No, increase the budget instead: give perks to employees that deny patents like this.
Sorry, but someones already patented that...
Can we patent this type of reply on Slashdot so that we don't get the inevitable trite "that's been patented" responses? I mean heck... at try and be clever and original if you're going to pull out that crusty relic of a response.
But that hasn't been patented though. Rewarding an employee has been patented though for having/learning to do their job properly. Patent application number: 20100023384.
>complying with procurement regulations can be insanely expensive.
Aren't costs from regulations created by the government?
Yes and no. Different regulations are created by different branches of the government. While one branch may say 'such-n-such must be done in xyz way', it is done based on the concepts and idea/l's of that branch with often little to no regard of how it will effect the other government branches. This of course can cause costs of other branches to just jump much higher even though they had nothing to do with it.
I'm not sure what this has to do with my rights online. This pertains to an internal governmental review of *its own* websites, not other people's.
Well in one way this has to do with your rights online is when a government removes information (web sites) from the public, it makes the public a little less informed of what their government is doing and what services it provides the people. The article isn't very clear of which sites are going to be removed and the more that are removed with information that might be useful/vital to the public, the more this effects your rights online. While the cost might not be worth the added expense of the hosting, some of these sites should possibly be merged and in the end to save the labor of merging the sites the government might cut corners and just cut the information out all together. A less informed public is a public with less rights and say in it's government.
Yes, but Guild Wars has a one time fee and when you buy the software and no monthly fee, so to keep the characters and give the 'upgrades/birthday gifts' during those 3 years of inactivity is pretty impressive since Arena.net doesn't make any more money from this since they were already paid.
I'm guessing your talking about the urban myth that glass can flow and melt? Sorry, but glass doesn't melt, it would hold it's form as long as it isn't shattered.
A better comparison would be cavemen doing it first with cave paintings since many of those are still around and do tell a story at times. And those are much older and better preserved then papyrus.
I don't know why I kept wasting the time to look up cites in the past when his first reaction was mudslinging and misinformation, guest I felt that it might be worth trying. Ehh... live and learn and treat others like they treated me. Might remember that for your next post, just read the first few words and assume the worst for you too... since obviously thinking that maybe there is more here then a first impression implies is possible...
Hopefully, this is a sign that our policies are not dictated by the "Think of the children" crowd.
To be honest, this could easily be made to be pro 'think of the children'. If suddenly it is designed that porn sites are to have the.xxx domain name then you can easily put on a very basic (even just OS Parental Controls) to just refuse to load.xxx domains. Its 'thinking of the children' as suddenly porn sites are easily identifiable and blockable since they all (in theory) be.xxx domains (like how most governments sites are expected to be.gov)
While most of the post I can accept as it is at least well thought it, it's when you claim things like "iPhone still outsells Android, all Android products, by a huge margin" that make me question your answer. As is mentioned today, from an article as far back as May, Android is outselling iPhones. It doesn't take a huge report to point it out that it's a mistake notion. But a simple Google search can at least make sure to yourself that what you said might be mistaken. (The links second choice would be a good, as the others are just guesswork.)
Doubtful, since thats all I asked for. All I asked for is a citation, even a single one. Thats all I asked for to accept what he said as fact. A good citation shows honesty and truth and will make me listen, this is how others have shown where I was wrong and I've accepted I was wrong, I've even mentioned it in return I was wrong. But just saying whatever and having nothing to back it up, even after being called on it and having a solid citation to show he was wrong, is worthless and not an answer.
I asked for you to give a legit citation, something you can't do because you know you've made up your posts, all of your posts.
This is just a load of shit.
Truth is never a load of shit, only someone who has something to hide would declare truth to be shit.
I didn't respond because I didn't read your post, and I don't intend to go back and do so. The thing is, even though this is the internet and all, you still have to treat people with respect if you want to receive respect in return.
I've treated you with respect many times. I've given you the benefit of the doubt many of times. For these acts of kindness I've had you insult me, lie to me and declare my answers meant nothing. Please try listening to yourself. I've been nice, many times. I'm only going to be nice so many times though. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but as the saying goes 'treat others as you wish to be treated'
You'll be hard pressed to cite an example of me totally shitting all over someone who's being respectful.
Myself would be my first example where when I caught your mistaken information in the past and pointed it out to you, you declared that pointing out your being wrong only made me seem like an idiot and a child to you somehow. You never were able to point out why in the times we've done this.
Not a single thing I've posted is "made up". Some of it is opinion, of course. But any facts are things I know to be true. I might be wrong, but I don't do what you're suggesting.
