these are all running apache 1.3.19 fine, i wonder if they'll still run 2.0.x without crippling themselves. (IPC's and SPARC 1's are 12 mhz, but still serve like 3 million hits a month)
For a long long time, eudora.com ran on a Sparc20. It was upgraded to an Ultra1 somewhere circa Eudora Pro 3.0. The Ultra served bewteen 5 and 8 million requests per month. That was with apache something old, and perl CGI scripts (no mod_perl) *everywhere*. Lots of random Perl, lots of SSI (in fact, I think we parsed every page for SSI). None of that phased it. Ran like a champ.
We had a discussion at work about that server. Until we moved it one time to a new building, it had an uptime of like a year. We wondered how long it would have stayed up (assuming it wouldn't have been rooted -- since ftp, telnet and r-stuff were all enabled and open). I would have betted a long time.
We also remarked that Suns hold their value very well. Old Sparcs make great DNS servers, even nowadays. And the Ultra1 was, IMHO, one of the best small server/workstations Sun ever built. Imagine trying to get use out of a nine year old PC. Heh heh.
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Ars, I've read some of your posts. I am going to guess that you are the type who knows what 'BFT' stands for. You know when rewrites should happen. And you know when junior guys should get the task of reading hairy code. You know from interns. But you know that rewrites are worse than than re-reads like 99.98% of the time, our great benefactor from Washington notwithstanding. You can draw your own conclusions. We're on the same page.
Having said that, I wish I had more gumption to respond. I just left my job today at a dot-com startup. I worked there for 18 months and I was recruited there by mutual friends/co-workers from our former Fortune 500 employer (I worked for them for 4 years, alongside many of my dotcomrades). I'm going to work on Monday for a large university system. Before Monday, I'm getting drunk. In fact: I am drunk right now.
My point is that I wish I had seen your post when I had the wherewithall (and the hand-eye co-ordination) to type out a decent reply. But you caught me at a bad time. I feel like I should buy you a beer and have a chat with you. But I probably shouldn't be drinking right now. What was I saying?
Thanks for the info! And as it turns out, this story got me interested in finding a buyer for the ARQ1. As luck would have it, my mother might need it. She pays like $200 per month for Musak in her store. The ARQ1 would easily replace that. And if she doesn't like it, I'll definitely check the barods.
I have an AudioRequest (the older kind, the ARQ1, that were like very simple PCs, not the newer rackmount kind). It was great. You could stick a CD in and it would rip and encoded (albeit slowly; I think it ripped at 4X). It had cool screensavers and a great UI. I replaced it with an AudioTron. The ARQ1 is sitting in its box in my garage. A $800 doorstop. They don't even list them on ebay. I keep checking like once a week to see if anyone is selling one so maybe I could offload mine too...
The MPST Digital Jukebox reminds me of that unit. Not because it could play MP3s, or didn't play Ogg, or because it ran an embedded OS. No, it reminds of the ARQ1 because I wouldn't buy it for the very same reason: There's no way to get your music off the thing except through an audio cable.
I looked through the MPST web site for this unit. I know it's Linux-based. But how can I log into it? I want to be able to get music off of it as easy as I get music onto it. I have a PC upstairs, and a stereo downstairs. If all my music is on the MPST, then how do I listen from my PC? Hell, how do I back my music up? You can't.
Someone needs to make a simple music appliance like the MPST, but it needs that one crucial feature: you need to be able to get your music off of it as easily as you can get it on to it. You have an smbd running which shares the entire/music slice, or export that music partition via NFS. Or even let me stream from it via HTTP (and then I can write LWP scripts to mirror/spider/play my tunes). But just let me get my music off it somehow. It would also be cool if it had a PCMCIA slot so that you could stick in additional drive space/RAM/802.11b. And a way to get custom software on it would be cool. A bash prompt would be really cool
Oh well. But as long as we're in the land makebelieve, with cool music appliances that do everything everyone wants for only like $100, I want one more thing: Can I have a pony?
