It's kind of hard to get people to patch their servers when so many people are just sitting there on the default IIS web page. These are the people who don't know how to run or patch a web server. These are the people who don't even know they are running a web server.
I can't deny my suspicion that Microsoft will break their own standard. They've done it several times before. Then they just say, "We are a company that listens to its customers. Our customers demanded these new 'features' and we gave it to them!" And no one seems to care that they are the cause of the competition's problems. People just see that Microsoft's is more reliable. Its easy to seem reliable when you control and change the platform you compete on.
So many companies have tried to be friends, or 'partners' with Microsoft. Lets look at Kodak. They spent a year teaming up with Microsoft to develop a digital camera standard for Windows. They think they can work together with Microsoft and gain from it. Then Microsoft includes digital camera software with Windows XP. Software that stays default even after you install Kodak's. Software that requests a fee from Kodak to be listed to send pictures to for printing, and charges a fee to Kodak every time someone sends Kodak their pictures.
The thing is, this is only one of many examples. It is not cool to try to work with Microsoft. They'll just use it to try to crush you and gain money. They won't let anyone else be successful on their platform.
Just think. What kind of software is successful on Windows? Adobe Photoshop, Real Player, AOL, AIM, ICQ. Guess what? They're all going to be competing against bundled (and sometimes bolted) Microsoft software in Windows XP. It's not easy to succeed on a Microsoft platform. Mono at least needs to notice that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is nothing new right? I think its great that I can run java apps in linux and windows.
Oh but wait, Microsoft made sure that never happened. "Lets release our own Microsoft Java, and add 'features' that negate the very reason Java exists." Now they're official 'not supporting' java, and everyone believes it was just some passing language to make internet games.
Just please don't pat Microsoft on the back for a job well done reinventing Java.
Hehe. Good One. Try to start pronouncing it like Moe-no. I think thats how you're supposed to pronounce it. Somone back me up. I just remember them answering why they called it Mono. They said mono is spanish for monkey, and they like monkeys. Mono in spanish is pronounce like moe-no.
I doubt Debian will ship with Opera because they like it better then Mozilla.
I doubt Opera would let them distribute it. Do you even use Debian? Did you even read my post? Debian just keeps a bunch of packages you have to manually install. They have Netscape, Mozilla, Galeon, Encompass, Lynx and Konquerer. And I'm pretty sure the Netscape package is a fake package that downloads it for you because they aren't allowed to distribute it. I'm sure they're not allowed to distribute Opera either. Go be a package maintainer for a fake Opera package. I'm sure they'd love to have it.
It's not like it only comes with 'Debian Explorer' compiled into the kernel. You're post makes no sense, it doesn't even "ship with Mozilla". It's just one of the many free browser packages they distribute.
Oh, and the article reminded me that XP seeks to reduce the quality of MP3's in half (how do they do that? I mean, isn't Winamp Winamp?)
I've read this too. Many references to Microsoft wanted to limit the mp3 bitrate to 56kbps to lean people towards their Windows Audio format or whatever. What I read seemed like they wanted to limit the encoding of mp3s to 56kbps, but not limit the playing of mp3s. I've thought about how the hell they will accomplish this, and thought up some tricky things they could probably do. But it seems like recent things I've read say they are just considering whether to include an mp3 encoder into their Media Player. If they dont, it will be available as a plugin, but either way they will limit it to 56kbps.
I hope any idiot that wants to rip cds to mp3 will be smart enough use a third party program.
So we should probably prohibit shipping Linux Distros with the typical load of applications, because it will hurt innovation. People will use Mozilla, PostgreSQL and Evolution instead of say Opera, Oracle, [name your groupware client here]
There is a rather large difference. First, there is only Microsoft shipping Microsoft Windows XP with Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Windows Media Player and MSN Messenger bolted to the OS. Lets compare that to Debian (among many other third parties) coming with Mozilla, Galeon, and Konquerer on the cd.
Even if some distribution picked certain programs to come preinstalled, they have reasons to chose those programs. They choose them for their features, and if a good competitor emerges, they will consider it. I doubt Microsoft will start shipping with Mozilla because they like it better than IE.
