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Hollywood Agent Ari Emanuel Wants a Magic 'Stop Piracy' Button
closer2it writes "At this week's All Things D conference, Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher invited Hollywood agent Ari Emanuel. He spoke about things like TV not dying, cord-cutting being some kind of myth, and that googlers are smart guys and they should do something about the stealing of content. Josh Topolsky, from The Verge, apparently challenged him (video) on this point, asking: 'Aren't you saying that the road is responsible for the fact that someone drove on it before they robbed my house?' Emanuel didn't like this analogy, and even ended the reply asking Topolsky where he works. Mike Masnick also wrote a piece about the interview. I guess that if the Internet has enemies, I'd say Emanuel gives them a face."
If the "Googlers" are smart guys, doesn't that only show you'd have to be stupid to support the entertainment industry's view of how content should be bought, sold, and used?
It seems like both sides were just shouting in each other's direction, not actually answering the points being made. Google are not the copyright police, but they do block child pornography. Come one, answer these points, make your case instead of just repeating yourself.
To be fair the host needed to step in and moderate too. Is this what passes for a debate?
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I'd hardly call piracy theft. I think I would call it taking out the trash.
that should such a button ever come into existence, its largest affect would be upon the RIAA and MPAA themselves.
why do i pirate? because hollywood has a track record of terrible films. it used to be critics would help me decide if a movie were worth the $12 theatre admission but now that hollywood owns them all, its impossible to decide what film ill like and what film i wont. trailers are designed to hype the films premise by any means; whatever it takes for the dog to bite. I pirate because its more reasonable to delete the movie i hate, than to expect a refund after having sat through it at a theater. I also pirate the film because its a more usable format than a DVD or blu-ray, which require me to purchase needless accessory players and cables to do that which im perfectly capable of with a computer.
I pirate music much less rarely; no thanks to the RIAA. the bands i like let me give them money directly. I recently bought a box-set from the band red-flag. it came on a USB drive in the format i can use, and even included cool remix tracks. as for the artists with catchy riffs and melodies but no real characteristic to appreciate, i can justify pirating from them for a few reasons. The artist Drake for example is a greedy and despicable person, i relish each blow to his earnings. his lyrics, his engineering, melody and the like are all manufactured to generate profit for clearinghouses and industry executives at the pittance he is afforded. None of it is authentic, thus none of it is art. without art, there is no artist to defend.
Good people go to bed earlier.
How about we trade a "Stop Piracy" button for a "Stop Adam Sandler" button? mkay?
Somebody is responsible for me feeling annoyed right now, but who do I blame? Slashdot for posting the story, Emanuel for being an idiot, or.. it's me, isn't it?
...and give it marching orders. Use the entertainment industry to sell computers and to generate internet revenue.
"Give them the razor, sell them the blades" by buying out the razor factory.
"This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
I don't have a problem with what the guy said tbh. He's basically stating that the economics don't make sense for him to want to change how things are done. Fine. You keep doing what you are doing, and I'll keep doing what I'm doing.
I watched the video. I don't agree with Emanuel's perspective, and I hate to say this, but Topolsky got his ass handed to him. He presented a weak argument, and Emanual ripped it apart. Topolsky's not wrong, he just failed to bring a decent argument, and was basically laughed out of the room.
"You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war." -- Albert Einstein
But I'm certainly not going to pay Comcast or any other cable company $70/month for 70 channels that rarely have anything I want to watch. (Even Syfy is now filled with reality junk... having canceled their last sci-fi show.)
I might be willing to pay for a la carte. Say $8 for any 20 channels of my choice. Somewhat similar to how Sirius XM radio works ($8 for 40 channels).
My AC stalker: " I personally agree with your posts most of the time, but that won't keep me from modding you troll"
And just why do you want to know where I work?
So that you can complain to my boss that I made you look stupid and that he should fire me for that?
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
No cord cutting? There's no reason to pay outrageous cable bills anymore, and it's no secret.
I suppose he's been hitting his "please make all this progress stuff stop" button too much and imagining that it's been working.
I'll just take a "profit!" button myself.
He's a registered hard money 'bundler' ($132,813 on '08) for Obama.
