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Pranksters Post Giant Windows Logo On Hamburg Apple Store

theodp writes "Working calmly in broad daylight and filming their efforts for YouTube posterity, a fake construction crew attached a large Microsoft Windows logo to the black facade of a soon-to-open Hamburg Apple Store. Neat hack in the MIT vein, but next time the crew might want to take along a pic of the Windows logo — with the adrenaline flowing, some of the colors got rearranged and were hung upside down."

249 comments

  1. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    reminds me of the time Michael Sims pranked Rob Malda by cutting off his balls! That was fucking hilarious!

  2. MIT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF is with the MIT link?

    1. Re:MIT? by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Informative

      This. MIT students have a long and storied history of similar pranks.

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    2. Re:MIT? by PPH · · Score: 1

      WTF is with the MIT link?

      Its Hopeless To Find Purpose.

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    3. Re:MIT? by Dr+Herbert+West · · Score: 0

      Its Hopeless To Find Purpose.

      It's Hard Teaching F**kin Punctuation...

    4. Re:MIT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is OP. Should I just post a link to Jerky Boys? A prank is a prank. I don't care about MIT, add's nothing to the story except a blatant shout out for a tech school.

    5. Re:MIT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's Hard Teaching F**kin Punctuation...

      I think you mean F**kin'.

    6. Re:MIT? by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      See? It really is hard teaching f**kin' punctuation...

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    7. Re:MIT? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

      Oh, you know, things like this:

      http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1994/cp_car/

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    8. Re:MIT? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      âoeNever imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise.â â" Lewis Carroll

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    9. Re:MIT? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 0, Troll

      A. This is not MIT students.
      B. It's *Mildly* amusing, but only if you are juvinial and have lots of time on your hands.

      News For Nerds? Only if you're a nerd still in high school.

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    10. Re:MIT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      It is also mildly amusing for those people who can spell juvenile.

    11. Re:MIT? by Grizzley9 · · Score: 2

      WTF is with the MIT link?

      Relax. It's summer and there are a lot more teenagers on here who have more free time. At least for the next 3 months stay away from Reddit and /. except for brief headline browsing.

    12. Re:MIT? by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 1

      A. What? Look up the fifth definition of vein and read the summary again.

      B. Humour is subjective. Plenty of undergraduates still worship crap that some realised was childish in grade nine. Sounds like someone's had a bad day.

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  3. Would I have to be a fanboy... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... to see hilarity in this?

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    1. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      No. Its just some basic humor/friendly-ish jabbing. Its like when people put those Apple stickers on Microsoft stuff, its not see as vandalism, more as a joke or just done to be done. Nothing was broken or damaged so it really isn't vandalism (to me at least). And from the looks of the video, it wasn't easy to see it would be an Apple store.

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    2. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And when it happened to a windows store you were rolling on the floor?

      I chuckled and move on. Then hopes someone gets a bit of jail time... Still vandalism still funny...

    3. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would cost money (in time) to remove, so although I enjoyed this, it would have increased the costs to both Apple and the builder.

    4. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      When did that happen? Was it hard to pull off? Was it hard to remove? Were customers in the store? Overall, was it a much less wimpy prank?

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    5. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Interesting

      No, but it would help if you enjoyed MIT style pranks. This is one of my favorites. Unlike the typical MIT prank, this one caused damage, though (they used screws). The coolest part of this one, to me, was that they did it in plain daylight.

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    6. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2

      Are you absolutely certain that a prerequisite of that humor isn't hatred of Apple or love of Microsoft?

      It's more likely to be commercially motivated.

      Though hanging the MS flag upside down was probably a Freudian slip...

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    7. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Your.Master · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You might not even find it funny but right now you're playing the role of giant stick in the mud. There's two pieces of that: not allowing any position between utterly unfunny and "hoo-hawing to the point of passing out", and insisting that anybody who doesn't think it utterly unfunny (and who is therefore "hoo-hawing" and "slapping [their] knees") must have a profound irrational emotional position to one or both of these companies.

      It's a damn prank, not an attempt at the a transcendent humour experience. It's petty vandalism, and as such the vandals should pay back Apple any cost to undo the vandalism and accept the legally required slap on the wrist. But there's not much call to read any deeper into it. People do this all the time for sports rivalries that they don't even care about, they slap stickers for company A on their competitors' products, etc..

      It's kind of like this picture that made many slashdotters smile: http://www.linux-magazine.com/var/linux_magazin/storage/images/media/linux-magazine-eng-us/images/news-images/linus-windows-7-rocks/380058-1-eng-US/Linus-Windows-7-rocks.jpg. The difference is just that a little more went into this prank, but it's the same kind of prank.

    8. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and insisting that anybody who doesn't think it utterly unfunny (and who is therefore "hoo-hawing" and "slapping [their] knees") must have a profound irrational emotional position to one or both of these companies.

      Or it was an implication that the video was just boring.

    9. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... to see hilarity in this?

      The fact that people who simply looked like they were supposed to be doing were able to put the logo of the company's rival on the Apple store does have comedic value, but since you are so emotionally invested in Apple you can't possibly see that. I'm sure you - like the rest of us - saw the humor in the 'I'm a Mac' ads for Apple, but of course when someone makes fun of Apple your fanboism prevents you from seeing humor in that.

    10. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      The fact that people who simply looked like they were supposed to be doing were able to put the logo of the company's rival on the Apple store does have comedic value,

      It would if the building looked like an Apple store. It didn't so there was no reason for anybody to think twice about it. if they had pulled that off at the big Apple store in NYC, then they might have earned the title 'classic'.

      I'm sure you - like the rest of us - saw the humor in the 'I'm a Mac' ads for Apple

      Not really, they were pretentious.

      ...but since you are so emotionally invested in Apple you can't possibly see that.

      The problem is that I am not emotionally invested enough.

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    11. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 2

      I don't see what's funny about this either. Then again whenever I see the Windows logo I usually feel pity, not hilarity.

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    12. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would if the building looked like an Apple store. It didn't so there was no reason for anybody to think twice about it.

      It's the well-known site of a new apple store.

      Not really, they were pretentious.

      I didn't ask if you found them funny, I asked if you saw the humor in them...clearly they were meant to have a comedic aspect yet you are unable to see that, or are denying it for some reason.

      The problem is that I am not emotionally invested enough.

      No you're clearly well over-invested, the fact that you even felt the need to post that you were incapable of seeing humor in it in an attempt to reduce it to a humorless attack on apple is evidence enough of that.

    13. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Vandalism? Really? They attached some signboard to a TEMPORARY FACADE, of which the only purchase is to cover the building while under construction. Had they done this to the building itself, you MIGHT have a point, given that the signboard were attached in a way that A) was reasonably difficult to remove or B) actually damages the building (nails, etc).

      It's over-reacting like yours that has made the world see the US as a place where you can get sued for looking at someone funny. Thankfully I like in Canada where we have Justice's of the Peace that screen cases for stupid crap and tell the plaintive to screw off. Saves a TON of time/money the courts can use elsewhere.

    14. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 0

      It's the well-known site of a new apple store.

      It was a building covered in black, clearly under construction. There is not even a clear sign there saying 'Apple Store Coming Soon!" Nobody walking by even bats an eye, except for one person who stops to take a photo. The odds are good she was one of the pranksters. Ho Hum.

      ...clearly they were meant to have a comedic aspect yet you are unable to see that, or are denying it for some reason.

      Sorry, I don't see a lot of comedic value in them. The parodies of those videos were much funnier. It's probably because I know too much about what using a Windows system is really like and those ads were mostly bullshit. You can ding me for this if you like but the actual humor in this is that it means I should have found this particular prank funny.

      ...the fact that you even felt the need to post that you were incapable of seeing humor in it in an attempt to reduce it to a humorless attack on apple is evidence enough of that.

      It's not a fact, it's a desire of yours that you hope is true. What happened was I spent a minute and a half watching a video described as 'destined to become a classic' and it was just.... dull. I'm missing something that would make me find that funny and it's either love of MS or hatred of Apple. It's obvious now that the problem wasn't that I missed a detail in the video.

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    15. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      /like/live/

    16. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the well-known site of a new apple store.

      It was a building covered in black, clearly under construction.

      you seem to be under the perception that that changes the fact that it's the well-known site of a new apple store, of course it has no impact on it whatsoever.

      Sorry, I don't see a lot of comedic value in them. The parodies of those videos were much funnier.

      again, it's not about whether you find it funny, but whether you can see the humor in it. the humor in them is pretty damn obvious satire...how are you incapable of seeing that?

      It's probably because I know too much about what using a Windows system is really like and those ads were mostly bullshit.

      of course they were, that doesn't mean you can't see the obvious humor in them even if you don't find them funny.

