This is akin to buying a 2010 Chevy (under warranty), then finding out that the brakes catch on fire under certain circumstances, and the company's suggestion: buy a 2012.
Your Adobe CS suite is under warranty and they are denying you a fix?
If it's broken, get them to buy something to fix it.
Oh come on, this 'oh Microsoft is just as bad' is the biggest cop-out. In this case it's just a blatant lie, CS5 was released early 2010 and this announcement means they've discontinued support for it, Windows XP was released in 2001 and is still supported now and will be until mid-2014.
Every once in a while I think about getting off the Apple treadmill and buying a commodity PC laptop to run Linux on
How come? Apple laptops are just commodity PC hardware these days anyway, what's the actual issue you have with the Apple laptops? I haven't installed Ubuntu on a mac since my 2007 imac and even then things went pretty smoothly from what i remember.
I was the one that showed you the repository, fucktard.
But your conclusion demonstrated you don't have the faintest idea what it contains because if you actually have a look at the code changes you'll see updates mostly regarding device compatibility, not new exploits, they don't come around that often.
You were pretending to be an expert having consulted Wikipedia.
Nope, just linked to it so you could see the releases more easily and the cross-reference with the code in the repo, but i suppose you didn't do that because you still don't get that 10 months is nothing if you look at the previous times between exploits. Just look at it, it's all there, you even linked to it...so you obviously have no understanding of what you linked to.
Apparently a high UID means you're a 'shill' (seemingly for Microsoft, although that doesn't seem logical) these days, regardless of whether you make a valid point or not, even more so if you agree with someone who also has a high UID.
So I'm spending $1000/year on Google and other companies to thrust unwanted ads in my face (maybe closer to $2000/year if you discount young+old). I don't even pay Apple that much. Calling Google's stuff "free" is a misdirection.
That's ridiculous, unless you're buying the products that are being advertised to you then you are not paying for that advertising at all.
And there you go. I tried to stop you saying something stupid and you did it anyway.
So what was the timeline between vulnerabilites for the releases? Oh that's right you don't know, but don't let facts get in the way of your idiot assertions.
JailBreakMe is a website that could and was updated at any time without a version number change.
Yeah, that's a pretty standard feature of a website. The actual code and the vulnerabilities it exploited weren't regularly updated though, don't believe me? Go and have a look, the source code is all there...if you understand it.
1.0, 2.0, 3.0 were simply marketing. It didn't go from 1.0->2.0-->3.0 without intermediate changes.
And those intermediate changes were not necessarily new vulnerabilities, but then if you were familiar with jailbreakme then you'd know that.
Before you post something stupid, you might want to look at the development history yourself. https://github.com/comex/star_
Before you post something stupid maybe you should read what you're attempting to respond to, here it is again: So i'm guessing you're not familiar with times between versions of Jailbreakme then?
Now if you were familiar with the times between versions of Jailbreakme you'd see they have historically been quite large.
Oracle has never claimed that Google violated its patents (probably because it doesn't hold patents protecting the Java API).
Yes they did, in fact that was the initial basis for this court action. The copyright portion is being resolved first then it moves on to the patent portion of the lawsuit.
It's worth noting that patenting the API would clearly make it patent-encumbered and thus, potentially susceptible to exactly the kind of Shenanigans that Oracle is trying to pull.
Java is quite heavily patent-encumbered.
Of course, if it was patent-encumbered, then the industry would [probably] know about it, and would steer clear, as appropriate.
Well no, that would be silly, because it is patent-encumbered but the GPL status of Java means that GPL implementations - like OpenJDK - get an implicit patent license as well as all downstream projects.
Basically, Oracle is trying to have its cake ("open") and eat it too ("license").
Just because something is open doesn't mean it can't be patent-encumbered, if you understand the patent-specific elements of the GPL this should be quite clear.
Just because they don't make the devices and products based on that R&D doesn't mean it's worthless, R&D divisions (and organizations) - in particular Universities or groups like Xerox PARC - very often develop technology and license it out to companies who are in a position to make use of it rather than implementing it themselves. I saw a thing recently where MS did some work with extremely low latency touchscreens, i don't expect them to go into touchscreen production now but i'd certainly like - and expect - to see that licensed out and used in products from panel manufacturers like Samsung. They make money to pay for the R&D and implementors make money selling products that use the technology.
How do you know that? Nothing stops them reading the source.
Think WINE - implements the Win32 API without the devs ever seeing a single line of Win32 source.
The obvious difference is that Win32 is closed source, Java is not. So WINE developers could not have seen Win32 source where Google's developers most certainly could have seen Java source.
I haven't seen a removable GPU or CPU in a laptop for years (probably since 2005), and even then most of the laptops I've seen the CPU was in the board (going all the way back to an 8088 laptop I have).
I had a late 2006 Dell Inspiron 17 with a removable Geforce 7800 Go, which you could replace with the much higher performance 7800GTX from the equivalent XPS line giving you the same hardware specs and saving yourself about $1500.
