If you're serious, the Commodore VIC 20 was one of the first cheap personal home computers in the 80s.
There was a series of them, most based on the MOS 6502 processor or variations, and costing
All these old boxes were the same basic form factor; it was an oversized keyboard with the computer stuffed in it, compact, and hooked to your TV as a monitor (whough Apples often had monitors, damn preppies).
These were the first generation home computers, the first that you could buy from a store and get working without a soldering iron. Many a geek hitting 20's and 30's fondly remember these. Old, slow, (.5 MHz in case of C64) and low RAM (64K address space on the 6502, most had less, and even if you had 64K RAM, the OS has to be somewhere). But they were new. K3wl before most current script kiddies were allowed to cross the street. Cutting edge for the time. You'll find many more people loving these than the PCjr, which cost over 3x the price and had better capabilities.
Nostalgia being what it is, people want to do things with these first toys of yore. Remember the excitement of your first program work, your first sound from the SID chip, first Screen Blanking Interval sprite movenet. I had my "Mapping the C64" book for years, may not have thrown it out yet. RIP Commodore.
My first box, I never was cool enough to get the 16K RAM, I had to make due with the whole 1K of RAM. Worked I guess.
That P.O.S. didn't even have enough RAM/ROM for a proper BASIC tokenizer. It didn't parse your BASIC and tokenize it, the input system had special modes and when it expected a BASIC keyword you'd type the key and the keyword showed up. Internally it would keep a basic token, and any time you'd do a list it would display the keyword. I loved that piece of shit.
Microsoft tries to switch Hotmail from FreeBSD to NT5^H^H^HWindows2000. Can't, so Slashdot is in uproar. Microsoft can't "eat it's own lunch."
Sun mulls about (haven't done it yet) changing to it's own OS, one it has expertise in, that is much better supported than Linux on MIPS (current OS) or Linux on SPARC (one possible future) and Sun itself has more experience with Solaris/x86 than Sun has with Linux (notice, I said Sun's own experience, not the world's). Again, uproar, this time because they want to change something.
Why is it bad when MS can't use their own OS for Hotmail, but it's bad when Sun can? Eating it's own lunch.
The Cobalt Qube runs a hacked version of RedHat with a hacked version of the kernel all held together with Duct tape and baling wire quality Perl CGI scripts. For low end users, they would never see the difference in OS. For high end users, going from a hacked OS to a any real OS is an improvement, though they could go to a decent Linux install and improve it GREATLY.
This is a few years ago, but we were using MFC 4.2, so some may still apply.
My company was contracted out to port some Windoze based UPS monitoring and control software to various UNIXes. Won't tell you who, but their hardware and software both suck.
The project was planned at the outset to be cross platform, but they used MFC (mistake #1 of many). MFC is not much more than a wrapper around Win32. The greatest advantage you get is that they combine alot of calls. I don't have to call every kernel function, an MFC call will aggregate a few. So when commenting on MFC, comment on what it's designed for, aiding people using the Win32 API. It is not true OO, its a C++, class based abstraction layer on top of C and Win32 procedural calls and data types. Can debate whether it's a good abstraction layer (I personally think not) but at least critique it in the correct context.
Now, what we did is was rewrite non-GUI classes, and swap out the GUI classes with wxWindows, which seemed to be designed by someone very familiar with MFC, and had a lot of 1-1 mappings. Can't comment on wxWindows, I was using 1.4 which was bad (and yes I do realize it's open source, and I did contribute back) but haven't touched it since.
It wasn't hard, just time consuming. I'm thinking the game folks could do something similar for their old stuff (MFC lib on Freshmeat anyone?), and start Qt or V or whatever for their new stuff.
BTW: The only system clock we could find in Win32 for uptimes had something like a 14 day rollover. Hmm, even MS think s you need to reboot once a week.
(AFAIK MFC code might even be ported to Mac, albeit with lots of restrictions)
Actually, MS did port it to the Mac. I never used it, but MFC did exist on the Mac, I'm not sure if it still does. If you look at MFC headers, you may still be able to see #ifdef __mac__ or whatever. Piece of crap, nobody ever used it.
Speaking of restrictions, they also restricted what you could build with it, you couldn't make any MS Office type programs with it (WP, spreadsheet). No competition, please.
I agree with this. I'm stuck behind a Cobalt Qube. Touch anything without using the web interface, you void the warranty. It took me a week to get/etc/aliases the way I want it. I had to hand tune a bunch of things to get it half way secure. It also runs old versions of software, and updates are far and few between. I'ts still running an old version of the 2.1 kernel (to get IPChains) backported to look like 2.0.x.
