How do you download from a borked machine? How do you boot and restore from your Time Machine backup? How do you reformat and install from scratch?
Well if you have not yet purchased and downloaded Lion, then you will use your existing OS X installer DVD to recover your machine. Once it works again you then go purchase Lion.
When you download it online, it comes as a.dmg disk image file. You pretty much Have to burn it to DVD to boot from it. So you simply do not throw away the DVD you burnt after you upgrade, and then you have your recovery media for Lion as well.
I sure hope they offer real media, even if they do at additional cost. At 30 USD for the OS I'll happily pay ten bucks more for packaging and media...
No fast Internet? Go to the Apple store, purchase it there, and they will put it on a DVD for you. Perhaps they will charge a small fee for that (I do not know for sure), but as you say, you (And I imagine most people going that route) would not mind a couple extra bucks to have them burn the disc at the store for you.
I didn't sign up with Apple computers 25 years ago because it was "Computers for Dummies". Windows is the corporate computer, and Linux is and always will be for guys with lots of free time and a burning desire to swear like a sailor any time you need to attach hardware.
Over 25 years ago and neither Windows nor Linux even existed, while Apple did and had the leading business desktop computers being made. Back in the beginning their only competition in the work place was large mainframes, which clearly are not personal computers. That is a huge amount of inertia you overlook, and the main reason people kept using Apple in the workplace for some time.
Those companies that got into personal computing on the desktop only had one option, and they likely stuck with it. It was only the ones avoiding personal computing that seemed to wait until IBM gave it their blessing with their DOS machines. It was not until then that DOS overtook Apple.
Slightly after that time (Right at the 25 year mark or so), Linux still did not exist (Though BSD sure did!), and the Windows GUI was still a large number of years behind Apples GUI. Windows was not used much in the business area at first, that was still dominated by MSDOS systems and apps, which was the doing of IBM, not Microsoft directly.
Your choice of OS back at the time you claim would not have been related to the reasons you give (Since none of those existed), but due to the inertia from what was going on at the time.
When you are an accountant and the only spreadsheet app that existed was Visacalc on Apple//, you either wanted it and got it, or did without for a few years until Lotus hit the market on DOS PCs.
then this is perfect for stalking. Call your ex-girlfriend and look where the pin drops.
Looking at the map, it is clear each call is only identified as one of seven of the phone company POPs (points of presence)
For example there are two pin locations in California, one at Santa Cruz, and another at San Diego. That does not narrow down a location any further than a state, since each POP services at least many cities, if not many states (They are IP phones after all.) The above example covers all of California, and would only tell you northern or southern assuming only covering many cities. If covering many states, it only tells you she is somewhere in South Western in America.
It in no way allows someone to stalk anyone, any more than me saying "I live within a three state radius from New York", without you even knowing I actually live in Ohio
It is the frequency of the pins dropping that is the interesting part. Seeing roughly two calls a second in northern Cali, and even more in New York, they are clearly the most active locations.
And it's really annoying. Outside of screen, ctrl-a (by default) jumps to the front of the line (I love vim, but can't get my head arround set -o vi)
True, it does take some getting used to. Control-a a is how to do a literal control-a for line editing. But as you say, if you aren't watching and don't realize it for a number of keystrokes, all sorts of havoc can be wrought.
Then to be extra confusing, there is control-a control-a, which is basically 'switch to last window' Really handy as a 'boss' key however when you need to quickly jump back to the window running the compile;}
You should check out the rat poison window manager.
If you've ever used screen in a console, you'll be right at home. Where screen uses control-a, ratpoison uses control-t.
Keyboard commands for everything, and no mouse support!
As for the shutdown command, the proper way is shutdown -h now (-h to halt, -r to reboot) Of course you can also just run 'halt' to shut down with less typing.
Well, there is a computer that figures out science on it's own, simply through observation. In fact, it has solved certain biological puzzles. It came up with 2 formulas that explain an observation, and they work. No human know why the formulas work, just that they do.
Think upon that.
That sounds extremely interesting! Got any links or search terms I could use to read up on that system?
