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Fox News Ties 'Flame' Malware To Angry Birds

eldavojohn writes "The title of this hard-hitting piece of journalism reads 'Powerful 'Flame' cyberweapon tied to popular Angry Birds game,' and opens with, 'The most sophisticated and powerful cyberweapon uncovered to date was written in the LUA computer language, cyber security experts tell Fox News — the same one used to make the incredibly popular Angry Birds game.' The rest of the details that are actually pertinent to the story follow that important message. The graphic for this story? Perhaps a map of Iran, or the LUA logo, or maybe the stereotyped evil hacker in a ski mask? Nope, all Angry Birds. Describing LUA as 'Gamer Code,' Fox for some reason (popularity?) selects Angry Birds from an insanely long list in their article implying guilt-by-shared-development-language. I'm not sure if explaining machine language to them would alleviate the perceived problem or cause them to burn their desktops in the streets and launch a new crusade to protect the children."

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  1. Next up... by jakimfett · · Score: 4, Funny

    It would make a crazy sort of sense, yes? If Angry Birds was actually malware...

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    1. Re:Next up... by SmurfButcher+Bob · · Score: 1

      But... WARCRAFT ADDONS are in LUA also!

      Clearly, the attackers are trying to sneak in things like Recount and Gearscore to see how they compare, FFS!

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    2. Re:Next up... by jakimfett · · Score: 1

      And the Corona SDK makes programmers use ONLY LUA! It's a conspiracy! Igor, get me my tinfoil hat!

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    3. Re:Next up... by Gideon+Wells · · Score: 2

      *Has creepy Hyperion tetraology vibes*

      Both are the larval forms of the Ultimate Malware. Flame is it for machines, Angry Birds for humans/organics. Now, now we just need to watch for reverse-time-traveling pyramids and an obsidian colored homocidal robot called The Shrike. Wait, aren't Shrikes a type of bird?! God damn it, we are so doomed. Clearly Flame and Angry Birds eventually has a love child who travels back in time to kill off the whole universe one person at a time from the beginning.

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    4. Re:Next up... by BenJCarter · · Score: 2

      It would make a crazy sort of sense, yes? If Angry Birds was actually malware...

      Or if Fox News wanted to pick a popular application that a significant portion of the human race has heard of. Nope, it must be because Fox News is STOOOPID.

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    5. Re:Next up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats funny I always think of Fox News is Malware for your brain...

    6. Re:Next up... by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh, sure, if they just wanted to drop the name somewhere in the article as an example of how many popular games and applications use LUA, that would be one thing.

      But this is not that thing.

      The very title of the Fox article is the ever-so-fair-and-balanced:

      Powerful ‘Flame’ cyberweapon tied to popular Angry Birds game

      ...So I'm going to have to go with "Fox News is Stupid" on this one.

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    7. Re:Next up... by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Here's the start of the actual article:

      "The most sophisticated and powerful cyberweapon uncovered to date was written in the LUA computer language, cyber security experts tell Fox News -- the same one used to make the incredibly popular Angry Birds game.

      LUA is favored by game programmers because it’s easy to use and easy to embed. Flame is described as enormously powerful and large, containing some 250,000 lines of code, making it far larger than other such cyberweapons. Yet it was built with gamer code, said Cedric Leighton, a retired Air Force Intelligence officer who now consults in the national security arena.

      “The people who developed the malware found an ingenious way to use a code not part and parcel of a hacker’s normal arsenal, and that made it harder to detect,” he told Fox News.

      It goes on like that. I hate to say anything nice about Fox News, but this is actually a well-written and informative piece of journalism. The problem is the title of the article, which is idiotic and sensationalistic. Given that the article itself is a decent piece of work and the title seems like it was written by someone who likes to stick crayons up their nose, my guess is that the writer did a careful job on the piece and their editor wanted a title that would get people's attention, and changed the title. Of course, given that we're all discussing the article now, a cynic could argue that this was the right call...

    8. Re:Next up... by sudon't · · Score: 1

      It would make a crazy sort of sense, yes? If Angry Birds was actually malware...

      Are you kidding? Angry Birds is malware.

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    9. Re:Next up... by Creepy · · Score: 1

      By well written do you mean their spelling and punctuation are correct? Everything else seems sensationalistic. Lua is used in tools such as Wireshark and Snort as well - these are packet sniffer and counter-intrusion tools - do these tools have any ties to games? Not at all. Making the tie to gaming is like saying any written Visual Basic script is part of Microsoft Windows, even though the scripts have nothing to do with the operating system itself.

    10. Re:Next up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The most sophisticated and powerful cyberweapon uncovered to date was written in the LUA computer language, cyber security experts tell Fox News -- the same one used to make the incredibly popular Angry Birds game.

      It's like writing:

      "The most disgusting and savage death to date was recorded today. The killer used a chainsaw as the tool, the forensics tell Fox News -- the same ones that are used to do the incredibly awsome job of chopping down trees." /facepalm

  2. Red birds by MooseTick · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now we know why those birds are red.They are obviously commies.

    1. Re:Red birds by game+kid · · Score: 1

      Get with the times! They're cybercommies. They perform cyberattacks on the cyberweb with a video game cyberprogramming language. Cyberfilm at eleven.

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    2. Re:Red birds by jakimfett · · Score: 3, Informative

      Every time you kill a pig, somewhere, a cybercommie kills a patriot...

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    3. Re:Red birds by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Funny

      If they're cybercommies, they're probably from cyberia.

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    4. Re:Red birds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i see what you did there

    5. Re:Red birds by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Methinks they need some cyberin'...

    6. Re:Red birds by Niedi · · Score: 1

      But then, in some ways they still have a classic view:
      "Flame is described as enormously powerful and large, containing some 250,000 lines of code, making it far larger than other such cyberweapons." [...] "But this new weapon is twenty times the size of earlier cyberbombs and far more powerful, making it practically an army on its own, said Roel Schouwenberg, a senior security researcher with Kaspersky Labs."

      Wait until they finish the TerraBomb, with it you can overload many a computer simply by copying the WEAPON to the HD. It doesn't even need to be launched (though you might need to copy it once or twice on machines with a larger HD...). Only downside is that the attack takes a considerable amount of time to carry out.

    7. Re:Red birds by demachina · · Score: 1
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    8. Re:Red birds by kdemetter · · Score: 1

      they are red,blue, yellow, black and white. And the enemy is green.

    9. Re:Red birds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're not at war with the Communists anymore, and it only took their viewers 12 or so years to figure that out, so now their windmill is named "socialism."

    10. Re:Red birds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ArcBomb? Wait, that one needs to be launched, otherwise it is the exact same thing.

    11. Re:Red birds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      red is good now. blue is bad.

    12. Re:Red birds by fritsd · · Score: 1

      If they're cybercommies, they're probably from cyberia.

      I say bring on the robot poetry!

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  3. SO related by Tsu-na-mi · · Score: 5, Funny

    So.. Flame is about as related to Angry Birds as Fox News is related to facts then?

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    1. Re:SO related by Hatta · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fox News is written in the same language as the Unabomber Manifesto. Coincidence?

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    2. Re:SO related by jd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe not - the language WAS invented by psychotic warrior tribes (the Angles and Saxons) and then added to by other psychotic warrior tribes (the Norse, the Danes and the Normans).

