Nah.. Im still laughing. The people wont let it happen. As soon as my ISP informs me, Im going to switch ISPs. Im NOT going to be liable.
By the way, I work at an ISP. I saw the huge chaos caused by the blaster and welchia worms. Just think if all those computers started accessing something which automatically charged their account and then Kazaa had a huge bill for the ISP to pay. The ISP isnt going to like this either. They arent going to tell their customers 'oh by the way, were going to start charging you when you access the following:...'. How many people do you think will cancel? How many people will bitch and complain when the ISP tries to bill them and then cancel? Theres absolutely no way they can get that working.. ever.
... but in the future downloads would be automatically detected and a charge added to the monthly internet service provider bill.
hahahha. Sorry, but am I the only one that just completely fell over laughing after reading that? Its NOT going to happen.
1. People wont allow this to happen. Never. Not in a million years. People wont accept an ISP that just charges them for certain things on the internet. People will have the service turned off if possible. Then what? Will the isp stop them from sharing files?
2. They wont be able to organize every internet service provider in the world to accept their charges
3. Open proxies and hacked boxes. When you see people with tens of thousands of botnets of hacked boxes and lists of thousands of open proxies, this billing system wont work.
4. Why should kazaa get money? They arent really providing the networking power or files, the people are. Real p2p networks like gnutella just cut out the middle man and will always be free.
"If VeriSign does not comply with this demand by 6:00 PM PDT on 4 October 2003, ICANN will be forced to take the steps necessary to enforce VeriSign's contractual obligations."
Previously, such queries returned RCODE 3 ("name error"), the negative response defined in the official DNS protocol specification, RFC1035 [4]. VeriSign now returns an IP address for a special server, thereby creating the appearance the requested domain name exists. The special server handles the subsequent requests for application level services, e.g. web, email, etc.
Now take a look at verisign's.com and.net contractural agreement in section C4:
4. Nameserver functional specifications
Nameserver operations for the Registry TLD shall comply with RFC 1034, 1035, and 2182
Of course, Im no lawyer. Any comments on this would be appreciated. It looks pretty clear to me that Verisign isnt meeting their contractural agreements.
I like how Verisign is trying to act like ICANN is acting so rash and irresponsible:
"Without so much as a hearing, ICANN today formally asked us to shut down the Site Finder service."
This is what ICANN is for. This is excellent news! It doesnt matter how many moronic web users are clicking on things when verisign's page comes up or how useful Verisign's market research shows it is. Its important to adhere to standards. Verisign's excuses are hilarious. "Users find it useful. It has nothing to do with the loads of advertising money we get. I swear!". Its always about money.
"If VeriSign does not comply with this demand by 6:00 PM PDT on 4 October 2003, ICANN will be forced to take the steps necessary to enforce VeriSign's contractual obligations."
Previously, such queries returned RCODE 3 ("name error"), the negative response defined in the official DNS protocol specification, RFC1035 [4]. VeriSign now returns an IP address for a special server, thereby creating the appearance the requested domain name exists. The special server handles the subsequent requests for application level services, e.g. web, email, etc.
Now take a look at verisign's.com and.net contractural agreement in section C4:
4. Nameserver functional specifications
Nameserver operations for the Registry TLD shall comply with RFC 1034, 1035, and 2182
Of course, Im no lawyer. Any comments on this would be appreciated. It looks pretty clear to me that Verisign isnt meeting their contractural agreements.
I like how Verisign is trying to act like ICANN is acting so rash and irresponsible:
"Without so much as a hearing, ICANN today formally asked us to shut down the Site Finder service."
This is what ICANN is for. This is excellent news! It doesnt matter how many moronic web users are clicking on things when verisign's page comes up or how useful Verisign's market research shows it is. Its important to adhere to standards. Verisign's excuses are hilarious. "Users find it useful. It has nothing to do with the loads of advertising money we get. I swear!".
Hmm, this is a good point. You people ALMOST understand. I dont understand their logic in "encrypting" these tracks.
Obviously, if i can listen to it, I can copy it. So how can they stop me? You say they're stopping me from "digitally copying" my songs?
This begs the question: Are they providing me with a high quality digital copy of a song?
Nope.
What are my options after buying their cd? Play it in a shitty old analog cd player? Do I have the option of playing a high quality digital copy like I did with my old cds? nope.
Are they preventing me from copying ANYTHING? nope.