Oh? Your facts are true? Even though I've had the facts with sources to show you that you were wrong? You continue you go on, refusing to show facts, expecting others to disprove you as showing proof/facts about your comments is somehow beyond your needs.
Your claiming that I have a differing opinion. Showing facts that counter your say-so isn't a differing opinion. Its calling your bluff. And again, I'm calling your bluff. Prove me wrong.
I tell you what. Give me a specific thing you want me to either back up or refute or whatever. Do it without being an ass, and I'll respond (the only exceptions, aside from being an ass, is if the post is from long ago, or there are tons of replies and going through them is a hassle, it would be nice if slashdot had some way of marking replies as viewed or not to be easily sorted).
But, anyway, if you want to have a civil discussion, feel free to completely ignore all the stuff about how I'm not a troll or am a troll, or how you're being an ass or not an ass, etc. Silence will not count against you. Just throw some questions or whatever you think is an honest critique, and see how it goes.
And I debated whether to add this last part here or not, but I will because I think it may help out. Sometimes, hell, a *lot* of times, I'll erase part of a post where I insult someone. Not necessarily because I don't think they deserve it, or that they aren't guilty of being a complete idiot or whatever, but because it just does no good. You clearly think I'm a troll, or being an ass or an idiot or whatever. But really, do you think insulting me is going to get me to respond in a good way? How would it make you respond?
The first few times, I bit my tongue and ignored the comments of insult you gave me while still stating facts to disprove your comments that you were never able to back up. I really don't like to have to insult people but as I've mentioned, I can only be insulted so many times before I start getting annoyed.
As for deleting comments, I do that when I try to counter what someone says. Thats why I look up sources to show proof, because I've noticed sometimes I'm wrong and I'm not going to mention whatever I feel like because thats what I want to feel. Facts are real, opinion and memory are not always correct. Everyone makes mistakes and sometimes b
Then please don't bother responding in defense of the OP.
If you had read my post, you'd have noticed it wasn't I was 'afraid' of the truth. Far from it in fact. I called him on his comments, had the facts to back up my statements, and wanted him to try to be able to at least try to defend himself. And he didn't, as is his normal reaction.
If you wish to make a response to defend him, then maybe you could show me some facts to prove him right even? Maybe you could show a citation that could back up his claims and not just random say-so? I've called his bluffs, laid out the facts and I don't feel its that much to ask for some facts out of him to back up what he's saying.
You were so quick to try to label the first person a troll, yet panic when I called you one. Pot meet kettle.
And yes, I've read your posts, and I know you read mine. Your post showed me that. I asked for you to give a legit citation, something you can't do because you know you've made up your posts, all of your posts. I went through you posts. You spout out whatever seems to come to your mind, fully expecting everyone to accept what you say is god-honest truth. Even when its been shown you were wrong. And even when you've been shown that your wrong, you spout more nonsense still unable to give a single legit citation because your hoping to cover lies with more lies. Myself and others here have tried to have mature conversions with you but you always go back to the same old problems expecting everyone to take your word as gold because you said it. All I've asked you for is some legit citations, not much. And still, you refuse to.
Your claiming that I have a differing opinion. Showing facts that counter your say-so isn't a differing opinion. Its calling your bluff. And again, I'm calling your bluff. Prove me wrong.
The parts dealing with going to the moon did. Though not all of it was cut and some parts did get more money. Seems like the joke went over a few peoples heads (seeing how it was marked down...)
So instead of paying NASA scientist to do the work of pouring over images looking for possible signs of... well anything on Mars, they are just planning on turning the jobs in 7th graders school 'projects'. I don't know which one is worse. The fact that the budget cuts are this bad, or the fact that all those years of post-HS schooling and student loans these scientist did for all their education is mentally around the level of a 7th's grader in the eyes of the government.
Control. Fanboys may defend Apple's control for various reasons, mostly using cognitive dissonance
FYI, when you get called a troll, it's for bullshit like this.
You feel that? Thats called irony. When the biggest Mac troll on slashdot tries to call someone a troll for bullshit. Now the next time you want to call someone a troll you need to take a good, long look in the mirror first.
They want to stop the hackintosh, they want to prevent more clones and they want to control what the end users experiences.
As for "controlling what the end user experiences". That's overstating things quite much. They don't want to control what the user experiences, with the fundamental exception that they want to exclude a set of very rational things. Primarily, buggy software, spyware, and ports which fail to make good use of the platform. They don't want control over my experience other than to help see to it that I don't have to deal with such crap. And when us "fanboys" say (as you said in your post) "it's for your own good and other such excuses", what we're saying is that "it makes the product better". That's why we willingly choose Apple products, so we don't have to deal with a bunch of crap. It's also a huge part of why Apple products do so well even when surrounded by competition whose primary advantage is less "control".
