Thank you for actually pointing out there is a distinction between "the rebels" and "Al Queada", as a lot of people these days bunch them together. There might be several islamist organizations involved, but not all involved are islamists. The whole revolution started out with people in general being fed up with Assad as a dictator. Since then shit has deteriorated to a smoking heap of rubble. And in the case of the rebels and the islamists vs. Assad, I believe it's more of a case of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
Thing is, in international conflicts, lives are on the line every day. It's just whose lives are endangered that one side takes issue with.
Lives are also daily at stake in the more or less secret drone wars the US are waging around the world today. Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Jemen are some examples. Civilians get killed by US drone pilots fromthe other side of the planet.
I for one am happy the world is starting to get a look into US dealings in foreign affairs. Like hiw Norwegian wx-coos have been recruited by the US embassy in Oslo to spy on Norwegian citizens for the US.
No, the world clearly needs more Mannings' and Snowden's.
A little postscript: This time around it was the US that got busted, I'm hoping for similar leaks in the whole world. We need more transparancy.
Having knowledge is a good thing. Putting it to use to mine your property with pressure cooker bombs is something else entirely.
Also, that whole "I got to be ready to defend myself against the govnement" attitude is detrimental to the ownership you actually _should_ feel towards your own government.
The Vemork factory was placed exactly there because of the optimal conditions for producing hydroelectric power.
It started out fixing nitrogen for fertilizer, but later on was converted to produce heavy water. This is what Hitler needed for the production of a nazi A-bomb.
Both nitrogen fixing and production of heavy water is extremely power consuming.
The factory (and Rjukan city itself) lies so deep within the valley, the Allies considered it near impossible to bomb. They tried, once. The production was considered so important the Allies tried 4 sabotage operations against it.The most famous one, Operation Gunnerside, was made as a film, starring Kirk Douglas: The Heroes of Telemark.
PS: Sorry about the links on top, using a shitty mobile browser.
Probably they could, yes, but would provide low return on investment. And since Rjukan was more or less built to size to man the hydro electric dam that feeds the entire area and earlier also powered Vemork factory, that would seem a bit superfluous. Besides you'd need a lot more mirrors than that.
It doesn't in the long run matter, other than for insurance purposes, whether the gun has been stored foolishly or legally, as long as the end result is the same: Criminals get a hold of stolen weapons. Buying and storing more weapons then won't help solve that problem.
Strict gun laws work for most countries that has implemented them.
You are presuming I am implying he was targeted, I do not. That was just a reaction to your former post..
The weapon is a military assault rifle, literally. He was in the Homeguard at the time. As this is Norway, about 35000 people I believe store assault rifles at home in case of conflicts. The homeguard is somewhat similar to the US National guard.
The reason I mentioned bank robbers is that this exact model has been used in a few robberies in Norway already. Do a search for NOKAS robbery eg., they even made a movie out of it.
My father has been very low key about this weapon. It has never been taken out for other than moving or training exercises, and even then not in a visible fashion.
If I be pressed to guess, I am guessing the thiefs accidentally came across the safe during a regular break in, figured they had time enough, and hacked it out. I believe they even found the tools in the house.
My point is: Even legally owned and properly and legally stored weapons get stolen. The more weapons civilians store at home, the more will get stolen. More weapons on the loose, means they'll get used for more crimes. It's a vicious cycle.
When that is said, I do not trust those smarty fartsy guns neither. Physical access == access. Might not be able to shoot it there and then, but if willing I bet you could fairly easily circumvent such safeties with a rudimentary understanding of firearms and/or mechanics.
My father had the main operating parts of a HK G3 A3 in a safe set in a concrete wall. That didn't help much when the thiefs hacked that entire wall out, stole the safe with those parts, and also the rest of the assault rifle. Luckily, the police found it in the hands of a criminal a while later. Apparently he had been standing in the window aiming out, thereby alerting the neighbors.
Point is: There is no such thing as "a safe gun". It can be stolen, it's that simple.
Criminals for the most part rely on _stolen_ guns for their armament.
There are a lot of countries that has freedom of speech codified into law. Now, what's interesting isn't the laws in themselves, but rather the exceptions from it.
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And here I thought McCarthy was dead, and McCarthyism with him. Seems people like to be paranoid.
These days it ain't the "extreme left" you should worry about son.
It must be horribly painful for you these days then, surfing the intarwebs, reading them bad grammars'stuff.
Atleast they don't lie about surveillance. They monitor you, and say so. Atleast in most cases.
I could tell you a couple of stories a journalist friend of mine working in Russia for many years has experienced, but then they'd have to kill me.
Thank you for actually pointing out there is a distinction between "the rebels" and "Al Queada", as a lot of people these days bunch them together. There might be several islamist organizations involved, but not all involved are islamists. The whole revolution started out with people in general being fed up with Assad as a dictator. Since then shit has deteriorated to a smoking heap of rubble. And in the case of the rebels and the islamists vs. Assad, I believe it's more of a case of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
Dang touch keyboard. So many errors.. Sorry!
"ex-cops" it should read in there somewhere.
Thing is, in international conflicts, lives are on the line every day. It's just whose lives are endangered that one side takes issue with.