      It's not a fact, it's a desire of yours that you hope is true.

      so you didn't post about how you were incapable of seeing the humor? actually you did.

      I'm missing something

      you sure are if you're incapable of seeing comedic value in things where it is so obvious, even if you don't find it funny.

    17. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 0

      you seem to be under the perception that that changes the fact that it's the well-known site of a new apple store, of course it has no impact on it whatsoever.

      Oh I'm quite sure that that particular store is quite important to both Apple Fanboys in Germany and to the people who were challenged to find the importance of this prank.

      again, it's not about whether you find it funny, but whether you can see the humor in it. the humor in them is pretty damn obvious satire...how are you incapable of seeing that?

      Well, I guess I wasn't too clear when I answered this question before so I'll phrase it more directly: No, I don't see a lot of comedic value in these videos and that's mainly because they are acting upon problems that the various incarnations of Windows OS's have provided for people. If I had ever, for example, had to replace the guts of my machine to go from one version of Windows for another, I'd be more inclined to smiles at the image of the fat guy on the operating table.

      so you didn't post about how you were incapable of seeing the humor?

      You should read that post again.

      you sure are if you're incapable of seeing comedic value in things where it is so obvious, even if you don't find it funny.

      I'm sorry I don't hate Apple (or is it love Microsoft?) enough to find that value significantly measurable.

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    18. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      booooooooooooring! (The whole thread)

    19. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Vandalism? Really? They attached some signboard to a TEMPORARY FACADE, of which the only purchase is to cover the building while under construction.

      What's worse is that there isn't even any Apple signage there. Instead of dinging Apple, they basically just gave Microsoft some free advertising. Tee hee giggle snort.

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      "I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)

    20. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by rhook · · Score: 1

      Nothing was broken or damaged so it really isn't vandalism (to me at least).

      The screws they used caused damage to the wall. Someone is going to have to fill those holes and repaint the wall. Although that wall is probably scheduled to be painted white in the near future.

    21. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by rhook · · Score: 1

      It doesn't cost anything to the builder, they get more billable hours of work.

    22. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      eh, those "people placing Apple stickers on Microsoft stuff" are usually the owners of the item. It's more of a "I wish this was a MacBook" type of thing.

      (note: I'm a linux user that has a penguin on my laptop)

    23. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Kitkoan · · Score: 2

      The wall they screwed it on looks like one of the particle boards used to hide what they are doing and not the final part of the wall

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    24. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by node+3 · · Score: 1

      I thought it was pretty funny. Not "hilarious" or anything, but a worthy prank.

    25. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      the importance of this prank.

      i thought it was more funny than important.

      I'm sorry

      apology accepted

      I don't hate Apple

      apple fanboys generally dont

    26. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      i thought

      No, you didn't.

      apple fanboys generally dont

      No rebuttal? I can safely say my question was answered.

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    27. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      I've seen those stickers on random things from store computers, hand dryers, store windows, ect... they aren't the owners of those items and thats the type of people I meant (mostly about store property/computers and its typically done by the workers themselves)

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    28. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The thing that they screwed into is just a temporary wooden facade that hides the construction, not the real storefront. I guess you can technically call that damage, but it's just going to be torn down when the store opens. They didn't do an permanent harm.

    29. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      It's a feature. I'm sure there'll be a service pack along soon...

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    30. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm a builder and I'm on a fixed price contract, you insensitive clod!!!!!

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    31. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but all MIT hacks (including the one you link) are _intelligent_ pranks or just nicely done hacks... Not much to do with this one, which is a bit too silly of a prank. All I see here is a show of (maybe) cute boldness, but nothing really smart!

    32. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They were only trying to make Apple customers look like they had brains.

    33. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They were only trying to make Apple customers look like they had brains.

      The idiots got the colors on the Windows logo wrong... friends of yours?

    34. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I would probably get the most hilarity out of the Apple fanboys' reactions. Those guys are a little high strung.

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    35. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Rary · · Score: 1

      It's petty vandalism, and as such the vandals should pay back Apple any cost to undo the vandalism and accept the legally required slap on the wrist.

      Actually, many stores put temporary walls up around them while they're under construction to block outsiders' views of what's being constructed. The big black wall that they put this logo on appears to me to be one of those temporary walls. It is of no actual value, and will be torn down when the store is ready to be unveiled. Somebody might have to go out there and remove the logo, but it was merely stapled in place, so this will not take any significant time or effort.

      This was a truly harmless prank.

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    36. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see what's funny about this either. Then again whenever I see the Windows logo I usually feel pity, not hilarity.

      That what I feel when I see an Apple logo these days too.

    37. Re:Would I have to be a fanboy... by Jake+Griffin · · Score: 2

      If by "soon" you mean 8-10 months.

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  4. Funny stuff by jhoegl · · Score: 0

    That is pretty funny, although they did use a screwdriver to put up the pieces.
    Vandals or not, Apple just got served

    1. Re:Funny stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Served what?

    2. Re:Funny stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and thats the really odd thing. The colors are mixed up, the green and blue being flipped... but they have different shapes, and the "flare" in the middle means they didn't just install it upside down, it was designed that way. So either this is a double-joke (its the Windows logo... but not), or the pranksters are idiots. Any bets?

    3. Re:Funny stuff by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      The pranksters are idiots. There are 4 separate pieces; the green and blue are rotated 180 degrees from their proper position. If only they'd had a windows 7 task bar to refer to...

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    4. Re:Funny stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The pranksters are idiots. There are 4 separate pieces; the green and blue are rotated 180 degrees from their proper position. If only they'd had a windows 7 task bar to refer to...

      I wouldn't call them idiots. When you're high up on a ladder in a public place, doing something you're not supposed to be doing, worried if you're going to get caught or fall, it's easy to get distracted and make a mistake.

    5. Re:Funny stuff by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      What you need to do is mark the pieces in some way, and do a couple of walkthroughs at home.

      Ummm, so I'm told.

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    6. Re:Funny stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who says Germans a sense of humour have not?

    7. Re:Funny stuff by bstender · · Score: 1

      and who says that their sense of humor is not?

      but considering the mixup of the colors and how crooked it was placed, i'm thinking it couldnt have been Germans at all.

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  5. They got the colours wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should have at least done it properly.

    A giant Tux would have been better.

    1. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Kitkoan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know, a picture of Stallman might have been a better shot. One of the biggest names in OSS over the sign for a company well noted for being the most closed in technology.

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    2. Re:They got the colours wrong. by UESMark · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Isn't an inverted flag a symbol of distress?

    3. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Dr+Herbert+West · · Score: 2

      Hm. Maybe this is secretly a marketing scheme by Apple. Wouldn't be the first time some crappy "viral" marketing video has tricked itself into a /. story.

      As pranks go, it's more of a wasted opportunity-- marking one commercial product's territory with another commercial product is not particularly radical.

    4. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This was an Apple store, not a Google store. Burn!

    5. Re:They got the colours wrong. by MalleusEBHC · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yes, the same Apple that is behind Darwin, WebKit, Bonjour, and countless other open source projects. Don't get me wrong, their iOS devices are a nightmare in this aspect, but OS X is a very open platform.

    6. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      OSX is open you say? Tell me when I can install it on any hardware of my choice without needing a lot of cracks/"patches", until then its not open but very, very closed and locked. As for Darwin and Webkit, those were made by other people, Apple just bought them out. Not quite the same as making it yourself.

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    7. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have to defend something as being open, then it's not open.

    8. Re:They got the colours wrong. by mad+flyer · · Score: 0

      I think you are confused and don't understand really well the difference between freedom and anarchy...

    9. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      I do, I also know that slavery isn't freedom regardless of what Steve Jobs says about the locked down walled garden.

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    10. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just out of interest...do you really believe this?

    11. Re:They got the colours wrong. by jo_ham · · Score: 2

      Sure, take the OS X install DVD, which has no serial numbers, no online activation, no DRM, and no other protection, and make a disk image from it. Remove a text file with the name "please don't copy OS X.txt" (or something like that), and then burn the image to a disk.

      Boot your Hackintosh and install.

      Yes, so many "cracks and patches".

    12. Re:They got the colours wrong. by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      And you think it's slavery when people choose to use a consumer product and/or service? This doesn't just apply to Apple - it applies to any consumer or user choice. I'm not sure you fully understand much beyond some distorted ideology where you're seeing tyrants and evil everywhere.

      Run along now, the adults are talking.

    13. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      *sigh* I said nothing about the consumers of the products or services, I said about Steve Jobs and his comments about the walled garden being the safest option. Instead of reading what I wrote, you have quickly tried to twist my words and shown yourself to be completely ignorant of anything that I posted. User choice had nothing in what I said. Now please leave little troll, the adult are talking.

