1) The TCP/IP stack in WinNT 4 had some BSD code, it's been said that it's been ripped out of NT codebase (NT => 2000 => XP) for some time.
2) That's BSD license, not GPL. They're allowed to use it as they see fit. See how MS played with Kerberos. The BSD license has nothing to say about exposing source.
I think folks have to remember that the mascot comes from the UNIX daemon, which is a headless process. Someone got cute, and didn't mean anything by it.
Do you have any evidence that HP was more involved in the design of IA-64 than Intel?
No evidence, but I remember reading this back in the day when they were being designed. The Itanium (Merced) was the Intel designed chip, while Itanium II (McKinley) was more on the HP side. HP had been doing 64 bit chips for some time, and had expertise. It showed in the performance boost Itanium II vs original. Most of the bickering on who did what was years ago, so hard to find something today.
I know your point is that none of these were intended to be a religion, just ended up that way. I think Emacs might not quite fit that. Stallman wrote Emacs as the essential first tool in the quest to make the HURD a full OS that could compete and eventually replace UNIX. Granted, a lot of the religion that grew up with EMACS was more functionality and scriptability (and the accompanying bloat) vs. vi, but there was a religion nonetheless.
Rendezvous "catch up' technology to old AppleTalk?
on
Rendezvous For Apache
·
· Score: 2
Oddly enough rendezvous reminds me a little of catch up technology, catch up to what AppleTalk used to give you. For those who never used it, AppleTalk used a name based protocol, with only one well-known port. When you opened something in the Chooser, it would send out a broadcast on the local net on that well-known port, telling the device what DeviceType it was looking for. If the DeviceType matched, it would respond with it's DeviceName, and they'd show up the the Chooser. Rendezvous seems to be trying to catch up TCP/IP to the old easy-to-find AppleTalk tech.
Even though NT was 1.0, MS didn't want the 1.0 stigma (specially with MS's 1.0 history) so called it NT 3.11, it's justification was that NT was at the smae level as Windows, so it deserved it. Silly since it's either more advanced (NT based on microkernel, 32-bit, protected memory) or much greener (a 1.0 release).
Does anyone remember that browsers didn't use to be free until Internet Explorer came along ? Netscape was de-facto free well before IE came along. Early on, they figured that they needed to get the browser out to everybody to make it THE platform. Anyone that actually paid for it, well that was found money. They really wanted to make money from servers, bu Apache and IIS killed them on this.
This may sound silly, but extremely effective. I had a professor who I did this to. I was staring at some homework that was bombing for 3 hours. Went to ask him what I fscked up. In the process I see that I used the wrong var as an index. I thank him for his time, and leave. If I had a frog, would have saved me some walking and him about 5 minutes.
The trick is that you have to explain it to the frog (or whatever object) completely enough for them to understand it if they were a real person. Sometimes just the act of organizing your thoughts force a different organization which shows you what you were looking at for 5 hours but couldn't see.
Why would political calls be exempt from this? You expect politicians to live by their own rules, to vote in restrictions on what they can do? Ha! The government also is exempt from a lot of labor laws.
but destroys the very concept of product ownership. This has been gone for a lonnnnnnnnnnng time. Read the Lawyer-ist bits that come with your software. You don't own the software, just a license to use. One that's usually revokable at various discretions of the software publisher.
IBM is doing something similar
on
New SGI Altix 3000
·
· Score: 3, Informative
One, how long will the readable period be? If anything it should be longer. Part of the reason for returns is to get one of a limited number of N physical books back into the system so others can read it. No need here, since the 'lending' of the digital book doesnt limit lending it to someone else, you don't have that restriction.
And while I'm on the subject of piracy, there's a way that all ebooks can fail in their attempts to curb it. Anyone hear of a Xerox machine? OCR? Piracy existed well before the invention of Ebooks, and will continue.
Watcom was for years considered the best optimizing compilerm much better than VC++. The reason "DOS Era" was mentioned because it was the best in the DOS era, before the days of Windows and Win32 flavor of the day complexity that pretty much forced you into some kind of toolkit like MFC and OWL. Watcom lost becuase it didn't really support these, not because it's compiler was bad.
