This is actually a current modus operandi in mass media in their effort to combat the rising wave of "piracy isn't bad" movements. Find someone who is bad at debating from opposing side, put him against someone who's skilled at debating on their side and them publicize the debate. This is happening across the globe as we speak (I've seen it happen in several EU states as well in various languages, especially in Germany with rise of Pirate Party there).
I think there are two very important things that you're misinformed on:
1. "Content" as studios like to refer to it is actually information. In many cases, information, or lack of access to it can and will be lethal. Great examples include pharmaceutical companies and HIV drugs causing millions of deaths due to initial costs. 2. No one "owns" content. This concept is coined by media because of their interest in it, but they do not in fact legally own information. They own COPYRIGHT to the information only. The difference is of astronomical proportions
Ah, the iphone syndrome. You believe that your product is superior because it's on iphone and list features that actually show that you're wrong. Reminds me of the recent "ah skype, that facetime clone" remark.
UI on navigators is pretty much set in stone, and has been so long ago because in the end, functionality of a navigator is very much similar across applications. Pinch zoom, as with most kinetic scrolling functions is supported on nokia that have appropriate display (obviously not on communicator, which is now over a decade old and monochrome). Not suprising considering that apple is paying nokia about a tenner for every iphone sold for various patents, which among other things include many of the kinetic scrolling implementations. Modern tomtoms, modern nokias and so on do in fact have a capacitive display with multitouch, and by extension support most standard gestures, including pinch zoom.
Locals get robbed less then foreigners. Completely unexpected.
Coming up next: Jews were robbed more then Christians in Europe. You'd never believe it if you didn't hear it here.
Also, Europe remained more dangerous still. Mainly because Europe back then was forests, an forests make a great place for bandits to hide and ambush from. Forest also sustains bandits well with food and water necessary for basic survival. Comparatively, deserts surrounding Mecca and Medina are far, far worse places to make a bandit camp at. Desert, can't really live off it in nearly the same numbers, much less hiding places and so on.
I imagine that is obvious - the free maps for lifetime of the device is one of the major advantages of buying nokia. It's the reason why I will likely not retire my 5230 unless nokia gets on the android bandwagon eventually or the phone dies which considering my experience with them will be in about a decade. WP7 is a show stopper for me in a phone, as it has feature set that is far less then that of 5230's over five year old symbian's, but even the newer symbian^3 phones basically don't get any applications anymore thanks to Elop's "burn symbian's platform" policy. As a result people like me have to basically replace symbian phone with android one while waiting for nokia to (hopefully) to come to its senses.
Actually, phones tend to be even better then dedicated devices due to fast internet for live traffic updates as well as potential additional plug-ins for mapping utilities. Stand alone navigator usually has to be connected to a phone that acts as an internet modem to get live updates over internet if the local radio traffic updates are not available. Several tomtom devices that I've used to date required this when in region with no/spotty RDS/XM traffic info.
The negative is the smaller screen and typically cheaper GPS chip coupled with smaller antenna as well as missing antenna for RDS/XM OTA traffic updates which are usually acquired over internet connection instead, but that is usually because phones use A-GPS in addition to built in GPS antenna to compensate.
I do agree that google maps is woefully insufficient for a person with significant drive guidance needs (and absolute shit for people who like to cycle in new places), but nokia maps, garmin's paid mapping application for android and ios and other similar software which is essentially a stand alone navigator installed on the phone is very good, in many cases better then stand alone device.
Correct, and nokia bought navteq just some time before. However these function as fully independent daughter companies that do the exact same work as they used to.
As a result, tomtom's biggest competitor garmin also uses tele atlas mapping data.
Navteq is the company that provides maps and mapping services. When you hear names like "tomtom", "garmin" and so on, these companies do not actually provide maps. They provide UI shells and minor map modifications but licence actual maps either from navteq or tele atlas (two biggest providers of mapping data in the world). Navteq and tele atlas in turn get their maps from their cartographers, one of whom you just mentioned.
And worlds better because it's maps are far better, fully offline, turn by turn navigation is far better in terms of route optimization, offer bigger monitor and much faster lock on times due to significantly more expensive GPS chipset and bigger antenna.
Dedicated applications on smartphones work quite well, but unless you're using a nokia, these cost significant sums of money and often ask for more money to keep maps up to date. Of course, since you limit it to "iphone/android", nokia is off the table.
Nokia owns one of the biggest mapping companies around, navteq. It has navtec maps with lifetime free upgrades in some really cheap older smartphones, for example nokia 5230. That's full offline maps of entire world with free lifetime upgrades as well as walk and drive tun by turn voiced navigation. You can get that phone used for a couple of dosen EUR nowadays, and it usually comes with a car stand to boot. Then you just set it up and use it as a navigator. Way cheaper then dedicated tomtom navigator, and you don't need to pay anything for maps/map updates like you have with tomtom.