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Old man yells at clouds. How is this a story?
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that some people have no idea about how the world works ...
that they so profoundly have no grasp on the shared experiences of the rest of humanity
that the world falls outside the field of the comprehension and has problems more pressing then shit that affects you
consider perhaps people you don't distribute or market your goods to directly MIGHT enjoy seeing them...
that the systems and restrictions you bring to a market place are the reason people are seeking alternatives
My wife and I cut off our tv for a few months out of a cost-savings measure. The cable company kept offering us really good, (if slightly misleading deals), and we eventually bit, and discovered that we didn't actually watch it. With DVDs / Blu-rays, video games, Netflix, and various corporate streaming services, cable was always the inferior option, and never got used. It's downright painful to return to Cable after using Netflix as a primary TV provider. Netflix is certainly lacking a number of things, but as new productions are coming out with streaming services in mind, the rights are actually getting easier to get for the streaming services, which are becoming more and more robust.
You know, at the rate they're going, Apple will be sitting on $200,000,000,000 within a year...
A 'Stop Crap' button for the lame films they spew.
A 'Stop Bay' button to make him stop ruining my childhood like a TNT wielding GLucas on crack.
A 'Stop Lucas' button while we're at it.
A 'Stop Gouge' button that makes a movie night cost me less than or equal to what I make in it's equivalent running time.
A 'Stop Loss' button that refunds me the price of admission, snacks and reimburses me for my time when the only good parts of the feature appear in the trailer in their entirety.
There's more, but I figure Santa can get started on these and I'll get the rest to him before Christmas.
Imagination drew in bold strokes, instantly serving hopes and fears, while knowledge advanced by slow increments...
The last few seconds pretty much sums up Ari's shortsightedness. A man from the audience is explaining that what happened to the music industry (how Apple saved the failing business model) and Ari agrees with that, then the man from audience asks if he doesn't see the writing on the wall, that this is going to happen to TV soon, within 20 years. Ari's answer is that he'll be fine with that, he'll be 71.
This is exactly the problem with that whole industry. Their policies are based on shortsighted views and ancient mentality. In the digital age it is folly to let these idiots lead the content industry. They're concerned about immediate profits, with no regard to what will happen in the near future.
People who have the mentality of "I don't care what happens 20 years from now" should not be in charge of anything that is expected to last more than a mere 20 years. If you want your business to fail within 20 years, then Ari is your man. Ari is a death sentence to a company.
What a childish and arrogant attitude of entitlement.
Topolsky's analogy was good, and it really demonstrates how irrational Emanuel is. The analogy though would better fit ISPs and hosting providers.
I have a slightly better analogy which I welcome interviewers to keep in their pocket for the media industry representatives anytime they try to do the censor Google and similar song and dance. It has the advantage that you have the interviewee agree to the fact that you are right before the question is posed, or they clearly demonstrate that they are indeed insane.
First, I would like to know whether you agree to a few basic premises of my question.
1) Libraries should exist and should be able to house any content which is legal and that content should be available to examination by all patrons. To my knowledge, the only significant content under the illegal category is child pornography.
2) Libraries should be able to index the content they carry, whether by the Dewey decimal system or keyword or any other metric they so choose.
3) If someone uses the knowledge gained from a library to commit a crime, such as creating an ammonium nitrate fertilizer bomb from reading chemistry or explosive making books, the library has no responsibility. Only the person who committed the crime bears the guilt of such an act. Another example would be someone who learns how to pick locks from locksmithing books and uses the knowledge to rob jewelry stores he looked up in the Yellow pages.
Now comes the obvious question.
So then, how is an organization such as Google, responsible for providing the address of where a person can go to steal goods. Google does not house or transfer the goods. Google is little more than the Yellow Pages or a library index, they don't even carry the books, but you want to hold them responsible for the content of other people's computers? This would be like reading an autobiography from a drug trafficer which mentions that their gang used to hide drugs under an old brass bell at 49th and Broadway and blaming the library, or much less, their use Dewey Decimal system, which allowed some thugs to steal and sell the drugs hidden beneath.
