To those who would trash Hackers as inaccurate, watch "Copycat (1995)", better movie as movies go, but, same year, and way more inaccurate portrayal of computer hackers/crackers. After comparing the two, you might come to see that "The Net (1995)" and "Hackers (1995)" were not that bad in their portrayal of computers/technology/hacking/cracking for that time period in Hollywood.
Funny, I tried to submit a REAL news story about wireles a couple days back "2001-03-29 00:17:32 Color Cell Phones (articles,tech) (rejected)." Thought was still interesting, so I put the story on MU with
a few references. It was announced by Sprint themselves Yesterday, and Yahoo, AND... cnet
have already ran the story now too. PDA Buzz has mentioned it yesterday. And it's not like it's shocking news if you look at some of the cell
phone stuff going on, like the
PalmOS Samsung and the countless other PDA replacement cell phones coming
out.
But I guess it's not/. news until they can be sure to be the LAST to report it! Hmm.. Ya, but those wireless microwaves... Wooo doggy, uber geek, but... Ah, nevermind, it is sort of cool, just a bit more pointless. Just glad there are at least one or two other sources of Geek news than slashdot...
A more interesting point would be.... If a good BSD admin were to replace the average SlashDot users Linux with FreeBSD, how many days would go by before they even noticed? Pot, Kettle, Black....
Without uname, I bet you could fool a couple. "but I downloaded this new cool.rpm and installed it"... Yea, you can do that in FreeBSD..
How many people poke around in their init scripts daily (other than me;-). Truth is, there are lots of differences, but they are structural, not functional. You can't include any of the BSD's because they just are NOT Linux.
I would LIKE to see more *BSD vs. Linux distribution comparisons... I'd like to see more *NIX comparisons. But, I'd prefer to see them from people who know what the hell they are talking about.
isn't your government trampling on people's rights too?
Hehehahahaha.. My god man... Now your saying that trampling on people's rights is an acceptable solution?
PS: a $500 permit allows you to own a fully automatic weapon here. It's called a "Class III Licence." No test either. Rocket launchers, I don't know, haven't known anyone that wanted one.
Uhm... Not to raise a sore point, but, I believe the US and Australians have about as distant origins as possable. One was a controled state at it's origin (prison colony), the other was men fighting to be free of all control. Gee, and you wonder why we look at things diffrently?
Why not take a look at the statistics per capita for firearms deaths in, say, the UK, Australia, Canada and the US
Sure, any day. you do know there are more people here right? Say, can we add China and Russia to the list? They ban guns too!
I can't believe that people in Canada, Australia, or the UK can HONESTLY believe that they can compare their cultures to ours.... I guess you forgot that we INTENDED to be diffrent, going back more than 200 years? Afraid of choice?
Why not just say "Your just like us, only you have guns, so, get rid of them and you will have less problems like us." That's what your saying, only in clear words, where we can all see exactly where and why you are soo soooo wrong.
PS: Chris, btw, I do think your right about some things, and give you a lot of credit for putting TIME with the kids high on your list of priorities. It's just the "I wouldn't let this happen" tone that strikes me wrong... Teens tend to push limits, and when you give them too many, they push harder... It's a balancing act, I'm sure you know. You have to be the enforcer, but somehow keep from being the enemy. Tough thing to do (and frankly, since your interested in doing it, your probably in the top 10% of parents by todays standards).
Just a guess... Did you vote for Nader?
Sound like you should have.
Oh. BTW. I disagree, I think you may be trying to controling behavior by regulation and policy rather than preventing it through education and knowing your children... Your way may very likely lead to rebelion in children. Just a note since you do have kids. I've seen it happen to others.
CDC is not a honest source. They once stated that most shootings were accidential deaths to children (remember the TV commercials?). When the facts were looked into, the said 0-21 was a "child" and over 75% of the deaths they counted seemed to be inner city minorities involved in gang activity. Yea, accidental my ass...
You do have some point in there though. Since WWII, two income families are common place, and family values (eek buzz word) have declined. All for the sake of "keeping up with the neighbors" to have a newer car, bigger house, with more distant children... But. I don't buy your sources.
from an outsider (non-us) point of view. So remove the means, this case being guns.
