Soon no doubt it'll be Obj-C only and not C or C++, which according to you would be just fine as, well, Microsoft does it too. By the time your defence of Apple's behaviour is 'Well, they're no more evil than Microsoft', you know they have fallen a long long way.
It's about how their platform is viewed, if it isn't slick and smooth then it loses it's 'cool factor' that obscures it's deficiencies. So soon you won't even be able to use your iphone unless you're sitting in starbucks, sipping a ristretto macchiato, writing your latest screenplay on your macbook while wearing a turtleneck and black-rimmed glasses.
Well what do you define as a good platform for games? And what are you defining as a game?
You don't seem to understand that there are many different types of games, Angry Birds is very different to Nazi Zombies. If all games were like AB then a touchscreen platform like the iphone, ipod touch, nexus one, etc... would be the best platform for games, the fact that it has phone functionality is completely irrelevant, conversely if all games were like NZ then the PC would be the best platform for games. But all games are different so obviously there is no such thing as a 'good platform for games' because not all games are the same.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Phones aren't gaming consoles. Yet they are used as one now. Does that make games a good fit for phones? No, it just means you can do it. I didn't say the games weren't good. I said they aren't a good fit for the medium (which is poorly supported on any non-Windows platform).
But that depends solely on what games you are talking about, many games ARE fit for and even SUPERIOR on that platform. For example Angry Birds, great on a touchscreen phone, would be awful on a console. Conversely Nazi Zombies, great on a console, rubbish on a touchscreen phone. There is no rule that 'games suck on X platform and are great Y platform'.
Yes, iTunes for Windows is a sub-standard app... for the Windows platform.
Then maybe they should get their shit together.
Compared to other Windows apps (which are already not great feats of engineering)
Huh?
Jobs understand very well these downsides are exactly what you get for putting an intermediate layer to help support multi-platforms - the apps will suck except possibly for the primary platform (if any) of the intermediate layer.
So any app that uses an intermediate layer to help cross-platform support sucks? Wow...you really haven't used much software at all have you.
That's one definition, but there are others. These include a company being able to affect the terms and conditions of exchange so that the price of the product is set by the firm, rather than by market forces. The theoretical definition of literally only one supplier is not very relevant in the real world.
Specifics? And what part of which law are you referring to?
Are you seriously telling me that all the courts were wrong to convict Microsoft? Why, if only Microsoft had called on you as their defence, you'd be up there, quoting from the dictionary! Why didn't they think of that?
Microsoft were convicted of violation of anti-trust laws related to their monopoly in the desktop operating system space. Had they not had a monopoly the anti-trust suit would have had no legal standing.
for the love of god everyone buy iphones so Apple has a monopoly in the smartphone market and anti-trust suits can stamp out this stupid anti-competitive behavior!
No it's still true multitasking, in the computing sense, since in the context of computers multitasking is not a hardware-level concept. What you are thinking of is parallel processing.
Yes. That's a very interesting EULA.
Where does it say "You may not modify the software in such a way as to provide the advertised functionality"?
He's probably referring to this:
or cause some loss of functionality
Which, because of:
And you are aware that contracts of adhesion don't give a company carte blanche to interpret it in whatever manner they see fit aren't you?
is why EULAs have virtually no weight legally. And you're absolutely right, the EULA is not a means to for the company to circumvent it's legal responsibilities.
Meanwhile, I was walking down the street with my iPhone, just walkin down the street, minding my own business, just walkin down the street, right? So I was walking down the street, minding my own business, right, and BOOM, two girls jumped out of nowhere and gave me a blowjay.
THAT'S THE POWER OF THE IPHONE.
which of course happened in the virtual world of the new version of iNeedToJustifyThis for the iPhone.
What we are moving towards is a situation where you will buy your content from Apple only, you will not be able to copy it without Apple's consent, you will install no apps that Apple does not like. So DRM will really work. Not only that, but all the content will at last be family friendly and politically correct.
We can only hope, because at that point Apple will get hit so hard with anti-trust suits, it will destroy their whole system of lock-in. The ONLY reason the can get away with it now is they don't have a monopoly.
I'm still on my original Xbox360 (bought about 6 months after it came out). Does that mean that every other user with a dead Xbox is doing something weird or not covered by the TOS?