Further, consider another example. Consider if someone used a transcode tool to make unencrypted copies of everything they watched on a Netflix account and then distributed that content. No one in the content industry would blame Netflix if they were using proper industry standard methods to copy protect their feed. This was never an issue that Blockbuster was responsible for VHS piracy during the 80's when some people would dub video cassette rentals. Radio stations and boombox makers were never the issue when people made mix tapes from Radio broadcasts.
Where exactly do you derive the right to publicly espouse a view clearly in contrast with society, the companies for whom you work, and even yourself? Nobody in any of those groups would say that libraries should have censored or monitored indices or banned books on the basis that they could be used for illegal purposes.
Frankly, I think Emanuel would probably begin cursing and yelling even more when faced with such reality, not to mention display an extreme amount of cognitive dissonance palpable to the audience.
Mirrors Zionist Israel for its attitude towards critics.
At some point, should the amount of fake tan you apply disqualify your opinions from consideration?
Just a thought.
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They may be smart engineers, those guys and gals who build the roads, but they will also tell him there is no simple and foolproof way to stop criminals from driving on roads while letting the non-criminals continue to drive safely and unimpeded.
A somewhat better analogy would be to compare Google's search tools to a phone book. There's no easy way for the phone company to determine which numbers are for an ordinary residence versus ones for a drug dealer, unless you want to accept continual, real-time surveillance of everyone. I'm sure Hollywood would say "Yes, do that" as long as they weren't the ones paying for it (i.e. taxpayers were footing the bill or phone customers were).
Compared to those costs a pony wouldn't be a particularly expensive add-on.
There exists a certain kind of person who will think that when you do something with computers, you are some kind of genius and a genius is almost a wizard if not a warlock or something. It might SOUND like awe but you can hear them linking it with witchcraft and selling your sole for a demonbuggering you.
Sometimes, praises ain't praises at all. Googlers are smart guys sounds a bit to much like Jews are really good with money, White people got all the jobs and Blacks sure got rhythm. Quick personality test, which of these made your blood boil? Mmm, interesting...
But where your grandmothers world views might be relatively harmless (where was she during the holocaust or lynchings etc etc) this guy uses it to put the blame for all his whoes on another group of people. Consider this: You can blame your high fuel prices on the oil companies, big money, Illuminati etc etc. This is straightforward blaming (and usually gets racist sooner or later). OR you can say, those motor company guys are smart guys and they can build a fuel efficient 3 ton SUV for you to drive alone... AND the unvoiced part here IS: but they ain't, so those guys must be in cohoots with the former guys who are controlling the entire world.
In short, this praise of googlers is NOT praise but saying really: They could fix it if they wanted to but they don't want to.
Pretty nice since this needly sidesteps the challenge of proving it can be done. Simply, they are smart, they can do it, if they wanted to and they must.
The problem this guy, Ari Emanuel faces is that he can't deal with the idea that world changes. Not just faster computers, bigger SUV's etc etc but that our culture, our idea of who we are, what we value, how we live, how we entertain ourselves, our morals, EVERYTHING changes over time. Copyright as it exists now, did NOT always exist in its current form. It was introduced quite recently and then it was introduced because tech (printing and music recording) were changing the world.
BUT that is just the shallow end of the changes made a hundred or so years ago. How many of you got an instrument you play with regulatory for your enjoyment? Wink wink, nudge nudge know what I mean
What I mean of course is that the sale of musical instruments has plummeted, once if you wanted to listen to music, you made it yourself. For hundreds, no thousands of years. Long before any copyright existed to "protect" music. In fact copyright was not introduced to protect musicians or even song writers but to protect music PUBLISHERS. Recorded music, first pianola, later wax cylinders etc changed all this. But it changed far more then just how music made its way around. How many in your youth went to a disco... okay, wrong place to ask BUT think about this, going to a disco or dance is basically the same thing but how normal do you find it have LIVE music playing? When there was no recorded music, far more people played to entertain others outside the home. Now only a few even play inside the home.
Recorded music has been killing MUSIC!
And yet, we SURVIVED!!! Society did NOT collapse. This was feared every time culture changed, the end of theater because of the movies, the end of the movies because of TV, the end of TV because of the VCR.