As for Mac and control, it's always been about control. Control over hardware and software. This is why its products like the iPod/iTouch/iPhone are encrypted, for control. People found they could start to alter the software on these devices like either use different software to load music on to these devices (like Amarok could before they encrypted the hardware) or even install their own firmware on the devices these people paid for and are normally under the idea (like anything else they buy) that they can do with it as they can. Apple saw that people were doing what they wanted with something they bought (that just happened to have the Apple logo) and they shit a brick. Now all of these devices are encrypted on the hardware level. It wasn't 'for your protection' as it was only being used by a very small minority.
And as for your claim that by being locked down it 'makes a product better', how? iPhones still crash (done it myself as have my friends), it's lock down naturehasn't help it's security, and all of it's 'attempts to make it a better product' by judging if an app should be allow has resulted in either plain old censorship to all out privacy issues from something 'approved'. This hasn't been able to make 'a better product' even after 3 years, and the issues are just growing. Restrictions like this have been tried before by different peoples of power through out history and every time its shown to be a bad thing for the same reason: when someone has power they are more then interested in using/abusing it. And no, Steve Job's isn't going to be the first person in the entire history of humanity to not succumb to the temptation.
This wont happen overnight, not even the RDF turned to eleven could pull that one off. It will happen over time in baby steps and be hailed by the fanboys.
It (although not the "it" you've been going on about) will be hailed because it will make our lives better. The "it" won't be locking down the Mac, or replacing Mac OS X with iOS, but "it" will be things like abstracting the filesystem
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No, increase the budget instead: give perks to employees that deny patents like this.
Sorry, but someones already patented that...
Can we patent this type of reply on Slashdot so that we don't get the inevitable trite "that's been patented" responses? I mean heck... at try and be clever and original if you're going to pull out that crusty relic of a response.
But that hasn't been patented though. Rewarding an employee has been patented though for having/learning to do their job properly. Patent application number: 20100023384.
No, increase the budget instead: give perks to employees that deny patents like this.
Sorry, but someones already patented that...
>complying with procurement regulations can be insanely expensive.
Aren't costs from regulations created by the government?
Yes and no. Different regulations are created by different branches of the government. While one branch may say 'such-n-such must be done in xyz way', it is done based on the concepts and idea/l's of that branch with often little to no regard of how it will effect the other government branches. This of course can cause costs of other branches to just jump much higher even though they had nothing to do with it.
I'm not sure what this has to do with my rights online. This pertains to an internal governmental review of *its own* websites, not other people's.
Well in one way this has to do with your rights online is when a government removes information (web sites) from the public, it makes the public a little less informed of what their government is doing and what services it provides the people. The article isn't very clear of which sites are going to be removed and the more that are removed with information that might be useful/vital to the public, the more this effects your rights online. While the cost might not be worth the added expense of the hosting, some of these sites should possibly be merged and in the end to save the labor of merging the sites the government might cut corners and just cut the information out all together. A less informed public is a public with less rights and say in it's government.
Yes, but Guild Wars has a one time fee and when you buy the software and no monthly fee, so to keep the characters and give the 'upgrades/birthday gifts' during those 3 years of inactivity is pretty impressive since Arena.net doesn't make any more money from this since they were already paid.
Glass would deform in that time scale...
I'm guessing your talking about the urban myth that glass can flow and melt? Sorry, but glass doesn't melt, it would hold it's form as long as it isn't shattered.
A better comparison would be cavemen doing it first with cave paintings since many of those are still around and do tell a story at times. And those are much older and better preserved then papyrus.
While not as sudden or dramatic as Mission Impossibles discs, there are the read-only for 48 hours dvds.
I don't know why I kept wasting the time to look up cites in the past when his first reaction was mudslinging and misinformation, guest I felt that it might be worth trying. Ehh... live and learn and treat others like they treated me. Might remember that for your next post, just read the first few words and assume the worst for you too... since obviously thinking that maybe there is more here then a first impression implies is possible...
Or has it always been big corporations that have been opposing it, so that no one buys up coca-cola.xxx or something?
Rule 34 in the making right there...
Finally there will be porn on the internet.
Took them long enough!
Wow... mom was right, you will go blind if you play with it...
Hopefully, this is a sign that our policies are not dictated by the "Think of the children" crowd.