They simply arent distributing high quality digital copies and lessening our quality of listening. THATS IT. This has absolutely ZERO effect on copy protection. NONE. They are just giving out shitty copies that are corrupted and since they make sure of a cd's error detection, they damage easier. So instead of anyone having good copies, everyone will have shitty copies, even the people who buy it. Woohoo. Another win for the recording industry!
Now this new cd copies over wma files if you're in windows? I'd have to look at that copy protection and also the quality of the wma files. It obviously wont have the quality of normal cds. Why purchase cds if you dont get the quality?
So to summarize: Does this protect copying? no Does this corrupt the quality of a song before distributing it to people? yes
By the way.. I know for a fact of articles that were written by Microsoft for a large webhosting company. They write an article about how much better Microsoft is, and how much the company enjoys it, and how it was just the solution they were looking for.
They then send the article to the company, to sign off on all the quotes used, before they print it.
The article inclues quotes from the employees, and little graphs showing how windows is better, and just praise how great Microsoft was for their business. When the actual working employees saw a copy of it, they burst our laughing. Of course the entire article was a deal set up by the executives in exchange for unkown benefits. Dont believe a fucking word you read.. its all just corporate propaganda:/
Is it fair to cound the NUMBER of linux "attacks" versus the NUMBER of windows "attacks"?
Shouldnt you compare the percentage of linux servers that get "attacked" to the percentage of windows servers that get "attacked". Thats a little more accurate, but then what does that show? More attackable people use linux? I guess they didnt cound the Blaster worm, or the Welchia worm?
My point is, these numbers are meaningless in a countless number of ways, and should NEVER be used as reasons to why one OS is better than another.. which is exactly whats happening here.. in the article, in these comments. I can barely stand to read the article and cant believe people are taking it seriously and arguing over it. Use whatever the hell you want..
Wow, I've never thought of it before. I remember seeing all of those hyped up "year 2000" shows all throughout the 90's on TV. Many of them predicting the end of the world by the year 2000. They all seemed to have the common theme about global warming causing the polar ice caps to melt, and raising the water level, causing many major cities to be entirely flooded. It seemed pretty realistic to me at the time, and made sense. They melt, the water level rises.. right?
Hmm, this article has got me thinking now. Water is strange in the fact that it actually expands when frozen. Now I remember from physics that a glacier would displace its weight in water. So if you take that amount of water, and freeze it, it gets bigger. And that extra volume is the volume of the glacier that floats. It displaces the same amount of space in the water either way. The water level would stay exactly the same whether its frozen or not!
I guess I shouldnt buy into simple concepts I hear on tv without verifying them myself:/
I personally dont really care about all the junk emails I get. I dont get that many, and I can pretty much tell without looking at them. They go straight to/dev/null.
Spam is such a horrible thing though. I work at a webhosting company. Im the one that has to track down the site with the old formmail.pl, removing 'aol.com' and 'yahoo.com' from the hosts to relay for, trying to find out who the hell added them so I can murder them. Im the one clearing out the mail queue with 100,000 mails. Im the one clearing the mail queues of people who thought it was a good idea to check the 'open relay' option in plesk. Im the one that has to deal with people bitching about how their mail isnt working or didnt get through.
Just the other day, I had a raq2 where someone had apparantly put yahoo.com and excite.com in the hosts to relay for. Yay! Thats what attracted the spammers. Now I get a request every second to send mail to 50 people at once. Now that I've removed them, none of them are getting through. But its a raq2, 133 mhz. It has to go through all 50 addresses and say 'relaying denied' and log it. It cant keep up! syslogd is taking up all the cpu and logging things from hours ago because its behind. Quickly, sendmail quits listening on port 25 (but the spam attempts keep coming somehow).
So I get the idea to block their ips, they seem to be using the same ips. But oh guess what, they're using open proxies and have about 400 ips. Well, I did this for about 5 hours, writing scripts to grab the repeated ips out of the maillog, adding them all to my sendmail access lists. Now every time they try to send mail, it blocks them instead of saying relaying denied 50 times for each request. But a minute later, I get a few new ips and it starts all over again. I have an access list about 6 pages long. Its doing ok, blocking about 90% of them, but every once in a while, they get a new ip and sendmail is brought to a stop.
Oh yeah, and my/var/ partition is only 200MB, 50mb free. And the maillog is growing at about 10mb a day. So now Im babysitting this server every day until the spam attempts stop. I dont think theres any way around it unless I get sendmail to check for open proxies. But I dont know how to do that, and I dont think they trust me enough to make such changes to sendmail.