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Yeah, I noticed that as well. However, I don't think what he describes in that article is really refactoring, per se. He made -- from what I could tell -- semantic changes. For example, he changed his app so that it spits out xhtml instead of plain vanilla html. That's about as far from a programmatic change on you can get. He admits he didn't make "the kinds of changes that introduce bugs". I assume that means that when he made a change to something code-like, he only did stuff like make all occurrences of a variable name more descriptive.
I still maintain that this is miles away -- idealogically speaking -- from something as drastic as modifying an existing, working perl script(s) to use the new switch statement in Perl (for one example). Now, if he would have rewritten his app in PHP (from ASP) then I would see that as more analogous to "migrating" from Perl 5 to Perl 6. Or maybe PHP3 to PHP4. I'm not sure. Rewriting someone's code (even your own) in the same language is bad enough, IMHO.
My point is, I'm all for cleaning up code so that it's easier to add features or make it easier for others to maintain (although I'm not a fan of it myself; I'd rather have the luxury of being able to do things The Right Way from the get-go). But I'm not a big fan of throwing incalculable amounts of "genetic memory" in the form of old code just to scratch an itch for newness.
But I think we're on the same page...:-)
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Of course, should you rewrite your code to take advantage of the new improvements? Yes.
Respectfully, No. In fact, a resounding "No."
Existing, running, production code is mature code, by and large. It works, it's had revisions, people have added little bug fixes here and there, and at very worst it has passed the "live QA department's" BFT. Many eyeballs have seen it. And it's harder to read code, even well-commented code than it is to make new code (that old "easier to plant a garden than take care of a garden" analogy fits in here, I think). So translating existing stuff into new code will probably introduce errors.
I found a good article about Netscape 6 which touches on why rewriting code is usually a bad idea. The article says it better than I can. I especially liked the comments from Lou Montulli (creator of Lynx) about the rewrite which took place for Netscape 6:
There was good reason for a large change, but rewriting everything was a bit overboard to say the least. I laughed heartily as I got questions from one of my former employees about FTP code the he was rewriting. It had taken 3 years of tuning to get code that could read the 60 different types of FTP servers, those 5000 lines of code may have looked ugly, but at least they worked.
If nothing else, improved block structure parsing will probably locate errors you didn't even know existed.
Of course, there are times a rewrite is needed. But to decide to do rewrite purely because there are new constructs of a new language (which is essentially what Perl 6 is going to be) seems like a real good way to introduce bugs, not find them. Finding bugs is what good design and QA is for...
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Re:just so you non-greek speaking people know...
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exercise for the reader: find the etymology yourself;)
Exegesis comes from Greek, from exegeisthai, "to explain, to interpret," from ex-, "out of" + hegeisthai, "to lead, to guide." Thus an exegesis is, at root, "a leading or guiding out of" a complexity.
And for the record, I think Mr. Conway might want to re-think the use of the term in trying to explain the new features of Perl. His RPN calculator sample code didn't lead me anywhere except into a headache...:-)
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Who let the Java dude in?
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Things like this:
return %var{'$' _ $i} = pop(@stack) but true;
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class Err::BadData is Exception {...}
Make me weep for the future. Although I kind of like the new switch-ish stuff. And the expanded for functionality looks like it could be very handy. But it's messing up my Perl, you know? It's like your teenage kid coming home with blue hair and five earrings (not all of which are in an ear, and only three of which you can readily see). What you thought once was is not what now is.
I know, I know...
It's going to be painful.
But it'll get me cool new stuff.
And so I'll have to learn and use it.
Then once I do:
I won't ever want to go back
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I'll wonder how I ever got along before
And Perl will somehow magically become a "real" programming language that "real" programmers won't laugh at anymore.
OK, I might have been stretching on that last one...
The subject says it all: MS BOB. Huge boongoogle. Although it didn't really die.
Interesting story about BOB. You every wonder where you got that paperclip in Word? BOB. Ever wonder who the project lead for BOB was? Bill Gates' wife was responsible for the paper clip. Really, it's true.