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    14. Re:They got the colours wrong. by DesScorp · · Score: 2

      I don't know, a picture of Stallman might have been a better shot. One of the biggest names in OSS over the sign for a company well noted for being the most closed in technology.

      And no one would have gotten the joke. People would have said "What's up with the dirty hippie on the Apple store"? Everyone knows the Windows logo. Outside of the Slashverse, a few academics, and some industry people, no one knows who Richard Stallman is or what he stands for. And even if they did, it still wouldn't have been as funny as the Windows logo.

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    15. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do that in a business environment and if Apple finds out they'll come after you for copyright infringement.

    16. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      For people like you, there's *nothing* short of being Open Source that counts as being anything but "very, very closed and locked". It's a mind-virus that can barely discern shades of grey.

      Apple is a very open company. They are far more open than, for example, MS. Just because you can cite one example to the contrary does not make them so super-closed as you seem to think. After all, if they decided to allow install of OS X on non-Apple hardware, you'd just find something else to bitch about.

    17. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      I do, I also know that slavery isn't freedom regardless of what Steve Jobs says about the locked down walled garden.

      Did you already forget that you were calling Mac OS X closed, not iOS? Mac OS X isn't a "walled garden".

    18. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 2

      No, he addressed what you wrote quite well. But I'll go even further:

      iOS, the "locked down, walled garden" that it is, is SIGNIFICANTLY more free for most people than something like Android or Linux in general. What good is the small bit of additional "freedom" to people who can't benefit from it?

      That's the problem with fanatics, they only see things in black and white, and only from their point of view (which is why they can pretend grey doesn't exist).

    19. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      Why? They never have in the past. And in a "business environment", you're likely to find value in using proper Apple hardware.

      Apple tends to favor the carrot much more than the stick. You must be thinking of the other guys.

    20. Re:They got the colours wrong. by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      Who's running hackintoshes in a business environment? If you need OS X for something specific then you're going to just buy Apple hardware. If your goal is to keep costs down then you won't be running hackintoshes, you'd just go with some flavour of Linux on those boxes, or an OEM copy of Windows.

    21. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      Did you already forget we were talking about Apple products, an OSX was only one example? Did I say at any point of that comment anything about OSX to single it out? Or did you mentally add it just to make this comment to me?

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    22. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      That's the problem with fanatics, they only see things in black and white, and only from their point of view (which is why they can pretend grey doesn't exist).

      Pot, meet kettle. How is this locked garden more free for people? It has caused a lack of options to choose different programs as Apple has killed just about any competition in its dealing (look about about the small ebook publishers). It hasn't made the iOS any safer, in fact it made it hazardous (look about the sms of death and how it was left open for 2 days and couldn't be fixed BECAUSE of iOS's locked down nature. And don't say it wasn't a real issue, because if you look on Apples forums there complaints for those 2 days of many iPhones suddenly dying and needed to be restored from iTunes, most likely many of them being because the people using them didn't know about the sms of death bug.) And before you try saying that Android is a problem because it's had pirated programs sold on it, remember, that problem was first (and still is a problem) on the Apple App Stores (good look up about the Laguru game and how it took over a week to be removed and they mentioned it wasn't the only game, it was only the one they were highlighting.) How has this been "more freedom" for people? Seriously, how? Granted I don't expect an answer from you because the last time I called you out on your hypocrisy and cornered you with facts you cowarded out and claimed to not read the message.

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    23. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      Do you know how discussions work? They are based on what was said before.

      ||||| Apple is closed!
      |||| iOS is, but Mac OS X isn't.
      ||| Yes it is.
      || Nonsense.
      | The walled garden is closed!
      me: The walled garden is iOS, you were replying to a statement about Mac OS X.

      The bold entries are you. Do you even read the threads you participate in?

    24. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      That's the problem with fanatics, they only see things in black and white, and only from their point of view (which is why they can pretend grey doesn't exist).

      Pot, meet kettle.

      Oh, do please explain how I'm a fanatic, can't see shades of grey, or can't see other people's points of view. I'll just sit right here.

      How is this locked garden more free for people?

      For most people, is what I wrote. It's more free for them because they can do more with iOS than they can do with other systems, like Android or Linux. I figured this would be obvious when I wrote "What good is the small bit of additional "freedom" to people who can't benefit from it?", but I forgot my audience.

      It has caused a lack of options to choose different programs

      iOS has significantly more options than Android. And of the options that exist, people have more confidence in, and an easier time using, those in iOS.

      as Apple has killed just about any competition in its dealing (look about about the small ebook publishers).

      Bullshit. Apple allows pretty much any type of app on the App Store with a small number of exceptions. They certainly haven't done anything close to "killing just about any competition".

      It hasn't made the iOS any safer, in fact it made it hazardous (look about the sms of death and how it was left open for 2 days and couldn't be fixed BECAUSE of iOS's locked down nature.

      Are you serious? Look at all the malware for Android, and the total of absolutely zero malware for iPhones that haven't been hacked by their users.

      As for your specific example, how many iPhones were hit by this? Wow, two whole days, and nothing happened! Do you think the average person will fare any better with Android? Hell, some phones even *can't* be upgraded unless the user hacks it! And very few people are going to seek out their own updates from the "community". Most people will just update when the phone asks them to (and often not even then).

      And don't say it wasn't a real issue, because if you look on Apples forums there complaints for those 2 days of many iPhones suddenly dying and needed to be restored from iTunes, most likely many of them being because the people using them didn't know about the sms of death bug.) And before you try saying that Android is a problem because it's had pirated programs sold on it, remember, that problem was first (and still is a problem) on the Apple App Stores (good look up about the Laguru game and how it took over a week to be removed and they mentioned it wasn't the only game, it was only the one they were highlighting.)

      "Hey, don't say I'm wrong!" You're just making shit up here. And Lugaru is your example? ONE iOS pirated app, that Apple pulled in a reasonable amount of time, is even *remotely* similar to the *loads* of pirated software for Android?

      How has this been "more freedom" for people? Seriously, how? Granted I don't expect an answer from you because the last time I called you out on your hypocrisy and cornered you with facts you cowarded out and claimed to not read the message.

      *WHAT* hypocrisy? You haven't called me out on *anything*. You have not pointed out even one hypocritical thing I've written. As for me not replying to, don't take it personally, you probably just weren't that interesting. And I've already explained how iOS provides SIGNIFICANTLY more freedom for most people.

      Like I said, what good is a little bit of additional "freedom", if you can't make use of it?

    25. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      Me: OSX isn't open on the hardware level, show me the hardware it runs on openly. (haven't said anything about the software level, like programs and such)

      Do you understand what your talking about? You've twisted what I was talking about just so you could go on some rant, for what? To make yourself feel better? Your the one who turned this into an difference between iOS and OSX's software openness. All I pointed out was about that hardware, the HARDWARE. But you in your blind fanaticism wanted to turn this into something completely different. Someone made a comment about freedom and anarachy, nothing about OSX's software, nothing about what you tried to derail this whole subject into. I then mentioned the walled garden in response to the AC's comment about freedom. I haven't said anything about OSX's software freedom, that was something you made up. Get your head out of your ass.

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    26. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      Oh, do please explain how I'm a fanatic, can't see shades of grey, or can't see other people's points of view. I'll just sit right here.

      Well, I've already pointed out many issues with you before in he past, from Mac hardware prices being higher then other companies (which you tried to twist on me), to not long ago showing you that Mac isn't the most secure OS out there (which you demanded had to be regardless that I had your word against the word of professionals), to this topic where I mentioned about hardware and you've decided that instead of staying remotely on topic you'll derail it into OSX's software. But hey, keep sitting there, I know you'll twist this some more to make yourself feel better

      For most people, is what I wrote. It's more free for them because they can do more with iOS than they can do with other systems, like Android or Linux. I figured this would be obvious when I wrote "What good is the small bit of additional "freedom" to people who can't benefit from it?", but I forgot my audience.

      How can they do more with iOS then Android and linux? You keep saying that it is, but then refuse to point to a single example. How can people do more with iOS then Android or Linux? Then you point out that it there is more freedom on Android and Linux but that no one benefits from it (again, how?). And you end up childish insulting me (again...) Wow...

      Are you serious? Look at all the malware for Android, and the total of absolutely zero malware for iPhones that haven't been hacked by their users. As for your specific example, how many iPhones were hit by this? Wow, two whole days, and nothing happened! Do you think the average person will fare any better with Android? Hell, some phones even *can't* be upgraded unless the user hacks it! And very few people are going to seek out their own updates from the "community". Most people will just update when the phone asks them to (and often not even then).