Culture survived! Might it also survive a new change? An era in which entertainment is once again produced differently? Think about cover bands. They are NOT a new thing but with recorded music, people for the first time had an idea of how the original sounded. Cover bands just USED to play popular music they heard in one place in another by just listening and changing it ever so slightly. That is how many a folklore story got changed and yet remained the same. (Yes, that too is part of mass media entertainment, just a different era). The idea that ONE company, one performer can now set how ALL other performers of a similar product are judged against the "original" is quite new. Quick, Snowwhite, the little mermain, picture them. If you can't help but see th
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You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
That's part of the problem. There's people who tell him all the reasons it won't work, but he doesn't want to hear that. There's other people who don't bother telling him unpleasant truths, and instead just sell him a magic button, and when that doesn't work, sell him more magic buttons.
You have to admit, the magic button vendors have it figured out. They get to make money, AND cheat the RIAA out of their hard-"earned" money.
Come on people, this is pretty low. Clearly this "Emanuel" understands very little about the internet and is exhibiting frustration at this point. It doesn't help that the people talking with him are spouting the standard sound bytes rather than trying to teach him what's wrong with his reasoning.
The real enemies here are the people who understand that it's either liberty for the common man or money for the media industries and are doing everything they can to ensure the latter. I might hope for some kind of compromise myself but even the most basic liberties are incompatible with most anti-piracy systems/ideas.
Not someone you would want as a doctor for sure. What an arrogant, self-important jerk. But what do I know; he's much richer than I am, so he must be right.
Sorry, but gray text on gray background is making my eyes bleed.
I have always though that Hollywood executives were completely Idiotic Morons with an IQ around 85.
And this guy has proven it without a shadow of a doubt.
Please hollywood, keep hiring and showcasing complete idiots like this guy. It means you will not see the end coming and will stand there off guard and blindsided when the bitter end whips and smacks them in the face.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
If cord-cutting is a myth, then why is my cable company currently offering me free TV service for a year? I stopped paying for TV years ago, and they keep trying to entice me back with increasingly good deals. Why bother if I'm one of a few rare weirdos, and everyone else is still paying?
Another analogy that fits better is this.
Is it Verizon or AT&T's responsibility to police phone lines for someone who might be planning a robbery with another robber over the telephone? Is it the phone company's responsibility to do a criminal background check before handing out a phone book full of address information? Google is just a 411 service for the internet. And internet service providers just provide the pipes.
Really wish Josh would have thought it through more, it was an important televised moment to speak truth to power, in this whole piracy debate.
You can already get ponies on BitTorrent.
Your solution here is Netflix.
When does Song of the South or Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea come to Netflix?
He already has the PC
But it's probably in another room, and the general public has no desire to connect it to a television. Or it might be in use by another member of the household.
It's quite a statement about you and your inability to look beyond peacock feathers and assholery.
It's not maccodemonkey's inability as much as the median voter's inability.
Friendly suggestion: don't pick science or any field where ideas are more important than bluster for a career.
Bluster leads to votes, and votes lead to legislation.
This Ari guy is a jackass, where are the Germans when you need them.
Yeah whatever.. I was a Dish subscriber for 13 years.. Last year we turned it all off, bumped up our netflix subscription to get everyone in the house streaming at once and got a unlimited blockbuster store pass. It works for us.. If I want local news I get it OTA and thanks to digital broadcasting it looks better than on cable or dish.
You know what else I have now? Free time.. I'm no longer sucked into watching endless crap reality shows..
If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur. --Red Adair
Have gnu, will travel.
There are books in the library that contain information that can be used to do bad things. You can remove any an all cards (for libraries that still use them), or database references to those naughty books. The books will still be in the library, but will be harder to find (even for many librarians).
There are websites that show up in Google searches that can contain copyrighted material for unauthorized download. You can remove those sites from any and all search results. Those sites will still be there, but they will be harder to find.
Am I missing something here? I thought this kind of thing was already happening.
Speaking of Adm Sandler... A.W.E.S.O.M-O quotes ( link to that southpark episode )
Producer: Watch this. A.W.E.S.O.M-O, given the current trends of the movie going public, can you come up with an idea for a movie that will break $100 million box office?