I'm pretty sure that installing software when a CD is inserted, for the purposes of copyright protection, however failworthy and undesirable... is not hacking. Not even when you falsely apply the 'rootkit' label to that particular software and somehow by association will it into being a 'hack'.
So when Sony installs software on your computer that enables them to remotely connect to it and issue commands as the administrator, that's good.
But when LulzSec and others install software on Sony's computers that enables them to remotely connect and issue commands as the administrator, that's bad?
When Sony only remotely connect to a few of the hundreds of thousands of hacked computers they rooted, and only exploits a few of them, that's good.
But when LulzSec and others only remotely connect to a few of the hundreds of hacked computers they rooted at Sony, and only exploits a few of them, that's bad?
I just want to make sure I understand you correctly.
Also, do either hack come with a free Frogert?
You also seem to have an interesting definition of 'rootkit'. Since I only know the real definition, could you kindly elaborate on yours?
Reality is in the big picture, there is no difference between MS OSs and anyone else.
Except that adding another server to handle more load will cost a couple grand per seat on Windows (Hardware plus licensing) where on an OSS platform you only pay for the hardware.
Your argument that it is possible to do is beside the point, since no one is saying Windows can't scale. The point is the cost of doing so.
The poster stated he is using the Microsoft route since that is what he is familiar with. And there is nothing wrong with that, as long as you have firmly in the front of your mind that is what you are doing, and there will be huge costs involved to do that.
Since his question was about costs, specifically keeping them down, you can not expect people to not recommend tools that perform the same function just as well yet are free. If he wasn't willing to change from what he is familiar with, he wouldn't have asked for cheaper options, and would have just accepted the fact he must pay a lot of money to stay with the familiar.
I actually made a similar setup a couple years ago with an IBM core memory board of 900 bits and a basic stamp.
The magnets on the core memory still held a fairly random pattern of bits once I read it out, and it was last used about 30 years ago, so I can attest to at least holding their magnetic polarity for that long.
I think I remember reading somewhere that the farite material they used to make the beads are known in nature to hold their magnetic polarity through earth pole shifts. Something to do with vertical veins of material deposits, and seeing the shifts in bands that line up with the surrounding rock that has had its age determined via other means and matching up to about the times the earths poles have flipped. Either way, quite a long time indeed.
Most magnets don't fail by losing their polarity, they fail by degrading into a material that is non-magnetic, and thus would not be able to hold a charge of any type afterward.
Now, they do need refreshed while in operation. Specifically after most read operations.
A write is simple. You send a charge down a wire one way or the other, which changes the beads magnetic polarity.
A read however is a bit more complex. Basically there is a 'sense' wire that goes through literally every bead on the board. When one of the beads has its magnetic polarity changed, they emit a magnetic pulse which is picked up in the sense wire and inducted as an electric current. So to perform a read, you send a '1' pulse to a bit and watch the sense line. If nothing happens, then you know the polarity did not change, and thus that bit was and is still a '1'. If you get a pulse on the sense line however, that means it did change polarity, and so you know the bit read is a '0'. You also know it now contains a '1' since you just changed it, thus you must perform a write of the original '0'.
In my case, I have no idea in what order those bits were addressed by the system, so even though I could read out the stored bits, I can't put them back together into their bytes (Or more likely 5-7 bit 'words'), let alone order those bytes back into a block of memory. When used in the original hardware however, yes you can power the computer on and your core memory RAM would be just as it was when it was powered off, and continue operating instructions where it left off. The ultimate computer hibernation mode!
Do you run your own mail server? Most people don't. Now get it over it, we use GMail. Same thing as using other web based services.
There is a big, BIG difference between deciding that it is not worth your while to run a mail server, versus being unable to do so.
I would go one further and say it's an even bigger difference between wanting someone else to run your mail server, versus wanting someone else to remember your passwords for you.
It's also pretty telling when the users of such a service actually beg to keep their original passwords after being told those passwords are compromised.
They must be a different model then, and I'm not remembering the number bit right. Looking up the specs on Dells site for the 280, everything is a mismatch.