You obviously don't, and can't understand the culture. not your fault. you just don't live here, don't understand Adams, Jefferson, American history, and the reason things are like this.
There is a long, deeply seated reason our society had guns. It won't change in 1 year, 5 years, 20 years, or probably 100 years. Since you don't understand that... Your best just not saying anything, because it's both unrealistic, and against the founding goals of the country.
But... To each his own.. that's why there are diffrent countries. Just be glad society is mobile enouth to give you more choices of where to live in the world than any time in history, yet there are still boundries to keep ways of life seperated.
thanks, but no thanks. It's not the guns. I seem to remember a number of things in the course of recent history that were far more nasty than Americans with Guns. China, Moscow, Germany,... Just look around the world.
Tip to outsiders... You do realize Americans brought you Hollywood, right? Americans can over dramitize things in mass media better than ANYONE. But if we could get our reporters in the parts of the world where REAL tragities happened, you wouldn't even be able to remember that we still have Cowboy's and Indian's (figure of speach... actually, those two groups now probably get along better than any other two in modern society!)
Noticed you... But... two things. I already posted, so I can mod this thred. Second, I don't see the connection. Family, peer pressures, drugs, and political confusion about "who should teach our children, parents, a community, or the government" all have WAY more to do with it than art.
K, I'm going to vent, spelling just went out the window!
You are sooo full of shit. At first I wanted to post anonymous, then I figured, why bother, your opinion is so lacking in fact it's sad.
It's ANTI-GUN CULTURE in a gun filled society that KILLS. A purely statistical study will show you that, if you READ THE STATS, not interpet them. When you ban more guns in areas that have lots of guns, crimes go up. Simple. Sure, ban them in places without guns, and you will get crime to go down...because you CAN ban them.
Please read Jefferson or Adams on this, or don't even discuss the US. The US was DEFINED by an intent to have a MILLITA, not a military. The people were INTENDED to AT ALL TIMES be able to overpower ANY government, ESPECIALLY OUR OWN!
What's sad is, today, it's 1/2 there. We have the guns, dreams of freedom, but we also have the &$*(#! liberal politicians and a standing military. A bad combination. Not what was intended. It's not one good way, or the other good way, it's the middle road, with the worst of both and the best of none!
Fucking Canadians... Like you have a CLUE what makes a country work... Yea, I can see your absolute dominance... Fix your own problems before you tell us what to do.
BTW, TO GO BACK ON TOPIC. I had a HK91 when I was 15. I had a Browning HighPower when I was 12. I had my first shotgun when I was 8. I was a outcast geek. I -KNEW- what guns were, and respected the fact that they were capable of taking lifes.
I had teen rage, hate, lonelyness, isolation, depression..... But, I also had a family that TAUGHT ME, life is valuable, no matter how small or insignificant, and you fight to survive, not fight to destroy. The harm you bring to others is harm you bring to your own very sole. Hehehehe... Call it Karma if you want... I guess that's what it is.
The POTENTIAL of guns to do this devistation is there, sure... But, that doesn't mean it's justification, and it's fucking down right LAME to use guns as a scapegoat for this whole thing. And that's what your doing.
The kids are screwed up. On thier own, or due to peer pressure, hard to say... THAT is the problem. NOT the guns. Hell, I'd RATHER they have the guns, what's the other option? Bombs? Given the choice, I'd rather the other kids had a fighting chance... Maybe you would rather see them just blow up tens or hundreds of kids at a time? Little Tim McV's blowing up shit?
I mean seriously, am I the only one that thinks almost all of the HB cartoons suck in quality AND story?
Hmm... When I was 5 to 10 years old watching Scooby Doo, Squiddly Diddly, El-Kabong, Doggie Daddy, etc.. I never really noticed.
Now, as an adult, _if_ I get a chance to see those classics again, I don't miss the story lines at all... Cause I am just too busy laughing.