      Huh. Just thought. Maybe the Normans were psychotic out of confusion - none of them were actually CALLED Norman, they all had French names.

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    3. Re:SO related by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Funny

      I link the Assembly language idea. Scaring all Fox news listeners away from any computer use would help solve a lot of problems.

    4. Re:SO related by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      Next, tell them about the processors in their TV and the entire problem is gone.

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    5. Re:SO related by joocemann · · Score: 1

      Its not like this article is any more inaccurate than any other report they make.

      It's entertainment, not news... which was their own admission, and was agreed upon by the supreme court, re:monsanto posilac.

      Only idiots think its news.

    6. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I link the Assembly language idea. Scaring all Fox news listeners away from any computer use would help solve a lot of problems.

      Y'know, I have to wonder at this point, does Fox News have that many viewers/listeners who are indoctrinated? I have this odd feeling a very disproportionately large amount of their viewers are people looking for a snidely or ironically fun time mocking them.

    7. Re:SO related by reallite · · Score: 1

      There was a post on Full disclosure about this very thing the other day; a user posted: " ..if flame was hidden in angry birds" with a title of "Imagine if..." Possible source for Fox's story?

    8. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You meant CNN or MSNBC, right? I mean, Fox News TROUNCES those hard-left "news organizations" in ratings ... Oh wait, the people that watch Fox News are just idiots, right?

    9. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So.. Flame is about as related to Angry Birds as Fox News is related to facts then?

      That's pretty much it. In the bad old pre-internet days we used to call this hack journalism.

    10. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately my Dad buys into most of the Fox news drivel, spin, and just plain lies. It is really unfortunate when he starts talking about that stuff and harping about "what the Constitution says". So, anecdotally, they do fool some folks.

    11. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they all had French names.

      That's the reason for the psychosis right there.

    12. Re:SO related by hairyfeet · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I know that's why I occasionally go to Fox news or Above top Secret or watch Glenn beck, because watching crazies is funny. Of course I do the same with MSNBC and HuffPo because they are just as batshit, just a different kind of batshit.

      To me the truly crap your pants scary part is that the majority of folks that vote are old and as many know old folks are a hell of a lot more trusting and likely to believe what they see on TV. Hell last poll I saw had nearly 30% of Americans believing that Iraq did 9/11, how many years ago was that bullshit rumor pushed on a couple of networks? it just goes to show that once bullshit gets into people's heads its damned hard to get it out again.

      What was that old saying? Tell a truth, half truth, and a lie and they'll believe all three? Well i think the ultra right and left media prove that you don't even need the truth and half truth parts, just make sure the lies reinforce themselves and conform to the viewers preconceived notions and you're all good to go.

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    13. Re:SO related by C_amiga_fan · · Score: 0

      You think DNC.NBC is any better than Faux News???

      Was Flame Virus Written by Cyberwarriors or Gamers?

      (MSNBC) -- Why would super-secret spy software be written in a video game language? As security researchers continue to unpack the digital mystery that is the Flame virus, that's just one question looming over perhaps the world's most intriguing digital whodunit. With all the talk about Flame being the most powerful, ingenious and stealthy computer virus ever written, some properties of the mysterious malicious software are causing confusion.

      "For one thing, the program takes up 20 megabytes of space on infected machines. That's not stealthy; large files usually indicate sloppy programming. Also, unlike Stuxnet, Flame didn't come with precision targeting, and hasn't yet been credited with doing anything as impressive as hacking nuclear power plant computers. But perhaps most mysterious of all: Part of Flame's code was written in the Lua programming language, a simple language used almost exclusively by video game programmers. Why would a nation-state trying to commit secret espionage toy with video game software? ..... Flame's authors used Lua, something that confuses observers. "Lua in a spy tool is just ... weird," said one Israeli programmer who uses Lua and requested anonymity. "The little snippet I've seen of the code seems so ... ordinary ... really like the work of your average programmer. Stuxnet sounded genius."

      Said another: "Lua is considered a kids language.... All I see around that is built with Lua are games. I mean, the syntax is very simple."

      http://www.kcentv.com/story/18679789/was-flame-virus-written-by

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    14. Re:SO related by camperslo · · Score: 2

      So.. Flame is about as related to Angry Birds as Fox News is related to facts then?

      Fox ought to be in a pickle with some angry bird attorneys, but given a little more time, Fox may be able to reveal a deeper connection proving beyond any doubt that both sets of developers share some common generic code and have either eaten pickles, had parents that ate pickles, or been closely associated with others who have eaten pickles. It's no wonder so many people, especially talk/comedy show hosts, relish the depth of Fox reporting.

    15. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You meant CNN or MSNBC, right? I mean, Fox News TROUNCES those hard-left "news organizations" in ratings

      You know all that proves is that the right has more idiots that believe cable news is real.

    16. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what is called a false equivalence. You are basically arguing that because a guy from MSNBC doesn't want to research something, it's ok for Fox to make up shit and pass it as news. Can you not differentiate between disinterest and lying? Sad.

    17. Re:SO related by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      it is does in fact contract to it's, its is served for possession.

    18. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Only idiots think its news.

      Here's the bad news, the USA is full of voters who are idiots.

      Unless you're one of the real elites at the top, not just a snob, you're not going to benefit from those idiots being/staying idiots.

    19. Re:SO related by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Psychotic? You're going to apply a psychological diagnosis to entire cultures? Isn't that racist?

    20. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As far as 30% of American's thinking that Al Qaeda was founded in Iraq, even I thought that until you pointed out that error just now.

      There is very little discussion about the nationality/origins of Al Qaeda, and Osama Bin Laden. He speaks Arabic, and is from a Middle Eastern nation. More memorable is that immediately after 9/11 we launched a full scale invasion of Iraq. It is simple to assume that we attacked Iraq because Iraq attacked us on 9/11, even though that is clearly not the case. Given that, and the significant amount of media coverage about Al Qaeda's operations in Iraq, and the Taliban's operations in Iraq, during "Operation Iraqi Freedom", the confusion among Americans should be understandable.

      Sure, those that think that Al Qaeda is an Iraqi terrorist organization could look that up on Wikipedia, but they don't doubt the information they have, and haven't been given any conflicting information. So they have no reason to question it. Not to mention the lack of a guarantee that any info on Wikipedia is trustworthy at a given point in time, without following up on references, due to widespread misinformation, and intentional defacings/planting of information.

      Finally, "30% of Americans believing that Iraq did 9/11" could mean:

      30% of Americans believe that Al Qaeda is an Iraqi terrorist organization, and therefore will answer that "Iraq did 9/11". Whereas others that believe that Al Qaeda is an Iraqi terrorist organization, but will not say that "Iraq did 9/11", to avoid confusing simple minded people who would think that means Iraq=Al Qaeda.

      30% of Americans believe that Al Qaeda was the ruling party over Iraq, and Saddam Hussein was a high ranking member of Al Qaeda.

      I find it hard to believe that 70% of Americans do not associate Al Qaeda with Iraq at all. Especially given that Pakistan is an ally of the United States of America. Not a place you expect one of your greatest threats to be found.

    21. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's worse is it looks like O'Donnel starts out by giving him a honest answer when he says the Bilderbergs and other secret societies (the reporter's choice of terminology) don't have that much influence in society. He clearly doesn't want to give them any credence so when the reporter keeps going on about them and the kind of control they have on the world I think O'Donnell starts feeding him a line of BS.