Dell says p4 but these are p3. Dell says XP but these have 95/98 stickers and OEM keys for same. Dell also says sata and pci express, but these have neither of those. Regular old pci and one ide bus. Can't even boot from USB.
I'm sure with a bit more RAM they _could_ run XP, though slowly. If XP was no additional cost, I would likely have just used that since we are still a mostly 2003/XP shop (unfortunately)
I can't say I ever looked up the manufacturer date, but the systems I have were out of production and support for so long, we got them in pallets of 10 for $300 total back in 2008.
I'll fire off another reply tomorrow at work on my next slack-off/slashdot break with the right one.
Actually XFCE is what I am currently looking at for the next image for these systems.
They are mainly just file viewers, and mainly PDF at that. So a very light work load, and nothing that depends that much on the window manager.
They link into the windows file server, but I mount that on a directory with CIFS so again pretty much any file manager should be able to browse it and open files.
As I mentioned though, Ubuntu is no longer the best choice for that, since (IMHO) it's best feature is a zero config Gnome desktop that always just works.
If any setup is required, I might as well go all out and use a lighter weight base system. I'm thinking Debian with XFCE will fit on a 1gb flash drive and be a nice speed improvement as well. Thankfully I have half a year to figure out those details.
I don't know about the wisdom of staying on 10.10 for very long. After the next LTS is out, all of those packages in the repos will disappear.
My current plan is to just stick with the 10.04 LTS for a while. After that becomes problematic, switching to Debian and XFCE sounds like the best plan for this level of hardware.
You are right in that I too doubt Gnome would work well in 64mb.
They are all Dell optiplex gx280's in the very small form factor, as they are bolted under and to the assembly line seats they are on. The top of the line has a swing arm with a 19" LCD on it, and a mounting plate below where trays of parts can be mounted.
These systems however have 256mb, and are using either 1 256mb dimm or in some cases 2 128mb dimms. They have either 3 or 4 slots total if I recall correctly. I only call them 95/98 machines because they all had a "Made for Windows 95/98" sticker on them, along with an old OEM windows key for 98. I assume if you loaded them up with 4 sticks of 256 they might even run Win2k (pretty slowly, but still)
They are only a tiny bit sluggish with 256mb, and could probably stand having that doubled. Fortunately their workload is pretty light. The heaviest thing that might be done is opening a word doc for viewing, and generally they only view and occasionally print PDFs.
I do not really need the overhead of Gnome. XFCE would do fine for my purposes. Ubuntu+Gnome just made it easy both on myself (Very little configuration needed) and on the users, whom few if any have any computer experience and so find the standard desktop metaphor more comfortable. Neither of those two points are requirements however. I don't mind taking on the extra setup work if required, nor the training work either.
If you are interested, I have some pictures of my setup. Front - how the users see things (Line 1 of 3), and Back - where you can see the PCs actually mounted (Line 2 of 3)
Their primary use is displaying PDF files on a six seat assembly line. The design engineers setup a 6 page PDF of the circuit board where each page has a certain number of parts in color which are numbered. You can almost see that in the first picture above. Each seat opens their page, and is responsible for placing those specific parts on the board. The last seat of the line then places his/her parts and the board track then goes into a solder reflow oven.
You can only disable it for another 6 months, and even for these 6 months you can only disable it if you have new hardware.
At work I have 18 Dell p3 machines all running Ubuntu 10.04. I would prefer 10.10 as it is vastly better, but not being LTS forces you into this upgrade cycle.
11.04 will not even boot into the graphics system on those computers to let you disable unity.
So if I want security updates, I must switch to another distro. (Or upgrade, but that is controlled by the finance department, not IT)
Also with the fact that unity won't load in vmware what so ever, I haven't even had a chance to SEE unity in operation, let alone have any complaints over GUI changes.
Of course with 'not bootable' being the out of the box defaults, if you truely know how to change that out of the box setting to be more like I want (specifically, to boot into a GUI), then I am all ears.