So oh well, mail is getting lost every day on this server and its been renderred horribly slow for its users.. just because some moron noticed it would send some emails for him and started up his scripts.
Spam causes so many problems on the server level. Its what is making mail an unreliable service. I could care less about spam filters on my mail client. These are the things that make spam evil!
While it's great that Linux has excellent multithreading support, it's a shame, however, that many programmers do not take advantage of multi-threading in their programs.
The problem wasn't fixed in Half-Life...
Heh.. I just wanted to point out that they probably need to port it to linux before they can take advantage of the elite linux multithreading.
Other examples.. I've seen one random picture on a guy's server get linked to from thehun.net. It ended up getting over 2 million requests a day and totally killed his server.
I also like to keep any interesting multimedia files up on a shared directory accessible from apache running on my home computer. Just so any of my friends can browse through and such. Eventually, I got listed on some warez search engines...
RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://(.+\.)*warezsite.com/ [NC] RewriteRule/* http://goatse.cx/ [L,R]
Teehee. I got removed pretty quickly.
In the case of the 1x1 frames on every page... I wonder what would happen if you redirected them back to the origional page, which would have a frame that would redirect them back to the origional page.. I guess browsers probably protect against recursive frames.
You could at least redirect their browsers back to the most resource intensive page or script on the big guy's site, at least doubling his resources while barely using yours. Ah.. sweet justice.
I like someone else's suggestion about frame-busting javascript, that'd be pretty interesting and would definantly get that frame removed right away. I sometimes wish my websites got these kind of attacks, I'd have so much fun:D
I work as tech support for a webhosting company. I see things like this all the time. People tend to think its impossible to block because its not from any one specific ip address, but the requests are coming from all over. People need to learn the awesome power of mod_rewrite.
RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://(.+\.)*bigguysite.com/ [NC] RewriteRule/* - [F]
I've also seen people who had bad domain names pointed at their ips, where you can check the HTTP_HOST. I've seen recursive download programs totally crush webservers, mod_rewrite can check the HTTP_USER_AGENT for that. Of course, download programs could always change the specified user agent, which is I guess where this apache module could come in handy. Good idea..
Slashdot Mirror
wtf are you talking about.. and why are you modded to 5?!
A mirror that thumbnails correctly
Also if anyone cares.. a tarball.
Nah.. Im still laughing. The people wont let it happen. As soon as my ISP informs me, Im going to switch ISPs. Im NOT going to be liable.
...'. How many people do you think will cancel? How many people will bitch and complain when the ISP tries to bill them and then cancel? Theres absolutely no way they can get that working.. ever.
By the way, I work at an ISP. I saw the huge chaos caused by the blaster and welchia worms. Just think if all those computers started accessing something which automatically charged their account and then Kazaa had a huge bill for the ISP to pay. The ISP isnt going to like this either. They arent going to tell their customers 'oh by the way, were going to start charging you when you access the following:
... but in the future downloads would be automatically detected and a charge added to the monthly internet service provider bill.
hahahha. Sorry, but am I the only one that just completely fell over laughing after reading that? Its NOT going to happen.
1. People wont allow this to happen. Never. Not in a million years. People wont accept an ISP that just charges them for certain things on the internet. People will have the service turned off if possible. Then what? Will the isp stop them from sharing files?
2. They wont be able to organize every internet service provider in the world to accept their charges
3. Open proxies and hacked boxes. When you see people with tens of thousands of botnets of hacked boxes and lists of thousands of open proxies, this billing system wont work.
4. Why should kazaa get money? They arent really providing the networking power or files, the people are. Real p2p networks like gnutella just cut out the middle man and will always be free.
bah
Heres one violation that I found.
As noted in the Message from Security and Stability Advisory Committee to ICANN Board:
Now take a look at verisign's
Of course, Im no lawyer. Any comments on this would be appreciated. It looks pretty clear to me that Verisign isnt meeting their contractural agreements.
I like how Verisign is trying to act like ICANN is acting so rash and irresponsible:
This is what ICANN is for. This is excellent news! It doesnt matter how many moronic web users are clicking on things when verisign's page comes up or how useful Verisign's market research shows it is. Its important to adhere to standards. Verisign's excuses are hilarious. "Users find it useful. It has nothing to do with the loads of advertising money we get. I swear!".
Its always about money.
Heres one violation that I found.
As noted in the Message from Security and Stability Advisory Committee to ICANN Board:
Now take a look at verisign's
Of course, Im no lawyer. Any comments on this would be appreciated. It looks pretty clear to me that Verisign isnt meeting their contractural agreements.