Hint: an anecdote is not data.
Im still on my first as well, and my PS3 has been repaired - at my expense - for YLOD and Bluray drive because of the shitty warranty, i wish my 360 had've gone instead, at least the 3 year warranty would've covered it.
That said my mate's xbox has RROD'd once and my other mate's PS3 has had the Bluray drive go so YMMV.
Ever have a phone before the new Nokias? EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM NEVER GAVE YOU ROOT, on your own device as well. Ever own a SNES, NEW, Megadrive, etc...
what he means is that it's a sad day when the device manufacturer explicitly prevents (or tries to prevent) you from getting root access, even going so far as to try and classify it as illegal.
I've not had a chance to use one yet, but if it's as open as I've heard, talking about "the" email client doesn't make a great deal of sense. Won't some hackers just write/port a nice email client for it? Or are unofficial add-ons less integrated than Nokia stuff?
He means the provided email client. Yes there are alternatives, my mate got the N900 and it really is a brilliant device./jealousy
and the OLED screen is gorgeous indoors (kind of reflective outside). Still wish it had a pixelqi screen but, ah well. Such is the fate of an early adopter.
What OLED display? I wasn't aware it had one, AFAIK it has a backlit LCD.
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Soon no doubt it'll be Obj-C only and not C or C++, which according to you would be just fine as, well, Microsoft does it too. By the time your defence of Apple's behaviour is 'Well, they're no more evil than Microsoft', you know they have fallen a long long way.
It's about how their platform is viewed, if it isn't slick and smooth then it loses it's 'cool factor' that obscures it's deficiencies. So soon you won't even be able to use your iphone unless you're sitting in starbucks, sipping a ristretto macchiato, writing your latest screenplay on your macbook while wearing a turtleneck and black-rimmed glasses.
I don't use it on OS X, because it does not behave very well on OS X
What do you mean it doesn't behave very well?
Well what do you define as a good platform for games? And what are you defining as a game?
You don't seem to understand that there are many different types of games, Angry Birds is very different to Nazi Zombies. If all games were like AB then a touchscreen platform like the iphone, ipod touch, nexus one, etc... would be the best platform for games, the fact that it has phone functionality is completely irrelevant, conversely if all games were like NZ then the PC would be the best platform for games. But all games are different so obviously there is no such thing as a 'good platform for games' because not all games are the same.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Phones aren't gaming consoles. Yet they are used as one now. Does that make games a good fit for phones? No, it just means you can do it. I didn't say the games weren't good. I said they aren't a good fit for the medium (which is poorly supported on any non-Windows platform).
But that depends solely on what games you are talking about, many games ARE fit for and even SUPERIOR on that platform. For example Angry Birds, great on a touchscreen phone, would be awful on a console. Conversely Nazi Zombies, great on a console, rubbish on a touchscreen phone. There is no rule that 'games suck on X platform and are great Y platform'.
Yes, iTunes for Windows is a sub-standard app... for the Windows platform.
Then maybe they should get their shit together.
Compared to other Windows apps (which are already not great feats of engineering)
Huh?
Jobs understand very well these downsides are exactly what you get for putting an intermediate layer to help support multi-platforms - the apps will suck except possibly for the primary platform (if any) of the intermediate layer.
So any app that uses an intermediate layer to help cross-platform support sucks? Wow...you really haven't used much software at all have you.
It's just common sense that you have to have the platform your tools run on to use the tools.
By that logic you would need an Xbox not a windows PC
Hate to break it to you, but Visual Studio with Xbox SDK does not at all run on the xbox, it runs on Windows.
Just like xcode runs on osx and not the phone.
He was quite obviously being sarcastic, you know, to refute the text he quoted.
That's one definition, but there are others. These include a company being able to affect the terms and conditions of exchange so that the price of the product is set by the firm, rather than by market forces. The theoretical definition of literally only one supplier is not very relevant in the real world.
Specifics? And what part of which law are you referring to?
Are you seriously telling me that all the courts were wrong to convict Microsoft? Why, if only Microsoft had called on you as their defence, you'd be up there, quoting from the dictionary! Why didn't they think of that?