It's similar to the windows vista/7 issues with Aero, but with absolutely no fall back in place when your hardware doesn't support it. Just as I wouldn't try to run Win7 on a Dell p3, now Ubuntu put itself in that same category of software. But that's ok, there are plenty of other Linux distros that will support older hardware.
The real complaint is "They changed it! So now it sucks!"
No the real complaint is that it simply does not work at all without 3d support in the graphics card.
On hardware with less than about a geforce 6000 level card, unity does not work. I manage plenty of hardware at this level designed for win95/98, that of course will not run any newer windows os, but at the moment runs ubuntu just fine.
Boot the 11.04 disc and after the graphic card flipping out for a few minutes, eventually falls back to the classic gnome interface.
This means come 11.10 in only half a year, ubuntu will fail to boot completely on that same hardware, since there will no longer BE a classic gnome interface.
My 'complaint' is that in six months ubuntu will not function on a number of machines I have in production. It's really more of a 'I have 6 months to find a replacement' than a 'complaint'. It might take that long just to get Xorg working on Debian;P (I kid I kid!)
However all of the people stating you can just switch to classic mode will no doubt be the same people posting to slashdot in six months that ubuntu quit working suddenly and unexpectedly, with no warning what so ever it was about to happen... I'd much rather have my contingency plan made and executed instead of worrying about the problem in a rush come October.
Of course if anyone would like to send me money for 18 new(er) computers to replace the Dell p3's we were going to throw out in the trash a few years back that I am using right now to fit within my budget of next to nothing, well that would be great! Because the bean counters in finance sure won't:/
Don't be so quick to laugh. Intel wants to be the sole provider of CPUs for Android phones too! As well as every other device that uses a CPU for that matter.
Their desires don't stop at Apple's products, they simply only stated they want to make chips for Apple's products since at the moment (and for some time in the past) Apple has outsold other smart phones. That trend is of course changing now, and a year from now who knows what will be happening. But I do know Intel will release another 'We want to provide chips for ____' statement with whatever is popular at that time too.
You are assuming that making Windows reliable was an original design objective - I am pretty sure that it was designed to be unreliable
Actually I stated pretty clearly that it was not designed to be reliable, since that would cost more.
I also stated that HAD it been designed to be reliable, the price tag would be close to $2 million or more per copy. Clearly the $179 retail price shows that not to be the case:}
It is a shame that programmers and engineers do not design and code their products so that they will be reliable.
But on the other hand, I can't say I am willing to pay $2 million for a copy of Windows, which is likely the cost per user if it really was designed by the same people and to the same standards as the Voyager code.
It's not cheap to design and develop bug free code. NASA had some very smart people working on these problems for quite some time.
Granted, there are plenty of areas outside of commercial software like Word, where reliability is not just important but critical. While a good amount is designed well and quite reliable, I'll admit it is not as often as it really should be. The insanely huge cost is justified.
The lack of culling the file is a red herring. It is the small 'mistake' they use to divert people from the fact that they were secretly bugging their phones.
There is NO audio data stored what so ever, and no bugging of the phone happening at all.
Apple was continuing to collect location data and transmit that data back to Apple even when the user turned off location services.
At this point you are just purposly lying to make up a problem that doesn't exist. None of what you say is happening, nor claimed by anyone but you.
The phone is not collecting your location data. It is collecting cell tower locations. Not your location. It is also not being sent to Apple, or anywhere for that matter.
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How do you download from a borked machine? How do you boot and restore from your Time Machine backup? How do you reformat and install from scratch?
Well if you have not yet purchased and downloaded Lion, then you will use your existing OS X installer DVD to recover your machine. Once it works again you then go purchase Lion.
When you download it online, it comes as a .dmg disk image file. You pretty much Have to burn it to DVD to boot from it.
So you simply do not throw away the DVD you burnt after you upgrade, and then you have your recovery media for Lion as well.
I sure hope they offer real media, even if they do at additional cost. At 30 USD for the OS I'll happily pay ten bucks more for packaging and media...