Melinda French Gates was a project lead on MS Bob (you have to remember MicroSoft Bob -- it was that cartoony software that slowed your machine to a crawl and insulted you while balancing your checkbook or reading email). When Bob was revealed to be the complete and utter turkey that it was always destined to be, guess what got some of the "usability and human interface" stuff? Office. Guess who happened to also be, ah, "seeing" The Boss? Melinda. Why wasn't Bob just canned, like any other project that wastes millions and failed completely? You have to wonder if Bill G wasn't getting pillow-talked into something. In fact, MS Bob was the first consumer product Bill Gates released personally. People do the strangest things for love.
Anyway, a lot of what Bob had to offer didn't get canned (as it should have). It got repuposed and wound up in other MS products. Take a look at the screenshot on this page. See that dog in the lower corner? That was Bob's dog Rex. (I wish they had a picture of the dragon named "Java"; I wonder if McNealy every knew about that?) Looks like that paper clip, eh? Bob's ghost is in other stuff, too. MS Agent had a re-incarnation.
Well this is all way OT. But I think the Bob fiasco sheds some light on what goes on at MS. There's really no reason to wonder about the pape clip. I'm sure Melinda will insist on touchy-feely stuff being included in every MS product. I love it when someone thinks for me...
adduser isn't difficult, but finding out that the command is adduser, or that man will provide help isn't very apparent for the super-newbie.
I normally don't get into obvious flame wars like this entire story, but I had to respond to your post.
A couple points:
The super-newbie probably will have a hard time with any OS, be it VMS, Irix, Linux, or Win2K.
The super-newbie probably should never be in a position which requires them to add users. They should themselves stay in user-land. There are many hundreds of thousands of people in that space right now who get on quite nicely.
If they wanted to know basic administration, a simple Google search yeilds nearly half a million hits. It's been my experience with the operators and junior admins at work that a Google search can solve about 75% of all pages to the on-call engineer.
Since they are "newbies", it's easy to understand why something new may be hard. Riding a bike isn't easy if you've never done it before.
I starting using DOS when it was 3.something. I've used nearly every Windows OS after Windows 3.1, but I've not used Win2K much. I've been using Unix-like OSes for ten years now. Explain to me how I would go about adding a user in Win2K? I honestly couldn't tell you where the right buttons to click would be. Yeah, I could fire up Google and/or MS Help, but the fact remains that I'm still not sure how to do it -- even though I may have added users to earlier versions of the same OS in the past. Yet adduser has been in the same place all this time.
My point is this: the difference between something being hard and something merely being an unknown is the same as the difference between stupidity and ignorance.
Interesting Ask Slashdot: I'm going to be implementing a content management system pretty soon. While searching, I cam across Cofax. The info blurb from their web site:
Cofax is a powerful web based Content Management System used to edit and manage the Online Editions of 16+ Newspapers. It was developed as Open Source software. Majority of the code was written by Knight Ridder employees, with additional code contributed by others under an Open Source license.
Cofax looks nice. It uses Java servlets, XML, and can use MySQL, which are all soft requirements. The nicest feature, courtesy of the servlet engine, is that you can plug it into an existing site without modifying URLs.
But has anyone here used it? What's bad about it? What's good? What else is better?
Subject says it all: Why don't people use BlackBox? It's super small (like 19K lines of code), and runs like a champ on older systems. I use it for systems which run a VNC server. It has one theme (called like "Minimal" or some such) which works well for this purpose. BB will also run quite a few KDE apps if you happen to also have KDE stuff laying around.
BlackBox is highly configurable, too. I was bored one day filling in at one of our data centers and decided to switch the Ops workstation to use BlackBox. One thing I wish KDE could do is run a program like CMatrix in the root window...:-)
Seriously, that picture they have with their story is hilarious. A chunk 70 meters in diameter would only make a crater 700 meters in diameter (give or take). So if one assumes that picture is correct, the Earth is about 5km in diameter.:-)
But now that I'm thinking about it a smaller, closer piece like 2002 EM7 might make a good test for NEA destruction systems. It's coming back in 90 years, too...