A.W.E.S.O.M.-O: [Cartman]Um... Okay, how about this: Adam Sandler is like in love with some girl. But it turns out that the girl is actually a golden retriever or something.
Mitch: Oh! Perfect!
Executive: We'll call it "Puppy Love".
Mitch: Give us another movie idea, A.W.E.S.O.M.-O.
A.W.E.S.O.M.-O: Um... How about this: Adam Sandler inherits like, a billion dollars, but first he has to become a boxer or something.
Mitch: "Punch Drunk Billionaire".
......
A.W.E.S.O.M.-O: Movie idea #2,305: Adam Sandler is trapped on a deserted island and falls in love with a coconut.
Producer: Great. Great, A.W.E.S.O.M.-O. Uh, guys, take a break. I need a minute alone with A.W.E.S.O.M.-O.
Executive: Okay.
Producer: You are an incredible robot, A.W.E.S.O.M.-O. I was just wondering, are you by chance a *pleasure* model?
A.W.E.S.O.M.-O: What?
Producer: Have you been programmed to satisfy urges of humans?
A.W.E.S.O.M.-O: A.W.E.S.O.M.-O does not understand.
Producer: Let me show you what I mean.
Butters: [on the phone] Yeah, we're having a great time, Aunt Nellie. The movie studio guys are real nice.
A.W.E.S.O.M.-O: Lame!
[bursts out of the board room, followed by a pants-less Producer]
A.W.E.S.O.M.-O: Not cool! Total lame!
Ari Emanuel mentions he shouldn't use it, then build a case around it.
Any time someone wants something (done) they use the phrase "child pornography"
and relate it somehow to their cause.
The road analogy was a good one, it was just used with someone who is so
set in their ways nothing will change them; and co-host ass kissers.
You know, at the rate they're going, Apple will be sitting on $200,000,000,000 within a year...
No, Apple would not improve anything, they are one of the few tech companies that behave like an entertainment company.
Don't forget that Steve Jobs was a significant stock holder in Disney (who are bunch of dicks), Disney was not improved by his influence.
The Content Cartel cheats on taxes with tricks like the Double Dutch Sandwich and the Irish Arraingement.
Copyrights should be siezed and returned to the original artists.
Management should be thrown in prison and past taxes and interest assessed.
Note also that they cheated on their taxes while we were at war.
I guess his assumption that Silicon Valley has smart people who can make content policing happen is based on a total lack of smart people in Hollywood that can fix their broken business models.
Also: For every formulaic TV show episode with overpaid stars there are five entertaining videos on YouTube. But maybe Hollywood wants to remove that, too, in their hunt for artificially propping up their income. If someone spends $100 million making a movie, that does not mean anyone has any duty to give them back their money in the form of tickets or sales. There is no entitlement to success in business. "The pirates" becomes an excuse when crap doesn't sell well.
How about we trade a "Stop Piracy" button for a "Stop Adam Sandler" button? mkay?
I really love club dresses ,
If robbers rob my house I expect the police to arrest them anywhere they can, even on the road.
It is easy to see why pro-P2P goyim are opposed to someone named Ari Emanuel. He is jewish and his given name means "God is with us". Yes, indeed the jews are the only heavenly chosen race on Earth, YHWH chose them for his ally souvereignly, making them receive blessings of wisdom!
Hollywood is run by jews, Broadway is run by jews, Manhattan & Wall Street are run by jews and all of them are owned by jews. The press is jewish and the scientists are jewish. They are the creative and enterpreneuring blessed minds, the chosen tribe tasked to keep this free and progressive world running, so the masses of goyim do not have to live in fear, like medieval peasants: barefoot, struggling day by day and constantly ill.
On the other hand, modern day goyim are merrily net-pirating and depriving jews of the revenue they deserve, based on their monetary and creative investment in the publishing, movie and popular music industry, among others - pirating using computers and data networks invented by jewish scientists.
One can't grasp why the mighty Israel, possessive of all wunderwaffe, including nukes and dreaded special corps and having full reign of world politics, still tolerates goyim stealing massive loads of digital content from jews? Every dollar lost to P2P is missing from the military budget of the IDF and thus, one day the arabs will amass and extinguish the chosen people and the world will fall into darkness.