No fast Internet? Go to the Apple store, purchase it there, and they will put it on a DVD for you. Perhaps they will charge a small fee for that (I do not know for sure), but as you say, you (And I imagine most people going that route) would not mind a couple extra bucks to have them burn the disc at the store for you.
I didn't sign up with Apple computers 25 years ago because it was "Computers for Dummies". Windows is the corporate computer, and Linux is and always will be for guys with lots of free time and a burning desire to swear like a sailor any time you need to attach hardware.
Over 25 years ago and neither Windows nor Linux even existed, while Apple did and had the leading business desktop computers being made. Back in the beginning their only competition in the work place was large mainframes, which clearly are not personal computers.
That is a huge amount of inertia you overlook, and the main reason people kept using Apple in the workplace for some time.
Those companies that got into personal computing on the desktop only had one option, and they likely stuck with it.
It was only the ones avoiding personal computing that seemed to wait until IBM gave it their blessing with their DOS machines.
It was not until then that DOS overtook Apple.
Slightly after that time (Right at the 25 year mark or so), Linux still did not exist (Though BSD sure did!), and the Windows GUI was still a large number of years behind Apples GUI. Windows was not used much in the business area at first, that was still dominated by MSDOS systems and apps, which was the doing of IBM, not Microsoft directly.
Your choice of OS back at the time you claim would not have been related to the reasons you give (Since none of those existed), but due to the inertia from what was going on at the time.
When you are an accountant and the only spreadsheet app that existed was Visacalc on Apple//, you either wanted it and got it, or did without for a few years until Lotus hit the market on DOS PCs.
then this is perfect for stalking. Call your ex-girlfriend and look where the pin drops.
Looking at the map, it is clear each call is only identified as one of seven of the phone company POPs (points of presence)
For example there are two pin locations in California, one at Santa Cruz, and another at San Diego.
That does not narrow down a location any further than a state, since each POP services at least many cities, if not many states (They are IP phones after all.) The above example covers all of California, and would only tell you northern or southern assuming only covering many cities. If covering many states, it only tells you she is somewhere in South Western in America.
It in no way allows someone to stalk anyone, any more than me saying "I live within a three state radius from New York", without you even knowing I actually live in Ohio
It is the frequency of the pins dropping that is the interesting part. Seeing roughly two calls a second in northern Cali, and even more in New York, they are clearly the most active locations.
And it's really annoying. Outside of screen, ctrl-a (by default) jumps to the front of the line (I love vim, but can't get my head arround set -o vi)
True, it does take some getting used to.
Control-a a is how to do a literal control-a for line editing. But as you say, if you aren't watching and don't realize it for a number of keystrokes, all sorts of havoc can be wrought.
Then to be extra confusing, there is control-a control-a, which is basically 'switch to last window' ;}
Really handy as a 'boss' key however when you need to quickly jump back to the window running the compile
You should check out the rat poison window manager.
If you've ever used screen in a console, you'll be right at home. Where screen uses control-a, ratpoison uses control-t.
Keyboard commands for everything, and no mouse support!
As for the shutdown command, the proper way is shutdown -h now
(-h to halt, -r to reboot)
Of course you can also just run 'halt' to shut down with less typing.
Well, there is a computer that figures out science on it's own, simply through observation. In fact, it has solved certain biological puzzles. It came up with 2 formulas that explain an observation, and they work. No human know why the formulas work, just that they do.
Think upon that.
That sounds extremely interesting! Got any links or search terms I could use to read up on that system?
As sucky as it is that this is going to mean a hit to taxpayers
It wouldn't be a hit to the tax payers if the individuals in administration that were involved with this got fined directly, instead of the school.
I'm pretty sure that installing software when a CD is inserted, for the purposes of copyright protection, however failworthy and undesirable... is not hacking. Not even when you falsely apply the 'rootkit' label to that particular software and somehow by association will it into being a 'hack'.
So when Sony installs software on your computer that enables them to remotely connect to it and issue commands as the administrator, that's good.
But when LulzSec and others install software on Sony's computers that enables them to remotely connect and issue commands as the administrator, that's bad?