    22. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow you are fucking stupid.

      So all middle eastern nations are the same? No difference between Iraq and Jordan?

      US invaded Iraq in 2003, not immediately after 9/11. I bet you think Afghanistan is a middle eastern country and arabic to boot. Don't you, you fucking moron.

      Al Qaeda never had a presence in Iraq until the US attacked and destabilized it. Saddam was not exactly a Muslim extremist, Christians in Iraq were actually pretty safe pre-US invasion.

      Bin Laden is from Saudi Arabia as are most of the 9/11 attackers.

      The Taliban is not Al Qaeda either and what the fuck do they have to do with Iraq?

      If you find it hard to believe that a majority understands that Iraq and Al Qaeda have nothing to do with each other, it should scare the shit out of you. You just showed how stupid you are.

      I bet you believe Iraq and Afghanistan border each other.

      People like you are the reason the US is in decline.

    23. Re:SO related by joocemann · · Score: 1

      Please forgive my imperfect demeanor when I use a smartphone. I hardly even spellcheck, let alone utilize special characters, else it would be the 5 minute hassle that *this*post has become.

    24. Re:SO related by beep54 · · Score: 1

      I liked it better when they first called it Operation Iraqi Liberation. So much accidental truth to that acronym.

    25. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's a stretch.

      the first two are related.

    26. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stupid? How about uninterested. I don't care to become an expert in the history of terrorist organizations.

      Bin Laden was a fundamentalist extremist, or in other words, a nutjob. I never cared where he was born, I never cared what his language was, nor what his religion was. I never bothered to fact check any of that information, because those facts did not matter. As far as where his base of operations was, and the regions where his organization was most active, I never received any conflicting information, so I never had reason to question the information I had heard. Which was the the larger point of my post.

      So some guy founded a terrorist organization, attacked America, and stirred the pot in Iraq. All we needed to know is what his plans were, and where he was hiding. Those in the military could use that additional information to better anticipate their enemy's moves and motives, but for a non-combatant like myself it doesn't mean a thing to me.

      With my comment about the Taliban in Iraq, well my memory was a little blurred. I have not been following the "War on Terror" very closely, and so the conflict against Al Qaeda sometimes gets blurred with the conflict against the Taliban. I may have confused the actions of the two organizations, but I know they are two separate organizations from separate countries.

      The memory blurring thing also happened with the timespan between Iraqi Freedom, and 9/11. Emotions were still strong, and those emotions is likely what allowed Iraqi Freedom to be conducted to begin with. Two years is not a significant amount of time either, and the war had to move through the government an get approval before it could be declared, which means that there was less time between 9/11 and when the public learned of a planned invasion into Iraq. It was a very short time between these two events.

      As far as the differences between Middle Eastern nations, I don't think that question was needed. Why would one assume that Osama Bin Laden was born in Saudi Arabia? What reason would there be to assume that? Similarities between the words Arabic and Arabia? Also, what reason would there be to assume that Bin Laden was not working out of the "Middle East"? Given that I assumed wrong, what does it really change anyway? I didn't even know he or Al Qaeda existed before 9/11. I did not bother to look up Osama's birth place before posting, and I did not remember in which nation he was born. I didn't care, it really didn't matter to me.

      I do not think that all Arabic nations, or all Middle Eastern nations, or all Asian nations, or all Eastern nations, or all Western nations are the same. I recognize that there are differences. I have not memorized the geopolitcal and social makeups of each individual nation, or memorized a large number of nations around the globe, but I do recognize that each nation is usually unique, and that small groups do not represent the entire nation. I also recognize that most all of humanity wants the same basic things, meaning we are not all that different in the end.

      In the end, how easy is it for the average individual from China, or Japan to distinguish between English speaking individuals. Heck, are Russian's so different that somebody who knows not English nor American, nor Canadian, nor Russian would be able to distinguish between nationalities?

      While the majority of people should understand that Al Qaeda was neither based in, nor largely sponsored by majority of Iraq's citizens or government, it is not entirely correct to state that they have nothing to do with each other. You stated yourself that Al Qaeda had a presence in Iraq during Iraqi Freedom, which at the very least means that al Qaeda has something to do with Iraq.

      Perhaps it is because I live among the 30%, rather than the 70% that I find it hard to believe that the number is so low, or unevenly distributed throughout the country. If I, an occasional Sladot reader, and Wikipedia reader has false information, or misconceptions about an event. Then what is to say that

    27. Re:SO related by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      Quoting somebody else(below)
      >>>Its not like this article is any more inaccurate than any other report they make. It's entertainment, not news...

      This is pretty true of ALL the Cable "news" channels. I have a link where an MSNBC reporter brags that he has no idea what "Bilderberg group" is and has no intention of finding out. In other words, he's proudly admitting he likes to be ignorant. Not much of a reporter.

      And no I am not saying "It's okay that FOX distorts." I'm saying that the other channels are NO better and distorting the news just as often. Remember: NBC was caught editing the Trayvon 911 audio and later had to apologize for it (a mistake they claimed; it was no mistake). They also got caught editing video to make a black guy carrying a gun, look like a white guy carrying a gun (and then reported it was a whole crowd of racists wanting to kill President Obama).

      Sneering MSNBC Anchor:
      "I'm Way Too Lazy" To Research Bilderberg
      http://www.infowars.com/sneering-msnbc-anchor-im-way-too-lazy-to-research-bilderberg/

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    28. Re:SO related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I understand how you might be upset that your first post got modded down by some idiot, but why not reply to the nice reply to that first post? Because as is, the method you chose to "fight back" just makes you look like a 2 year old.

    29. Re:SO related by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      I honestly don't remember writing that, nor even reading the post above it. I must have been randomly typing into the wrong window or something....

  4. 'Stuff that matters' by PenquinCoder · · Score: 1

    Americans will generally only read news articles that are of interest of something pertaining to them or their general situation. Iran issues, to Americans, probably don't mean much of anything. Angry birds on the other hand.... now THAT is the stuff that matters. Nothing more than a poor attempt of Fox to garner page views from readers.

    1. Re:'Stuff that matters' by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      And them getting on the front page of slashdot just proves that it works :(

  5. ffs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Lua is not an acronym. It is a WORD. It even strains on the lua.org website, that Lua is a word meaning moon in Portuguese, not an acronym.
    If it were an acronym it'd stand for "learn ur acronyms".

    1. Re:ffs by jd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not only is it used by gamers and LaTeX (obviously a secret fetishist group), it's got a Foreign Name! That must surely be all the evidence Fox needs!

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    2. Re:ffs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never type 'LUA' on #lua. They will skin you alive.

    3. Re:ffs by Translation+Error · · Score: 1

      Never type 'LUA' on #lua. They will skin you alive.

      Oh, that's just an urban legend!

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    4. Re:ffs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why all the hate? The article just uses a pop culture reference to attract readers who may not be as familiar as slashdot readers? It does not even come close to implying the two are related other than the same language--it is just a fun article that captures readers who may not know much about coding to read something new. You all should be happy to see technology presented so the general public can relate--too few do these days.

    5. Re:ffs by C_amiga_fan · · Score: 0

      You think DNC.NBC is any better than Faux News?!?!?
      Was Flame Virus Written by Cyberwarriors or Gamers?