      There has been malware on iOS, go look it up. And again, I pointed out that there had been people hacked on the Apple forums but again you ignored that fact because your blind to it. I give you fact, I point out where to find it yourself, but still you refused to see it. That is why I pointed out pot meet kettle, because you defined yourself to the letter.

      "Hey, don't say I'm wrong!" You're just making shit up here. And Lugaru is your example? ONE iOS pirated app, that Apple pulled in a reasonable amount of time, is even *remotely* similar to the *loads* of pirated software for Android?

      *sigh...* Again, you ignored the facts. GO LOOK UP THE ARTICLE AGAIN. It wasn't just one app, it was many, the article pointed it out, but as always, facts just get in your way so you ignore them. And I'm not making things up, just because you refuse to look and/or acknowledge them doesn't make them any less real.

      *WHAT* hypocrisy? You haven't called me out on *anything*. You have not pointed out even one hypocritical thing I've written. As for me not replying to, don't take it personally, you probably just weren't that interesting. And I've already explained how iOS provides SIGNIFICANTLY more freedom for most people.

      Look up, read again. If you come back to this same answer, repeat the steps again. And you have yet to prove a single way iOS provides any more freedom. All you have given me is your word that it somehow does. Yet no way to show/say it. I was able to show/say otherwise granted.

      Like I said, what good is a little bit of additional "freedom", if you can't make use of it?

      Wow, again you've contradicted yourself. Your last sentence was "And I've already explained how iOS provides SIGNIFICANTLY more freedom for most people" and now suddenly you're stating that android has more freedom. Your answers change so fast....

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    27. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      Oh node, how I love your trolling. Seriously, like those others posts your trolling of mine, you're taking one small part and twisting it beyond what it was. *sigh* That is the true mind-virus, the inability to see things clearly and twist them to something they aren't just to cause a scene. After reading all your posts, I've just lost the ability to take you serious. Your so quick to alter the fact and insult people. Is this how you act in real life? If so, you are a sad, sad little boy at the end of the day.

      Honestly, lets just take one small look at your joke of a reply. I said hardware and you're knee-jerk reaction was to quickly alter the facts and twist it into a psuedo-argument about OSX's software. I never said a single thing about the software, at least not until you brought it up, Don't you see? Its your "mind-virus" that has caused this whole argument. You've refused to see anything but black and white, friend or foe. If I had mentioned in any of these posts "OSX is a locked down, walled garden OS that doesn't allow any freedom" then sure, I would be wrong and these comments would be fair and expected. But I didn't say that, I said nothing remotely like it. In fact, it had been an argument about the hardware and what did Apple code. It has nothing to do with Open Source, it never did at any point. But you wanted it to be, and your posts show that.

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    28. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      Honestly, lets just take one small look at your joke of a reply. I said hardware and you're knee-jerk reaction was to quickly alter the facts and twist it into a psuedo-argument about OSX's software. I never said a single thing about the software, at least not until you brought it up

      I wonder what the opening line to your post that I was replying to was. I bet it was about Mac OS X.

      OSX[sic] is open you say?

      Strange, that sounds like you are mentioning Mac OS X. But since you say you weren't, I'll just have to assume it was a mirage...

      If I had mentioned in any of these posts "OSX is a locked down, walled garden OS that doesn't allow any freedom" then sure, I would be wrong and these comments would be fair and expected.

      That's a red herring. You don't have to claim that OS X "doesn't allow any freedom" to be wrong. That statement *would* make you wrong, but you're plenty wrong without adding this specific wrong statement to your repertoire.

      But I didn't say that, I said nothing remotely like it. In fact, it had been an argument about the hardware and what did Apple code. It has nothing to do with Open Source, it never did at any point. But you wanted it to be, and your posts show that.

      Like I asked in another reply to you, do you even READ the threads you participate in? The post of yours I was replying to mentioned Mac OS X, Darwin, and WebKit (and I even let your *huge* incorrect statement that "Apple merely bought them out" slide--see what I mean about you being wrong enough as it is?).

    29. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      I wonder what the opening line to your post that I was replying to was. I bet it was about Mac OS X.

      Your right, OSX not running on open hardware (as in non-Apple hardware). Nothing about software (like I pointed out to you.)

      OSX[sic] is open you say? Strange, that sounds like you are mentioning Mac OS X. But since you say you weren't, I'll just have to assume it was a mirage...

      Again,OSX running open... on hardware. Again, like I pointed out to you (and still nothing about the software...)

      If I had mentioned in any of these posts "OSX is a locked down, walled garden OS that doesn't allow any freedom" then sure, I would be wrong and these comments would be fair and expected.

      That's a red herring. You don't have to claim that OS X "doesn't allow any freedom" to be wrong. That statement *would* make you wrong, but you're plenty wrong without adding this specific wrong statement to your repertoire.

      But its not a red herring. I've been talking about open hardware, and you've turned it into open software which had nothing to do with anything I had been talking about. I was showing you how your comments would have been valid with that example.

      Like I asked in another reply to you, do you even READ the threads you participate in? The post of yours I was replying to mentioned Mac OS X, Darwin, and WebKit (and I even let your *huge* incorrect statement that "Apple merely bought them out" slide--see what I mean about you being wrong enough as it is?).

      Aww.... again you read only what you want. I pointed out that Darwin and Webkit were bought buy Apple, I didn't say anything about open source, you did. Here, let me quote my exact words from my post "As for Darwin and Webkit, those were made by other people, Apple just bought them out." Hmmm.... no, no, nope. Nothing about open source there... just pointing out that its not made by Apple (being its hard to offer them as your own when in reality you bought someone elses work out).

      *sits down* This fun, I'm starting to enjoy pointing out your faults in every message and how you've twisted what I say. Please, do some more.

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    30. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      Oh, do please explain how I'm a fanatic, can't see shades of grey, or can't see other people's points of view. I'll just sit right here.

      Well, I've already pointed out many issues with you before in he past, from Mac hardware prices being higher then other companies (which you tried to twist on me),

      You mean by showing that Mac hardware prices *aren't* higher than other companies? When you compare equivalent hardware, Macs are generally cheaper than Dells, for example. Sometimes they are more. You think that if you can find *one* example to the contrary (for example, when the MacBook Pros still had Core2Duos (which was done for technical reasons because Nvidia lost the right to make chipsets for the Core iX cpus, which is what Apple was intending to use)), that this proves "Macs are more expensive".

      This is what I mean by "black and white". You constantly only accept facts that support your preconceptions, and dismiss those that don't.

      to not long ago showing you that Mac isn't the most secure OS out there (which you demanded had to be regardless that I had your word against the word of professionals)

      Please quote where I said Mac OS X is the "most secure OS out there". It is more secure than Windows. This is simple to prove: what are the odds of a Mac being pwned? What are the odds of a Windows PC being pwned? Seems pretty straightforward to me!

      to this topic where I mentioned about hardware and you've decided that instead of staying remotely on topic you'll derail it into OSX's software. But hey, keep sitting there, I know you'll twist this some more to make yourself feel better

      *YOU* are the one who mentioned Mac OS X. I was replying TO YOU.

      How can they do more with iOS then Android and linux? You keep saying that it is, but then refuse to point to a single example.

      Do you know what the word "refuse" means?

      And I provided *TWO* examples: there are MORE iOS apps than Android apps, and the iOS apps are generally easier to use. That's something that actually allows normal people to do more.

      Then you point out that it there is more freedom on Android and Linux but that no one benefits from it (again, how?).

      I never said "no one benefits from it". I said "most people". More than once.

      There has been malware on iOS, go look it up.

      Not for non-jailbroken iPhones. Do you wonder why I keep having to ask if you even READ the posts you are replying to?

      And again, I pointed out that there had been people hacked on the Apple forums but again you ignored that fact because your blind to it.

      No you didn't. You claimed that people had to have their phones reset.

      I give you fact, I point out where to find it yourself, but still you refused to see it. That is why I pointed out pot meet kettle, because you defined yourself to the letter.

      Um, aside from the fact that this was written after you made the pot/kettle statement, YOU DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY USEFUL INFORMATION for finding it. I'm not going to hunt around on Apple's forums to check the assertion of some random slashdotter that can't even seem to read the posts he's directly replying to.

      sigh...* Again, you ignored the facts. GO LOOK UP THE ARTICLE AGAIN. It wasn't just one app, it was many, the article pointed it out, but as always, facts just get in your way so you ignore them.

      WHAT ARTICLE? Do you think you are embedding hyperlinks into your posts or something?