I hate Microsoft with a passion, but stopping them from shipping a product because it might hurt innovation? How the hell do you come to THAT conclusion?
Simple. I'll even quote the article.
"It seems the very design of Windows XP is hardwired to preference Microsoft's applications,"
When an operating system comes preset for certain applications, pretty much everyone using that OS will use those applications. Don't kid yourself, this is what happens. I'll end up on school computers that only have what the OS came with, and they tell me I'm not allowed to download anything. So anyway, when you have a product thats being used by most people, and not because of features, or price, that hurts innovation. Why should Microsoft improve their program? They've already got the market. Why should someone try to compete with a better product? They can't compete with that.
So shipping a product tied with other products surely can hurt innovation. They whole system is set up to keep competition going. Things like that basically kill it. The government is there partly to make sure it keeps going. They can step in when they need to, and if this isn't a good reason to, I don't know what is.
If engineers design bad brakes, they'll get sued when someone receives "damages" from their product. When software manufacturers design bad software, their licensing agreement saves their ass.....
Thats true, and you're probably completely right. But there is also one important difference when dealing with software security. There is always a third person involved. They can say, "Hey, dont blame us. It would have worked if it weren't for those pesky hackers!"
I'm sure you're serious. Look at the security bar in IE. They even give descriptions like "The safest way to browse, but the least functional."
Also, check out setting a custom security level. It gives you a list of features to enable or disable. Apparantly, increasing the security in their security bar is the exact same thing as removing functionality.
Think of Microsoft's solution to Outlook to protect against those 'viruses' like the "I Love You". They came out with a patch to disable receiving files with certains extentions. Like not being able to receive *.exe, *.vbs. It was a long list, but it really shows how Microsoft views security, and what they would do if they shipped their products at their 'highest security level'.
2) That if you distribute the Software in source code form you do so only under this License (i.e. you must include a complete copy of this License with your distribution), and if you distribute the Software solely in object form you only do so under any license that complies with this License.
Oh shit. You guess it. It's viral.
I for one think this is unamerican. This pacman-like license is a cancer that is clearly out to undermine people's intellectual property. We need to have several press conferences about this. We must warn the people!
I saw it at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp or something. It was on tv, and I checked it out, and saw that message. Apparantly MS admits it didnt patch its own servers with its own security patch. How sad.
Also, I kept reloading it, and it was always there, but a friend of mine said he saw an international list of where to get explorer. Heh. So there is another weird thing.
But seriously, how does Microsoft expect to run all of these.NET services and passport authentication when their own servers seem to be hacked on a monthly basis?
Rather strange. I actually saw this today. It was on TV. http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp was displaying the same thing. Either the Chinese are just going crazy releasing a worm, and hacking Microsoft today, or Microsoft forgot to patch one of its own servers with its own security patch.
I don't even think any of their 'loosening' of their OEM license will do anything. I didnt know that they had to put an icon on the desktop and start menu.. thats horrible. How the hell was netscape supposed to compete with that?
But now, after they won their whole audience of users and got like 90% of people on the internet using IE, then they give people the ability to remove the icon on the desktop and in the start menu?! Apparantly even though you can uninstall it in XP, OEM dealers are still required to have it installed. While every other browser is sitting on the internet, and you have to use IE to go download it. No decent OEM dealer will even take off the icon, and I know it'll be there by default when they install windows. Yet people act like its such a big deal and it fixes their past offensives. It wont change a thing. And I wouldn't be surprised if almost every program you download, maybe even Office will required that IE is installed for it to work.
Not to mention Microsoft is going out of its way to tie together Windows with Windows Media Player and MSN Messenger.
Sounds like they're really going to great lengths to fix theirs mistakes!
Am I the only one that thinks true AI machines will never happen?
I'm thinking it might be possible for someone sometime to incorperate a bioligical brian of insects or other animals into a machine. But I really doubt there will ever be man-made AI machines that can think and reason and learn new things. I just don't see it ever happening. I think anything with intellegence will always be biological. I think we will always be stuck with things that seem intellegent with things like voice and photo recognition based on code that will always follow predictable algorithms. But we'll never have true AI.