When Sony only remotely connect to a few of the hundreds of thousands of hacked computers they rooted, and only exploits a few of them, that's good.
But when LulzSec and others only remotely connect to a few of the hundreds of hacked computers they rooted at Sony, and only exploits a few of them, that's bad?
I just want to make sure I understand you correctly.
Also, do either hack come with a free Frogert?
You also seem to have an interesting definition of 'rootkit'. Since I only know the real definition, could you kindly elaborate on yours?
Alright, more trolling and lies. Lets begin the fun.
Yes you really need to stop trolling and lying, and stop trying to have fun.
It's just embarrassing.
You keep making all these incorrect statements, then denying you ever said it, despite the fact your posts are here for all to see.
At least try to troll correctly and make it interesting for us to read!
Uhm, don't you think it would be cheaper to BUY A FUCKING LICENSE TO THE PATENT? They are ONLY ASKING FOR a very VERY small amount
It would also be cheaper to give the bully at school your lunch money every day.
After all, it's a very small amount
The fact that the bully nor Lodsys are entitled to it I suppose doesn't matter?
Reality is in the big picture, there is no difference between MS OSs and anyone else.
Except that adding another server to handle more load will cost a couple grand per seat on Windows (Hardware plus licensing) where on an OSS platform you only pay for the hardware.
Your argument that it is possible to do is beside the point, since no one is saying Windows can't scale. The point is the cost of doing so.
The poster stated he is using the Microsoft route since that is what he is familiar with. And there is nothing wrong with that, as long as you have firmly in the front of your mind that is what you are doing, and there will be huge costs involved to do that.
Since his question was about costs, specifically keeping them down, you can not expect people to not recommend tools that perform the same function just as well yet are free.
If he wasn't willing to change from what he is familiar with, he wouldn't have asked for cheaper options, and would have just accepted the fact he must pay a lot of money to stay with the familiar.
I actually made a similar setup a couple years ago with an IBM core memory board of 900 bits and a basic stamp.
The magnets on the core memory still held a fairly random pattern of bits once I read it out, and it was last used about 30 years ago, so I can attest to at least holding their magnetic polarity for that long.
I think I remember reading somewhere that the farite material they used to make the beads are known in nature to hold their magnetic polarity through earth pole shifts. Something to do with vertical veins of material deposits, and seeing the shifts in bands that line up with the surrounding rock that has had its age determined via other means and matching up to about the times the earths poles have flipped.
Either way, quite a long time indeed.
Most magnets don't fail by losing their polarity, they fail by degrading into a material that is non-magnetic, and thus would not be able to hold a charge of any type afterward.
Now, they do need refreshed while in operation. Specifically after most read operations.
A write is simple. You send a charge down a wire one way or the other, which changes the beads magnetic polarity.
A read however is a bit more complex. Basically there is a 'sense' wire that goes through literally every bead on the board. When one of the beads has its magnetic polarity changed, they emit a magnetic pulse which is picked up in the sense wire and inducted as an electric current.
So to perform a read, you send a '1' pulse to a bit and watch the sense line.
If nothing happens, then you know the polarity did not change, and thus that bit was and is still a '1'.
If you get a pulse on the sense line however, that means it did change polarity, and so you know the bit read is a '0'. You also know it now contains a '1' since you just changed it, thus you must perform a write of the original '0'.
In my case, I have no idea in what order those bits were addressed by the system, so even though I could read out the stored bits, I can't put them back together into their bytes (Or more likely 5-7 bit 'words'), let alone order those bytes back into a block of memory.
When used in the original hardware however, yes you can power the computer on and your core memory RAM would be just as it was when it was powered off, and continue operating instructions where it left off.
The ultimate computer hibernation mode!
Do you run your own mail server? Most people don't. Now get it over it, we use GMail. Same thing as using other web based services.
There is a big, BIG difference between deciding that it is not worth your while to run a mail server, versus being unable to do so.
I would go one further and say it's an even bigger difference between wanting someone else to run your mail server, versus wanting someone else to remember your passwords for you.