      Look up, read again. If you come back to this same answer, repeat the steps again. And you have yet to prove a single way iOS provides any more freedom. All you have given me is your word that it somehow does. Yet no way to show/say it. I was able to show/say otherwise granted.

    31. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Hognoxious · · Score: 0

      Apple tends to favor the buttplug much more than the dildo.

      FTFY.

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    32. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      Me: OSX isn't open on the hardware level, show me the hardware it runs on openly. (haven't said anything about the software level, like programs and such)

      So, you didn't write:

      OSX is open you say?

      or

      As for Darwin and Webkit, those were made by other people, Apple just bought them out.

      or

      I do, I also know that slavery isn't freedom regardless of what Steve Jobs says about the locked down walled garden.

      ???

      Someone made a comment about freedom and anarachy, nothing about OSX's software,

      Really? So you didn't mention OS X or other Apple software, and neither did one of the people in this thread write:

      Yes, the same Apple that is behind Darwin, WebKit, Bonjour, and countless other open source projects. Don't get me wrong, their iOS devices are a nightmare in this aspect, but OS X is a very open platform.

      Don't you understand that these are software?

      I then mentioned the walled garden in response to the AC's comment about freedom.

      Which was a direct continuation of you saying Mac OS X wasn't free!

      I haven't said anything about OSX's software freedom, that was something you made up.

      So, all those quotes of yours I just "made up"?

      When are you going to start actually READING the posts you are replying to? Do you know what discussions are? What threads are?

    33. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      I wonder what the opening line to your post that I was replying to was. I bet it was about Mac OS X.

      Your right, OSX not running on open hardware (as in non-Apple hardware). Nothing about software (like I pointed out to you.)

      Mac OS X *IS* software! Mac hardware can run any OS you want! The reverse isn't true. It's not that Macs can ONLY run Mac OS X (they can run Windows and Linux just fine), it's that Mac OS X *WON'T* run on non-Macs!

      The limitation you were referencing was a limitation with Mac OS X, not Apple hardware!

      What makes you think that saying you can't run Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware is not saying anything about software?

      But its not a red herring. I've been talking about open hardware, and you've turned it into open software which had nothing to do with anything I had been talking about. I was showing you how your comments would have been valid with that example.

      You mentioned software *MULTIPLE* times before I ever replied to you!

      Like I asked in another reply to you, do you even READ the threads you participate in? The post of yours I was replying to mentioned Mac OS X, Darwin, and WebKit (and I even let your *huge* incorrect statement that "Apple merely bought them out" slide--see what I mean about you being wrong enough as it is?).

      Aww.... again you read only what you want. I pointed out that Darwin and Webkit were bought buy Apple,

      Apple didn't buy WebKit. They forked it from KHTML. And you also left out Bonjour (in the post you were replying to) where Apple started that in house as 100% open source. They also made QuickTime Streaming Server open source, as well as many other Apple-initiated open source projects.

      I didn't say anything about open source, you did.

      That wasn't me, you asshat. One of your replies to someone else was about open source projects. That is saying something about open source software. I have to ask again, do you even read what you write?

      Here, let me quote my exact words from my post "As for Darwin and Webkit, those were made by other people, Apple just bought them out." Hmmm.... no, no, nope. Nothing about open source there...

      Except for Darwin and WebKit, that is!

      just pointing out that its not made by Apple (being its hard to offer them as your own when in reality you bought someone elses work out).

      There are two huge flaws in your argument:

      1. Apple didn't have to buy the projects that they did buy (or fork those that they forked). If they wanted to be proprietary, they could have just used in house solutions, or bought proprietary solutions.
      2. Apple has created open source projects that they didn't have to make open source, and they have kept projects as open source that they didn't have to.

      *sits down* This fun, I'm starting to enjoy pointing out your faults in every message and how you've twisted what I say. Please, do some more.

      How would you ever know if someone is "twisting what [you] say" when you don't even seem to know what you've said in the first place?!

    34. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Kitkoan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Wow, you are too much fun. So... lets start.

      You mean by showing that Mac hardware prices *aren't* higher than other companies? When you compare equivalent hardware, Macs are generally cheaper than Dells, for example. Sometimes they are more. You think that if you can find *one* example to the contrary (for example, when the MacBook Pros still had Core2Duos (which was done for technical reasons because Nvidia lost the right to make chipsets for the Core iX cpus, which is what Apple was intending to use)), that this proves "Macs are more expensive". This is what I mean by "black and white". You constantly only accept facts that support your preconceptions, and dismiss those that don't.

      Ok, lets take your words here. Macs are cheaper then Dells. Lets see this with the facts and not your words (I'll be using Alienware since it is Dell and is more easy to mix and match parts to the Mac version, you can even see the link here): Now, here is the starting point of an Alienware M17x (they don't make 15 inch models, just 14 and 17 now, which would leave me comparing to either a 13 inch or 15 inch MBP which isn't fair, so both are 17 inch models). I will also not be upgrading the Mac since the last time I did this with you, you declared it wasn't fair since Apple does have high upgrade fees. These are also BOTH customization sites so to compare you will have to follow the specs I'm listing and not alter them beyond what I'm listing or the answers will be different

      Alienware

      CPU: Intel® Coreâ i7 2720QM 2.2GHz

      RAM: 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz (2DIMMS)

      Graphic card: 1GB GDDR5 AMD Radeonâ HD 6870M

      HD: 750GB 7,200RPM HDD

      Screen: 17.3-inch WideFHD 1920 x 1080 60Hz WLED

      Wireless card: Wireless 802.11 g/n

      Optical drive: Slot-Load Dual Layer DVD Burner (DVD+-RW, CD-RW) (can't tell speed)

      Price: $1,899.00

      This is were I am selection the MBP 17inch model.

      CPU: 2.2GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7

      RAM: 4GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2X2GB

      Graphics card: AMD Radeon HD 6750M with 1GB GDDR5

      HD: 750GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 RPM

      Screen: MacBook Pro 17-inch Hi-Resolution Glossy Widescreen Display (1920x1200)

      Wireless card: Sorry, couldn't spot it so won't use it to compare at the end.

      Optical drive: SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)

      Price:$2,499.00

      Both have backlit keyboards and free engravings (I'm pretty sure the Mac does at least11)

      Now, in the end, for the most part they are about as even as I could make them (with a small amount of issues, the Dell has a better graphics card, the MBP has a higher screen pixel count). Price difference is $600. And it was you who pointed out the Dell would be more then the Apple. This was your choice. I'm just showing the fact. I could go through all the different model and will always have these kinds of differences. But if you wish, please prove me wrong while trying to keep the comparisons fair, I did by making sure to keep the MBP non-upgraded and altered the Dell configuration to the MBP's level as evenly and fairly as I could. See if you can do it, I'm not dismissing anything you'll show me if it's done in a fair manor. (unlike the last time I gave you mostly this exact comparison where you altered the Dell to have an i3 and lowered everything you possibly could and then upped the MBP settings to make it seem like price wasn't a good comparison since your new models didn't match hardware wise).

      to not long ago showing you that Mac isn't the most secure OS out there (which you demanded had to be regardless that I had your word against the word of professionals)

      Please quote where I sai

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    35. Re:They got the colours wrong. by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Sorry, just have to chime in here. Uhhh...you DO know that Apple is bringing the app store to OSX via lion, yes? So frankly any arguments of iOS VS OSX are about to be made moot anyway. Apple WILL lock down OSX, just as they have iOS, Apple WILL control the whole smash, again just as with iOS, and Apple fanboys WILL declare that locking them into a walled garden is the greatest thing since sliced bread and we're all haters who just "don't get Steve's vision".

      So frankly you can make all the flaming logic hoops you want friend, OSX in 2 years will be nothing but iOS in a different package. The only thing that worries me is seeing screencaps of Win 8 it looks like if someone doesn't fire Ballmer but quick Windows will be nothing but a WinPhone in a different case. In BOTH cases the future goal is pretty clear, a machine which you have about as much control over as your average ATM. You push the button, that's it. Frankly I'd say the only ones who'd benefit would be the Linux guys, but my guess is the way congress whores itself out for garbage like the PROTECT IP laws in all likelihood by 2015 all the devices will have Fritz chips in them and Linux won't run on anything but highly expensive dev boards and little ARM crap chips.

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    36. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      Alright, more trolling and lies. Lets begin the fun.

      Wow, you picked and chose random, and sometimes partial sentences, and decided to try to make them something they weren't. Such a bad little troll you are node.

      I did say OSX about not being open, on hardware (why I mentioned installing it on non-Apple hardware.) Never mentioned a word about OSX as a software. That was youj and your trolling lies.