Yup, you can allow only certain sites to pop up ads too. Very neat.
I also love right clicking on pictures and doing "Block Images from this Server." This feature was broken in 0.9 and 0.9.1 I think, but works again in 0.9.2. I've got a big list of servers built up, and many new pages won't have banner ads. Banner ads are far less annoying, but its nice to turn them off when you don't have much bandwidth.
Slashdot Mirror
What's bizarre is not so much that this website is so successful, but that idiots who frequent it and post can complain about how successful it is.
ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/pre-gnome2/releases
the "GNOME" needs to be capital.
Good luck getting the word out to them.
yeah, I almost put 'competing' in quotes.
I can't deny my suspicion that Microsoft will break their own standard. They've done it several times before. Then they just say, "We are a company that listens to its customers. Our customers demanded these new 'features' and we gave it to them!" And no one seems to care that they are the cause of the competition's problems. People just see that Microsoft's is more reliable. Its easy to seem reliable when you control and change the platform you compete on.
So many companies have tried to be friends, or 'partners' with Microsoft. Lets look at Kodak. They spent a year teaming up with Microsoft to develop a digital camera standard for Windows. They think they can work together with Microsoft and gain from it. Then Microsoft includes digital camera software with Windows XP. Software that stays default even after you install Kodak's. Software that requests a fee from Kodak to be listed to send pictures to for printing, and charges a fee to Kodak every time someone sends Kodak their pictures.
The thing is, this is only one of many examples. It is not cool to try to work with Microsoft. They'll just use it to try to crush you and gain money. They won't let anyone else be successful on their platform.
Just think. What kind of software is successful on Windows? Adobe Photoshop, Real Player, AOL, AIM, ICQ. Guess what? They're all going to be competing against bundled (and sometimes bolted) Microsoft software in Windows XP. It's not easy to succeed on a Microsoft platform. Mono at least needs to notice that.
Oh but wait, Microsoft made sure that never happened. "Lets release our own Microsoft Java, and add 'features' that negate the very reason Java exists." Now they're official 'not supporting' java, and everyone believes it was just some passing language to make internet games.
Just please don't pat Microsoft on the back for a job well done reinventing Java.
I think it was called mono because that is the spanish word for monkey. They like monkeys. Which would mean its even pronounced different.
Ha. Ha. Ha.
Anyway.. It's easy to look like you rock when you control the platform you're competing on.
Hehe. Good One. Try to start pronouncing it like Moe-no. I think thats how you're supposed to pronounce it. Somone back me up. I just remember them answering why they called it Mono. They said mono is spanish for monkey, and they like monkeys. Mono in spanish is pronounce like moe-no.
Oh yeah, and I wanted to point out that they're not exactly giving away copies of WMP8. :)
I doubt Opera would let them distribute it. Do you even use Debian? Did you even read my post? Debian just keeps a bunch of packages you have to manually install. They have Netscape, Mozilla, Galeon, Encompass, Lynx and Konquerer. And I'm pretty sure the Netscape package is a fake package that downloads it for you because they aren't allowed to distribute it. I'm sure they're not allowed to distribute Opera either. Go be a package maintainer for a fake Opera package. I'm sure they'd love to have it.
It's not like it only comes with 'Debian Explorer' compiled into the kernel. You're post makes no sense, it doesn't even "ship with Mozilla". It's just one of the many free browser packages they distribute.
I've read this too. Many references to Microsoft wanted to limit the mp3 bitrate to 56kbps to lean people towards their Windows Audio format or whatever. What I read seemed like they wanted to limit the encoding of mp3s to 56kbps, but not limit the playing of mp3s. I've thought about how the hell they will accomplish this, and thought up some tricky things they could probably do. But it seems like recent things I've read say they are just considering whether to include an mp3 encoder into their Media Player. If they dont, it will be available as a plugin, but either way they will limit it to 56kbps.
I hope any idiot that wants to rip cds to mp3 will be smart enough use a third party program.