I like how Verisign is trying to act like ICANN is acting so rash and irresponsible:
This is what ICANN is for. This is excellent news! It doesnt matter how many moronic web users are clicking on things when verisign's page comes up or how useful Verisign's market research shows it is. Its important to adhere to standards. Verisign's excuses are hilarious. "Users find it useful. It has nothing to do with the loads of advertising money we get. I swear!".
Hmm, this is a good point. You people ALMOST understand. I dont understand their logic in "encrypting" these tracks.
Obviously, if i can listen to it, I can copy it. So how can they stop me? You say they're stopping me from "digitally copying" my songs?
This begs the question:
Are they providing me with a high quality digital copy of a song?
Nope.
What are my options after buying their cd? Play it in a shitty old analog cd player? Do I have the option of playing a high quality digital copy like I did with my old cds? nope.
Are they preventing me from copying ANYTHING?
nope.
They simply arent distributing high quality digital copies and lessening our quality of listening. THATS IT. This has absolutely ZERO effect on copy protection. NONE. They are just giving out shitty copies that are corrupted and since they make sure of a cd's error detection, they damage easier. So instead of anyone having good copies, everyone will have shitty copies, even the people who buy it. Woohoo. Another win for the recording industry!
Now this new cd copies over wma files if you're in windows? I'd have to look at that copy protection and also the quality of the wma files. It obviously wont have the quality of normal cds. Why purchase cds if you dont get the quality?
So to summarize:
Does this protect copying? no
Does this corrupt the quality of a song before distributing it to people? yes
Oh yeah... and we have to praise Microsoft for releasing patches to their bugs?
bahahahhaha
uhg... i need to quit reading this crap
By the way.. I know for a fact of articles that were written by Microsoft for a large webhosting company. They write an article about how much better Microsoft is, and how much the company enjoys it, and how it was just the solution they were looking for.
:/
They then send the article to the company, to sign off on all the quotes used, before they print it.
The article inclues quotes from the employees, and little graphs showing how windows is better, and just praise how great Microsoft was for their business. When the actual working employees saw a copy of it, they burst our laughing. Of course the entire article was a deal set up by the executives in exchange for unkown benefits. Dont believe a fucking word you read.. its all just corporate propaganda
Use what works..
What bothers me is.. they're using numbers. If about 65% of servers are linux, and about 25% are windows.
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http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_surv
Is it fair to cound the NUMBER of linux "attacks" versus the NUMBER of windows "attacks"?
Shouldnt you compare the percentage of linux servers that get "attacked" to the percentage of windows servers that get "attacked". Thats a little more accurate, but then what does that show? More attackable people use linux? I guess they didnt cound the Blaster worm, or the Welchia worm?
My point is, these numbers are meaningless in a countless number of ways, and should NEVER be used as reasons to why one OS is better than another.. which is exactly whats happening here.. in the article, in these comments. I can barely stand to read the article and cant believe people are taking it seriously and arguing over it. Use whatever the hell you want..
Here you go.
Rape my bandwidth.
heh.. i like that reference to a 'real computer' like a G5.
Lets take a look at what pricewatch has to say.
Hmm.. the cheapest G5 I can find is the low low price of $1900!
Now, lets see what kind of PC processor power I can buy with $1900.
Oh look..
$1057 Opteron 246 with cpu, fan
And for only a little more, I can get a dual motherboard, and another cpu at:
$799 - Opteron 246
Yeah... I know how slow gnome goes on the highest end dual opteron processors!!!
Wow, I've never thought of it before. I remember seeing all of those hyped up "year 2000" shows all throughout the 90's on TV. Many of them predicting the end of the world by the year 2000. They all seemed to have the common theme about global warming causing the polar ice caps to melt, and raising the water level, causing many major cities to be entirely flooded. It seemed pretty realistic to me at the time, and made sense. They melt, the water level rises.. right?
:/
Hmm, this article has got me thinking now. Water is strange in the fact that it actually expands when frozen. Now I remember from physics that a glacier would displace its weight in water. So if you take that amount of water, and freeze it, it gets bigger. And that extra volume is the volume of the glacier that floats. It displaces the same amount of space in the water either way. The water level would stay exactly the same whether its frozen or not!
I guess I shouldnt buy into simple concepts I hear on tv without verifying them myself
Here is a mirror of the movie in case it gets slashdotted. http://brain.cx/pinball.avi
I know this whole SCO/Linux thing can be very confusing, so I created this summary page to explain what's going on.