We have net problens, wanted to run ntop on it (we're heavily swicthed, so that's the only place it can go). ntop is not on there, nor can it be built. Linux wasn't designed to be an appliance OS. Not that it's a bad OS (I like it) just the Qube seems very cobbled together if you look just below the HTML UI.
They've started this 5 years ago, with VC funding, but definitely not the R & D budget of Intel. So in 5 years, they cmae up with this tech. But now they say that it will take Intel, with really smart engineers and a bunch of cash and having a design to kinda target instead of design from scratch, more time than they did with fewer resources. You really think it will take Intel with all it's resources more time than the startup? Possible (throw lawyers and IP in here) but not likely.
I belive they have a lead. Not 5 years. Marketing hype.
Is it just me or would this be perfect to go to court with the CueCat case right after. Not an actual case of course (I hate lawyers) but just to see the docket.
Case 1: Idealab! vs. FuckedCompany.com
Case 2: Digital:Convergence vs. flyingbuttmonkeys.com
BTW: I can't be the only one annoyed by strange punctuation used to get a trademark?
For some reason, me thinking about something in the shower tends to be productive. Dunno if it's the relaxation, the concentration of doing another task, or what. Just works.
Most folks here use outlook, outside of me. Me, I don't like outlook, I use Netscape. Yeah, netscape sucks, and the only reason I use it is it's tough to.vbs me. I really need to switch (no, no suggestions necessary).
Anyways, when anyone sends me something, I use Fentun. Save as ___.tnf, double click it the file, and let Fentun do the work. http://www.fentun.com/
You can get a decent Windoze CLI, just not from Mickeysoft.
MKS makes the MKS Toolkit, which comes with teh Korn shell and the normal UNIX toolkit.
I personally use the Cygwin toolkit from http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/. It has bash, ash, and the entire GNU toolchain, plus some other stuff. Works great. Even works on UNC paths, which MS own shell won't. With UNC support, I get GNU bash working on my Samba shares on Linux and FreeBSD, sweeeeet.
I think the MIL-SPEC tape is called "100 Mile an Hour tape".
This isn't the stuff you get at ACE Hardware.
Thing is, if Velcro and duct tape work, why change it? You don't want to have a lot of extra weight, so the flexibility of Duct tape is pretty much perfect
Can I easily get to Dr Fun pages?
Why yes, there's a link to it on the front page.
Doesn't really bug me, if they want to call it my.i.e.dotcom.b2b.org , cool with me.
On a side note, Is it just me or all the iBeHeader.com MyEviscerator.com eImpaler.com domain names already seem dated?
Slashdot Mirror
Attempts to find text of all
Haggis recipes
Not great, but 575
ccol link, thanks.
There was a series of them, most based on the MOS 6502 processor or variations, and costing All these old boxes were the same basic form factor; it was an oversized keyboard with the computer stuffed in it, compact, and hooked to your TV as a monitor (whough Apples often had monitors, damn preppies).
These were the first generation home computers, the first that you could buy from a store and get working without a soldering iron. Many a geek hitting 20's and 30's fondly remember these. Old, slow, (.5 MHz in case of C64) and low RAM (64K address space on the 6502, most had less, and even if you had 64K RAM, the OS has to be somewhere). But they were new. K3wl before most current script kiddies were allowed to cross the street. Cutting edge for the time. You'll find many more people loving these than the PCjr, which cost over 3x the price and had better capabilities.
Nostalgia being what it is, people want to do things with these first toys of yore. Remember the excitement of your first program work, your first sound from the SID chip, first Screen Blanking Interval sprite movenet. I had my "Mapping the C64" book for years, may not have thrown it out yet. RIP Commodore.
That P.O.S. didn't even have enough RAM/ROM for a proper BASIC tokenizer. It didn't parse your BASIC and tokenize it, the input system had special modes and when it expected a BASIC keyword you'd type the key and the keyword showed up. Internally it would keep a basic token, and any time you'd do a list it would display the keyword. I loved that piece of shit.
I was getting 8,192 SPECWeb on a G4 with MacHTTP. REally. Umm, No Joke...
We've got big balls!
We've got the biggest
balls of them all!
Compliments to Angus young.
SYSV is pretty old, late 80's I think.
If I remember correctly, StarOffice requires a pretty hefty server backend to work it out. Sun sells servers.
Sun mulls about (haven't done it yet) changing to it's own OS, one it has expertise in, that is much better supported than Linux on MIPS (current OS) or Linux on SPARC (one possible future) and Sun itself has more experience with Solaris/x86 than Sun has with Linux (notice, I said Sun's own experience, not the world's). Again, uproar, this time because they want to change something.