      I did say "As for Darwin and Webkit, those were made by other people, Apple just bought them out." I didn't say they weren't closed or locked down or walled gardened, ect... I said they were bought out by Apple. Am I wrong? Is Darwin not made from the Mach kernal made by the Carnegie Mellon University? And was Webkit not made by KDE?

      I did say "I do, I also know that slavery isn't freedom regardless of what Steve Jobs says about the locked down walled garden." Hmmm... I don't see me saying "OSX is the locked down walled garden" you added that, I was speaking about iOS and iOS's products. If you had read my first comment that started all this I said that Apple is "a company well noted for being the most closed in technology." Now, technology means more then one type of technology. It means things like hardware (Apple hardware) and other things like software (iOS). Now these 2 different types of technology can be owned/controlled by the same company. Now if you wanted to wedge what I had hinted at as being something it obviously wasn't, then that is your choice.

      Yes, the same Apple that is behind Darwin, WebKit, Bonjour, and countless other open source projects. Don't get me wrong, their iOS devices are a nightmare in this aspect, but OS X is a very open platform

      Don't you understand that these are software?

      I do understand that those are software. Don't you understand that the comment you are referring to had been talking about Apple's locked down hardware and hardware isn't software?

      I then mentioned the walled garden in response to the AC's comment about freedom.

      Which was a direct continuation of you saying Mac OS X wasn't free!

      No it wasn't. It had nothing to do with what I had been saying about OSX. It was a nudge towards iOS (remember this whole topic was about Apple's technology and thats why even when I started listing Apple products, there were both hardware and software). You just want it to be OSX I said that about, and your desperate for it to have been that you've twisted the truth and lied in every comment you've made to me in hopes that it could somehow change the past and what I've said so it might one day be that I might have said that. But I never did.

      haven't said anything about OSX's software freedom, that was something you made up.

      So, all those quotes of yours I just "made up"?

      No, you didn't make them up, you twisted them up. Turned them into lies. Why? Because its all you seem to understand, and thats why I keep pointing out your a troll. Because you've lied in every thing you've said and twisted the truth so much that its hard to see where this had started from.

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    37. Re:They got the colours wrong. by perryizgr8 · · Score: 1

      No, he addressed what you wrote quite well. But I'll go even further:

      iOS, the "locked down, walled garden" that it is, is SIGNIFICANTLY more free for most people than something like Android or Linux in general. What good is the small bit of additional "freedom" to people who can't benefit from it?

      That's the problem with fanatics, they only see things in black and white, and only from their point of view (which is why they can pretend grey doesn't exist).

      War is peace.
      Freedom is slavery.
      Ignorance is strength.

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    38. Re:They got the colours wrong. by Crouty · · Score: 1

      the "locked down, walled garden" that it is, is SIGNIFICANTLY more free for most people than something like Android or Linux in general. What good is the small bit of additional "freedom" to people who can't benefit from it?

      What you are talking about isn't freedom but possibilities and a completely different matter. For beginners an idiot-proof user interface is the most important thing, for advanced users it is freedom. This is nicely reflected in iOS/Android sales.

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    39. Re:They got the colours wrong. by perryizgr8 · · Score: 0

      maybe dell is cheaper because their quality sucks?? i bet the macbook will last much longer than the dell and will have lesser hardware issues the question is: are you willing to pay $600 extra for that?

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    40. Re:They got the colours wrong. by jeremyp · · Score: 2

      DO know that Apple is bringing the app store to OSX via lion, yes?

      The App Store already exists. It does not lock down OS X in the same way as iOS is locked down.

      Apple WILL lock down OSX

      No they won't.

      It would be suicidal to lock down OS X in the same way as iOS.

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    41. Re:They got the colours wrong. by chickenarise · · Score: 1

      Lol, I can't believe you waste your time replying to this troglodyte. He revels in his own ignorance (as one can see in his sig) and yet you expect to reasonably debate him?

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    42. Re:They got the colours wrong. by c.r.o.c.o · · Score: 1

      maybe dell is cheaper because their quality sucks?? i bet the macbook will last much longer than the dell and will have lesser hardware issues the question is: are you willing to pay $600 extra for that?

      Do yourself a favour and never visit a Vegas casino because your bet is wrong. The differences between most manufacturers (including Dell and Apple) are very small.

      http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/laptop-reliability-survey-asus-and-toshiba-win-hp-fails/

      Keeping in mind Apple only sells higher end notebooks and desktops, while Dell sells everything from high end notebooks and desktops to bargain basement netbooks. So I would have expected Apple to have far fewer problems than Dell, but the difference is less than 2%. Afterall, the main justification in charging higher prices is the better materials and build quality.

      So if I had $2500 to spend on computing gear, I'd save the $600 and buy a Nexus S smartphone for the difference.

    43. Re:They got the colours wrong. by dissy · · Score: 1

      Alright, more trolling and lies. Lets begin the fun.

      Yes you really need to stop trolling and lying, and stop trying to have fun.
      It's just embarrassing.

      You keep making all these incorrect statements, then denying you ever said it, despite the fact your posts are here for all to see.

      At least try to troll correctly and make it interesting for us to read!

    44. Re:They got the colours wrong. by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 1

      Lack of hardware support doesn't make OS X not an open platform. Apple suing people who dare install it on non-Macs, however...

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    45. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      the "locked down, walled garden" that it is, is SIGNIFICANTLY more free for most people than something like Android or Linux in general. What good is the small bit of additional "freedom" to people who can't benefit from it?

      What you are talking about isn't freedom but possibilities and a completely different matter. For beginners an idiot-proof user interface is the most important thing, for advanced users it is freedom. This is nicely reflected in iOS/Android sales.

      Freedom *is* possibilities. They are certainly not completely different matters. And you're mistaken about the difference being between beginners and advanced. The difference is in how the user *can* (beginner vs advanced) or *wants* (which makes no differentiation between beginner or advanced) to interact with the device.

      The idea that iPhones are for beginners, and Android is for advanced users is silly. And it's unclear what you mean by this being reflected in sales. In fact, it's not just unclear, but makes no sense. Do you think most Android users are "advanced"?

      Not wanting to fuck around with your device doesn't make you a "beginner". Wanting simplicity, reliability, and quality does not make you a "beginner".

    46. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      Possibility is freedom.

      Unusuable options are not freedom. Freedom isn't some imaginary thing, it does you no good to have a freedom you can't use.

    47. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, just have to chime in here. Uhhh...you DO know that Apple is bringing the app store to OSX via lion, yes?

      Wow, really? I never heard of such a thing!

      I've been using it in Snow Leopard. I think it's fairly safe to assume I'm well aware of many of the new features in Lion.

      So frankly any arguments of iOS VS OSX are about to be made moot anyway. Apple WILL lock down OSX, just as they have iOS, Apple WILL control the whole smash, again just as with iOS, and Apple fanboys WILL declare that locking them into a walled garden is the greatest thing since sliced bread and we're all haters who just "don't get Steve's vision".

      You are full of shit.

      So frankly you can make all the flaming logic hoops you want friend, OSX in 2 years will be nothing but iOS in a different package.

      So any discussions today are limited to the lunatic ravings about the way it *might* be in the future?

      If that day ever comes (and it won't), only THEN will it be relevant.

      The only thing that worries me is seeing screencaps of Win 8 it looks like if someone doesn't fire Ballmer but quick Windows will be nothing but a WinPhone in a different case.

      I will give you credit for at least being consistent in your lunacy.

      In BOTH cases the future goal is pretty clear, a machine which you have about as much control over as your average ATM. You push the button, that's it. Frankly I'd say the only ones who'd benefit would be the Linux guys, but my guess is the way congress whores itself out for garbage like the PROTECT IP laws in all likelihood by 2015 all the devices will have Fritz chips in them and Linux won't run on anything but highly expensive dev boards and little ARM crap chips.

      There will *NEVER* come a day where you won't be able to run Linux on off the shelf hardware. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER.

      You have gone quite mad over the course of the past year.

    48. Re:They got the colours wrong. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      You are the most dishonest person I have ever encountered on Slashdot, and that's saying a *LOT*. You constantly deny ever saying the things you say, you deny the context of the threads you are in. You act as though you have one of those short-term memory diseases where you can't remember what happened just 5 seconds ago.

      I truly can't believe anyone is as stupid as your posts portray you as, so I can only conclude you are a deliberate troll.

      We're done here.

    49. Re:They got the colours wrong. by konohitowa · · Score: 1

      The App store is already in Snow Leopard.

  6. Figures by topham · · Score: 4, Funny

    What? They didn't include the video when, 20 minutes later the whole black facade turned blue with cryptic text all over it?

    1. Re:Figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      What? They didn't include the video when, 20 minutes later the whole black facade turned blue with cryptic text all over it?

