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7th Graders Find Large Cave On Mars
A newly discovered cave on Mars was found as the result of an interesting crowdsourcing project. As EMB Numbers writes, "CNET news reports that 'the science class from Evergreen Middle School in Cottonwood, Calif., found the opening while working on a research project with the Mars Space Flight Facility run out of Arizona State University in Tempe. ... The students examined more than 200 images of Mars taken with the Thermal Emission Imaging System (Themis), an instrument on NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter.' The only other similar opening near the volcano was found in 2007, when Glen Cushing, a scientist with the US Geological Survey, published a research paper on the surface anomalies. The opening is estimated to be 620 by 520 feet and the hole to be at least 380 feet deep."
I want to play martian cave man.
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I looked at the pictures, and it seems that they had a bug on the lens.
In all seriousness, though, I wonder how they can determine the depth of the hole, just from the surface characteristics?
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The opening is estimated to be 620 feet by 520 feet and the hole to be at least 380 feet deep. Wow! That beats even goatse!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
when i was in 7th grade my parents wouldnt even let me go to the pool by myself.. these kids today...with their ipods, their myspaces, and their spelunking visits to mars.. No Seriously, good job.
Apparently they want a closer look:
The students have submitted their site as a candidate for imaging by the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) camera on NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. HiRISE can image the surface at about 30 centimeters (12 inches) per pixel, which may allow a look inside the hole in the ground.
With a resolution of 0.3 meters... I hope they share their results if they are able to get the site imaged.
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When I was in grade 7 we learned about nothing even remotely as interesting as this. I think we looked at plant cells under a microscope.
It is pretty amazing that students can work with data like this, with computers and tools that enable it. Makes me wish I could go back to school and work on some of the stuff they teach in basic courses, particularly in high school.
Kids these days! (are damned lucky!)
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Here's a high-res picture of the cave interior
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Diametrically opposite to the face on mars.
Looks like someone was Soldering and started just NorthEast of this "cave".
Although the "Cave" looks like a "Hole" to me, still cover it with a UV filtering Geodesic Dome, pressurize it and I know where to drop the first colony.
Having some of that Water Ice, and CO2 Ice nearby wouldn't hurt either.
The landfill pit is already dug for them.
...until students start taking field trips to other planets, as seen on Spaceship Earth in Epcot Center.
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What's the difference between a cave and a hole? This looks like a hole to me.
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In my day, a fieldtrip consisted of nothing more than going outside -- in a field. The only caves we saw were the ones we had school in, and those were shared with the grizzly bears. If you've never seen your best friend's head get popped like a grape in the jaws of a grizzly, you've got it easy. It wasn't all bad though. Whenever we got a new transfer student, we'd convince them to yell into the cave really loud to "scare away the bats." Man, that was hilarious.
Anyway, yeah.. Mars.
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University students in Arizona are out kicking themselves in the butt for not seeing something that even 7th graders could find. One gold star next to the 7th graders on chart. One black eye for university students. And some say that legalizing pot will be a good thing.
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... and perhaps you can see Commander Draper and Friday in there.
Have gnu, will travel.
Opposite side of the planet as the face on Mars.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
Ah, that's where all the water went....
'Daddy, can we roll the Lander into the cave? Read fast?'
'But Will-- Dr. Robinson is standing in the entrance!'
Just looking at the pictures one can plainly see a string of sharp edged depressions (or pits) having a shadow on the left rim. The circled area of this image is simply another one of those depressions which happens to be slightly smaller in diameter than the width of the shadow. It is therefore obvious that this is just another one of those depressions. In order to be a cave it would need to travel UNDERNEATH the ground.
unpaid slavery
...as opposed to, what...paid slavery?
slavery
...because these people are being forced to do it against their will. Speaking of will...
if you will
Well I won't! Is it still slavery?
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I liked Mars better in the old days, when we still expected to find green women or for an armada of alien ships to possibly be headed our way. A little hot-cold red rock with some dry craters isn't nearly as interesting.
They didn't cut the budget.
Did you know there is a space plane in orbit? how about the many,many other project going on?
Parts of constellation got scrapped, and for good reason.
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They didn't cut the budget.
The parts dealing with going to the moon did. Though not all of it was cut and some parts did get more money. Seems like the joke went over a few peoples heads (seeing how it was marked down...)
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Did you know NASA doesn't have a space plane in orbit?
That'd be the Air Force, whose budget is handled just a tiny bit differently...
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That's no cave. That's the opening to the underground cannon the Martians used to fire their invasion cylinders at Earth during the opposition of the last years of the 19th century.
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The total budget is still larger, and thank goodness they're getting rid of Operation Lets-Repeat-Apollo-And-Act-Like-That-Means-Something which was preventing other actually new and interesting things from being accomplished.
BTW I got that you were joking, but it wasn't funny. It seems like there could be a joke premised on NASA hiring 7th graders, so maybe try working on it. Or not.
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I live near Cottonwood, and I never suspected they taught anything beyond logging, ranching and truck driving.
Great job, kids. I really have to reconsider Tehama County schools.
Wow.
One of them hopefully knows something about web design and can do better than this
I'm just floored.. A whole 'nother planet, hundreds of miles away in deep space, and they have HOLES too!!!
I usually stay away from trolls, but.. are you really suggesting that American education is akin to slavery?
I wonder what an 18th century slave in the American south would think of that comparison..
How about jury duty, is that also slavery? I'm sure all those people picking cotton were just thankful they didn't have to sit in a classroom or jury box all day. Imagine the horror.
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Just because previous versions of slavery were it worse doesn't change the definition.
If the bottom is level enough (or could be made level) then put a semi-transparent dome over the top and--tada!--instant shielded base.
Ya, the USAF gets to tag everything with "Classified". :)
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
You are talking about Naica, an impressive cave with no life conditions. A friend of mine was a producer for all the documentaries made a couple of years ago.
http://www.naica.com.mx/english/index.htm
The secret Martian cave from which I was going to launch my plot to take over the Earth has been discovered! My plans are foiled! And I would have gotten away with it, if not for these meddling kids!
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is clearly that Miss Frizzel and her magic school bus.
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Ahem. That's SHASTA County schools. Unless they're on the wrong side of Cottonwood Creek.
-- old Redding boy
Actually I retract that correction. Evergreen is indeed on the wrong side of the creek. Shasta Co. has some catching up to do, clearly...
It's one of those launching pads for flying sourcers. They just forgot to put a cover on this one, or perhaps the capping mechanism jammed.
Am I the only one wondering about the series of craters, all lined up almost perfectly ? How the hell did that happen ?