Shall YHWH not let that happen, but extinguish the vile P2P goyim with brimstone, like he crushed Sodoma and Jericho and many other godless places!
Shema Yisrael, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad!
Africa for the Africans. Asia for the Asians. White countries - For everybody.
We are told there is this RACE problem, We are told this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realise I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
Sorry . . . they're not even in the same league folks. Child porn by definition requires an act of child molestation and sexual abuse. It literally destroys lives. Online piracy does nothing but decrease his industry's ability to generate profits without competition. Topolsky should have immediately attacked his bullshit straw man argument -- you know, something akin to "Jaywalking is illegal, and murder is illegal too . . . but society deals with them differently."
This fucking guy Emmanuel serves perfectly as a great face of Hollywood -- good looking, expensive designer clothing, swearing like a sailor (I mean, besides entertainment, in what other industry have you ever heard someone swear that constantly during an interview and still expect to be taken seriously? I guess that's to enhance his "Cool West LA" image all the TV-consuming serfs want to follow), talking down to people, and his brother is tight with the President. I lived in LA and have met his kind -- handsome but not quite good looking enough to be a model or actor, but well-connected and smart enough to profit off of the system anyway. He's an arrogant fuck whose industry's ass is getting handed to it by a changing world, and yet all he cares about is banking as much as he can for the next 20 years. He's the Democrats' answer to the Wall Street and Big Oil execs they love to demonize. Fuck him -- the world would be better off if he died in a car wreck tomorrow.
One man's genius is another man's sociopath.
"Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
What's this TV thing he speaks of?
Hollywood is just pissing off their customers with their current efforts. It is obvious that they don't "get it."
I haven't watched live TV in about 4 years.
I killed my cable plan from 250+ channels to less than 20 about 18 months ago. I don't miss it. I'm building an UHF antenna and expect to dump cable TV completely next week. The 10 shopping channels out of 20 total channels is just too much crap. Next.
We stream legal content from the internet for free. We avoid illegal downloads, but it isn't always easy to tell who is legal and who is not. The legal steaming is commercial free, which I find amazing. I don't know if our adblocking software/router is doing it or what is. I'm not looking for ways to make it harder. Next.
Hulu was great until they started adding all the commercials. These days it won't playback on my Linux box, so I've blocked it completely in the router. It is too difficult to use. Next.
I've considered getting Netflix or Amazon on Demand, since I time-shifted thousands of hours of premium cable stuff over the last 10 yrs, we have a huge amount of content locally now. My house runs Linux, so Netflix is not an option and I haven't looked into Amazon. We will not use iTunes, but that is a political decision. Next.
With all those recordings, we don't need many channels. I'm watching American Pie this morning recorded in 2008 at 640x356 resolution. Probably recorded at higher resolution, but since it was wide screen, the cropping knocked it down to 356. Sure, I'd like it at higher resolution, but it isn't worth $2 to me. The story and content is good enough from 12 feet away.
If Hollywood wants money from my family, they need to do some simple things: ... how many times should I buy Ghostbusters or Independence Day?
a) Cheap - $2 or less; a monthly rental might work for some people.
b) Convenient - copied locally or streamed doesn't matter too much; I'd want Fwd/Rev, pause, and complete access to any part of the DVD.
c) Ownership - I'm not interested in a plan that doesn't work 100% when I'm disconnected with any device I have today or any device I might have the next 50 years. DRM scares me. I was burned with prior content and won't be again. VHS, DVD, Bluray
d) Disconnected - on family vacations if the weather goes bad, we watch movies. A 3TB HDD with thousands of movies on it and a portable playback device are pretty great for this. We don't have internet or even telephones at the family cabin.
If you want to hold the content on your servers, then you need to clearly say which exact formats will be available and guaranty a length of time for that access. Anything less than 50 years and you've lost me. My TV recordings will be passed down to my oldest and they won't have to pay again. This goes for audio and video content. I have a few TV recordings from the 1980s and family movies from the 50s. Some of the TV recordings aren't available in any format.