I guess with the influx of Asian animation, people look at cartoons very diffrent now. And, I'll give you that the new stuff can be very technical, very complete stories, etc... But, nothing today makes me laugh quite like the old HB stuff did... and they did it over 30 years ago.
You PAID for your UID? I got paid to take mine....;-P
BTW, you never know what prompts a reply, and what is relevent. I see no harm in asking if there was a link in the artical or relevent info that prompted the person to ask this question.
But to answer your question, it's quite simple. People obsessed with thier looks are usually shallow. So, to try to compensate for being shallow, they do the one thing they understand best. Obsessed with looks and visual stimulus, you naturally will be drawn to art. And, by claiming an intrest in art, no one will tell them they are "wrong" (because art is subjective), and they loose some stigma of being shallow because they have a "deep and passionate" interest.
damn, my post got mangled... forgot to hit the plain text option, and quite a bit of the post is actually missing... and it's late, and I'm off to bed now... I'm sure someone will correct my comments for me soon anyway:-)
Actually, I think they are missing the ball also, unless they are nfs mounting a bit on the server.
If you actually have some small media (even read only like a CDROM, that is dirt cheap, easy to upgrade, and drives are cheap) you have much more flexability.
Xterminals can benifit from a bit of software, like ssh encription (which isn't used for security in this case, but for it's compression abilities).
I'd definatly want to run X itself locally, not off the server, but that's only going to require
Of course, your uptime for the xterminals may suffer, I don't think you can block off RAM as a replacement for a drive and not expect data corruption over a long period of time (months?), but a quick reboot once a week or so would solve that. And, what's it really matter if they need to reboot the xterminal... Really? You think a bunch of grade school kids will never hit the power button by accident anyway?
Uhmm.... Do you understand a terminal? The whole point is you manage only the server(s), and the users all work at terminals (that can in fact run off a CD and not even have a hard drive).
Very retro idea, ala 1970's UNIX... What's shocking is that any system admin would want to do anything else.
You have a VERY good point, why would anyone want to manage tones of work stations.... Which Mac's and Windows boxes demand... I just don't understand how you turned that around.
Maybe you don't care, but I bet your not married and don't have kids either? Considering the hours of time in the are, and being able to be home for dinner every night... It's not that bad.
I WISH my job was boring enough that I could just sit and read or play with a laptop all day long.....
Hmm.. Maybe for some people, coming home to a wife and kids every night might not be ideal... But... I don't know, I just don't believe they will have a very hard time finding pilots for this, not at all...
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Hmm.. I just noted a movie reviewer I will never listen to again... Thanks for the tip :-)
To those who would trash Hackers as inaccurate, watch "Copycat (1995)", better movie as movies go, but, same year, and way more inaccurate portrayal of computer hackers/crackers. After comparing the two, you might come to see that "The Net (1995)" and "Hackers (1995)" were not that bad in their portrayal of computers/technology/hacking/cracking for that time period in Hollywood.
I was pretty sure from the movies I have seen that they only use 1 application... MacroMedia director... So, OS was not the big issue?
Wahahahahahah... Karma be damned... I've already watched my post go back and forth between "Interesting" and "Off Topic" 3 times in 10 minutes!
But I guess it's not /. news until they can be sure to be the LAST to report it! Hmm.. Ya, but those wireless microwaves... Wooo doggy, uber geek, but... Ah, nevermind, it is sort of cool, just a bit more pointless. Just glad there are at least one or two other sources of Geek news than slashdot...
Well, because one is BSD and the other is GPL?
A more interesting point would be.... If a good BSD admin were to replace the average SlashDot users Linux with FreeBSD, how many days would go by before they even noticed? Pot, Kettle, Black....
Without uname, I bet you could fool a couple. "but I downloaded this new cool .rpm and installed it" ... Yea, you can do that in FreeBSD..
How many people poke around in their init scripts daily (other than me ;-). Truth is, there are lots of differences, but they are structural, not functional. You can't include any of the BSD's because they just are NOT Linux.
I would LIKE to see more *BSD vs. Linux distribution comparisons... I'd like to see more *NIX comparisons. But, I'd prefer to see them from people who know what the hell they are talking about.