The compiler doesn't list Linux as a target, and even if it did, I doubt if folks would switch to this compiler, too many gcc'isms in the kernel, and folks are just too used to gcc. But since it's open source, the optimizations may cross over, though I'm not an open source licence lawyer, so i don't know if the OpenWatcom license is compatible with cross-breeding with gcc. The only real issue I can think of is how well does it optimize for the latest generation of chips, Athlon and P4. I haven't followed Watcom development so I don't know if they're up to date on the latest chips (website didn't mention).
I remember reading this as part of a warning really. There was a mainframe app, and there was a constant, and it was called BDOLVB. Some maintenance programmers inherited the system, and saw the obove constant, and didn't know what the hell it was. They tried to look it up, figure out what the meaning was, and they couldn't figure it out. They could see what it was set to, 1770 Octal, but didnt know what it meant. They put looking into it on the back-burner - the system worked but they were stil curious about the meaning. Eventually, after months, they found oout what it meant. 1770 = BirthDate Of Lidwig Van Beethoven Since they spun their wheels for a few days tracking this down, they weren't smiling all that much at the cleverness of this.
The thing to remember is that code is harder to read than to write. The author has context, information that the reader doesn't have and has to guess at. If you want to be funny, do so, but don't interfere with the ultimate goal of source, to make it easy for people to see and change your code.
The \< and \> metacharacters anchor it to the beginning or end of a word. I'm not sure if it's in all grep's, but GNU grep (the one on Linux and Cygwin, and some others) support this. Check your man page.
I remember a story a while back stating that all the 'fuck's in the Linux source code could possibly get it censored. I think at the time Australia had rules strict enough to technically make downloading the Linux kernel illegal.
Slashdot Mirror
1) Nobody know's what SCO is doing. They've done nothing yet.
2) Apple uses FreeBSD, and the FreeBSD source went through this thing years ago (in a very ugly period of lawsuits) and came out clean.
Probably a troll, but just in case you're not...
1) The TCP/IP stack in WinNT 4 had some BSD code, it's been said that it's been ripped out of NT codebase (NT => 2000 => XP) for some time.
2) That's BSD license, not GPL. They're allowed to use it as they see fit. See how MS played with Kerberos. The BSD license has nothing to say about exposing source.
You're not from Texas are you?
I think folks have to remember that the mascot comes from the UNIX daemon, which is a headless process. Someone got cute, and didn't mean anything by it.
Do you have any evidence that HP was more involved in the design of IA-64 than Intel?
No evidence, but I remember reading this back in the day when they were being designed. The Itanium (Merced) was the Intel designed chip, while Itanium II (McKinley) was more on the HP side. HP had been doing 64 bit chips for some time, and had expertise. It showed in the performance boost Itanium II vs original. Most of the bickering on who did what was years ago, so hard to find something today.
I know your point is that none of these were intended to be a religion, just ended up that way. I think Emacs might not quite fit that. Stallman wrote Emacs as the essential first tool in the quest to make the HURD a full OS that could compete and eventually replace UNIX. Granted, a lot of the religion that grew up with EMACS was more functionality and scriptability (and the accompanying bloat) vs. vi, but there was a religion nonetheless.
Oddly enough rendezvous reminds me a little of catch up technology, catch up to what AppleTalk used to give you. For those who never used it, AppleTalk used a name based protocol, with only one well-known port. When you opened something in the Chooser, it would send out a broadcast on the local net on that well-known port, telling the device what DeviceType it was looking for. If the DeviceType matched, it would respond with it's DeviceName, and they'd show up the the Chooser. Rendezvous seems to be trying to catch up TCP/IP to the old easy-to-find AppleTalk tech.
In Soviet Russia, all your base are belong to Natalie Portman's Beowulf cluster of hot grits for Profit! cuz BSD is dead
.sig of trolls slacker...
No goatse.cx guy? No Ogg the Caveman? No Haiku guy?
Anyone remember when some guy wanted to get some "Nike ID" personalized running shoes with "Sweatshop" on them. The guy published his experiences on the web.
You forgot NT 3.11, and NT 3.5
Even though NT was 1.0, MS didn't want the 1.0 stigma (specially with MS's 1.0 history) so called it NT 3.11, it's justification was that NT was at the smae level as Windows, so it deserved it. Silly since it's either more advanced (NT based on microkernel, 32-bit, protected memory) or much greener (a 1.0 release).