Microsoft were convicted of violation of anti-trust laws related to their monopoly in the desktop operating system space. Had they not had a monopoly the anti-trust suit would have had no legal standing.
just because you disagree and resort to childish name-calling doesn't make him wrong.
for the love of god everyone buy iphones so Apple has a monopoly in the smartphone market and anti-trust suits can stamp out this stupid anti-competitive behavior!
No it's still true multitasking, in the computing sense, since in the context of computers multitasking is not a hardware-level concept. What you are thinking of is parallel processing.
Boohoo. They provide those services on their terms. If you don't accept those terms of service, you don't get to use the service.
The Bluray functionality is not a service.
Mine was pretty similar to yours. Haven't heard back yet.
Because windows lacks proper package management?
Windows has some nice user stuff, but the package management situation is a total joke. Something like aptitude or apt-get or even yum would be huge.
RTFA? A package management system is exactly what he is working on.
Yes. That's a very interesting EULA. Where does it say "You may not modify the software in such a way as to provide the advertised functionality"?
He's probably referring to this:
or cause some loss of functionality
Which, because of:
And you are aware that contracts of adhesion don't give a company carte blanche to interpret it in whatever manner they see fit aren't you?
is why EULAs have virtually no weight legally. And you're absolutely right, the EULA is not a means to for the company to circumvent it's legal responsibilities.
their system helps keeps out crap developers.
Yeah thank god we have Apple making sure we get such great developers creating apps like iFart.
Meanwhile, I was walking down the street with my iPhone, just walkin down the street, minding my own business, just walkin down the street, right? So I was walking down the street, minding my own business, right, and BOOM, two girls jumped out of nowhere and gave me a blowjay.
THAT'S THE POWER OF THE IPHONE.
which of course happened in the virtual world of the new version of iNeedToJustifyThis for the iPhone.
PS3 is a GAME CONSOLE, not a COMPUTER.
Funny how Sony directly contradicts that statement, get your facts right before making stupid statements. Specifically this quote from Phil Harrison:
"The Playstation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC."
What we are moving towards is a situation where you will buy your content from Apple only, you will not be able to copy it without Apple's consent, you will install no apps that Apple does not like. So DRM will really work. Not only that, but all the content will at last be family friendly and politically correct.
We can only hope, because at that point Apple will get hit so hard with anti-trust suits, it will destroy their whole system of lock-in. The ONLY reason the can get away with it now is they don't have a monopoly.
I'm still on my original Xbox360 (bought about 6 months after it came out). Does that mean that every other user with a dead Xbox is doing something weird or not covered by the TOS?
Hint: an anecdote is not data.
Im still on my first as well, and my PS3 has been repaired - at my expense - for YLOD and Bluray drive because of the shitty warranty, i wish my 360 had've gone instead, at least the 3 year warranty would've covered it.
That said my mate's xbox has RROD'd once and my other mate's PS3 has had the Bluray drive go so YMMV.
Are people like you actually for real? I mean do people actually get angry over this? Or is this some weird kind of kabuki?
it's kinda hard to believe there are people so insecure that they actually get angry when people don't agree with their opinion on a product.
Ever have a phone before the new Nokias? EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM NEVER GAVE YOU ROOT, on your own device as well. Ever own a SNES, NEW, Megadrive, etc...
what he means is that it's a sad day when the device manufacturer explicitly prevents (or tries to prevent) you from getting root access, even going so far as to try and classify it as illegal.
I've not had a chance to use one yet, but if it's as open as I've heard, talking about "the" email client doesn't make a great deal of sense. Won't some hackers just write/port a nice email client for it? Or are unofficial add-ons less integrated than Nokia stuff?
He means the provided email client. Yes there are alternatives, my mate got the N900 and it really is a brilliant device. /jealousy
That's not true, my wife's iphone just this past weekend was essentially disabled until she plugged it in to itunes to receive some kind of update.
Shenanigans? I mean what is 'essentially disabled' mean? And what update was it?
and the OLED screen is gorgeous indoors (kind of reflective outside). Still wish it had a pixelqi screen but, ah well. Such is the fate of an early adopter.
What OLED display? I wasn't aware it had one, AFAIK it has a backlit LCD.
That's the life of an 'analyst', it doesn't matter if you're wrong, just so long as you predict something other than what it is expected.