The M1 had a place where you put the metal clip in the top of the rifle and pushed down with your thumb on the ammunition. You then removed the thin piece of metal (the clip).
Actually, that's not entirely true. You load some weapons this way (the SKS comes to mind, although there are plenty of others, including some removeable magazine-fed weapons, such as the M14), but the clip stayed in the M1. The M1 was loaded by putting all eight rounds into a clip and inserting the entire assembly into the receiver. The clip stayed in the receiver until the last round was fired, at which point it would eject upward and outward with a loud "sproing" noise. One could manually unload a partially spent clip, but simply firing all eight rounds and inserting a fresh clip was common from what I hear. The M1s I've handled have been nice to shoot, but loading left something to be desired. It's very easy to injure one's thumb/forefingers when loading an M1. I would also not wanted to carry one for any length of time. It's a heavy rifle.
BTW, I really liked your comment. If I hadn't used all my moderation points yeesterday (and hadn't been posting in this thread) I would have definitely modded up...
Most of the NG troops don't even have a clip in the rifle.
Unless the NG guys are carrying M1 Garands, they don't have any clips on their person at all. They might have a magazine or two if they are shouldering an Armalite or a Colt. Sorry to nitpick, but calling a mag a clip is like fingernails on the blackboard of my mind.
BTW, the "guards" I've seen at San Diego, Reno, Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Portland airports were all similarly unarmed. A smart group of terrorists would storm the airport with baseball bats, pepper spray and M16 and 92F/1911A1 magazines...
http://www.motorola008.com/008.html
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Supports Email, POP, Jabber, drawings, notepad, alarm clock, SMS, you know, all the standard PIM stuff and is an intuitive and useful phone into the bargain. A fraction on the large size, but they've got a smaller one on the way.
Hell, for all I know it might drive me home, get me up in the morning, make me coffee and wash my underpants for me. But I'll never know. Because Motorola's butthead "web designers" made a concious decision to exclude me from their web site. The link above simply shows me a blank white page (not even header/footer/left sidebar/etc navigation links!) which simply says:
You need the latest version of Macromedia Flash Player to view this site. Click here to download.
I'm in the market for a PIM which does what you describe. But I'm not going to support a company that doesn't bother to support me. I don't want Flash, and I refuse to download/install something just to get product specs, see a picture, whatever. So I'll never get to buy a Motorola 008.
Oh, yeah... nobody carries a gun in California. That's why Los Angeles is so peaceful and friendly.
But nobody *thinks* that everyone else is armed. If everyone felt like everyone else was carrying a concealed weapon, you'd have a lot less uppitiness. Robert Heinlein was right: An armed society is a polite society.
And like I said, if a concealed carry law is what it takes for people to leave me alone, then it's worth it.
Right on, man -- well said. Let's just hope that the bad guys think the same thing this guy did. If that kid lived here in California, there's no telling how many times he be harassed by goodniks like the writer. I wish I lived in a concealed carry state. It makes everyone just a little more polite (which is to say it makes people leave other people the hell alone: the epitome of polite). I'd love to have people think I'm packing if that's what it takes for everyone to leave me the hell alone.
I have a Qualcomm Q-phone. I seriously doubt I'll be getting anything but dropped calls on it. Recently switched to Qualcomm Thinphone for walking around tasks, though. That won't get any SMS/WAP/HDML crud on it either.
I say don't buy a new phone. Both of mine work fine. 'Course I'm the sort that hates to be on the phone anyway, so having a phone around isn't a priority. After all, there are only a very small number of people who must be contacted any time, any place. I'm certainly not in that set. And I'm definitely not in that set when I'm at the movies. Maybe nobody else should be too...
Our government doesn't seem to give two sh*ts about monopolistic tech corporations.
Go ahead and say it: Our government doesn't give two goddam squirty shits about anything but spreading the legs of the Lady of Justice for the highest fucking bidder.