      Worse than that after the first two minutes the entire store was infected with viruses and malware.

    2. Re:Figures by Dr+Black+Adder · · Score: 1

      Becasue they were trying to record it on a Windows Phone 7, they were looking at that magical blue screen!

    3. Re:Figures by pinkushun · · Score: 1

      They couldn't stick around waiting for the facade to reboot after the upgrade.

  7. That's great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's see Banksy top this one!

  8. Now had it been a penguin... by msobkow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Had it been a penguin, then it would have been funny...

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    1. Re:Now had it been a penguin... by nomadic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And nobody would have understood it.

    2. Re:Now had it been a penguin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not the BSD daemon? That would at least be more honest, and just as obscure.

    3. Re:Now had it been a penguin... by DriedClexler · · Score: 1

      In contrast to the *deep* understanding people infer in the purpose behind a giant Windows logo on a future Apple store location? W kind of message is that supposed to signify, exactly? "Learn about Windows"? "Apple couldn't stop someone from messing with their stuff"?

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    4. Re:Now had it been a penguin... by mmj638 · · Score: 1

      Hehe

      NOW it's funny

    5. Re:Now had it been a penguin... by IICV · · Score: 1

      Pretty much. I've seen people using Tux iconography in totally non-computer related areas, and half of the time they don't even seem to realize that it's a mascot for something - it's just this cute picture of a penguin they found online.

    6. Re:Now had it been a penguin... by atomicbutterfly · · Score: 1

      I've seen people using Tux iconography in totally non-computer related areas

      I've seen Tux used on the front cover of a recipe book for cakes. I regret not having a camera phone on me at the time (and I wasn't going to buy a book just from the cover, though cakes are always nice...)

    7. Re:Now had it been a penguin... by geert · · Score: 1

      You can find Tux on women's underwear (Hunkemöller, IIRC) and Belgian chocolates (http://www.belfine.com/en/products/index.asp?t=1&sg=VAL&hg=Reep)

    8. Re:Now had it been a penguin... by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 1

      Had it been a penguin, then it would have been funny...

      Had it been a penguin, 98% of the people passing by the installation would have thought it was an ad for the next Pixar movie.

    9. Re:Now had it been a penguin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what I was wondering. What does an advertisement for Jim Carrey's latest movie have anything to do with it?

    10. Re:Now had it been a penguin... by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      Well to be fair, Tux-labeled cake is probably how most Linux users got to be the size they are.

  9. Folks from the UK .... cigarette shag? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    No you just don't have to be a faggot fuck, I guess you don't think it's funny do ya faggot fuck?

    So, you UK folks just curious...

    Faggots are slang for cigarettes in your neck of the woods, yes? So, do you read the above post as:

    "No you just don't have to be a cigarette shag, I guess you don't think it's funny do ya cigarette shag?"

    1. Re:Folks from the UK .... cigarette shag? by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      The slang is fags, not faggots. Faggots is slang for gays in the UK.

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    2. Re:Folks from the UK .... cigarette shag? by stonedcat · · Score: 2

      Shut your cigarette gob, you shagging cigarette.

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    3. Re:Folks from the UK .... cigarette shag? by tragedy · · Score: 0

      Fag is just an abbreviation for faggot or fagot, which is a bundle of materials, generally sticks, bound together for the purposes of burning or firing in some manner. The definition could certainly stretch to include bundles of leaves, by which token a cigarette is literally a fagot. In any case, using fag for a cigarette is much more common than using faggot, but I've certainly heard both terms used in England for both cigarettes and homosexuals. As it happens, they are almost certainly literally the same word with the same origin. The likely derivation for homosexuals is apparently from a slang derogatory term for a woman, referring to her as a "faggot" in the same way some might refer to her as "old baggage". So, the usage for a cigarette is saying that something is literally a bundle of stuff to be burned, and the one for a homosexual is metaphorically saying that he is a woman by way of a second metaphor saying that a woman is a bundle of sticks to be carried around.

    4. Re:Folks from the UK .... cigarette shag? by BizzyM · · Score: 1

      That's quite queer. Thanks for etymology.

    5. Re:Folks from the UK .... cigarette shag? by Patch86 · · Score: 1

      And offal-based meatballs (delicious!).

    6. Re:Folks from the UK .... cigarette shag? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      but I've certainly heard both terms used in England for both cigarettes and homosexuals.

      If you have, you were listening to people even more ignorant than you.

      Fag is the cigarette. Faggot is a kind of meatball.

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    7. Re:Folks from the UK .... cigarette shag? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      No, faggots is slang for gays in the US. You'd only hear someone use "faggot" here in the UK if they had spent far, far too much time watching shitty American TV and listening to shitty gangsta rap.
      No offence.

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    8. Re:Folks from the UK .... cigarette shag? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Brains faggots! Give me more Brain's faggots!

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    9. Re:Folks from the UK .... cigarette shag? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's Mr. Brain, to you.

    10. Re:Folks from the UK .... cigarette shag? by tragedy · · Score: 1

      Faggots are indeed also a kind of meatball. Once again, deriving from the same base meaning: a bunch of stuff rolled up and bound together. In this case a bunch of minced meat (well, animal product certainly... almost certainly anyway) rolled up and bound in a membrane. They're sort of like haggis in the sense that, while they're a traditional food and most people know of them, most modern English people don't actually regularly eat them or even ever eat them, just like most most modern Scottish people don't have haggis all that often. Anyway, using the term for cigarette is not as common as the abbreviation "fag" (incidentally, are you disputing that it's an abbreviation?), but I've certainly heard it used. I would argue that doesn't make me ignorant, but I suppose you're using a variation on the "No True Scotsman" argument from your end. So, if an Englishman (or woman actually, as the case may be) uses the term "faggot" to refer to a cigarette then they are No True Englishman, therefore they don't count for a discussion of whether any Englishman uses the term "faggot" for cigarette. I personally think that line of reasoning is idiotic and that therefore Hognoxious is an idiot. Of course maybe I'm only descending to insults because Hognoxious did first and I don't really mean it. Usually I try to keep the discussion civil even if it didn't start out that way because you can sometimes get some surprisingly reasonable discussion out of people who started in the conversation with flaming.

      I should note also that I am technically English as I was born while my parents were students at Cambridge, but they were New Zealanders themselves. I've lived in England, New Zealand and France before ending up in the United States where I've been for quite some time. In any case, I haven't actually visited England at all in nearly thirty years now, so I really am No True Englishman. I also don't smoke.

      Interesting things I found out from some quick research on the word is that it goes back to the term Fascis which was a type of axe used by the Romans, often symbolically to represent justice or state power. It's where we get the term fascism. The axe handle was made of a number of strips of birch bound together to make one solid column. Apparently the Romans got the word from the greek phákelos which just means a bundle. Fascinating stuff to learn really. I find the fluid, organic, messy nature of language simultaneously fascinating and extremely frustrating. Frustrating because it means it's almost impossible to ever pin down the exact meaning of anything, or even to properly trace the development of words and language, but fascinating too because, fuzzy as it is, we've still managed to turn our grunts and scribblings on walls into this amazing system of communication.

  10. Nice Round-Up of Tux "Vandalism" by theodp · · Score: 4, Funny
  11. Re:Colors? by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

    I doubt MS paid a cent for this. Its like when people put those Apple stickers they get in an iPod/Phone on things. Its not done because Apple paid them to do it. In fact, these people may very well have done this in a counter-culture-ish move of those Apple stickers. Or it could have been some people doing something randomish like a flash mob, or even Apple-haters.

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  12. It's inverted and sideways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Screw upside-down. The whole logo is in reflection horizontally, then rotated pi/2.

    Side note: why does /. not support Greek symbols?

    1. Re:It's inverted and sideways by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 1

      pi/2 ... Side note: why does /. not support Greek symbols?

      Why not just say 90 deg?

    2. Re:It's inverted and sideways by lahvak · · Score: 1

      ... 90 deg

      What's that?

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    3. Re:It's inverted and sideways by c0lo · · Score: 1

      ... 90 deg

      What's that?

      10 degrees centigrade (that's Celsius) under the boiling temperature of water?

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    4. Re:It's inverted and sideways by perryizgr8 · · Score: 1

      pi/2 sounds much nicer?

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  13. "Some of the colors got rearranged" by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 1

    That's a feature.

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    1. Re:"Some of the colors got rearranged" by exomondo · · Score: 1

      That's a feature.

      No, they were taking a page from the book of Jobs...'you're looking at it wrong'.

  14. silver and apple by Sase · · Score: 2

    If only they did it multi layerd..
    as each layer was peeled off on the fascade..multiple prompts to surface...
    Are you sure you want take this logo down?
    This type of application can harm your computer...