To be honest, this could easily be made to be pro 'think of the children'. If suddenly it is designed that porn sites are to have the .xxx domain name then you can easily put on a very basic (even just OS Parental Controls) to just refuse to load .xxx domains. Its 'thinking of the children' as suddenly porn sites are easily identifiable and blockable since they all (in theory) be .xxx domains (like how most governments sites are expected to be .gov)
While most of the post I can accept as it is at least well thought it, it's when you claim things like "iPhone still outsells Android, all Android products, by a huge margin" that make me question your answer. As is mentioned today, from an article as far back as May, Android is outselling iPhones. It doesn't take a huge report to point it out that it's a mistake notion. But a simple Google search can at least make sure to yourself that what you said might be mistaken. (The links second choice would be a good, as the others are just guesswork.)
Doubtful, since thats all I asked for. All I asked for is a citation, even a single one. Thats all I asked for to accept what he said as fact. A good citation shows honesty and truth and will make me listen, this is how others have shown where I was wrong and I've accepted I was wrong, I've even mentioned it in return I was wrong. But just saying whatever and having nothing to back it up, even after being called on it and having a solid citation to show he was wrong, is worthless and not an answer.
I asked for you to give a legit citation, something you can't do because you know you've made up your posts, all of your posts.
This is just a load of shit.
Truth is never a load of shit, only someone who has something to hide would declare truth to be shit.
I didn't respond because I didn't read your post, and I don't intend to go back and do so. The thing is, even though this is the internet and all, you still have to treat people with respect if you want to receive respect in return.
I've treated you with respect many times. I've given you the benefit of the doubt many of times. For these acts of kindness I've had you insult me, lie to me and declare my answers meant nothing. Please try listening to yourself. I've been nice, many times. I'm only going to be nice so many times though. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but as the saying goes 'treat others as you wish to be treated'
You'll be hard pressed to cite an example of me totally shitting all over someone who's being respectful.
Myself would be my first example where when I caught your mistaken information in the past and pointed it out to you, you declared that pointing out your being wrong only made me seem like an idiot and a child to you somehow. You never were able to point out why in the times we've done this.
Not a single thing I've posted is "made up". Some of it is opinion, of course. But any facts are things I know to be true. I might be wrong, but I don't do what you're suggesting.
Oh? Your facts are true? Even though I've had the facts with sources to show you that you were wrong? You continue you go on, refusing to show facts, expecting others to disprove you as showing proof/facts about your comments is somehow beyond your needs.
Your claiming that I have a differing opinion. Showing facts that counter your say-so isn't a differing opinion. Its calling your bluff. And again, I'm calling your bluff. Prove me wrong.
I tell you what. Give me a specific thing you want me to either back up or refute or whatever. Do it without being an ass, and I'll respond (the only exceptions, aside from being an ass, is if the post is from long ago, or there are tons of replies and going through them is a hassle, it would be nice if slashdot had some way of marking replies as viewed or not to be easily sorted).
But, anyway, if you want to have a civil discussion, feel free to completely ignore all the stuff about how I'm not a troll or am a troll, or how you're being an ass or not an ass, etc. Silence will not count against you. Just throw some questions or whatever you think is an honest critique, and see how it goes.
And I debated whether to add this last part here or not, but I will because I think it may help out. Sometimes, hell, a *lot* of times, I'll erase part of a post where I insult someone. Not necessarily because I don't think they deserve it, or that they aren't guilty of being a complete idiot or whatever, but because it just does no good. You clearly think I'm a troll, or being an ass or an idiot or whatever. But really, do you think insulting me is going to get me to respond in a good way? How would it make you respond?
The first few times, I bit my tongue and ignored the comments of insult you gave me while still stating facts to disprove your comments that you were never able to back up. I really don't like to have to insult people but as I've mentioned, I can only be insulted so many times before I start getting annoyed.
As for deleting comments, I do that when I try to counter what someone says. Thats why I look up sources to show proof, because I've noticed sometimes I'm wrong and I'm not going to mention whatever I feel like because thats what I want to feel. Facts are real, opinion and memory are not always correct. Everyone makes mistakes and sometimes b
Developing countries and other countries that aren't included in the ACTA meetings aren't just sitting by.
D'you think if someone handed James Moore a cluestick he could use it to pry himself out of the CRIA's ass that he's so firmly lodged in? ... No?
Can we just beat him with it then?
Beat him with what? The cluestick or CRIA's ass? Or both for the best of both worlds?
Ahhhhh.... what the difference a year makes...
Then please don't bother responding in defense of the OP.