      (MSNBC) -- Why would super-secret spy software be written in a video game language? As security researchers continue to unpack the digital mystery that is the Flame virus, that's just one question looming over perhaps the world's most intriguing digital whodunit. With all the talk about Flame being the most powerful, ingenious and stealthy computer virus ever written, some properties of the mysterious malicious software are causing confusion.

      "For one thing, the program takes up 20 megabytes of space on infected machines. That's not stealthy; large files usually indicate sloppy programming. Also, unlike Stuxnet, Flame didn't come with precision targeting, and hasn't yet been credited with doing anything as impressive as hacking nuclear power plant computers. But perhaps most mysterious of all: Part of Flame's code was written in the Lua programming language, a simple language used almost exclusively by video game programmers. Why would a nation-state trying to commit secret espionage toy with video game software? ..... Flame's authors used Lua, something that confuses observers. "Lua in a spy tool is just ... weird," said one Israeli programmer who uses Lua and requested anonymity. "The little snippet I've seen of the code seems so ... ordinary ... really like the work of your average programmer. Stuxnet sounded genius."

      Said another: "Lua is considered a kids language.... All I see around that is built with Lua are games. I mean, the syntax is very simple."

      http://www.kcentv.com/story/18679789/was-flame-virus-written-by

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    6. Re:ffs by Guy+Harris · · Score: 2

      Why all the hate? The article just uses a pop culture reference to attract readers who may not be as familiar as slashdot readers? It does not even come close to implying the two are related other than the same language

      The complaint is about the headline. It's not "tied" by anything tighter than "they use the same language"; by that criterion, there's a lot of malware that's "tied" to one of {pick your UN*X, Windows, a lot of the code that runs the phone system, the code that serves up your pr0n, etc.}.

    7. Re:ffs by vsync64 · · Score: 0

      I was hoping for something more dramatic. All I got was on one apparently long-suffering person's ignore list:

      <vsync> Hi all, can I ask a question?
      <vsync> I'm trying to get into hacking and I heard LUA is a good place to start, you can make viruses with it and everything right? I want to be able to pwn some guys giving me trouble in DCC haha
      <Vinnie_win> this bs again?
      <vsync> My only concern is LUA might be too slow being interpreted and all, I heard Stuxnet was like 20 megabits, isn't that too slow to do math and stuff with?
      <Vinnie_win> Your next statement should be a reason why I shouldn't put you on ignore
      <vsync> Um cuz you'll be my first target if you do haha, duh
      <Vinnie_win> vsync: okay, now you've done it. prepare to be...derezzed!
      * Vinnie_win adds vsync to ignore list
      * vsync controls the horizontal and the vertical

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    8. Re:ffs by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      Powerful ‘Flame’ cyberweapon tied to popular Angry Birds game

      So I suppose we all live in some crazy world where this title, explicitly its use of "tied to" doesn't imply a connection?

    9. Re:ffs by Boronx · · Score: 1

      To modern Republicans, Fox News and the like are to be judged by the sanitized story they wish Fox had run rather than the story Fox actually ran.

  6. please tell me it's generational by Frequanaut · · Score: 1

    And fox news will soon fade away as the baby boomers fade away

    1. Re:please tell me it's generational by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wish I could agree with that, but there are plenty of people in my age demographic (25-35) who get all of their talking-points from Fox News. I'm not sure why we eased up on the laws allowing Rupert Murdoch to own media in the U.S., but we pay for it every day in the form of continuing ignorance and whack-job propaganda/conspiracy theories.

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    2. Re:please tell me it's generational by suutar · · Score: 2

      Because he paid a lot of money to a lot of people.

    3. Re:please tell me it's generational by couchslug · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Christianity is the problem, and it's expanding in even more primitive countries which also send immigrants to the US.

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    4. Re:please tell me it's generational by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christianity is the problem,

      Says "couchslug". Nice.

    5. Re:please tell me it's generational by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 3

      as long as there are 'young republicans' (and, sadly, there are) then there will be faux news, telling it how they want to hear it.

      blame the churches and religion. they keep feeding the republicans more and more new blood.

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    6. Re:please tell me it's generational by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      >>>why we eased up on the laws allowing Rupert Murdoch to own media in the U.S.

      Probably the FCC doesn't have any control over any media except Broadcast TV. That means cable tv and newspapers are laissez faire and largely unregulated. In theory the FCC could force Rupert to give-up FOX Broadcast, but none of his other properties.

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    7. Re:please tell me it's generational by cpu6502 · · Score: 0

      >>>as long as there are 'young republicans' (and, sadly, there are) then there will be faux news

      Most of the young republicans I've met lately don't watch any of the cable channels. Not ZzzzNN or DNCnbc or Faux News. They watch RT News and other online sources (so-called alternative media).

      BTW the headline sucks.
      But if you read the actual article, the reporter is making the point that Lua has never been used to write malware before. That it's an unusual choice... or so claims the Retired Colonel she is quoting.

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    8. Re:please tell me it's generational by couchslug · · Score: 1

      Hi APK!

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    9. Re:please tell me it's generational by couchslug · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Your faith in your Sky Fairie is so weak that you mod me down instead of PROVING he/she/it exists and ending all debate.

      As I expected.

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    10. Re:please tell me it's generational by skids · · Score: 2

      Nope, not generational. A majority of people are very easily swayed by persistent propaganda. They may figure out what their own interests are in their 30s, but under constant pressure they will eventually wear down and become scared and confused and angry at their lot in life. They will allow themselves to get roped into an "us versus them" mentality where the person with the largest bank-roll gets to decide who the "them" is (and there need not even be a real "them.") And research into human psychology advances and makes well financed advertising campaigns even more effective as time goes on.

      By the time the recently resurrected racist element loses its steam, there will be a new bogeyman. The fools of the future will probably not look anything like the current republican base (for one, they won't be white), but what they believe won't matter so much as their maleability as political puppets.

      (Oh yeah, and to rub salt in the wound, everyone who had the mental capacity to worry about man's effect on the planet and abstain from reproduction will have completely failed to produce any offspring with similar abilities, we'll have only a small gaggle of adoptees to carry that load.)

    11. Re:please tell me it's generational by jackbird · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on, it wasn't that many people.

  7. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Misleading Fox News Titles are Misleading.

    1. Re:Anonymous Coward by ZeroSumHappiness · · Score: 1

      FOXNews At 11: Misleading FOXNews Titles are Accurate?

  8. News Corp making a play for Rovio? by rk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously, some people should be banned for life from writing tech stories. That's somewhat akin to saying the Queen of England is tied to a kidnapping because the ransom note was written in English.

    1. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      change it to the King, and then you have yourself a deal!

    2. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 1

      Seriously, some people should be banned for life from writing stories.

      fixed it for you

    3. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by almitydave · · Score: 4, Funny

      ... or "BMW 3-Series tied to Nazi death camps" ... or "Nuclear testing tied to Fukushima disaster" ... or "President Obama tied to Florida cannibal"

      It's almost like a game, find the most outrageous thing you can tie to the most popular innocent sounding thing, using the most superficial of reasons.

      "Killer Physics: Gyroscopic Effect Tied to All Motorcycle Fatalities!"

      I'm not even all that creative, I'm sure others can do better.

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    4. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, some people should be banned for life from writing tech stories.

