXX was a great tool in its day. Shit, I would still use it over the vast majority of scripting languages today.
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Seriously, why should we try to inspire women to get into comp sci? If it's interesting to them, they will come to it on their own. If not, that's fine too. We don't get all worked up when the number of men becoming seamstress' drops. Oh no! We need to find a way to inspire men to become seamstress'!
Men and women, IN GENERAL, have different interests AND THAT'S OK. It's also ignorant to think that men and woman do not have different strengths. We do, and that favors certain careers over others.
All that I aside, I wouldn't encourage any woman (or man for that matter) into this fucked up field since it's a dying art in the U.S. 10 years from now there will be hardly any programmers in the U.S. except for ones working on military systems.
Well said, cmholm.
I also find it funny how many of these people actually think this is a free market economy. The term "free market" indicates a free echange of goods based on supply and demand. Too bad it's not that simple. Trade agreements and differences in costs of living dramatically lopside the market one way of the other. Consequently, free markets only exist on paper and not in reality.
Our fine government even rewards companies for firing people here in the U.S. and sending offshore. That must mean our government loves us so.
Degree requirements are simply barriers to entry. It's an easy way to turn people down if they don't have one, however, this only matters when starting a career. If you manage to get around this problem, your experience will be what matters. I've found that a degree is completely meaningless. I've met people with Comp Sci degrees from respected colleges who couldn't figure out how to use a damn pointer.
Like most things in life, you either have "the knack" or you don't. If you don't, no piece of paper will ever make you a good programmer.
The bottom line is that people will not switch to ebooks until their benefits outweigh that of their paper cousins. Paper books are: INEXPENSIVE, can be read in a variety of lighting, can be re-sold, they do not require batteries, they are compatible with speed readers, reading them doesn't cause eye strain.
There isn't much going for ebooks. You pay hundreds of dollars for the reader, you have to worry about battery power, the text isn't as readable as paper, DRM means you cannot sell your copy of a book to someone else and that there may even be a time limit on reading the book. There is a much smaller selection of content available.
Really the only thing going for ebooks is the ability to do searches through the book or a dictionary lookup. This is very cool but not generally necessary when reading a novel, and it certainly doesn't outweigh all the negatives associated with ebooks. I love gadgets but even I wouldn't buy a pos ebook.
It's unfortunate that ebook manufacturers simply don't get it: THEY OFFER NOTHING BUT HIGH COST BOOK READING. They and the publishers can go fuck themselves.
Yeah cuz it would be so much better to sit around watching t.v. all day and playing bridge/golf on the weekends! No fucking way I'm giving that up for video games!
WEP is notoriously easy to hack. There's no need to even turn it off to argue that someone hacked your wireless network and downloaded files.
lol...there are LOTS of things vulnerable to brute force attacks. Security is a joke because most companies simply say they support this and that so they can put a checkmark in their feature list. It's not that they really care to make anything secure. Even in rare cases where an implementation is good, it's even more rare that a good password is used (which is essential regardless of how fancy your encryption) because people can't remember long passwords and software rarely requires users to pick secure passwords.
The seem ripe for an SEC investigation. How many shady share trades can they go through before someone looks at it?
Actually, the information was supposedly "hacked" by a housewife (I shit you not) and mother of four kids. Not only did she find source code for some of their systems, she found voter registration information, recorded votes, etc. If you do some searching on Wired you can find an article about her. Diebold apparently has very weak security into their systems.
"If you could vote from home, you'd put less thought into it. It would be one step closer to a news site poll, except THIS poll would make our final official selections. People wouldn't take it seriously enough. More people would vote, but the quality of those votes would not carry the same weight."
You must be joking. With the people in office today, I don't see how you could make the above statement with a straight face. For the sake of argument though, lets say you're right. Even with our supposed "serious consideration" of the candidates, it hasn't helped us to get better candidates or better elected officials. It's just more PAC money-hungry assholes replacing the previous PAC money-hungry assholes.
Actually, all but the DOS attacks could be solved simply with biometric fingerprinting. Of course, a lot of people would have issues with getting fingerprinted (myself included). Another issue is that most people do not have fingerprint readers, although they are pretty inexpensive these days. Such devices could also be used for online identification for bank logins, purchases, etc. It would solve many many problems.
Yeah...explain this pollworker:
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http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,60563
Actually, India has had major problems with their system. Go back a few days and you can find a /. article on it. India has also had a long history of voting irregularities not covered by that article (search on voter hijacking).
Anyway, nice try.
That animated paper clip guy is a real resource hog. Lets face it, most people wouldn't be able to use Word without his steadfast and relentless help.
lol...I love how people critique you for saying don't work for free. If you disagree with Mr. Moderation Abuser, you need to ask yourself, "Who's the fucked up one here?"
Working for free is stupid. Don't be stupid. Your job going to India has nothing to do with being paid for overtime. Free overtime is nothing but a bunch of brainwashing that's been going on forever now in our industry.
Law suit > lazyness
You don't seriously believe that lazyness will win out over money, do you? If your school believes that they could be liable for big $, you can bet your ass they will drop that system in before you can say "Kazaa."
Sorry, I call bullshit. Prove it.
I'm sure you can find some trite examples that prove your point, but I doubt you could provide examples of real world complex apps where this is true. A well written JIT should almost always have the advantage.
Listen dipshit, people buy Toyota's over American made cars because Toyota's are better cars. If anything, they are more expensive than the American equivalents. I'll even cut you some slack on the Toyota's being made in America bit since it wasn't like that in the beginning when the Japanese manufacturers were still making everything in Japan.
That said, I don't know of any studies that show Indians producing better quality code than their American counterparts. Consequently, it's all about the money. We can't compete with people who work for 1/5th our wages (presuming their code quality/productivity is roughly equivalent to ours). In the auto industry, it was an issue of quality since the prices of the same class of vehicles is usually pretty damn close.
Try coming up with an analogy that makes sense, thanks.
"It makes me wonder, how our state can run without sales tax, and without state income tax. I mean, it's a wonder we survive at all! Now, look at Mass, and California, loads of taxes! Boy, those people sure are better off with all those taxes and government programs! But, I digress."
This is off topic, but I feel obligated to respond since I hear this shit all the time from people who don't know what they're talking about.
In California, they spend well over a billion dollars a year to educate illegal aliens that the federal government can't seem to keep out of the country. That's just the beginning of the spending they have to deal with illegals. Try picking on states that don't get totally fucked over by the federal government.
So, the link you have to "free porn" on the internet is for your brick & mortar business?
Happy trolling...
Dude, "normally aspirated" is used all over the place. Actually, I've never heard anyone use "naturally aspirated" but whatever. Do a search on the web and I think you will find that "normally aspirated" is quite common.
lol...all smalltalkers are elitist. I have yet to meet one that doesn't think he's god's gift to OOA&D (especially when talking to people using other languages, like Java).
True, but when it first came out it was not open source. However, it was free to people buying IBM operating systems.
Of course slashdotters have to rip on anything that wasn't written originally for linux or isn't open source. REXX was a great tool in its day. Shit, I would still use it over the vast majority of scripting languages today.
No, florists are pissed off because people are paying an outrageous sum of money for a fucking plant but the employee is getting paid .01% of that.