Does anyone remember that browsers didn't use to be free until Internet Explorer came along ?
Netscape was de-facto free well before IE came along. Early on, they figured that they needed to get the browser out to everybody to make it THE platform. Anyone that actually paid for it, well that was found money. They really wanted to make money from servers, bu Apache and IIS killed them on this.
This may sound silly, but extremely effective. I had a professor who I did this to. I was staring at some homework that was bombing for 3 hours. Went to ask him what I fscked up. In the process I see that I used the wrong var as an index. I thank him for his time, and leave. If I had a frog, would have saved me some walking and him about 5 minutes.
The trick is that you have to explain it to the frog (or whatever object) completely enough for them to understand it if they were a real person. Sometimes just the act of organizing your thoughts force a different organization which shows you what you were looking at for 5 hours but couldn't see.
(Bad joke follows)
So you can see those 3-D movies without those dorky glasses?
The Register also has a blurb on this. I like the dig at Sun at the end, meow indeed.
Gravity works because we believe in it.
Thats the Hanna-Barbera Law of Special Relativity.
Why would political calls be exempt from this?
You expect politicians to live by their own rules, to vote in restrictions on what they can do? Ha! The government also is exempt from a lot of labor laws.
but destroys the very concept of product ownership.
This has been gone for a lonnnnnnnnnnng time. Read the Lawyer-ist bits that come with your software. You don't own the software, just a license to use. One that's usually revokable at various discretions of the software publisher.
From the Register
One, how long will the readable period be?
If anything it should be longer. Part of the reason for returns is to get one of a limited number of N physical books back into the system so others can read it. No need here, since the 'lending' of the digital book doesnt limit lending it to someone else, you don't have that restriction.
And while I'm on the subject of piracy, there's a way that all ebooks can fail in their attempts to curb it.
Anyone hear of a Xerox machine? OCR? Piracy existed well before the invention of Ebooks, and will continue.
A first post that actually makes some amount of sense? True "First" indeed.
Watcom was for years considered the best optimizing compilerm much better than VC++. The reason "DOS Era" was mentioned because it was the best in the DOS era, before the days of Windows and Win32 flavor of the day complexity that pretty much forced you into some kind of toolkit like MFC and OWL. Watcom lost becuase it didn't really support these, not because it's compiler was bad.
The compiler doesn't list Linux as a target, and even if it did, I doubt if folks would switch to this compiler, too many gcc'isms in the kernel, and folks are just too used to gcc. But since it's open source, the optimizations may cross over, though I'm not an open source licence lawyer, so i don't know if the OpenWatcom license is compatible with cross-breeding with gcc. The only real issue I can think of is how well does it optimize for the latest generation of chips, Athlon and P4. I haven't followed Watcom development so I don't know if they're up to date on the latest chips (website didn't mention).
Our Linux production servers run heavily threaded Java apps.
Does the "thread really is a seperate process" mess with things like signals as well?
I remember reading this as part of a warning really. There was a mainframe app, and there was a constant, and it was called BDOLVB. Some maintenance programmers inherited the system, and saw the obove constant, and didn't know what the hell it was. They tried to look it up, figure out what the meaning was, and they couldn't figure it out. They could see what it was set to, 1770 Octal, but didnt know what it meant. They put looking into it on the back-burner - the system worked but they were stil curious about the meaning. Eventually, after months, they found oout what it meant.
1770 = BirthDate Of Lidwig Van Beethoven
Since they spun their wheels for a few days tracking this down, they weren't smiling all that much at the cleverness of this.
The thing to remember is that code is harder to read than to write. The author has context, information that the reader doesn't have and has to guess at. If you want to be funny, do so, but don't interfere with the ultimate goal of source, to make it easy for people to see and change your code.
grep '\<[Aa][Nn][Tt]\>' ....
The \< and \> metacharacters anchor it to the beginning or end of a word. I'm not sure if it's in all grep's, but GNU grep (the one on Linux and Cygwin, and some others) support this. Check your man page.
I remember a story a while back stating that all the 'fuck's in the Linux source code could possibly get it censored. I think at the time Australia had rules strict enough to technically make downloading the Linux kernel illegal.
Hmm, nothing for C++ or Java?
while (horse.IsDead())
{
horse.beat();
}