My only complaint with the damn thing is that it's pretty clear that GPS chipset is cheap. Initial lock on takes minutes if you don't use A-GPS and go with internal GPS antenna only.
Bing maps nowadays are nothing but a front end for navteq's maps. As a result, they have very detailed maps as navteq is one of the biggest mapping companies around.
Bing maps became navteq maps after the deal with nokia where MS was forced to adopt some nokia tech for a fee to show nokia it was serious about the long term.
Google maps are not really comparable. They're significantly worse because google isn't a mapping company that existed for a long time.
1. I recommend you talk to a helicopter pilot with experience about Afghanistan. Then try your comparison to Vietnam. He'll laugh you out of the room. 2. Please stop talking about medicine. You are extremely clueless, and your claims are on the level of "well we invented transistor, which pretty much topped off computer sciences" and "nowadays our programming languages are efficient because everything is done in assembler".
You are so out of element, you manage to actually do mistakes of that proportion. For example, "fresh blood" is something we started doing transfusions with long ago. It hasn't been done with it in ages because "fresh blood" is extremely problematic for transfusions for a large number of reasons.
Finally, the 98% survival FOR THOSE ON THE HELICOPTER is likely because of in combat triage. People who were marked to die (black) would simply not be allowed on the helicopter. I've been trained in this, and triaging people into "black" group is one of the harshest things they try to train you for. Also, with advance of modern medicine, MUCH less need to be triaged "black", because many of what used to be a fatal injury and ended left "out of the helicopter" will most certainly be put on the helicopter today. Yet another thing you simply do not understand as a layman.
Having actual army (FDF) field medical training, I call you utterly clueless. The biggest problem in field medicine is the speed of retrieval of victims and path to the hospital as well as equipment and know how of the medic in the field. Satellite navigation and centralized command was waaaay behind back in 70s and 80s, meaning that patients took far longer to get to the hospital. Field medicine kit has undergone significant improvement as well, with far more usable (and importantly, easy to use) gear. Finally we now know a whole lot more about emergency care then what we did 30 years ago (and it's still evolving, even for basic CPR rules).
Then there's the issue of having far better medicine now then we had in 70s and 80s. Invention of antibiotics did not freeze develpment of field medicine, it jumpstarted it, and many of the wounds that would have been fatal in 70s and 80s are treatable with good prognosis now.
Please don't post about stuff you simply have no clue about.
USSR pulled out after it became clear it cannot win the war. NATO is currently in the process of pulling out because it's clear it cannot win the war either.
Bad news. Highway robbery was extremely common in those days, and pilgrims suffered just as much if not more risk travelling through Europe. Essentially risk was a function of distance they had to travel.
You seem to forget to adjust for advancements in medical technology. Else you could argue that WW1 commanders were better at commanding then those in Napolenic times (they were not). Or you could simply notice the invention of antibiotics.
You also blatantly ignore that your comparison is for a war finished vs a war that is ongoing with no end in sight in spite of many claims of contrary.
To constitute crusades as something other then aggression against all locals (muslim, jew, several other local small time religions) is absurd. It's fairly well documented that crusades were, by large "raze, rape and pillage". And if you want to pretend that christians had "the right to do that because these were orignally their lands", can I ask what gave them the right to do the exact same conquering approximately three quarters of century before that, when christianity was exiting the dying Roman empire and spreading across the region?
Hint: "God said so" is not a valid answer, especially since it can be argued that all three religions worship the same God - they just can't agree on who was the most important prophet.
I can't remember what happened exactly (there was a big mess with many companies suing apple on multitouch patents many years ago), but I think they either agreed to license everything, patents expired or got invalidated. Regardless, the tech apple uses for multitouch is essentially the same as everyone else. This was not the case some 7 or so years ago, which is where "apple is the only one with good multitouch trackpad" meme originated. And it was true for a while, long ago.
In essence, this is not unlike saying that "AMD has a shitty floating point efficiency, if you want to play games you need intel". It was true up to and including K6, and then it ceased being true when they released K7.
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Or that more people became criminals of opportunity as they got their hands on the weapons.
This is actually a current modus operandi in mass media in their effort to combat the rising wave of "piracy isn't bad" movements. Find someone who is bad at debating from opposing side, put him against someone who's skilled at debating on their side and them publicize the debate. This is happening across the globe as we speak (I've seen it happen in several EU states as well in various languages, especially in Germany with rise of Pirate Party there).