      Nah, just send their stories to The Onion.

    5. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by tool462 · · Score: 2

      I don't see the Queen denying it. Do you? If she isn't an accomplice, why doesn't she just come out and say so???

    6. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by im3w1l · · Score: 2

      "Killer Physics: Gyroscopic Effect Tied to All Motorcycle Fatalities!" this is like saying that angry birds is related to LUA. We should instead focus on other products that also use the gyroscopic effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyroscope#Modern_uses "iPhone 4 tied to motorcycle fatalities"

    7. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by jd · · Score: 1

      Seriously, some people should be banned from life for writing stories.

      FIFY.

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    8. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, the first thought I had when I first read about Flame (http://www.securelist.com/en/blog/208193522/The_Flame_Questions_and_Answers) was, "I bet it's a game developer or a former game developer." I think game developers are the only software developers, as a group, that use Lua extensively. I'm not saying it isn't used for other things, but I've rarely run across Lua outside of game development (I was in the industry for about 5 years before calling it quits). I would say it's highly probable a former game developer is involved. That also suggests a small number of nations which might have organized the effort (the United States being, arguably, chief among them). Of course, this is all pure speculation on my part.

      Ultimately, the point I am trying to make is that I understand the point the article is trying to make, though I will agree it was done in a very poor fashion.

    9. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by mooingyak · · Score: 4, Funny

      "President Obama tied to Florida cannibal"

      Somehow I can't help but read this one literally.

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    10. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Seriously, some people should be banned from life.

      FIFY

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    11. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "President Obama tied to Florida cannibal"

      It's almost like a game, find the most outrageous thing you can tie to the most popular innocent sounding thing

      I didn't realize Florida cannibals were so popular

    12. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Actually, BMW was one of the third reich's major defense contractors and produced most of the airplane engines used by the Luftwaffe. The little cross logo is actually supposed to be a spinning propeller. They also used slave labor from a number of the concentration camps, particularly Dachau. By the end of the war, more than half of BMW's workforce was concentration camp prisoners.

    13. Re:News Corp making a play for Rovio? by xheliox · · Score: 1

      This person is the "Fox News Chief Intelligence Correspondent" -- as far as I can tell, she's a long, long, long way from 'intelligence'. This story, especially the headline is sensationalistic tripe. Fox News has said and done a lot of dumb things, but this is really takes the cake. Disgraceful.

  9. Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a much more compact way to summarize this story:

    "The submitter has a hard-on for Fox News"

    Much clearer, compact, and concise, and contains just as much relevant information.

    1. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what I took from it too.

      Or

      Soulskill has way too much time.

    2. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah... "I don't know WHY they'd choose Angry Birds out of ALL the games written in Lua."

      Maybe because it's probably the most readily recognizable and therefore immediately RELATABLE game that people know about? Eldavojohn usually seems to put some thought into his comments around here, but he might as well have just written "I WANT TO MAKE FUN OF FOX NEWS TONIGHT."

      Other news outlets have reported Flame's relation to "Angry Birds" because it's written in Lua as well, but why talk about the general ignorance of news outlets when it comes to malware and security when we can use this as yet another excuse to single out ONE news outlet that's popular to hate on!?

      https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q="Angry+Birds"+Flame

    3. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would also be the first game in Wikipedia's alphabetical list of games using Lua as a scripting language that whoever was writing the story recognized.

  10. Spell the language correctly by Necroman · · Score: 1

    Even on Lua's site (which Fox links to), they have a section explaining how to spell and pronounce the name.

    Please do not write it as "LUA", which is both ugly and confusing, because then it becomes an acronym with different meanings for different people. So, please, write "Lua" right!

    You think they'd at least get that part right (when they link to the website).

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    1. Re:Spell the language correctly by suutar · · Score: 3

      That would involve actually reading the website. Based on the tenuosity of the connection, I don't think they could handle that.

    2. Re:Spell the language correctly by wiedzmin · · Score: 2

      You think they'd at least get that part right (when they link to the website).

      Linking to things and reading them are two entirely different things. Especially on Slashdot.

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    3. Re:Spell the language correctly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That would involve actually reading the website.

      Today I learned that people who write at Fox News failed to do exactly what most people on /. fail to do!

    4. Re:Spell the language correctly by chrismcb · · Score: 1

      WHY CAN'T I WRITE IT AS LUA?

  11. Fox is related to Terrorism by whisper_jeff · · Score: 4, Funny

    This just in - Fox News is related to Terrorism in that both use the english language to communicate.

    See what I did there Fox? Yeah. We saw what you did there too.

    1. Re:Fox is related to Terrorism by identity0 · · Score: 1

      Sadly, people who watch Fox News likely do think that way about human languages like Arabic or Persian.

      People just see 'that squiggly terrorist-speak' and freak out.

    2. Re:Fox is related to Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Link Found Between FoxNews And Faked Stories

      Investigators have discovered that FoxNews reports are written using the same language as the fake stories written by discredited NYTimes reporter Jayson Blair. In fact, anecdotal evidence suggests that most news stories written for the US market are in fact written using the same language and similar editorial criteria, and that the average US reader continues to carelessly read and trust these news sources despite the clear link to false, inaccurate, incomplete, and/or misleading reports written by these same news sources when using this language targeted at the US reader. Investigators expect that this report will have little impact on the trend.

      * posted as AC since I've already moderated some comments on this article.

  12. Yeah, and? by Hartree · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Washington Post wrote a similar piece yesterday that I read. Headline was less direct but linked it in the first paragraph.

    As did a number of other sources.

    So, how does this apply only to Fox?

    1. Re:Yeah, and? by XeroSine · · Score: 2

      Because people will bitch about anything they don't like and blow it out of proportions just because. Fox news, in most cases, has about as much relevant info as MSNBC and CNN....this is why i only get my news from sources outside the mainstream media....you know, BBC and associated press.

    2. Re:Yeah, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/flame-cyberweapon-written-using-gamer-code-report-says/2012/05/31/gJQAkIB83U_story.html is the story, I believe...but it simply reports that "Fox News reports" meaning it was originally Fox. Also, I find the Washington Post article much less insane than the Fox one.

    3. Re:Yeah, and? by samoanbiscuit · · Score: 1

      Because the Fox article seems to be the most retarded one of the bunch. Most other news sites mention the "gamer code of lua" or was that "LUA" in passing. The Fix article makes it one of the main points. This is what happens when they get too used to publishing opinions.

    4. Re:Yeah, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes for bbc, no for AP. if you really wanna get the full view, include russia today and CCCTV. Although they run slanted pieces like everyone else, they are usually so obvious you can immediatly discredit them.

    5. Re:Yeah, and? by EvanED · · Score: 2

      The Fox article was spot on, at least when I saw it, in comparison to MSNBC's piece-of-shit excuse for an article.

      I'd link it but I don't want to give them the traffic. (The title was "Was Flame virus written by cyberwarriors or gamers?" if that gives you any idea.)

    6. Re:Yeah, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Translation: "Anything that doesn't strike me as immediately slanted is slanted towards a conclusion I agree with."

      Ah, the magic of confirmation bias!

    7. Re:Yeah, and? by sneakyimp · · Score: 1

      How about giving us a link so we can make some kind of comparison?

    8. Re:Yeah, and? by Mashiki · · Score: 0

      So, how does this apply only to Fox?