And no, I'm not sorry for the swearing. Let's not be afraid to say what we mean. We have to quit couching our words in trivial obfuscations so we don't offend the perpetually victimized. It won't be long before the rearward penetration reaches our mouths and we are all forced to speak up. But by then it will be too late. Oh well. We're all doomed to whatever fate the AOL/TW's of the world wish for us anyway.
I was just going to moderate the parent comment up, but decided to speak my peace instead. Sometimes I hate America. Its dim-bulb of a leader doesn't help.
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For a long long time, eudora.com ran on a Sparc20. It was upgraded to an Ultra1 somewhere circa Eudora Pro 3.0. The Ultra served bewteen 5 and 8 million requests per month. That was with apache something old, and perl CGI scripts (no mod_perl) *everywhere*. Lots of random Perl, lots of SSI (in fact, I think we parsed every page for SSI). None of that phased it. Ran like a champ.
We had a discussion at work about that server. Until we moved it one time to a new building, it had an uptime of like a year. We wondered how long it would have stayed up (assuming it wouldn't have been rooted -- since ftp, telnet and r-stuff were all enabled and open). I would have betted a long time.
We also remarked that Suns hold their value very well. Old Sparcs make great DNS servers, even nowadays. And the Ultra1 was, IMHO, one of the best small server/workstations Sun ever built. Imagine trying to get use out of a nine year old PC. Heh heh.
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Having said that, I wish I had more gumption to respond. I just left my job today at a dot-com startup. I worked there for 18 months and I was recruited there by mutual friends/co-workers from our former Fortune 500 employer (I worked for them for 4 years, alongside many of my dotcomrades). I'm going to work on Monday for a large university system. Before Monday, I'm getting drunk. In fact: I am drunk right now.
My point is that I wish I had seen your post when I had the wherewithall (and the hand-eye co-ordination) to type out a decent reply. But you caught me at a bad time. I feel like I should buy you a beer and have a chat with you. But I probably shouldn't be drinking right now. What was I saying?
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The MPST Digital Jukebox reminds me of that unit. Not because it could play MP3s, or didn't play Ogg, or because it ran an embedded OS. No, it reminds of the ARQ1 because I wouldn't buy it for the very same reason: There's no way to get your music off the thing except through an audio cable. I looked through the MPST web site for this unit. I know it's Linux-based. But how can I log into it? I want to be able to get music off of it as easy as I get music onto it. I have a PC upstairs, and a stereo downstairs. If all my music is on the MPST, then how do I listen from my PC? Hell, how do I back my music up? You can't.
Someone needs to make a simple music appliance like the MPST, but it needs that one crucial feature: you need to be able to get your music off of it as easily as you can get it on to it. You have an smbd running which shares the entire /music slice, or export that music partition via NFS. Or even let me stream from it via HTTP (and then I can write LWP scripts to mirror/spider/play my tunes). But just let me get my music off it somehow. It would also be cool if it had a PCMCIA slot so that you could stick in additional drive space/RAM/802.11b. And a way to get custom software on it would be cool. A bash prompt would be really cool
Oh well. But as long as we're in the land makebelieve, with cool music appliances that do everything everyone wants for only like $100, I want one more thing: Can I have a pony?
-B
I still maintain that this is miles away -- idealogically speaking -- from something as drastic as modifying an existing, working perl script(s) to use the new switch statement in Perl (for one example). Now, if he would have rewritten his app in PHP (from ASP) then I would see that as more analogous to "migrating" from Perl 5 to Perl 6. Or maybe PHP3 to PHP4. I'm not sure. Rewriting someone's code (even your own) in the same language is bad enough, IMHO.
My point is, I'm all for cleaning up code so that it's easier to add features or make it easier for others to maintain (although I'm not a fan of it myself; I'd rather have the luxury of being able to do things The Right Way from the get-go). But I'm not a big fan of throwing incalculable amounts of "genetic memory" in the form of old code just to scratch an itch for newness.
But I think we're on the same page... :-)
-B
Respectfully, No. In fact, a resounding "No."