Hehehahahaha .. My god man... Now your saying that trampling on people's rights is an acceptable solution?
PS: a $500 permit allows you to own a fully automatic weapon here. It's called a "Class III Licence." No test either. Rocket launchers, I don't know, haven't known anyone that wanted one.
Uhm... Not to raise a sore point, but, I believe the US and Australians have about as distant origins as possable. One was a controled state at it's origin (prison colony), the other was men fighting to be free of all control. Gee, and you wonder why we look at things diffrently?
Sure, any day. you do know there are more people here right? Say, can we add China and Russia to the list? They ban guns too!
I can't believe that people in Canada, Australia, or the UK can HONESTLY believe that they can compare their cultures to ours.... I guess you forgot that we INTENDED to be diffrent, going back more than 200 years? Afraid of choice?
Why not just say "Your just like us, only you have guns, so, get rid of them and you will have less problems like us." That's what your saying, only in clear words, where we can all see exactly where and why you are soo soooo wrong.
PS: Chris, btw, I do think your right about some things, and give you a lot of credit for putting TIME with the kids high on your list of priorities. It's just the "I wouldn't let this happen" tone that strikes me wrong... Teens tend to push limits, and when you give them too many, they push harder... It's a balancing act, I'm sure you know. You have to be the enforcer, but somehow keep from being the enemy. Tough thing to do (and frankly, since your interested in doing it, your probably in the top 10% of parents by todays standards).
Just a guess... Did you vote for Nader? Sound like you should have. Oh. BTW. I disagree, I think you may be trying to controling behavior by regulation and policy rather than preventing it through education and knowing your children... Your way may very likely lead to rebelion in children. Just a note since you do have kids. I've seen it happen to others.
You do have some point in there though. Since WWII, two income families are common place, and family values (eek buzz word) have declined. All for the sake of "keeping up with the neighbors" to have a newer car, bigger house, with more distant children... But. I don't buy your sources.
You obviously don't, and can't understand the culture. not your fault. you just don't live here, don't understand Adams, Jefferson, American history, and the reason things are like this.
There is a long, deeply seated reason our society had guns. It won't change in 1 year, 5 years, 20 years, or probably 100 years. Since you don't understand that... Your best just not saying anything, because it's both unrealistic, and against the founding goals of the country.
But... To each his own.. that's why there are diffrent countries. Just be glad society is mobile enouth to give you more choices of where to live in the world than any time in history, yet there are still boundries to keep ways of life seperated.
thanks, but no thanks. It's not the guns. I seem to remember a number of things in the course of recent history that were far more nasty than Americans with Guns. China, Moscow, Germany, ... Just look around the world.
Tip to outsiders... You do realize Americans brought you Hollywood, right? Americans can over dramitize things in mass media better than ANYONE. But if we could get our reporters in the parts of the world where REAL tragities happened, you wouldn't even be able to remember that we still have Cowboy's and Indian's (figure of speach... actually, those two groups now probably get along better than any other two in modern society!)
Noticed you... But... two things. I already posted, so I can mod this thred. Second, I don't see the connection. Family, peer pressures, drugs, and political confusion about "who should teach our children, parents, a community, or the government" all have WAY more to do with it than art.
Like what? fighting back?
Or did you mean that they don't have gasoline or bombs in your parrell universe?
Thanks :-)
K, I'm going to vent, spelling just went out the window!
You are sooo full of shit. At first I wanted to post anonymous, then I figured, why bother, your opinion is so lacking in fact it's sad.
It's ANTI-GUN CULTURE in a gun filled society that KILLS. A purely statistical study will show you that, if you READ THE STATS, not interpet them. When you ban more guns in areas that have lots of guns, crimes go up. Simple. Sure, ban them in places without guns, and you will get crime to go down...because you CAN ban them.
Please read Jefferson or Adams on this, or don't even discuss the US. The US was DEFINED by an intent to have a MILLITA, not a military. The people were INTENDED to AT ALL TIMES be able to overpower ANY government, ESPECIALLY OUR OWN!