      Simple, the vast majority of people on /. lean left these days. These same people can't think coherently when it comes to Fox. Therefore anything relating to Fox drives them insane. Perhaps they should just go back to taking anti-psychotics or something?

      I'll have to remember this story for future reference, so that the bastions of MSNBC, ABC, and CBS do something stupid, I can simply point back. I'd add CNN but considering they're about to collapse, no need to really worry.

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    9. Re:Yeah, and? by Hartree · · Score: 1

      The AC who replied before you linked to it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/flame-cyberweapon-written-using-gamer-code-report-says/2012/05/31/gJQAkIB83U_story.html

      Mea culpa, I missed the "Fox reported" in it, but still.

      When I first heard Angry Birds linked to it was on The Register well before the MSM even had it on radar. This was on Tuesday. Here's the URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/29/flame_cyberweapon_analysis/

      Note that their subtitle on it is: "But it shares same scripting tech as Angry Birds"

      As linked in another of the comments, the lua and gaming link was done by MSNBC as well. http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/30/11962850-was-flame-virus-written-by-cyberwarriors-or-gamers?lite

      None of that is really suprising. Its an area where most of the general populace don't have a lot of existing knowledge or experience to link it to. Angry Birds is very well known and kind of a seeming irony to be written in the same language.

      My point is largely that with all of the things Fox can be criticized for, this is pretty small beer.

    10. Re:Yeah, and? by Hartree · · Score: 2

      I tend to follow a pretty broad array of sources.

      One key is to remember what the slant of the site you're reading is and adjust accordingly.

      Example: Xinhua (Chinese news agency) does a lot of reporting on economic development in southeast asia that doesn't get picked up by most western sources and it's usually fairly good info. However, I take what they say about the Dalai Lama or Falun Gong, for example, with a rather large grain of salt. ;)

    11. Re:Yeah, and? by cpu6502 · · Score: 2

      >>>you know, BBC and associated press.

      The BBC was just caught doctoring a ~5 year old Iraqi photo of child-aged corpses, in order to make that claim that Syrian children had *just* been killed in a massacre. So..... you can't trust BBC either. They too manufacture/distort their reporting.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9293620/BBC-News-uses-Iraq-photo-to-illustrate-Syrian-massacre.html

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    12. Re:Yeah, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simple, the vast majority of people on /. lean left these days.

      You think you can just quote some bullshit fact and have it be true? You must also believe 2+2=5 and freedom=slavery.

    13. Re:Yeah, and? by Hartree · · Score: 1

      No, 2+2 equals swordfish.

      We just have to all agree on the value of swordfish.

    14. Re:Yeah, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fox reporters and viewers need their anti-psychotics to clear their minds of the invisible-man-in-the-sky delusion.

    15. Re:Yeah, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because Fox "News" is much more guilty than most of misleading their audience, of misrepresenting the facts, of deliberately publishing falsehoods, of having the most misinformed listeners/watchers compared to other media outlets. That's why.

    16. Re:Yeah, and? by black3d · · Score: 1

      People will end up watching whatever suits their personal biases. I find RT incredibly biased. Any given story/subject matter, I can tell you before it comes on how RT will report it. Of course, like you say, the same is true of everyone else, and Fox is the most obvious of all.

      The problem with stations like RT/Fox, etc, isn't that there are incredibly obvious biased stories - that one finds certain stories are obviously slanted and can so discredit them isn't a valid excuse. Simply, because, any stories which they largely agree with and feed into their bias, they won't recognize as being biased even if they are. RT is very anti-Israel, for example. If a viewer is also anti-Israel, they won't recognize that bias on the stories, and don't realize they're only getting half the story or less. Arutz-7 is very anti-Palestine, and likewise, vice versa.

      I think the only way to get a true picture is unfortunately to watch most of the majors, and BBC, and draw your own conclusions. Unless you're experiencing events first-hand, this is the best we can really do.

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    17. Re:Yeah, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Biased much? "The BBC was just caught doctoring"? The fine article from the Telegraph doesn't even try to claim the BBC doctored the photo (perhaps because that would be libel). The article reports the BBC used a photo that happened to have been one taken in Iraq in 2003 for an article on a massacre in Syria, the BBC put it up with a note that it hadn't been independently verified, that doesn't mean the BBC doctored it, but it implies someone provided them with the photo and they didn't check it before putting it up. So to be clear, the BBC fucked up by failing to check the authenticity of a photo before using it (but they effectively said it was unverified in the caption under the photo), which does highlight that the BBC aren't perfect and you do need to be careful even when reading news from the BBC. But that doesn't mean BBC news aren't still miles better than most American "news" outlets.

    18. Re:Yeah, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2+2 equals swordfish?

      Does that mean these hackers are writing their code while getting a blowjob from Halle Berry?

    19. Re:Yeah, and? by Hartree · · Score: 1

      There are a lot of hackers who've had that fantasy about Halle Berry.

      (Actually, it's from a webcomic, DMFA at http://missmab.com/ . It became a minor meme among its fans.)

    20. Re:Yeah, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about giving us a link so we can make some kind of comparison?

      How about you quit asking everybody else to do everything for you? Do you need us to hold your hand while you piss? Fuck it, whatever, here you go:
      http://www.google.com/search?q=Washington+Post+Flame

    21. Re:Yeah, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Therefore anything relating to Fox drives them insane.

      Have you actually tried watching that pile of shit? They're pretty short on facts, the only thing shorter seems to be the skirts they put on the blonde bimbos who (poorly) read from the teleprompter.
      I'm not defending the other clown networks, but Fox is especially bad in comparison to them. The other networks seem to still at least try to pretend they aren't biased, slanted, and intentional deceptive, Fox doesn't even try hiding it any more.

    22. Re:Yeah, and? by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      The BBC doctored the photo by overlaying it with the captain "From Syria, showing the aftermath of a massacre". That's no different then when NBC played the Trayvon 911 audio, but misled us by shortening it 20 seconds. It's called *propaganda* dumbass..... deliberately misleasding thhe public with lies and false facts. BUT that's fine... you just keep naivley watching the BBC, beleiving they are not justa s dishoenst and untruthufln as any toehr fuckign reproters.

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    23. Re:Yeah, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The BBC doctored the photo by overlaying it with the captain "From Syria, showing the aftermath of a massacre".

      Wow, your cognitive dissonance must be very strong. Because the caption that I'm seeing on your link reads "this image - which cannot be independently verified - is believed to show the bodies of children in Houla awaiting burial."

      you just keep naivley watching the BBC, beleiving they are not justa s dishoenst and untruthufln as any toehr fuckign reproters.

      What part of "you do need to be careful even when reading news from the BBC" did you not understand?

  13. more dismayed than shocked by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    I guess were witnessing reality news for the masses. If there wasn't an audience for fox news,they'd been gone long ago. I know from standing in the grocery lines however that National Enquirer draws its own crowd of gullible lamers. Fox news has basically capitalized on that but in real-time.

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    1. Re:more dismayed than shocked by jd · · Score: 1

      Famed sci-fi author Nigel Kneale wrote a screenplay about reality TV back in 1968. Yes, it is available to watch. I won't say Fox is the only guilty party - all broadcasters are guilty, even the Cartoon Channel and that should be logically impossible - but that doesn't mean it's any less stupid.