I think there are two very important things that you're misinformed on:
1. "Content" as studios like to refer to it is actually information. In many cases, information, or lack of access to it can and will be lethal. Great examples include pharmaceutical companies and HIV drugs causing millions of deaths due to initial costs.
2. No one "owns" content. This concept is coined by media because of their interest in it, but they do not in fact legally own information. They own COPYRIGHT to the information only. The difference is of astronomical proportions
Methinks they need some cyberin'...
Listening to Ellison's interview the other day was quite hilariously different from reading this.
Guess we now have "Ellison's distortion field". It only covers the man himself and his close circle.
... do it on a dedicated server farm. Cheaper and more reliable.
Yes, I got the joke.
Ah, the iphone syndrome. You believe that your product is superior because it's on iphone and list features that actually show that you're wrong. Reminds me of the recent "ah skype, that facetime clone" remark.
UI on navigators is pretty much set in stone, and has been so long ago because in the end, functionality of a navigator is very much similar across applications. Pinch zoom, as with most kinetic scrolling functions is supported on nokia that have appropriate display (obviously not on communicator, which is now over a decade old and monochrome). Not suprising considering that apple is paying nokia about a tenner for every iphone sold for various patents, which among other things include many of the kinetic scrolling implementations. Modern tomtoms, modern nokias and so on do in fact have a capacitive display with multitouch, and by extension support most standard gestures, including pinch zoom.
Locals get robbed less then foreigners. Completely unexpected.
Coming up next: Jews were robbed more then Christians in Europe. You'd never believe it if you didn't hear it here.
Also, Europe remained more dangerous still. Mainly because Europe back then was forests, an forests make a great place for bandits to hide and ambush from. Forest also sustains bandits well with food and water necessary for basic survival. Comparatively, deserts surrounding Mecca and Medina are far, far worse places to make a bandit camp at. Desert, can't really live off it in nearly the same numbers, much less hiding places and so on.
Tomtom's biggest competitior in turn is Garmin. Guess who's maps garmin uses?
Fact is, independent daughter companies are often so separate from parent companies in their policies, that owner means very little.
I imagine that is obvious - the free maps for lifetime of the device is one of the major advantages of buying nokia. It's the reason why I will likely not retire my 5230 unless nokia gets on the android bandwagon eventually or the phone dies which considering my experience with them will be in about a decade. WP7 is a show stopper for me in a phone, as it has feature set that is far less then that of 5230's over five year old symbian's, but even the newer symbian^3 phones basically don't get any applications anymore thanks to Elop's "burn symbian's platform" policy. As a result people like me have to basically replace symbian phone with android one while waiting for nokia to (hopefully) to come to its senses.
Actually, phones tend to be even better then dedicated devices due to fast internet for live traffic updates as well as potential additional plug-ins for mapping utilities. Stand alone navigator usually has to be connected to a phone that acts as an internet modem to get live updates over internet if the local radio traffic updates are not available. Several tomtom devices that I've used to date required this when in region with no/spotty RDS/XM traffic info.
The negative is the smaller screen and typically cheaper GPS chip coupled with smaller antenna as well as missing antenna for RDS/XM OTA traffic updates which are usually acquired over internet connection instead, but that is usually because phones use A-GPS in addition to built in GPS antenna to compensate.
I do agree that google maps is woefully insufficient for a person with significant drive guidance needs (and absolute shit for people who like to cycle in new places), but nokia maps, garmin's paid mapping application for android and ios and other similar software which is essentially a stand alone navigator installed on the phone is very good, in many cases better then stand alone device.
Correct, and nokia bought navteq just some time before. However these function as fully independent daughter companies that do the exact same work as they used to.
As a result, tomtom's biggest competitor garmin also uses tele atlas mapping data.
Correct. When their own mapping efforts because good enough, they in fact became the third major cartographer company in the world.
They still lag behind navteq and tele atlas quite badly though.
Navteq uses...
Navteq is the company that provides maps and mapping services. When you hear names like "tomtom", "garmin" and so on, these companies do not actually provide maps. They provide UI shells and minor map modifications but licence actual maps either from navteq or tele atlas (two biggest providers of mapping data in the world). Navteq and tele atlas in turn get their maps from their cartographers, one of whom you just mentioned.
Your problem is likely not with their maps, but with their business model. Tomtom earns money by selling map UPDATES.
And worlds better because it's maps are far better, fully offline, turn by turn navigation is far better in terms of route optimization, offer bigger monitor and much faster lock on times due to significantly more expensive GPS chipset and bigger antenna.
Dedicated applications on smartphones work quite well, but unless you're using a nokia, these cost significant sums of money and often ask for more money to keep maps up to date. Of course, since you limit it to "iphone/android", nokia is off the table.
