Here's what this is about: OS bigots in the Linux community. We need solidarity, not bickering. The petty "Oh... you use KDE, what a putz... you have AOL too?" should stop. Whatever helps Linux helps us all. Choice is essential.
The fact of the matter is that KDE is a pretty decent desktop. Yeah, if you're running a server you probably don't need KDE (or GNOME, for that matter). But for workstations, it's not that bad. And Linux needs to move into the workstation arena before it can really take off. Doing that means having a nice GUI.
KDE is easily installed, usable, fairly stable, mostly customizable, has plenty of apps that take advantage of it's semi-unique features, and looks pretty good. And it beats the shit out of Windows. KDE can be used to win the hearts and minds aof Windows/Mac users because of these attributes.
I'm setting up a gateway machine for my mother in about three months, and I convinced her that Linux was the best choice, over much protestation about how Unix is "...all command line stuff, and I gave that up with DOS." She's very computer literate, but not a Unix user, and had this notion in her head that Linux was, at best, curses-based. So I showed her KDE, and she loved it. I also showed her fvwm and WindowMaker (just to let her know that she did, in fact, have a choice and that this was what Linux was all about) and she was not terribly impressed.
Now another business is going to have Linux as an integral part of it's success. And it's primarily because of KDE (I showed her some uptime figures for Linux vs. NT, and that helped as well...). So how can KDE be bad? In this case at least, KDE has converted one more soul. When she sees that her gateway machine never goes down, and the WinNT clients always have to be rebooted, she'll probably deploy Linux more widely.
So here we are, slowly moving away from the MS monopoly, and then we find OS bigots among us even still? And I thought we were all going to be one big happy family...
Jesus, is it just because people need to point fingers and denigrate others in order to feel superior that we have crap like this happening?
So they're using Red Hat. Big friggin' deal! You want they should use NT? Or MacOS? Maybe they should have got themselves a Sun Enterprise 10000. Would that make you feel better? Yeah, that would be better: skip Linux all together, because they would get shit no matter what distribution they picked. And nobody could complain about a big Sun. That probably would have been the wise choice.
What we need here is a little solidarity. They picked Linux, and that's a Good Thing(TM). All this name calling and devisiveness can only hurt the Linux movement.
Lighten up.
-B
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Not to nit-pick, but the belt on the light saber page says that it can accomodate waists from 30"-40".
Ummm... That has got to be either too much or not enough.
(At least if my Con days back in the ealy 80's is any indiciation...)
There it is. Right there. I don't rent Winnie-the-Pooh movies, I'm a grown man, I don't need this cutesey-wootsey crapola. --
First off, if you can't have a sense of humor about what you do, it probably isn't worth doing. `chomp' is one of the most memorable commands in Perl 5, for that very reason. At least I seem to remember it well.
But you would rather have something like:
s/(.*)\n$/$1/;
That's much easier to remember. If only all Perl syntax was that clear.
Which brings me to one reason that I like Perl a great deal: "There's more than one way to do it."
Yeah, AMD might suck, but they're hella cheap and you get pretty decent performance. And using an AMD CPU also gives me a nice warm fuzzy: my K6-2/333 at home uses no Intel hardware and the hard drive contains zero MS software.
I run Linux with AMD, Via, Samsung, S3, and 3Dfx chips. There may be an Intel something lurking somewhere, but it's in the minority.
I was a bit of work trying to pull that off, but if you look around, you can find a decent setup (esp. for home use) that avoids both monopolies. If any CPU can be said to "go with Linux", it's an AMD, and my system runs very well. And cost me very little money.
It's very refreshing being able to choose what I want to run. At least we can thank MS and Intel for that.
I'd love to get drawn for Teletubby. Imagine the feeling of being the first person on your block to bag a Teletubby. That's gotta be good eating on a Teletubby...
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The fact of the matter is that KDE is a pretty decent desktop. Yeah, if you're running a server you probably don't need KDE (or GNOME, for that matter). But for workstations, it's not that bad. And Linux needs to move into the workstation arena before it can really take off. Doing that means having a nice GUI.
KDE is easily installed, usable, fairly stable, mostly customizable, has plenty of apps that take advantage of it's semi-unique features, and looks pretty good. And it beats the shit out of Windows. KDE can be used to win the hearts and minds aof Windows/Mac users because of these attributes.
I'm setting up a gateway machine for my mother in about three months, and I convinced her that Linux was the best choice, over much protestation about how Unix is "...all command line stuff, and I gave that up with DOS." She's very computer literate, but not a Unix user, and had this notion in her head that Linux was, at best, curses-based. So I showed her KDE, and she loved it. I also showed her fvwm and WindowMaker (just to let her know that she did, in fact, have a choice and that this was what Linux was all about) and she was not terribly impressed.
Now another business is going to have Linux as an integral part of it's success. And it's primarily because of KDE (I showed her some uptime figures for Linux vs. NT, and that helped as well...). So how can KDE be bad? In this case at least, KDE has converted one more soul. When she sees that her gateway machine never goes down, and the WinNT clients always have to be rebooted, she'll probably deploy Linux more widely.
And that's a Good Thing. It's what we need.
-B
I know it's not a mirror, per se, but if anyone is looking for the glibc 2.1 RPMs you can get them here:
http://www.27.org/linux/redhat/glibc2.1/
-B
I see RedHat's "portal" strategy as evidence that RedHat is outclassed - it has an outdated distro, SuSe and even Debian are much better.
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Until you start citing reasons why Red Hat isn't as good as SuSe or Debian, I'll continue thinking that you are an idiot.
-B
So here we are, slowly moving away from the MS monopoly, and then we find OS bigots among us even still? And I thought we were all going to be one big happy family...
Jesus, is it just because people need to point fingers and denigrate others in order to feel superior that we have crap like this happening?
So they're using Red Hat. Big friggin' deal! You want they should use NT? Or MacOS? Maybe they should have got themselves a Sun Enterprise 10000. Would that make you feel better? Yeah, that would be better: skip Linux all together, because they would get shit no matter what distribution they picked. And nobody could complain about a big Sun. That probably would have been the wise choice.
What we need here is a little solidarity. They picked Linux, and that's a Good Thing(TM). All this name calling and devisiveness can only hurt the Linux movement.
Lighten up.
-B
Ummm... That has got to be either too much or not enough.
(At least if my Con days back in the ealy 80's is any indiciation...)
-B
There it is. Right there. I don't rent Winnie-the-Pooh movies, I'm a grown man, I don't need this cutesey-wootsey crapola.
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First off, if you can't have a sense of humor about what you do, it probably isn't worth doing. `chomp' is one of the most memorable commands in Perl 5, for that very reason. At least I seem to remember it well.
But you would rather have something like:
s/(.*)\n$/$1/;
That's much easier to remember. If only all Perl syntax was that clear.
Which brings me to one reason that I like Perl a great deal: "There's more than one way to do it."
-B
What happens when I plug it into my board with 1MB L2? Does that become L3, additional L2, or is it just dropped?
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Your existing L2 cache will become L3 cache.
-Wee
I run Linux with AMD, Via, Samsung, S3, and 3Dfx chips. There may be an Intel something lurking somewhere, but it's in the minority.
I was a bit of work trying to pull that off, but if you look around, you can find a decent setup (esp. for home use) that avoids both monopolies. If any CPU can be said to "go with Linux", it's an AMD, and my system runs very well. And cost me very little money.
It's very refreshing being able to choose what I want to run. At least we can thank MS and Intel for that.
-B
I'd love to get drawn for Teletubby. Imagine the feeling of being the first person on your block to bag a Teletubby. That's gotta be good eating on a Teletubby...
-B