It's also pretty telling when the users of such a service actually beg to keep their original passwords after being told those passwords are compromised.
They must be a different model then, and I'm not remembering the number bit right.
Looking up the specs on Dells site for the 280, everything is a mismatch.
Dell says p4 but these are p3.
Dell says XP but these have 95/98 stickers and OEM keys for same.
Dell also says sata and pci express, but these have neither of those. Regular old pci and one ide bus. Can't even boot from USB.
I'm sure with a bit more RAM they _could_ run XP, though slowly.
If XP was no additional cost, I would likely have just used that since we are still a mostly 2003/XP shop (unfortunately)
I can't say I ever looked up the manufacturer date, but the systems I have were out of production and support for so long, we got them in pallets of 10 for $300 total back in 2008.
I'll fire off another reply tomorrow at work on my next slack-off/slashdot break with the right one.
Actually XFCE is what I am currently looking at for the next image for these systems.
They are mainly just file viewers, and mainly PDF at that. So a very light work load, and nothing that depends that much on the window manager.
They link into the windows file server, but I mount that on a directory with CIFS so again pretty much any file manager should be able to browse it and open files.
As I mentioned though, Ubuntu is no longer the best choice for that, since (IMHO) it's best feature is a zero config Gnome desktop that always just works.
If any setup is required, I might as well go all out and use a lighter weight base system.
I'm thinking Debian with XFCE will fit on a 1gb flash drive and be a nice speed improvement as well.
Thankfully I have half a year to figure out those details.
If you happen to be interested in my setup with those 18 systems, I made a longer descriptive post with some pics over at http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2122988&cid=36017228
I don't know about the wisdom of staying on 10.10 for very long. After the next LTS is out, all of those packages in the repos will disappear.
My current plan is to just stick with the 10.04 LTS for a while.
After that becomes problematic, switching to Debian and XFCE sounds like the best plan for this level of hardware.
You are right in that I too doubt Gnome would work well in 64mb.
They are all Dell optiplex gx280's in the very small form factor, as they are bolted under and to the assembly line seats they are on.
The top of the line has a swing arm with a 19" LCD on it, and a mounting plate below where trays of parts can be mounted.
These systems however have 256mb, and are using either 1 256mb dimm or in some cases 2 128mb dimms. They have either 3 or 4 slots total if I recall correctly.
I only call them 95/98 machines because they all had a "Made for Windows 95/98" sticker on them, along with an old OEM windows key for 98.
I assume if you loaded them up with 4 sticks of 256 they might even run Win2k (pretty slowly, but still)
They are only a tiny bit sluggish with 256mb, and could probably stand having that doubled. Fortunately their workload is pretty light. The heaviest thing that might be done is opening a word doc for viewing, and generally they only view and occasionally print PDFs.
I do not really need the overhead of Gnome. XFCE would do fine for my purposes.
Ubuntu+Gnome just made it easy both on myself (Very little configuration needed) and on the users, whom few if any have any computer experience and so find the standard desktop metaphor more comfortable.
Neither of those two points are requirements however. I don't mind taking on the extra setup work if required, nor the training work either.
If you are interested, I have some pictures of my setup.
Front - how the users see things (Line 1 of 3), and
Back - where you can see the PCs actually mounted (Line 2 of 3)
Their primary use is displaying PDF files on a six seat assembly line.
The design engineers setup a 6 page PDF of the circuit board where each page has a certain number of parts in color which are numbered. You can almost see that in the first picture above. Each seat opens their page, and is responsible for placing those specific parts on the board. The last seat of the line then places his/her parts and the board track then goes into a solder reflow oven.
You can only disable it for another 6 months, and even for these 6 months you can only disable it if you have new hardware.
At work I have 18 Dell p3 machines all running Ubuntu 10.04.
I would prefer 10.10 as it is vastly better, but not being LTS forces you into this upgrade cycle.
11.04 will not even boot into the graphics system on those computers to let you disable unity.