It was Italian. Windows running on Italian automotive electrics just seems like the kind of car you'd rent in Hell.
Last thing you want is your brakes to BSOD and your car to decide it needs to reboot after installing updates while you're belting down the autobahn at 200kph! Although if it ran Linux the sound wouldn't work and you'd be constantly rebuilding libengine.so to make it work with the new version of libsteering.so.2.3.2.1. Then again if it came from Apple then putting your hands on the steering wheel would short the electrics and you'd have to drive like this, anything else would result in a 'just don't drive it like that'.
You're going to love Windows 8, it's so similar to what you already know! (Well, except for the GUI and the control panel and system logs and oh wait how do you shut it down...)
The GUI is dissimilar? Sure the start screen is different but as for all the programs i run on Windows 7 they look pretty much identical on Windows 8. The control panel doesn't look any different either - unless you use the 'Metro' control panel, which is a different thing anyway - and i'm not sure what you're thinking is different about the system logs...have you actually used Windows 8?
Can you please elaborate more on how you did this?
Copytrans requires the iTunes dll to synchronize with the device.
Have you had iTunes installed in the past?
It needs the idevice drivers but that doesn't mean you need to install itunes, you can extract them from the itunes installer file. AFAIK CopyTrans even provides a utility to do it for you.
In contrast, I will probably never again sync with my computer. ICloud has completely changed how I deal with my iDevices and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Yes just put it all in the cloud, trust the cloud, the cloud never fails...except all those times 'cloud' providers have failed, like the Danger fiasco, Amazon's huge crash last year, numerous Gmail outages, among many others...and not to mention the iCloud outages. It's monumentally stupid to just solely on 'the cloud' without having your own backup of your data.
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This is akin to buying a 2010 Chevy (under warranty), then finding out that the brakes catch on fire under certain circumstances, and the company's suggestion: buy a 2012.
Your Adobe CS suite is under warranty and they are denying you a fix?
If it's broken, get them to buy something to fix it.
Oh come on, this 'oh Microsoft is just as bad' is the biggest cop-out. In this case it's just a blatant lie, CS5 was released early 2010 and this announcement means they've discontinued support for it, Windows XP was released in 2001 and is still supported now and will be until mid-2014.
Every once in a while I think about getting off the Apple treadmill and buying a commodity PC laptop to run Linux on
How come? Apple laptops are just commodity PC hardware these days anyway, what's the actual issue you have with the Apple laptops? I haven't installed Ubuntu on a mac since my 2007 imac and even then things went pretty smoothly from what i remember.
sorry i meant 'advertised on google', in which case you aren't paying for that advertising at all so you aren't paying for google's services.
I was the one that showed you the repository, fucktard.
But your conclusion demonstrated you don't have the faintest idea what it contains because if you actually have a look at the code changes you'll see updates mostly regarding device compatibility, not new exploits, they don't come around that often.
You were pretending to be an expert having consulted Wikipedia.
Nope, just linked to it so you could see the releases more easily and the cross-reference with the code in the repo, but i suppose you didn't do that because you still don't get that 10 months is nothing if you look at the previous times between exploits. Just look at it, it's all there, you even linked to it...so you obviously have no understanding of what you linked to.
How the hell is this a troll?
Apparently a high UID means you're a 'shill' (seemingly for Microsoft, although that doesn't seem logical) these days, regardless of whether you make a valid point or not, even more so if you agree with someone who also has a high UID.
US annual expenditure on advertising: about $280bil - http://www.galbithink.org/ad-spending.htm US population: about 300mil
So I'm spending $1000/year on Google and other companies to thrust unwanted ads in my face (maybe closer to $2000/year if you discount young+old). I don't even pay Apple that much. Calling Google's stuff "free" is a misdirection.
That's ridiculous, unless you're buying the products that are being advertised to you then you are not paying for that advertising at all.
And there you go. I tried to stop you saying something stupid and you did it anyway.
So what was the timeline between vulnerabilites for the releases? Oh that's right you don't know, but don't let facts get in the way of your idiot assertions.
JailBreakMe is a website that could and was updated at any time without a version number change.
Yeah, that's a pretty standard feature of a website. The actual code and the vulnerabilities it exploited weren't regularly updated though, don't believe me? Go and have a look, the source code is all there...if you understand it.
1.0, 2.0, 3.0 were simply marketing. It didn't go from 1.0->2.0-->3.0 without intermediate changes.
And those intermediate changes were not necessarily new vulnerabilities, but then if you were familiar with jailbreakme then you'd know that.
It's now dead.
Wrong again.
Before you post something stupid, you might want to look at the development history yourself. https://github.com/comex/star_
Before you post something stupid maybe you should read what you're attempting to respond to, here it is again:
So i'm guessing you're not familiar with times between versions of Jailbreakme then?