If you had read my post, you'd have noticed it wasn't I was 'afraid' of the truth. Far from it in fact. I called him on his comments, had the facts to back up my statements, and wanted him to try to be able to at least try to defend himself. And he didn't, as is his normal reaction.
If you wish to make a response to defend him, then maybe you could show me some facts to prove him right even? Maybe you could show a citation that could back up his claims and not just random say-so? I've called his bluffs, laid out the facts and I don't feel its that much to ask for some facts out of him to back up what he's saying.
You were so quick to try to label the first person a troll, yet panic when I called you one. Pot meet kettle.
And yes, I've read your posts, and I know you read mine. Your post showed me that. I asked for you to give a legit citation, something you can't do because you know you've made up your posts, all of your posts. I went through you posts. You spout out whatever seems to come to your mind, fully expecting everyone to accept what you say is god-honest truth. Even when its been shown you were wrong. And even when you've been shown that your wrong, you spout more nonsense still unable to give a single legit citation because your hoping to cover lies with more lies. Myself and others here have tried to have mature conversions with you but you always go back to the same old problems expecting everyone to take your word as gold because you said it. All I've asked you for is some legit citations, not much. And still, you refuse to.
Your claiming that I have a differing opinion. Showing facts that counter your say-so isn't a differing opinion. Its calling your bluff. And again, I'm calling your bluff. Prove me wrong.
By the looks of it, I got too close to the truth for you so you decided not to keep reading.
Didn't expect you to read it, since it wasn't blind pro-apple praise to be honest
They didn't cut the budget.
The parts dealing with going to the moon did. Though not all of it was cut and some parts did get more money. Seems like the joke went over a few peoples heads (seeing how it was marked down...)
So instead of paying NASA scientist to do the work of pouring over images looking for possible signs of... well anything on Mars, they are just planning on turning the jobs in 7th graders school 'projects'. I don't know which one is worse. The fact that the budget cuts are this bad, or the fact that all those years of post-HS schooling and student loans these scientist did for all their education is mentally around the level of a 7th's grader in the eyes of the government.
Control. Fanboys may defend Apple's control for various reasons, mostly using cognitive dissonance
FYI, when you get called a troll, it's for bullshit like this.
You feel that? Thats called irony. When the biggest Mac troll on slashdot tries to call someone a troll for bullshit. Now the next time you want to call someone a troll you need to take a good, long look in the mirror first.
They want to stop the hackintosh, they want to prevent more clones and they want to control what the end users experiences.
As for "controlling what the end user experiences". That's overstating things quite much. They don't want to control what the user experiences, with the fundamental exception that they want to exclude a set of very rational things. Primarily, buggy software, spyware, and ports which fail to make good use of the platform. They don't want control over my experience other than to help see to it that I don't have to deal with such crap. And when us "fanboys" say (as you said in your post) "it's for your own good and other such excuses", what we're saying is that "it makes the product better". That's why we willingly choose Apple products, so we don't have to deal with a bunch of crap. It's also a huge part of why Apple products do so well even when surrounded by competition whose primary advantage is less "control".
As for Mac and control, it's always been about control. Control over hardware and software. This is why its products like the iPod/iTouch/iPhone are encrypted, for control. People found they could start to alter the software on these devices like either use different software to load music on to these devices (like Amarok could before they encrypted the hardware) or even install their own firmware on the devices these people paid for and are normally under the idea (like anything else they buy) that they can do with it as they can. Apple saw that people were doing what they wanted with something they bought (that just happened to have the Apple logo) and they shit a brick. Now all of these devices are encrypted on the hardware level. It wasn't 'for your protection' as it was only being used by a very small minority.
And as for your claim that by being locked down it 'makes a product better', how? iPhones still crash (done it myself as have my friends), it's lock down nature hasn't help it's security, and all of it's 'attempts to make it a better product' by judging if an app should be allow has resulted in either plain old censorship to all out privacy issues from something 'approved'. This hasn't been able to make 'a better product' even after 3 years, and the issues are just growing. Restrictions like this have been tried before by different peoples of power through out history and every time its shown to be a bad thing for the same reason: when someone has power they are more then interested in using/abusing it. And no, Steve Job's isn't going to be the first person in the entire history of humanity to not succumb to the temptation.
This wont happen overnight, not even the RDF turned to eleven could pull that one off. It will happen over time in baby steps and be hailed by the fanboys.
It (although not the "it" you've been going on about) will be hailed because it will make our lives better. The "it" won't be locking down the Mac, or replacing Mac OS X with iOS, but "it" will be things like abstracting the filesystem