What's sad is, today, it's 1/2 there. We have the guns, dreams of freedom, but we also have the &$*(#! liberal politicians and a standing military. A bad combination. Not what was intended. It's not one good way, or the other good way, it's the middle road, with the worst of both and the best of none!
Fucking Canadians... Like you have a CLUE what makes a country work... Yea, I can see your absolute dominance... Fix your own problems before you tell us what to do.
BTW, TO GO BACK ON TOPIC. I had a HK91 when I was 15. I had a Browning HighPower when I was 12. I had my first shotgun when I was 8. I was a outcast geek. I -KNEW- what guns were, and respected the fact that they were capable of taking lifes.
I had teen rage, hate, lonelyness, isolation, depression..... But, I also had a family that TAUGHT ME, life is valuable, no matter how small or insignificant, and you fight to survive, not fight to destroy. The harm you bring to others is harm you bring to your own very sole. Hehehehe... Call it Karma if you want... I guess that's what it is.
The POTENTIAL of guns to do this devistation is there, sure... But, that doesn't mean it's justification, and it's fucking down right LAME to use guns as a scapegoat for this whole thing. And that's what your doing.
The kids are screwed up. On thier own, or due to peer pressure, hard to say... THAT is the problem. NOT the guns. Hell, I'd RATHER they have the guns, what's the other option? Bombs? Given the choice, I'd rather the other kids had a fighting chance... Maybe you would rather see them just blow up tens or hundreds of kids at a time? Little Tim McV's blowing up shit?
It's a bad craftsman who blames his tools....
Hmm... When I was 5 to 10 years old watching Scooby Doo, Squiddly Diddly, El-Kabong, Doggie Daddy, etc.. I never really noticed.
Now, as an adult, _if_ I get a chance to see those classics again, I don't miss the story lines at all... Cause I am just too busy laughing.
I guess with the influx of Asian animation, people look at cartoons very diffrent now. And, I'll give you that the new stuff can be very technical, very complete stories, etc... But, nothing today makes me laugh quite like the old HB stuff did... and they did it over 30 years ago.
Correlation factor between spelling and IQ is generally thought to be around 0.6, you tell me, how lucky do you feel?
BTW, you never know what prompts a reply, and what is relevent. I see no harm in asking if there was a link in the artical or relevent info that prompted the person to ask this question.
But to answer your question, it's quite simple. People obsessed with thier looks are usually shallow. So, to try to compensate for being shallow, they do the one thing they understand best. Obsessed with looks and visual stimulus, you naturally will be drawn to art. And, by claiming an intrest in art, no one will tell them they are "wrong" (because art is subjective), and they loose some stigma of being shallow because they have a "deep and passionate" interest.
damn, my post got mangled... forgot to hit the plain text option, and quite a bit of the post is actually missing... and it's late, and I'm off to bed now... I'm sure someone will correct my comments for me soon anyway :-)
If you actually have some small media (even read only like a CDROM, that is dirt cheap, easy to upgrade, and drives are cheap) you have much more flexability.
Xterminals can benifit from a bit of software, like ssh encription (which isn't used for security in this case, but for it's compression abilities).
I'd definatly want to run X itself locally, not off the server, but that's only going to require Of course, your uptime for the xterminals may suffer, I don't think you can block off RAM as a replacement for a drive and not expect data corruption over a long period of time (months?), but a quick reboot once a week or so would solve that. And, what's it really matter if they need to reboot the xterminal... Really? You think a bunch of grade school kids will never hit the power button by accident anyway?
Very retro idea, ala 1970's UNIX... What's shocking is that any system admin would want to do anything else.
You have a VERY good point, why would anyone want to manage tones of work stations.... Which Mac's and Windows boxes demand... I just don't understand how you turned that around.
I WISH my job was boring enough that I could just sit and read or play with a laptop all day long.....
Hmm.. Maybe for some people, coming home to a wife and kids every night might not be ideal... But... I don't know, I just don't believe they will have a very hard time finding pilots for this, not at all...
Have a look around the web, and you will see that the PalmOS market share is shrinking, and Compaq and Casio are increasing (more so in Europe).