I know this whole SCO/Linux thing can be very confusing, so I created this summary page to explain what's going on.
I know this whole SCO/Linux thing can be very confusing, so I created this summary page to explain what's going on.
A picture is worth a thousand words...
Yeah.. god knows how much effort it takes..
# apt-get install gnome
3 debian
I personally dont really care about all the junk emails I get. I dont get that many, and I can pretty much tell without looking at them. They go straight to /dev/null.
/var/ partition is only 200MB, 50mb free. And the maillog is growing at about 10mb a day. So now Im babysitting this server every day until the spam attempts stop. I dont think theres any way around it unless I get sendmail to check for open proxies. But I dont know how to do that, and I dont think they trust me enough to make such changes to sendmail.
Spam is such a horrible thing though. I work at a webhosting company. Im the one that has to track down the site with the old formmail.pl, removing 'aol.com' and 'yahoo.com' from the hosts to relay for, trying to find out who the hell added them so I can murder them. Im the one clearing out the mail queue with 100,000 mails. Im the one clearing the mail queues of people who thought it was a good idea to check the 'open relay' option in plesk. Im the one that has to deal with people bitching about how their mail isnt working or didnt get through.
Just the other day, I had a raq2 where someone had apparantly put yahoo.com and excite.com in the hosts to relay for. Yay! Thats what attracted the spammers. Now I get a request every second to send mail to 50 people at once. Now that I've removed them, none of them are getting through. But its a raq2, 133 mhz. It has to go through all 50 addresses and say 'relaying denied' and log it. It cant keep up! syslogd is taking up all the cpu and logging things from hours ago because its behind. Quickly, sendmail quits listening on port 25 (but the spam attempts keep coming somehow).
So I get the idea to block their ips, they seem to be using the same ips. But oh guess what, they're using open proxies and have about 400 ips. Well, I did this for about 5 hours, writing scripts to grab the repeated ips out of the maillog, adding them all to my sendmail access lists. Now every time they try to send mail, it blocks them instead of saying relaying denied 50 times for each request. But a minute later, I get a few new ips and it starts all over again. I have an access list about 6 pages long. Its doing ok, blocking about 90% of them, but every once in a while, they get a new ip and sendmail is brought to a stop.
Oh yeah, and my
So oh well, mail is getting lost every day on this server and its been renderred horribly slow for its users.. just because some moron noticed it would send some emails for him and started up his scripts.
Spam causes so many problems on the server level. Its what is making mail an unreliable service. I could care less about spam filters on my mail client. These are the things that make spam evil!
Ah.. a picture is worth a thousand words...
The problem wasn't fixed in Half-Life...
Heh.. I just wanted to point out that they probably need to port it to linux before they can take advantage of the elite linux multithreading.
Other examples.. I've seen one random picture on a guy's server get linked to from thehun.net. It ended up getting over 2 million requests a day and totally killed his server.
/* http://goatse.cx/ [L,R]
:D
I also like to keep any interesting multimedia files up on a shared directory accessible from apache running on my home computer. Just so any of my friends can browse through and such. Eventually, I got listed on some warez search engines...
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://(.+\.)*warezsite.com/ [NC]
RewriteRule
Teehee. I got removed pretty quickly.
In the case of the 1x1 frames on every page... I wonder what would happen if you redirected them back to the origional page, which would have a frame that would redirect them back to the origional page.. I guess browsers probably protect against recursive frames.
You could at least redirect their browsers back to the most resource intensive page or script on the big guy's site, at least doubling his resources while barely using yours. Ah.. sweet justice.
I like someone else's suggestion about frame-busting javascript, that'd be pretty interesting and would definantly get that frame removed right away. I sometimes wish my websites got these kind of attacks, I'd have so much fun
I work as tech support for a webhosting company. I see things like this all the time. People tend to think its impossible to block because its not from any one specific ip address, but the requests are coming from all over. People need to learn the awesome power of mod_rewrite.
/* - [F]
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://(.+\.)*bigguysite.com/ [NC]
RewriteRule
I've also seen people who had bad domain names pointed at their ips, where you can check the HTTP_HOST. I've seen recursive download programs totally crush webservers, mod_rewrite can check the HTTP_USER_AGENT for that. Of course, download programs could always change the specified user agent, which is I guess where this apache module could come in handy. Good idea..
Worker bees can leave
Even drones can fly away
The queen is their slave