An Android user could respond in the same way to make the android marketplace malware argument non sequitur. Dismissing a browser flaw on the basis that you don't visit malicious sites is obviously pretty silly.
On OS X, System Preference (Mac version of control panel) is "one-click" away, just click once on the Apple icon on the upper right hand corner of your screen and there is there you have the System Preference.
Well then that's the same as Windows, click the Start Menu and there it is, Control Panel. To open System Preferences on OSX or Control Panel on Windows is 2 clicks.
Don't forget throwing in the Zune and Xbox 360 UIs in for good measure. Complete with mystery meat navigation wait I have to hover off to the right to get bar to pop up to do stuff. How intuitive is that you can't even see it.
Safari does that too on inactive tabs, you have to hover over it to find the 'close' button.
In addition to that you get OEMs customizing Android so that comes with a cost also (Sense, MotoBlur, etc...) and you have the additional features that they add (S-Voice for example) that are costing the OEMs money to develop.
Do you really think anyone thinks anyone else is impressed by an iPhone? The kids working at McDonalds have iPhones, millions of people pre-ordered the thing, you're more likely to run into someone that has an iphone (4S i think is the most common in the world?) than any other smartphone out there, it's hardly something you expect anyone to be impressed with.
Because Microsoft is charging Asus a lot of money for Windows RT
It's $85, and unlike Android they don't have costs associated with customizing the software (because they can't). Aside from the larger (but lower resolution) screen the hardware is much the same as the Nexus 7, so the license cost doesn't explain the disparity.
Because there's obviously more to lawsuits than damages. If you'd read the article you'd see RH's case is for copyright infringement and they are requesting a permanent injunction...if that happens then a good 1/2 of TP's products will be off the market, even a temporary injunction would cause serious harm.
Even if Red Hat wins their copyright claim, they could still lose on the patent infringement claim.
Of course, but RH losing the patent suit has relatively little impact on them compared to TP losing the counter-suit. The obvious course of action is for TP to drop their suit in exchange for RH dropping their counter-suit and the two can kiss and make up.
There will always be lemmings willing to pay for shiny bragging rights.
Im not sure how much there is in the way of 'bragging rights', seems you're much more likely to run into someone that has an iPhone than someone that has a Galaxy for example.
I suspect you're too young to remember the deaths that 'Christians' caused after having seen the movie 'Jud Süß'
The film premiered at the Venice Film Festival on September 8, 1940 and received rave reviews, earning the top award.
Yeah i don't think Innocence of Muslims is winning any awards...at least not related to production values anyway:P
I have dropped my caseless iphone 4 and 4s at least 5 times each (yes I am clumsy) without breakage. It is not fragile even with glass on both sides. The main way gorilla glass is broken is a drop on to concrete, even asphalt seems not to do it at hand height. Almost half the people I work with have the iPhone 4 or 4s, out of maybe 10 phones I have seen one broken from a drop. I have had Samsung phones that break on the first drop and Erikson that took only a few drops. None of my Moto's ever broke from droppage.
My iphone4 fell out of an ultralight onto a construction site where it was run over by a steamroller and it was fine, but a cotton-wool ball touched up against my samsung and the screen shattered.
This goes beyond mobile phone ecosystem now. It's the exact same thing that Microsoft was investigated in US for back in late 90s.
And if you look at Apple denying access to it's private APIs to 3rd party developers that's the other major thing Microsoft got in trouble for, so when you look at the smartphone market you can't get away from that anti-competitive behavior and it exists in 90%+ of the market unchallenged because the owners aren't one company therefore won't be charged with anti-trust violations.
NB: i'll put in a caveat that this is assuming this story is true.
EVERY system with Cyanogenmod installed is ALSO running android apps without a license
Wrong, the license covers the device that the apps were distributed with. It's perfectly legal to back up those apps from that device, install CyanogenMod and then restore those apps to that device.
What's bullshit? Pretty sure everything i wrote is correct, happy to concede if you want to point out specifics though.
Just because you have your own private tree of an open source project, doesn't "de-opensource" the project itself.
No, of course not, you're absolutely correct. Naturally some people will take that as an argument to say the project is not open source but of course it goes both ways, saying 'Android is open source' is disingenuous (or at least has been in the past) because - as we saw with Honeycomb - there were closed-source versions distributed so it's best to refer to a version when making comments regarding its openness as the version of 'Android' you have running on your device may not be open source. AOSP hosts all the official open source versions of Android (but not the closed-source ones).
I think the point he is trying to make is that the source available from AOSP is not always the current/latest version of Android, or the work in progress version for that matter (the one partner OEMs get access to). AOSP is just the project from which you can download the source code of versions of Android that Google releases as open source, which may or may not - like in the case of Honeycomb - be the same version as is currently available on devices.
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We were all non-coders once.
Speak for yourself. I was a 0 day coder. Coding from the womb!
If sperm-coder isn't taken i think i need to register it!
Worse? People visit a dozen websites everyday,
Not ones I don't know well...
An Android user could respond in the same way to make the android marketplace malware argument non sequitur. Dismissing a browser flaw on the basis that you don't visit malicious sites is obviously pretty silly.
On OS X, System Preference (Mac version of control panel) is "one-click" away, just click once on the Apple icon on the upper right hand corner of your screen and there is there you have the System Preference.
Well then that's the same as Windows, click the Start Menu and there it is, Control Panel. To open System Preferences on OSX or Control Panel on Windows is 2 clicks.