Existing, running, production code is mature code, by and large. It works, it's had revisions, people have added little bug fixes here and there, and at very worst it has passed the "live QA department's" BFT. Many eyeballs have seen it. And it's harder to read code, even well-commented code than it is to make new code (that old "easier to plant a garden than take care of a garden" analogy fits in here, I think). So translating existing stuff into new code will probably introduce errors.
I found a good article about Netscape 6 which touches on why rewriting code is usually a bad idea. The article says it better than I can. I especially liked the comments from Lou Montulli (creator of Lynx) about the rewrite which took place for Netscape 6:
If nothing else, improved block structure parsing will probably locate errors you didn't even know existed.Of course, there are times a rewrite is needed. But to decide to do rewrite purely because there are new constructs of a new language (which is essentially what Perl 6 is going to be) seems like a real good way to introduce bugs, not find them. Finding bugs is what good design and QA is for...
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From dictionary.com:
And for the record, I think Mr. Conway might want to re-think the use of the term in trying to explain the new features of Perl. His RPN calculator sample code didn't lead me anywhere except into a headache...-B
return %var{'$' _ $i} = pop(@stack) but true;
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class Err::BadData is Exception {...}
Make me weep for the future. Although I kind of like the new switch-ish stuff. And the expanded for functionality looks like it could be very handy. But it's messing up my Perl, you know? It's like your teenage kid coming home with blue hair and five earrings (not all of which are in an ear, and only three of which you can readily see). What you thought once was is not what now is.
I know, I know...
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OK, I might have been stretching on that last one...
-B
Interesting story about BOB. You every wonder where you got that paperclip in Word? BOB. Ever wonder who the project lead for BOB was? Bill Gates' wife was responsible for the paper clip. Really, it's true.
Melinda French Gates was a project lead on MS Bob (you have to remember MicroSoft Bob -- it was that cartoony software that slowed your machine to a crawl and insulted you while balancing your checkbook or reading email). When Bob was revealed to be the complete and utter turkey that it was always destined to be, guess what got some of the "usability and human interface" stuff? Office. Guess who happened to also be, ah, "seeing" The Boss? Melinda. Why wasn't Bob just canned, like any other project that wastes millions and failed completely? You have to wonder if Bill G wasn't getting pillow-talked into something. In fact, MS Bob was the first consumer product Bill Gates released personally. People do the strangest things for love.
Anyway, a lot of what Bob had to offer didn't get canned (as it should have). It got repuposed and wound up in other MS products. Take a look at the screenshot on this page. See that dog in the lower corner? That was Bob's dog Rex. (I wish they had a picture of the dragon named "Java"; I wonder if McNealy every knew about that?) Looks like that paper clip, eh? Bob's ghost is in other stuff, too. MS Agent had a re-incarnation.
Well this is all way OT. But I think the Bob fiasco sheds some light on what goes on at MS. There's really no reason to wonder about the pape clip. I'm sure Melinda will insist on touchy-feely stuff being included in every MS product. I love it when someone thinks for me...
-B
I normally don't get into obvious flame wars like this entire story, but I had to respond to your post. A couple points:
I starting using DOS when it was 3.something. I've used nearly every Windows OS after Windows 3.1, but I've not used Win2K much. I've been using Unix-like OSes for ten years now. Explain to me how I would go about adding a user in Win2K? I honestly couldn't tell you where the right buttons to click would be. Yeah, I could fire up Google and/or MS Help, but the fact remains that I'm still not sure how to do it -- even though I may have added users to earlier versions of the same OS in the past. Yet adduser has been in the same place all this time.
My point is this: the difference between something being hard and something merely being an unknown is the same as the difference between stupidity and ignorance.
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But has anyone here used it? What's bad about it? What's good? What else is better?
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And I would tell you that one begets the other.
When arguing, try to stay on the same subject.
When commenting, try to think three dimensionally.
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I've not fiddled with it very much, but cmatrix doesn't want to run. XEarth will, though. Which is better anyway.