Now if you were familiar with the times between versions of Jailbreakme you'd see they have historically been quite large.
I see you didn't bother to link to even one of them.
Did you have your head in the sand last month? Heard of Flashback?
Except that the jailbreakers have been quick in the past to find jailbreaks for new versions. 10 months of not finding a way to do it is a long time.
So i'm guessing you're not familiar with times between versions of Jailbreakme then?
The days of being able to jailbreak by visiting a website are long gone.
As in the previously known bug has been fixed, no reason to believe there aren't more that could be exploited.
Oracle has never claimed that Google violated its patents (probably because it doesn't hold patents protecting the Java API).
Yes they did, in fact that was the initial basis for this court action. The copyright portion is being resolved first then it moves on to the patent portion of the lawsuit.
It's worth noting that patenting the API would clearly make it patent-encumbered and thus, potentially susceptible to exactly the kind of Shenanigans that Oracle is trying to pull.
Java is quite heavily patent-encumbered.
Of course, if it was patent-encumbered, then the industry would [probably] know about it, and would steer clear, as appropriate.
Well no, that would be silly, because it is patent-encumbered but the GPL status of Java means that GPL implementations - like OpenJDK - get an implicit patent license as well as all downstream projects.
Basically, Oracle is trying to have its cake ("open") and eat it too ("license").
Just because something is open doesn't mean it can't be patent-encumbered, if you understand the patent-specific elements of the GPL this should be quite clear.
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not hard.
Just because they don't make the devices and products based on that R&D doesn't mean it's worthless, R&D divisions (and organizations) - in particular Universities or groups like Xerox PARC - very often develop technology and license it out to companies who are in a position to make use of it rather than implementing it themselves. I saw a thing recently where MS did some work with extremely low latency touchscreens, i don't expect them to go into touchscreen production now but i'd certainly like - and expect - to see that licensed out and used in products from panel manufacturers like Samsung. They make money to pay for the R&D and implementors make money selling products that use the technology.
Is not what Google did - they only read the API
How do you know that? Nothing stops them reading the source.
Think WINE - implements the Win32 API without the devs ever seeing a single line of Win32 source.
The obvious difference is that Win32 is closed source, Java is not. So WINE developers could not have seen Win32 source where Google's developers most certainly could have seen Java source.
I haven't seen a removable GPU or CPU in a laptop for years (probably since 2005), and even then most of the laptops I've seen the CPU was in the board (going all the way back to an 8088 laptop I have).
I had a late 2006 Dell Inspiron 17 with a removable Geforce 7800 Go, which you could replace with the much higher performance 7800GTX from the equivalent XPS line giving you the same hardware specs and saving yourself about $1500.
Why are we picking on Apple and not the GPU manufacturers here?
Gees what's next? Don't blame poor Apple if the button on your ipad is broken, blame Foxconn!
It was Italian. Windows running on Italian automotive electrics just seems like the kind of car you'd rent in Hell.
Last thing you want is your brakes to BSOD and your car to decide it needs to reboot after installing updates while you're belting down the autobahn at 200kph!
Although if it ran Linux the sound wouldn't work and you'd be constantly rebuilding libengine.so to make it work with the new version of libsteering.so.2.3.2.1.
Then again if it came from Apple then putting your hands on the steering wheel would short the electrics and you'd have to drive like this, anything else would result in a 'just don't drive it like that'.
You're going to love Windows 8, it's so similar to what you already know! (Well, except for the GUI and the control panel and system logs and oh wait how do you shut it down...)
The GUI is dissimilar? Sure the start screen is different but as for all the programs i run on Windows 7 they look pretty much identical on Windows 8. The control panel doesn't look any different either - unless you use the 'Metro' control panel, which is a different thing anyway - and i'm not sure what you're thinking is different about the system logs...have you actually used Windows 8?
Can you please elaborate more on how you did this? Copytrans requires the iTunes dll to synchronize with the device. Have you had iTunes installed in the past?
It needs the idevice drivers but that doesn't mean you need to install itunes, you can extract them from the itunes installer file. AFAIK CopyTrans even provides a utility to do it for you.
In contrast, I will probably never again sync with my computer. ICloud has completely changed how I deal with my iDevices and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Yes just put it all in the cloud, trust the cloud, the cloud never fails...except all those times 'cloud' providers have failed, like the Danger fiasco, Amazon's huge crash last year, numerous Gmail outages, among many others...and not to mention the iCloud outages. It's monumentally stupid to just solely on 'the cloud' without having your own backup of your data.
You can just plug an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch into a Mac or PC and back up absolutely everything without pressing a button.
With WiFi sync you can press a button and do that without even plugging it in.
It's also important for getting content from sources other than the store on there.
Yes, but that is still a tiny minority of people.
Oh come on, people that have music (or any other content) that wasn't bought from iTunes is a 'tiny minority'? I don't think so.
The last paragraph is a dead giveaway.