Nokia owns one of the biggest mapping companies around, navteq. It has navtec maps with lifetime free upgrades in some really cheap older smartphones, for example nokia 5230. That's full offline maps of entire world with free lifetime upgrades as well as walk and drive tun by turn voiced navigation. You can get that phone used for a couple of dosen EUR nowadays, and it usually comes with a car stand to boot. Then you just set it up and use it as a navigator. Way cheaper then dedicated tomtom navigator, and you don't need to pay anything for maps/map updates like you have with tomtom.
My only complaint with the damn thing is that it's pretty clear that GPS chipset is cheap. Initial lock on takes minutes if you don't use A-GPS and go with internal GPS antenna only.
Bing maps nowadays are nothing but a front end for navteq's maps. As a result, they have very detailed maps as navteq is one of the biggest mapping companies around.
Bing maps became navteq maps after the deal with nokia where MS was forced to adopt some nokia tech for a fee to show nokia it was serious about the long term.
Google maps are not really comparable. They're significantly worse because google isn't a mapping company that existed for a long time.
1. I recommend you talk to a helicopter pilot with experience about Afghanistan. Then try your comparison to Vietnam. He'll laugh you out of the room.
2. Please stop talking about medicine. You are extremely clueless, and your claims are on the level of "well we invented transistor, which pretty much topped off computer sciences" and "nowadays our programming languages are efficient because everything is done in assembler".
You are so out of element, you manage to actually do mistakes of that proportion. For example, "fresh blood" is something we started doing transfusions with long ago. It hasn't been done with it in ages because "fresh blood" is extremely problematic for transfusions for a large number of reasons.
Finally, the 98% survival FOR THOSE ON THE HELICOPTER is likely because of in combat triage. People who were marked to die (black) would simply not be allowed on the helicopter. I've been trained in this, and triaging people into "black" group is one of the harshest things they try to train you for.
Also, with advance of modern medicine, MUCH less need to be triaged "black", because many of what used to be a fatal injury and ended left "out of the helicopter" will most certainly be put on the helicopter today. Yet another thing you simply do not understand as a layman.
Having actual army (FDF) field medical training, I call you utterly clueless. The biggest problem in field medicine is the speed of retrieval of victims and path to the hospital as well as equipment and know how of the medic in the field. Satellite navigation and centralized command was waaaay behind back in 70s and 80s, meaning that patients took far longer to get to the hospital. Field medicine kit has undergone significant improvement as well, with far more usable (and importantly, easy to use) gear. Finally we now know a whole lot more about emergency care then what we did 30 years ago (and it's still evolving, even for basic CPR rules).
Then there's the issue of having far better medicine now then we had in 70s and 80s. Invention of antibiotics did not freeze develpment of field medicine, it jumpstarted it, and many of the wounds that would have been fatal in 70s and 80s are treatable with good prognosis now.
Please don't post about stuff you simply have no clue about.
USSR pulled out after it became clear it cannot win the war. NATO is currently in the process of pulling out because it's clear it cannot win the war either.
Bad news. Highway robbery was extremely common in those days, and pilgrims suffered just as much if not more risk travelling through Europe. Essentially risk was a function of distance they had to travel.
It did make for a wonderful excuse however.
You seem to forget to adjust for advancements in medical technology. Else you could argue that WW1 commanders were better at commanding then those in Napolenic times (they were not). Or you could simply notice the invention of antibiotics.
You also blatantly ignore that your comparison is for a war finished vs a war that is ongoing with no end in sight in spite of many claims of contrary.
To constitute crusades as something other then aggression against all locals (muslim, jew, several other local small time religions) is absurd. It's fairly well documented that crusades were, by large "raze, rape and pillage". And if you want to pretend that christians had "the right to do that because these were orignally their lands", can I ask what gave them the right to do the exact same conquering approximately three quarters of century before that, when christianity was exiting the dying Roman empire and spreading across the region?
Hint: "God said so" is not a valid answer, especially since it can be argued that all three religions worship the same God - they just can't agree on who was the most important prophet.
I can't remember what happened exactly (there was a big mess with many companies suing apple on multitouch patents many years ago), but I think they either agreed to license everything, patents expired or got invalidated. Regardless, the tech apple uses for multitouch is essentially the same as everyone else. This was not the case some 7 or so years ago, which is where "apple is the only one with good multitouch trackpad" meme originated. And it was true for a while, long ago.
In essence, this is not unlike saying that "AMD has a shitty floating point efficiency, if you want to play games you need intel". It was true up to and including K6, and then it ceased being true when they released K7.