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BlackBox is highly configurable, too. I was bored one day filling in at one of our data centers and decided to switch the Ops workstation to use BlackBox. One thing I wish KDE could do is run a program like CMatrix in the root window... :-)
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Really, it is? I've looked all over my wife's XP machine, and I can't find sources to anything...
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Seriously, that picture they have with their story is hilarious. A chunk 70 meters in diameter would only make a crater 700 meters in diameter (give or take). So if one assumes that picture is correct, the Earth is about 5km in diameter. :-)
But now that I'm thinking about it a smaller, closer piece like 2002 EM7 might make a good test for NEA destruction systems. It's coming back in 90 years, too...
-B
Actually, that's not entirely true. You load some weapons this way (the SKS comes to mind, although there are plenty of others, including some removeable magazine-fed weapons, such as the M14), but the clip stayed in the M1. The M1 was loaded by putting all eight rounds into a clip and inserting the entire assembly into the receiver. The clip stayed in the receiver until the last round was fired, at which point it would eject upward and outward with a loud "sproing" noise. One could manually unload a partially spent clip, but simply firing all eight rounds and inserting a fresh clip was common from what I hear. The M1s I've handled have been nice to shoot, but loading left something to be desired. It's very easy to injure one's thumb/forefingers when loading an M1. I would also not wanted to carry one for any length of time. It's a heavy rifle.
A Google search lead me to a page with a picture of the parts in question.
BTW, I really liked your comment. If I hadn't used all my moderation points yeesterday (and hadn't been posting in this thread) I would have definitely modded up...
-B
Unless the NG guys are carrying M1 Garands, they don't have any clips on their person at all. They might have a magazine or two if they are shouldering an Armalite or a Colt. Sorry to nitpick, but calling a mag a clip is like fingernails on the blackboard of my mind.
BTW, the "guards" I've seen at San Diego, Reno, Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Portland airports were all similarly unarmed. A smart group of terrorists would storm the airport with baseball bats, pepper spray and M16 and 92F/1911A1 magazines...
-B
Supports Email, POP, Jabber, drawings, notepad, alarm clock, SMS, you know, all the standard PIM stuff and is an intuitive and useful phone into the bargain. A fraction on the large size, but they've got a smaller one on the way.
Hell, for all I know it might drive me home, get me up in the morning, make me coffee and wash my underpants for me. But I'll never know. Because Motorola's butthead "web designers" made a concious decision to exclude me from their web site. The link above simply shows me a blank white page (not even header/footer/left sidebar/etc navigation links!) which simply says:
I'm in the market for a PIM which does what you describe. But I'm not going to support a company that doesn't bother to support me. I don't want Flash, and I refuse to download/install something just to get product specs, see a picture, whatever. So I'll never get to buy a Motorola 008.Sorry for the rant...
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But nobody *thinks* that everyone else is armed. If everyone felt like everyone else was carrying a concealed weapon, you'd have a lot less uppitiness. Robert Heinlein was right: An armed society is a polite society.
And like I said, if a concealed carry law is what it takes for people to leave me alone, then it's worth it.
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I say don't buy a new phone. Both of mine work fine. 'Course I'm the sort that hates to be on the phone anyway, so having a phone around isn't a priority. After all, there are only a very small number of people who must be contacted any time, any place. I'm certainly not in that set. And I'm definitely not in that set when I'm at the movies. Maybe nobody else should be too...
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Go ahead and say it: Our government doesn't give two goddam squirty shits about anything but spreading the legs of the Lady of Justice for the highest fucking bidder.
And no, I'm not sorry for the swearing. Let's not be afraid to say what we mean. We have to quit couching our words in trivial obfuscations so we don't offend the perpetually victimized. It won't be long before the rearward penetration reaches our mouths and we are all forced to speak up. But by then it will be too late. Oh well. We're all doomed to whatever fate the AOL/TW's of the world wish for us anyway.
I was just going to moderate the parent comment up, but decided to speak my peace instead. Sometimes I hate America. Its dim-bulb of a leader doesn't help.
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But they only need 17 people. One sort of begets the other, I think...
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