There is a rather large difference. First, there is only Microsoft shipping Microsoft Windows XP with Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Windows Media Player and MSN Messenger bolted to the OS. Lets compare that to Debian (among many other third parties) coming with Mozilla, Galeon, and Konquerer on the cd.
Even if some distribution picked certain programs to come preinstalled, they have reasons to chose those programs. They choose them for their features, and if a good competitor emerges, they will consider it. I doubt Microsoft will start shipping with Mozilla because they like it better than IE.
Linux has the fair distribution method down.
Simple. I'll even quote the article.
"It seems the very design of Windows XP is hardwired to preference Microsoft's applications,"
When an operating system comes preset for certain applications, pretty much everyone using that OS will use those applications. Don't kid yourself, this is what happens. I'll end up on school computers that only have what the OS came with, and they tell me I'm not allowed to download anything. So anyway, when you have a product thats being used by most people, and not because of features, or price, that hurts innovation. Why should Microsoft improve their program? They've already got the market. Why should someone try to compete with a better product? They can't compete with that.
So shipping a product tied with other products surely can hurt innovation. They whole system is set up to keep competition going. Things like that basically kill it. The government is there partly to make sure it keeps going. They can step in when they need to, and if this isn't a good reason to, I don't know what is.
Thats true, and you're probably completely right. But there is also one important difference when dealing with software security. There is always a third person involved. They can say, "Hey, dont blame us. It would have worked if it weren't for those pesky hackers!"
Many people will just accept that.
Also, check out setting a custom security level. It gives you a list of features to enable or disable. Apparantly, increasing the security in their security bar is the exact same thing as removing functionality.
Think of Microsoft's solution to Outlook to protect against those 'viruses' like the "I Love You". They came out with a patch to disable receiving files with certains extentions. Like not being able to receive *.exe, *.vbs. It was a long list, but it really shows how Microsoft views security, and what they would do if they shipped their products at their 'highest security level'.
Oh shit. You guess it. It's viral.
I for one think this is unamerican. This pacman-like license is a cancer that is clearly out to undermine people's intellectual property. We need to have several press conferences about this. We must warn the people!
Sound a little familiar?
Also, I kept reloading it, and it was always there, but a friend of mine said he saw an international list of where to get explorer. Heh. So there is another weird thing.
But seriously, how does Microsoft expect to run all of these .NET services and passport authentication when their own servers seem to be hacked on a monthly basis?
Rather strange. I actually saw this today. It was on TV. http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp was displaying the same thing. Either the Chinese are just going crazy releasing a worm, and hacking Microsoft today, or Microsoft forgot to patch one of its own servers with its own security patch.
But now, after they won their whole audience of users and got like 90% of people on the internet using IE, then they give people the ability to remove the icon on the desktop and in the start menu?! Apparantly even though you can uninstall it in XP, OEM dealers are still required to have it installed. While every other browser is sitting on the internet, and you have to use IE to go download it. No decent OEM dealer will even take off the icon, and I know it'll be there by default when they install windows. Yet people act like its such a big deal and it fixes their past offensives. It wont change a thing. And I wouldn't be surprised if almost every program you download, maybe even Office will required that IE is installed for it to work.
Not to mention Microsoft is going out of its way to tie together Windows with Windows Media Player and MSN Messenger.
Sounds like they're really going to great lengths to fix theirs mistakes!
I'm thinking it might be possible for someone sometime to incorperate a bioligical brian of insects or other animals into a machine. But I really doubt there will ever be man-made AI machines that can think and reason and learn new things. I just don't see it ever happening. I think anything with intellegence will always be biological. I think we will always be stuck with things that seem intellegent with things like voice and photo recognition based on code that will always follow predictable algorithms. But we'll never have true AI.
You'd have a hard time proving that.
Or did they just hold down the shift key too long?
I also love right clicking on pictures and doing "Block Images from this Server." This feature was broken in 0.9 and 0.9.1 I think, but works again in 0.9.2. I've got a big list of servers built up, and many new pages won't have banner ads. Banner ads are far less annoying, but its nice to turn them off when you don't have much bandwidth.
Because she's all over me!