Why is it bad when MS can't use their own OS for Hotmail, but it's bad when Sun can? Eating it's own lunch.
The Cobalt Qube runs a hacked version of RedHat with a hacked version of the kernel all held together with Duct tape and baling wire quality Perl CGI scripts. For low end users, they would never see the difference in OS. For high end users, going from a hacked OS to a any real OS is an improvement, though they could go to a decent Linux install and improve it GREATLY.
My 2 cents.
Oh my God, I created a fungus that killed the world!
You bastard!!!!!
Then the big corporations like microsoft.FUD and sun.FUD would have their own play space.
With mayonnaise. Like John Travolta.
My company was contracted out to port some Windoze based UPS monitoring and control software to various UNIXes. Won't tell you who, but their hardware and software both suck.
The project was planned at the outset to be cross platform, but they used MFC (mistake #1 of many). MFC is not much more than a wrapper around Win32. The greatest advantage you get is that they combine alot of calls. I don't have to call every kernel function, an MFC call will aggregate a few. So when commenting on MFC, comment on what it's designed for, aiding people using the Win32 API. It is not true OO, its a C++, class based abstraction layer on top of C and Win32 procedural calls and data types. Can debate whether it's a good abstraction layer (I personally think not) but at least critique it in the correct context.
Now, what we did is was rewrite non-GUI classes, and swap out the GUI classes with wxWindows, which seemed to be designed by someone very familiar with MFC, and had a lot of 1-1 mappings. Can't comment on wxWindows, I was using 1.4 which was bad (and yes I do realize it's open source, and I did contribute back) but haven't touched it since.
It wasn't hard, just time consuming. I'm thinking the game folks could do something similar for their old stuff (MFC lib on Freshmeat anyone?), and start Qt or V or whatever for their new stuff.
BTW: The only system clock we could find in Win32 for uptimes had something like a 14 day rollover. Hmm, even MS think s you need to reboot once a week.
Actually, MS did port it to the Mac. I never used it, but MFC did exist on the Mac, I'm not sure if it still does. If you look at MFC headers, you may still be able to see #ifdef __mac__ or whatever. Piece of crap, nobody ever used it.
Speaking of restrictions, they also restricted what you could build with it, you couldn't make any MS Office type programs with it (WP, spreadsheet). No competition, please.
We have net problens, wanted to run ntop on it (we're heavily swicthed, so that's the only place it can go). ntop is not on there, nor can it be built. Linux wasn't designed to be an appliance OS. Not that it's a bad OS (I like it) just the Qube seems very cobbled together if you look just below the HTML UI.
Pretty much the Paper Clip (the most irritationg part of MS Office) and Microsoft Bob (that was so successful).
The site is pretty sparse, post articles to them.
Their mission statement says Freedom to Innovate, and to think someone said they were a Microsoft shill....
I belive they have a lead. Not 5 years. Marketing hype.
Case 1: Idealab! vs. FuckedCompany.com
Case 2: Digital:Convergence vs. flyingbuttmonkeys.com
BTW: I can't be the only one annoyed by strange punctuation used to get a trademark?
For some reason, me thinking about something in the shower tends to be productive. Dunno if it's the relaxation, the concentration of doing another task, or what. Just works.
Anyways, when anyone sends me something, I use Fentun. Save as ___.tnf, double click it the file, and let Fentun do the work. http://www.fentun.com/
MKS makes the MKS Toolkit, which comes with teh Korn shell and the normal UNIX toolkit.
I personally use the Cygwin toolkit from http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/. It has bash, ash, and the entire GNU toolchain, plus some other stuff. Works great. Even works on UNC paths, which MS own shell won't. With UNC support, I get GNU bash working on my Samba shares on Linux and FreeBSD, sweeeeet.
This isn't the stuff you get at ACE Hardware.
Thing is, if Velcro and duct tape work, why change it? You don't want to have a lot of extra weight, so the flexibility of Duct tape is pretty much perfect
One vote per IP? Not really good. I can have legit multiple votes per IP:
*) If I'm coming through a proxy. Do X million AOL users get only 40 or so votes between them because they all come through the same proxies?
*) A NAT box. I have about 14 192.168's behind a single NAT box. DO we only get one vote per company?
*) Multiple users on a machine. If I have a huge server, and I have a few users on it, each running their own browser.
Web polls suck, nearly impossible not to fake.
Why yes, there's a link to it on the front page. Doesn't really bug me, if they want to call it my.i.e.dotcom.b2b.org , cool with me.
On a side note, Is it just me or all the iBeHeader.com MyEviscerator.com eImpaler.com domain names already seem dated?