So if I want security updates, I must switch to another distro. (Or upgrade, but that is controlled by the finance department, not IT)
Also with the fact that unity won't load in vmware what so ever, I haven't even had a chance to SEE unity in operation, let alone have any complaints over GUI changes.
Of course with 'not bootable' being the out of the box defaults, if you truely know how to change that out of the box setting to be more like I want (specifically, to boot into a GUI), then I am all ears.
It's similar to the windows vista/7 issues with Aero, but with absolutely no fall back in place when your hardware doesn't support it.
Just as I wouldn't try to run Win7 on a Dell p3, now Ubuntu put itself in that same category of software. But that's ok, there are plenty of other Linux distros that will support older hardware.
The real complaint is "They changed it! So now it sucks!"
No the real complaint is that it simply does not work at all without 3d support in the graphics card.
On hardware with less than about a geforce 6000 level card, unity does not work.
I manage plenty of hardware at this level designed for win95/98, that of course will not run any newer windows os, but at the moment runs ubuntu just fine.
Boot the 11.04 disc and after the graphic card flipping out for a few minutes, eventually falls back to the classic gnome interface.
This means come 11.10 in only half a year, ubuntu will fail to boot completely on that same hardware, since there will no longer BE a classic gnome interface.
My 'complaint' is that in six months ubuntu will not function on a number of machines I have in production. It's really more of a 'I have 6 months to find a replacement' than a 'complaint'. ;P (I kid I kid!)
It might take that long just to get Xorg working on Debian
However all of the people stating you can just switch to classic mode will no doubt be the same people posting to slashdot in six months that ubuntu quit working suddenly and unexpectedly, with no warning what so ever it was about to happen... I'd much rather have my contingency plan made and executed instead of worrying about the problem in a rush come October.
Of course if anyone would like to send me money for 18 new(er) computers to replace the Dell p3's we were going to throw out in the trash a few years back that I am using right now to fit within my budget of next to nothing, well that would be great! Because the bean counters in finance sure won't :/
This is great news... for fans of Android!
Don't be so quick to laugh. Intel wants to be the sole provider of CPUs for Android phones too! As well as every other device that uses a CPU for that matter.
Their desires don't stop at Apple's products, they simply only stated they want to make chips for Apple's products since at the moment (and for some time in the past) Apple has outsold other smart phones.
That trend is of course changing now, and a year from now who knows what will be happening. But I do know Intel will release another 'We want to provide chips for ____' statement with whatever is popular at that time too.
Perhaps most of their infrastructure is virtual, and the button he pressed was the hosts power key, shutting down all the guests at once.
You are assuming that making Windows reliable was an original design objective - I am pretty sure that it was designed to be unreliable
Actually I stated pretty clearly that it was not designed to be reliable, since that would cost more.
I also stated that HAD it been designed to be reliable, the price tag would be close to $2 million or more per copy. Clearly the $179 retail price shows that not to be the case :}
It is a shame that programmers and engineers do not design and code their products so that they will be reliable.
But on the other hand, I can't say I am willing to pay $2 million for a copy of Windows, which is likely the cost per user if it really was designed by the same people and to the same standards as the Voyager code.
It's not cheap to design and develop bug free code. NASA had some very smart people working on these problems for quite some time.
Granted, there are plenty of areas outside of commercial software like Word, where reliability is not just important but critical. While a good amount is designed well and quite reliable, I'll admit it is not as often as it really should be. The insanely huge cost is justified.
The lack of culling the file is a red herring. It is the small 'mistake' they use to divert people from the fact that they were secretly bugging their phones.
There is NO audio data stored what so ever, and no bugging of the phone happening at all.
Apple was continuing to collect location data and transmit that data back to Apple even when the user turned off location services.
At this point you are just purposly lying to make up a problem that doesn't exist.
None of what you say is happening, nor claimed by anyone but you.
The phone is not collecting your location data. It is collecting cell tower locations. Not your location. It is also not being sent to Apple, or anywhere for that matter.
This is just flamebait pure and simple.
I just wanted to say thank you for that link.
I live about 15 minutes from there and never knew this place existed.