Pretty sure rm doesn't work in Windows either.
Of course it does, open up Powershell.
Don't forget throwing in the Zune and Xbox 360 UIs in for good measure. Complete with mystery meat navigation wait I have to hover off to the right to get bar to pop up to do stuff. How intuitive is that you can't even see it.
Safari does that too on inactive tabs, you have to hover over it to find the 'close' button.
In addition to that you get OEMs customizing Android so that comes with a cost also (Sense, MotoBlur, etc...) and you have the additional features that they add (S-Voice for example) that are costing the OEMs money to develop.
Do you really think anyone thinks anyone else is impressed by an iPhone? The kids working at McDonalds have iPhones, millions of people pre-ordered the thing, you're more likely to run into someone that has an iphone (4S i think is the most common in the world?) than any other smartphone out there, it's hardly something you expect anyone to be impressed with.
Because Microsoft is charging Asus a lot of money for Windows RT
It's $85, and unlike Android they don't have costs associated with customizing the software (because they can't). Aside from the larger (but lower resolution) screen the hardware is much the same as the Nexus 7, so the license cost doesn't explain the disparity.
Because there's obviously more to lawsuits than damages. If you'd read the article you'd see RH's case is for copyright infringement and they are requesting a permanent injunction...if that happens then a good 1/2 of TP's products will be off the market, even a temporary injunction would cause serious harm.
Even if Red Hat wins their copyright claim, they could still lose on the patent infringement claim.
Of course, but RH losing the patent suit has relatively little impact on them compared to TP losing the counter-suit. The obvious course of action is for TP to drop their suit in exchange for RH dropping their counter-suit and the two can kiss and make up.
Caviar is dead! I can get baked beans for 59c a can!
There will always be lemmings willing to pay for shiny bragging rights.
Im not sure how much there is in the way of 'bragging rights', seems you're much more likely to run into someone that has an iPhone than someone that has a Galaxy for example.
I suspect you're too young to remember the deaths that 'Christians' caused after having seen the movie 'Jud Süß' The film premiered at the Venice Film Festival on September 8, 1940 and received rave reviews, earning the top award.
Yeah i don't think Innocence of Muslims is winning any awards...at least not related to production values anyway :P
Except 'the new ipad' where it was thicker and heavier.
IOW, Apple is bad for making their devices thinner - unless they make them thicker, then that's evil.
What? That doesn't make any sense.
Everything I see about it is rumour and guessing.
Well the latest and greatest version of Safari is 6.x, and that isn't on anything but OSX.
Yes
It would seem your definition of latest and greatest differs from mine given the Post Date: February 12, 2009. Fairly sure Safari on Windows has been canned.
I have dropped my caseless iphone 4 and 4s at least 5 times each (yes I am clumsy) without breakage. It is not fragile even with glass on both sides. The main way gorilla glass is broken is a drop on to concrete, even asphalt seems not to do it at hand height. Almost half the people I work with have the iPhone 4 or 4s, out of maybe 10 phones I have seen one broken from a drop. I have had Samsung phones that break on the first drop and Erikson that took only a few drops. None of my Moto's ever broke from droppage.
My iphone4 fell out of an ultralight onto a construction site where it was run over by a steamroller and it was fine, but a cotton-wool ball touched up against my samsung and the screen shattered.
And the thinner/lighter formula has been just that.
Except 'the new ipad' where it was thicker and heavier.
XP users do have the option to install the latest and greatest Chrome, Firefox, or Safari.
Safari really?
Ladies and gents, we have a shill. A very smart one, but a shill none the less. Modded up by a few other plants, no doubt.
It's a pretty obvious troll...though it seems to have fooled you.
This goes beyond mobile phone ecosystem now. It's the exact same thing that Microsoft was investigated in US for back in late 90s.
And if you look at Apple denying access to it's private APIs to 3rd party developers that's the other major thing Microsoft got in trouble for, so when you look at the smartphone market you can't get away from that anti-competitive behavior and it exists in 90%+ of the market unchallenged because the owners aren't one company therefore won't be charged with anti-trust violations.
NB: i'll put in a caveat that this is assuming this story is true.
EVERY system with Cyanogenmod installed is ALSO running android apps without a license
Wrong, the license covers the device that the apps were distributed with. It's perfectly legal to back up those apps from that device, install CyanogenMod and then restore those apps to that device.
you say cyanogenmod is illegal?
It was until they removed the stock google apps, which you now back up from your device and restore when installing CyanogenMod.
yeah but that's bullshit.
What's bullshit? Pretty sure everything i wrote is correct, happy to concede if you want to point out specifics though.
Just because you have your own private tree of an open source project, doesn't "de-opensource" the project itself.
No, of course not, you're absolutely correct. Naturally some people will take that as an argument to say the project is not open source but of course it goes both ways, saying 'Android is open source' is disingenuous (or at least has been in the past) because - as we saw with Honeycomb - there were closed-source versions distributed so it's best to refer to a version when making comments regarding its openness as the version of 'Android' you have running on your device may not be open source. AOSP hosts all the official open source versions of Android (but not the closed-source ones).
I think the point he is trying to make is that the source available from AOSP is not always the current/latest version of Android, or the work in progress version for that matter (the one partner OEMs get access to). AOSP is just the project from which you can download the source code of versions of Android that Google releases as open source, which may or may not - like in the case of Honeycomb - be the same version as is currently available on devices.