Lives are also daily at stake in the more or less secret drone wars the US are waging around the world today. Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Jemen are some examples. Civilians get killed by US drone pilots fromthe other side of the planet.
I for one am happy the world is starting to get a look into US dealings in foreign affairs. Like hiw Norwegian wx-coos have been recruited by the US embassy in Oslo to spy on Norwegian citizens for the US.
No, the world clearly needs more Mannings' and Snowden's.
A little postscript: This time around it was the US that got busted, I'm hoping for similar leaks in the whole world. We need more transparancy.
Having knowledge is a good thing. Putting it to use to mine your property with pressure cooker bombs is something else entirely.
Also, that whole "I got to be ready to defend myself against the govnement" attitude is detrimental to the ownership you actually _should_ feel towards your own government.
That can't be. It wasn't modded funny.
"and if the risks of them having one are outweighed by the benefit of having one"
So true.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-land-without-guns-how-japan-has-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/
In a pinch, and maybe in rural areas, pressure cooker bombs can also be used for self defence.
Speak for yourself, I find this interesting.
On the other hand, if you _really_ would like to see other stories on /., feel free to submit stories yourself. After all, that is how /. works.
Thanks, /.
The other 99% of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vemork
That could be one reason.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059263/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vemork
Some trivia:
The Vemork factory was placed exactly there because of the optimal conditions for producing hydroelectric power.
It started out fixing nitrogen for fertilizer, but later on was converted to produce heavy water. This is what Hitler needed for the production of a nazi A-bomb.
Both nitrogen fixing and production of heavy water is extremely power consuming.
The factory (and Rjukan city itself) lies so deep within the valley, the Allies considered it near impossible to bomb. They tried, once. The production was considered so important the Allies tried 4 sabotage operations against it.The most famous one, Operation Gunnerside, was made as a film, starring Kirk Douglas: The Heroes of Telemark.
PS: Sorry about the links on top, using a shitty mobile browser.
Probably they could, yes, but would provide low return on investment. And since Rjukan was more or less built to size to man the hydro electric dam that feeds the entire area and earlier also powered Vemork factory, that would seem a bit superfluous. Besides you'd need a lot more mirrors than that.
Never mind that, he was right about the most essential detail:
Metric, bitches!
Don't forget to factor in the warmth of the Gulf stream. It is what makes Norway liveable, even though we're so far north.
Do not presume you know me, as I have been an active pistol shooter, and have had a life long interest in guns.
My former comment was meant as a little piece of humour. I see the moderators saw it, shame you didn't.
It doesn't in the long run matter, other than for insurance purposes, whether the gun has been stored foolishly or legally, as long as the end result is the same: Criminals get a hold of stolen weapons. Buying and storing more weapons then won't help solve that problem.
Strict gun laws work for most countries that has implemented them.
You are presuming I am implying he was targeted, I do not. That was just a reaction to your former post..
The weapon is a military assault rifle, literally. He was in the Homeguard at the time. As this is Norway, about 35000 people I believe store assault rifles at home in case of conflicts. The homeguard is somewhat similar to the US National guard.
The reason I mentioned bank robbers is that this exact model has been used in a few robberies in Norway already. Do a search for NOKAS robbery eg., they even made a movie out of it.
My father has been very low key about this weapon. It has never been taken out for other than moving or training exercises, and even then not in a visible fashion.
If I be pressed to guess, I am guessing the thiefs accidentally came across the safe during a regular break in, figured they had time enough, and hacked it out. I believe they even found the tools in the house.
My point is: Even legally owned and properly and legally stored weapons get stolen. The more weapons civilians store at home, the more will get stolen. More weapons on the loose, means they'll get used for more crimes. It's a vicious cycle.
Doesn't much matter whether he was targeted or not, does it? As the end result anyway was that they got the gun, and some other valuables.
This was a military assault rifle, and as such highly wanted amongst the more serious criminals. The bank robbing kind.
I can't speak for the Doctor, but for my own country, here's some facts:
We've got one of the higher numbers of registered guns per capita in the world.
We've got one of the lowest rates of violent crimes in the world.
We have a different gun culture, which is important I believe. We are focused on hunting and sports, not on self defence.
When that is said, I do not trust those smarty fartsy guns neither. Physical access == access. Might not be able to shoot it there and then, but if willing I bet you could fairly easily circumvent such safeties with a rudimentary understanding of firearms and/or mechanics.
My father had the main operating parts of a HK G3 A3 in a safe set in a concrete wall. That didn't help much when the thiefs hacked that entire wall out, stole the safe with those parts, and also the rest of the assault rifle. Luckily, the police found it in the hands of a criminal a while later. Apparently he had been standing in the window aiming out, thereby alerting the neighbors.
Point is: There is no such thing as "a safe gun". It can be stolen, it's that simple.
Criminals for the most part rely on _stolen_ guns for their armament.
Indeed. And in general far more adjectives than is ever needed.
Wikipedia says you are perpetrating a myth.
There are a lot of countries that has freedom of speech codified into law. Now, what's interesting isn't the laws in themselves, but rather the exceptions from it.