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  14. Lua not LUA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    http://www.lua.org/about.html#name

  15. Fox News by JustAnotherIdiot · · Score: 1

    I stopped reading before I even finished the title.
    I'm assuming even the biggest idiots on this site (like myself) know better than to listen to anything that spews from that "news" site.

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    1. Re:Fox News by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

      Well *I* can't watch Fox News, it makes me want to puke. Stupid propaganda.
      Except Shep Smith maybe.

    2. Re:Fox News by Jonner · · Score: 1

      I stopped reading before I even finished the title.

      I'm assuming even the biggest idiots on this site (like myself) know better than to listen to anything that spews from that "news" site.

      That's really fair and balanced of you. I eagerly await your list of approved news sources as I wouldn't want to be biased.

    3. Re:Fox News by JustAnotherIdiot · · Score: 1

      There's no such thing as a good news source these days, but that doesn't mean I won't call out morons like Fox on their BS.

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  16. Well, of Course... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Angry Birds is obviously an evil socialist liberal attack on conservative American values! Look at it: Liberal bird brains get pissed when they lose their nest egg to wealthy conservatives, done up as pigs in an obvious ad hominem attack, when they slack off on the job. They then conspire to fly into the "pigs" buildings, bringing them crashing down on their poor heads. This is just more proof that liberals are really a bunch of terrorist sympathizers! /sarcasm

    It's funny laugh! Please, laugh? Why are you all looking at me that way?!?

    1. Re:Well, of Course... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ANGRY BIRDS DID 9/11

  17. Flip the script by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a few tech-saavy friends who are fox viewers that don't believe fox news has an insane conservative slant (being conservatives themselves, they just dont see it).

    Big grin on my face as I forward this to them ... it's only a slim 0.1% chance that they'll "get it" but .. still .. a chance ..

  18. And don't get me started on World of Warcraft! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    So they "tied" it to something popular to get millions of peeps on ads.

    What's the beef? A few years back CNN ran an article soon after the huge tsunami in Asia that sea rises due to global warming "would be like the tsunami zomg!!!" In the fine print a scientist said there could be a 30 foot sea rise, the same height as the tsunami wave, over the course of 100-300 years.

    Ad people are jackasses.

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  19. This just in... by Kindgott · · Score: 1

    This just in, Fox News is produced using video cameras, the same technology used by terrorists to create beheading videos!

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  20. To be fair... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unlike the geeks and techno-junkies here...95% of the American viewing public has no clue what malware is. Fox did what all broadcast news does...they related a story to something the people could understand.
    Slashdot opinions do the same thing with all the car analogies.

    Maybe if the average American IQ was higher than a half-full glass of water the news (FOX, CNN, CBS etc) would be a bit more insightful.

  21. Why the fuss? by funkatron · · Score: 1

    It's a comedy site, mashing random shit together into implausible narratives is exactly what they're supposed to be doing. This is no different to what The Onion or Cracked do and I don't see the bile getting thrown at those corners of the intertubes. The only thing objectionable here is the quality. It's not hilarious but not terrible. Keep trying guys and girls!

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  22. It's kind of funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure if explaining machine language to them would alleviate the perceived problem or cause them to burn their desktops in the streets and launch a new crusade to protect the children.

    When the propaganda ministry of the GOP tries to report an actual news story they kind of fumble around with the process. They should just stick with being a right wing tabloid, it's what they're good at.

  23. So... by eugene2k · · Score: 1

    Fox News delivering idiocy to your doorstep (couch) still surprises people? And here I thought amercans watch it instead of comedy central...

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    1. Re:So... by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1

      When people watch Fox News, it is the viewers who become Comedy Central.

  24. Does this mean... by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

    If sales in Angry Birds drops, then Rovio can sue Fox for libel, or harmed reputation, or whatever?

    This has a very good chance of causing quantifiable, demonstrable harm. I hope it does, and I really hope Rovio slams Fox's collective rectal cavities against the wall for it.

  25. It gets worse... by goodmanj · · Score: 1

    It's far worse than you realize, Fox: LUA is also heavily used by World of Warcraft! So, the Flame virus that's taking over your computer has ties to demon-worshipping warlocks, pagan druids, and heretical shadow priests.

  26. Muticolored birds! by Oh+Gawwd+Peak+Oil · · Score: 3, Funny

    Some a them birds are yellow. They must be Jap'nese. Doesn't anyone remember Pearl Harbor anymore?

    Others are black. You know about them.

    Still others are blue. Must be from some a them blue states!

    In fact, this whole multicolored thing reminds me of (shaking head) multiculturalism. Angry Birds is rooning Murka!!!

  27. Fox News by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1

    We all can watch Fox News. It's easy and there's nothing to stop us. But should we? Is there any redeeming value that accrues by watching it, or is it all pure commercial pro-establishment rubbish whose primary purposes are a) to make money from advertising, and b) promote a particular political ideology, not necessarily in that order?

    There are many similar things that we can do: smoke, drink sugary beverages, eat meat every day, drink lots of booze, live a sedentary lifestyle, obsessively and bitterly wish we were millionaires, drive our cars always as fast as possible (because we're in a hurry and everyone else is a fucking loser), drive big expensive cars (or aspire to do so), drink sugary beverages in large quantities, obsessively and bitterly wish we were billionaires, zealously believe and promote a political party or candidate, covet the yuppie lifestyle, smoke lots of dope (insert favorite drug and drug pastime here), play video or computer games or consume electronic pop culture at every available moment (earbuds? always on), have all the latest gadgets (cell phones, laptops, consoles, tablets, Apple products, etc.), gain weight without any reasonable limit, and so on. The list is long. We can do it if we feel like it. Who are you to deny that right?

    We can do those things, right? Nothing to stop us.

  28. Long, exasperated, sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    followed by "head in hands" pose.

    It's like we're going back to the frickin dark ages.

  29. Tonight on Fox, Ghandi linked to Hitler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fox have discovered that Ghandi and Hitler were both humans, more on this shocking link later!

  30. In other news by Georules · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fox News is commonly written in English, the same language used to write Twilight. This clearly ties them to sparkly vampires who are destroying our youth.

  31. Angry Birds reference makes perfect sense ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would make a crazy sort of sense, yes? If Angry Birds was actually malware...

    Actually the reference makes perfect sense. They quote merely offers an example of the LUA language's more typical type of usage. Angry Birds is a good reference since it is something that many non-geeks will be aware of.

    1. Re:Angry Birds reference makes perfect sense ... by deniable · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, and the Unabomber's manifesto was written in English, the same language used by Shakespeare. Now the bard is also a terrorist. I'm surprised they didn't call Flame a Brazilian plot. They're behind this whole LUA thing.

  32. It's early on the list by tom112358 · · Score: 1

    If you look at the "insanely long list"(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lua-scripted_video_games) on wikipedia, angry birds is the first well known computer game listed. I think this is half lack of any relevant knowledge, half laziness.

    1. Re:It's early on the list by Georules · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure why using another program that is programmed in the same language provides any context for the language that is important for news reporting. Unless, perhaps, the developer was the same, which the headline leads a casual reader to believe.

  33. Lua not LUA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Lua" (pronounced LOO-ah) means "Moon" in Portuguese. As such, it is neither an acronym nor an abbreviation, but a noun. More specifically, "Lua" is a name, the name of the Earth's moon and the name of the language. Like most names, it should be written in lower case with an initial capital, that is, "Lua". Please do not write it as "LUA", which is both ugly and confusing, because then it becomes an acronym with different meanings for different people. So, please, write "Lua" right!