Hollywood has tried to push bluray, but DVD is fine for our needs. Actually, DVD is better since the DRM is easily removed and the transcoded files are relatively tiny for pretty great quality - usually less than 1GB per movie.
In short, Hollywood needs to be more convenient than pirating and reasonably cheap. The pirates have shown them the formats that we want - h.264/mkv with subtitles. Clearly we aren't interested in mandatory commercials at the front. Next.
No need for "on disc extras" - perhaps charge $1.50 more for those?
When we purchase a DVD, the first and last time it gets loaded is to be ripped. I'm not interested in my family being subjected to commercials that are forced during playback of the DVD media.
We've never purchased a Bluray and the family does not own any bluray devices.
...is that they will go to ever more draconian measures of enforcement, up to and including jailing you for "infringement." Ignore being jailed.
In case you think they wouldn't do that because there are waaay too many people who would have to go to jail, I will refer you to the number of people in jail solely for possession or use of basically harmless substances, or, to put it in another way, people incarcerated for no good goddamned reason.
Ignoring bad laws is like ignoring your house burning down. Do so at your peril.
I rest my case.
why didn't ari comment on how he thinks that should get stopped?
One man's sociopath is another family's support. They support this person's madness because they want to live well.
I agree with you, BUT I know a few people like this. They are really nice face to face. CHarming, fun, witty, but when you start to hear what their views on competition and other people are... watch out. They'll screw anybody over anything, waste anyone's time to their benefit. They are a parasite, and while they seem nice they are a horrible blemish on what it means to be a society.
Problem is, in our twitter and meetings-once-a-year-to-keep-the-client-happy business climate, that charm is all they need to cover up what a couple extra hours of face time would lay bare very quickly.
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I don't really care about piracy or having people violate copyright law. What scares me is that people like Ari Emanual clearly don't understand how the internet works. Even if they manage to pass some reincarnation of legislation like SOPA/PIPA, it will NOT do anything but cause a fleeting reduction in piracy. People will find a workaround and will be more motivated and pissed off than ever to make it easy for the masses to use. This problem can not be solved by threatening people with FBI Warnings at the beginning of every movie nor by legislation. It is a psychological problem. What makes people want to pirate? CONVENIENCE. I think we can all agree that we couldn't care less about shelling out money for some good programming. The success of Netflix and Hulu have clearly proven this beyond any reasonable doubt. So why don't they make their products more convenient to access via the internet? They know that if there were no piracy they could charge an even more excessive amount of money for their products and people would buy them. However, even if I were as evil as them and wanted eliminate piracy, it can NEVER happen. Piracy will NEVER, EVER be eliminated. I don't care if piratebay.org does eventually go down, any victory will be fleeting. It is and will always be a losing battle. If only people like Ari Emanuel understood this, maybe they'd stop using their huge influence over politics to usher in an era of centralization and censorship on the internet. While I don't care about piracy, I do understand how important it is that freedom on the internet remains in place for the next generation. The internet is already and will in the future improve the world substantially.
I can go to a local bar and drop $10 on beer.
So what are parents and their children supposed to do? "It is a Class C infraction for a parent, guardian, trustee, or other person having custody of a child under eighteen (18) years of age to take that child into a tavern, bar, or other public place where alcoholic beverages are sold, bartered, exchanged, given away, provided, or furnished." (IC 7.1-5-7-9)
yup, I believe it does.
Copyright and patent violations are structured such that the policing and enforcement of them are left to the holding company or individual. Trying to get someone else to do your work for you is just laziness. I realize that stealing is wrong. I understand that piracy is stealing. Welcome to the 21st century, if you make your things too expensive or too difficult to get you create a vacuum that the less morally and ethically inclined will fill with stolen goods. Its been this way throughout all of time. So stop acting like its somehow new. Chevy is not responsible for how someone drives their car, nor is the onus of traffic enforcement on them. The same applies for the internet. The gatekeepers and server holders are not responsible for how their public hardware is used and the laws that govern patents and copyright clearly put the onus of policing and enforcement solely on YOUR shoulders. Stop trying to shirk work. You have enough money, spend some of it.
You aren't posting 10 percent of the comments being received on this topic. Ari won't take his free ham sandwich and go quietly.