  34. foxnews.com is written with HTML... by sootman · · Score: 2

    ... just like every single malware site on the Web. BEWARE!

    Fuck. Seriously. What will it take to get that sorry excuse for a news organization removed from existence? This shit is just so fucking wrong.

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    1. Re:foxnews.com is written with HTML... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol I actually RTFA'd this time around, and couldn't stop laughing, really loudly, for a very long time.

      I can't call it news.... Fox is basically a demented comedy hack job that some people are dumb enough to take seriously. The quality (or lack thereof) of their fact-finding is pretty obvious and sad, really. Unfortunately, it's a pretty major news outlet and I don't see it being shut down anytime soon. We can dream though...

  35. Fanta: Choose the Nazi drink of choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    N/T

    And before you post it:

    http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/fanta.asp

  36. Re:Noobs use LUA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean talk with a Lisp and program in ADA?

  37. I foresee the next one will be: by Isaac+Remuant · · Score: 1

    Pirate Bay tied to terrorism.

    Terrorist have been using cyber-weapons on the internet, the same medium used by the Pirate Bay to distribute files.

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  38. Both sides do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recall MSNBC calling linux the prefered OS of terrorists some years back

  39. Small problem by EdwinFreed · · Score: 2
    The article in question says, "The most sophisticated and powerful cyberweapon uncovered to date was written in the LUA computer language. Except that it wasn't. The Kaspersky FAQ says:

    The effective Lua code part is rather small compared to the overall code. Our estimation of development ‘cost’ in Lua is over 3000 lines of code, which for an average developer should take about a month to create and debug.

    Flame is 20Mb total, and a lot of that is almost certainly written in C/C++ (Lua VM, sqlite3, zlib, libbz2).

    The article then says, "[Flame] was built with gamer code". Also incorrect. Lua is a general-purpose scripting language in no way specific to gaming. And I've heard nothing that says code directly related to any sort of game is part of it.

    That's the last time the article mentions Lua or gaming, but no further mentions are necessary. A false connection has been made, and by hyping up the danger of Flame, e.g., the UN views it is a "significant threat", they're effectively blaming game developers through guilt by association.

    The article also says, "Flame came to light when the U.N. International Telecommunications Union (which oversees cyberactivities for the body) received reports of unusual activity." The implication is Flame was responsible for the activity. Again according to Kaspersky, that's not the case. They were attempting to track down something called "Codename Wiper" that was responsible for actually deleting data when they stumbled across Flame by accident.

    In contrast, the MSNBC article makes it quite clear that only part of Flame was written in Lua. It then engages in a fairly coherent discussion of why Lua might have been chosen to implement part of Flame, quoting various sources with various different takes on it. And the headline is rather obviously intended to be facetious.

    So, on one hand we have a fairly coherent piece that actually tries to get into software design philosophy. And on the other, we have your typical pile of crap from Fox News.

  40. Not just Fox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm all for Fox bashing, but it looks like this story about "Gamer Code" came from a common source (Reuters?).

    More "reputable" sources say they same thing:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/flame-cyberweapon-written-using-gamer-code-report-says/2012/05/31/gJQAkIB83U_story.html

    Of course, Fox shamelessly went so far as to post a pic of AngryBirds encourage clicks, but that is just marketing.

  41. Why the suprise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fox / Newscorp is about as much about journalism as a turnip is about active predation.
    10 They will print whatever crap they think will sell papers / generate page hits / boost Nielsen ratings so they can make more money so they can then monopolize more media so then again
    20 go to 10

  42. Here's an idea: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Source Engine supports scripts in LUA so maybe we should start blaming Valve for malware targeting Iran? Half-Life 2, Left 4 Dead, Team Fortress 2 are all VIRUSES! PANIC!

  43. Re:Ha! by psithurism · · Score: 1

    Huh, I had the opposite reaction: I think I'll go learn Lua this weekend. Maybe it'll make me look edgy when a non-geek asks about it. I think a lot of other young, wannabe hackers have the same weekend agenda now.

    All publicity is good publicity!

  44. Re:Ha! by skids · · Score: 1

    Availability of another simple language that is easy on the eyes that has nearly self-explanatory procedural concurrency (via coroutines in Lua's case) might do the trick, but I don't see any real reason to hate on Lua.

  45. Did anyone read the article? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Journalist don't write their own headlines and whoever wrote this one should be punished, but the article doesn't make any connection between the cyber-weapon and Angry Birds, except what is notable and that is Flame is written in gamer's code, apparently something new in the cyber-war era.

    The article's facts are correct and it is not wrong to mention that the code used is used to write the most popular game in history, given that's the only way most people could relate to a language called Lua.

    The facts in the article come not from Fox News, but from sources who are named in the article.

    I find that those who bad mouth Fox News the most never watch the network or, apparently, read the articles they trash, either.

    They just read the headline written by a summer intern.

    1. Re:Did anyone read the article? by Georules · · Score: 1

      Yes I read the article. I'm not sure how the article being slightly more on-point excuses the headline. I still fail to see how other applications of a language are notable. Mein Kampf being in German doesn't change anything about other German texts.

  46. Re:Ha! by safetyinnumbers · · Score: 1

    "Watch out! He's using 'Gamer Code'!"

  47. Rovio by Aggrajag · · Score: 1

    Ok, this is a secret so don't go telling anyone.

    Angry Birds is a Finnish conspiracy AND an attack plan for our inevitable assault on Iran. It also funds the Finnish military.

    Did you think think that the name Rovio (=stake or huge-ass bonfire) is just a coincidence?

  48. Faux as usual by ppanon · · Score: 1

    So in other words, par for the course, accuracy and relevance wise, when it comes to Fox News reporting.

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  49. Next version of Angry Birds.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the next version of Angry Birds we will shoot birds against evil FOXES !

  50. mmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...our delicious, supple youth.

  51. Why Angry Birds? by hkmwbz · · Score: 1

    Ok, I agree that the headline is extremely misleading, and yet another disgusting move by Faux News, but I am not at all surprised that they picked Angry Birds if they were already going to spread FUD about games anyway.

    I mean, why would they pick anything else when Angry Bird is probably the most well known game written using this language? Using some random title no one knows about wouldn't have nearly the same effect. But now the attention of the Faux News audience is captured using a game they are quite likely to be familiar with.

    So while the sensationalist article is a bunch of crap, the choice of game is not exactly surprising.

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  52. I'm zero for two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fox does this with Muslims every day. Some crazy guy with a beard somewhere acts crazy, and so I get dirty looks here in the US of A. It probably doesn't help that I like Lua.

  53. Here's my surprised face by Ray · · Score: 1

    What? Fox "News" misleads its viewers with a story filled with misinformation and innuendo? I'm shocked! SHOCKED I tell you!

  54. "Flame" Malware is made out of ones and zeros by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    The latter of which are also used to staff Fox News.

  55. Have you noticed? by inquist · · Score: 1

    This post does the same thing. "Fox News Ties 'Flame' Malware To Angry Birds" is a deliberately attention-getting title, and is not very accurate. A better title might be just "'Flame' And Angry Birds Written In Same Language"