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  15. Of Course Windows Needs Guerrilla Marketing by Nova+Express · · Score: 0

    How else is the plucky underdog Microsoft going to compete with the Juggernaut that is Apple, Inc.?

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    1. Re:Of Course Windows Needs Guerrilla Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How else is the Juggernaut Microsoft going to compete with the Juggernaut that is Apple, Inc.?

      The other way sounds snarky and seems to imply Apple isn't a juggernaut in the business world and is the "plucky underdog".

    2. Re:Of Course Windows Needs Guerrilla Marketing by shay_rossignol · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure Microsoft isn't a plunky underdog...they do hold the market share in software...besides, everyone knows that they don't compete, they just buy all their rivals.

    3. Re:Of Course Windows Needs Guerrilla Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>--POINT-->
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  16. Once Every Few Years by The+O+Rly+Factor · · Score: 3, Informative

    Microsoft pays someone to go do a PR prank like this. Remember when they paid a crew to drop a giant Internet Explorer logo on the front lawn of Mozilla's campus?

    Frankly, a company with the corporate culture like Microsoft's pulling stunts like this puts an image in my head of creepy late 30's to early 40's guys pretending like they're in a college frat again.

    1. Re:Once Every Few Years by artor3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Haha, yeah, remember that one time fifteen years ago!?

      Of course, there's no reason to believe these guys were paid, and even if they were it's just a bit of fun that I'm sure Apple employees got a chuckle out of. But not the fanbois! No sirree, everything is a war, and if MS does something like this, it's "creepy".

    2. Re:Once Every Few Years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "when we do it, it's grass roots; when they do it, it's astroturfing bawwww!"

    3. Re:Once Every Few Years by Cold-NiTe · · Score: 1

      Yeah they made a movie about creepy guys like that, it's called Old School, and it was hilarious. This may not be Hollywood, but people over the age of 30 are allowed to have a sense of humor I hope. Especially if they work in the Tech industry, then it almost seems like it comes with the territory.

      (In case anyone thinks that statement is personal, I'm 24.)

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    4. Re:Once Every Few Years by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      (In case anyone thinks that statement is personal, I'm 24.)

      Bless you, child.

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    5. Re:Once Every Few Years by MrMista_B · · Score: 1

      Creepy? Yeah, it kind of is, actually. I mean, it's cute, but... are they trying to make a point, aside from looking somewhat incompetent? Even worse if they're doing this on their own time for free, you think they'd do a better job in that case.

    6. Re:Once Every Few Years by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      As an identified "fanboi" (I have occasionally passed a pro-Apple, or Apple-neutral comment, so that seems to qualify), I don't see this as "creepy" or "war" at all. It certainly has an air of 'aha, I see what you did there! It's funny because that's the Windows logo on an Apple store, and they're like, totally rivals!' way, but I thin I (and about a million other people) beat them to it - my Dell printer has an Apple sticker on it, as does my Sony MiniDisc deck.

      Fun that they did it in public, but getting the logo wrong was a bit of a gaffe, surely!

    7. Re:Once Every Few Years by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

      What if they were trying to prevent being sued by MS?

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    8. Re:Once Every Few Years by mcrbids · · Score: 1

      As a late-30s-to-early-40s guy, I wonder what monopoly college frats have on having a bit of fun? What about this kind fun prank makes it "creepy"?

      Seriously, WTF?

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    9. Re:Once Every Few Years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've worked in the business (I know... I'd say "please kill me"... if living with it wouldn't already be punishment enough.. ;), and this is a classical guerrilla marketing thing. It has nothing at all to do with "pranksters" (after all, such a giant poster costs a shitload of money), and all with Microsoft.

      It seems to work though, as nearly everybody here seems to act, as if they were just some random people.

    10. Re:Once Every Few Years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If mega corporations staging blatantly obvious viral marketing campaigns trying to pass themselves off as pranksters having fun isn't creepy enough for you, how about armies of corporate stooges willing to rush to their defense on Internet forums?
      Now that's creepy.

    11. Re:Once Every Few Years by Saxerman · · Score: 1

      I haven't purchased a Microsoft product for over 10 years now due to my own Linux zealotry and open source fanaticism. I'm quick to criticize Microsoft for their villainy over the years, but even I have to admit this prank is pretty funny no matter if Redmond footed the bill.

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    12. Re:Once Every Few Years by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      But it's ok for Apple to run years long advertising campaigns on tv trying to portray the average windows user as a middle aged balding guy while Apple is young and hip?

      I don't see the difference. Both are trying to get press at the other one's expense.

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    13. Re:Once Every Few Years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahaha, how did they look incompetent? They wore safety vests and used a barrier next to the ladder. Safety first!

    14. Re:Once Every Few Years by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      If people can't see the humor in this, they have a big problem. This is rip roaring funny! And I'm an Apple fan. Now if someone can show Windows 1.1 screenshots posing as OSX lion sneak previews.

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  17. If it were another country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet that if it were in the USA (or UK...) the pranksters would be sent to jail for a few days, perhaps even on the pretext of a possible terrorist threat.

  18. Meh by JoeCommodore · · Score: 1

    It's just a prank in my book, didn't damage anything, doesn't change the fact that Apple is building a store there, not Microsoft.

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  19. Pi by tepples · · Score: 0

    Side note: why does /. not support Greek symbols?

    Slashdot uses a character whitelist because of past abuses of Unicode bidirectionality control characters. (Google site:slashdot.org erocs for details.) Greek isn't in the whitelist because Slashdot is in English, which is written in Latin, not Greek.

    Or maybe you could just say "transposed" or "reflected across the main diagonal".

    1. Re:Pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So, again:
      Why does /. not support Greek symbols, which are widely used by English-speaking nerds discussing any number of STEM fields?

      Or, long form, "why does /. not support Greek symbols, curved quotes, and hundreds of other non-exploitable characters by adding them to their whitelist?"

      Alternatively, blacklisting only exploitable characters, or even better, implementing a parser that understands them and lets them be used, but forcibly restores proper directionality?

      Answer in all cases is "/. crew is lazy", not "Slashdot is in English".

    2. Re:Pi by tepples · · Score: 1

      Alternatively, blacklisting only exploitable characters

      A blacklist fails once the next version of Unicode introduces new exploitable characters.

      Answer in all cases is "/. crew is lazy"

      Yet we continue to post comments here.

  20. Funny by danbuter · · Score: 0

    I think it's funny. I bet Woz does too.

  21. Re:Colors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not funny enough to piss off the fan boys.

  22. Re:Colors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you mad?

  23. Not a Penguin by Ingenu · · Score: 1

    This is a slight to Apple. Apple has no problem with traditional linux, they have a problem with Microsoft. Therefore, linux geek or not, Microsoft would be the appropriate symbol to paste on an Apple store to get a reaction from their fanbase (Google would probably work also, but not Tux).

  24. The question is worth asking by cshark · · Score: 2

    Who in their right mind would even try that in broad daylight, if it wasn't legitimate?
    Beautiful piece of mischief.

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    1. Re:The question is worth asking by nick0909 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A lot of great urban "redecorating" has gone on in the middle of the day. If you do something at night, people automatically assume you are up to no good. If you are dressed like construction workers doing something in the middle of the day, you are just another noisy thing in the way of them getting to their coffee and they ignore you. One of the more famous ones I can recall from my area was in Los Angeles, there is a horrible interchange that gets everyone lost, so a guy made a CalTrans spec sign and hung it himself (http://www.good.is/post/the-fake-freeway-sign-that-became-a-real-public-service/). A more recent one was a surfing Madonna mural put up in Encinitas (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/apr/25/surfing-madonna-appears-encinitas/).

    2. Re:The question is worth asking by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

      I was going to bring up the Downtown LA freeway "vandal" as well, here is the original LA Times story. What's funny is Caltrans recently redid all of the signage on the 110 though downtown, and though they replaced his particular sign, they completely adopted his informational scheme for the 110-four level interchange, to the point that the signs downtown are almost strange in their helpfulness compared to the signs on the 405 on the Westside or around the 101 in the Cahuenga pass.

      It's the sort of defacement of public property I can get behind. But it looks like they've also doubled the barbed wire on all of the signs :P

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    3. Re:The question is worth asking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      totally apple store = a leper stop

    4. Re:The question is worth asking by ledow · · Score: 1

      Nobody ever challenges someone who *looks* like they should be doing something. Wear a hi-vis jacket. Carry a piece of paper that's had coffee spilled on and says something vaguely on the right lines (no-one will check anyway). Knock on the door of the place next door and tell them you'll be doing some work, will try not to disturb them, etc. If they have no idea who you are, you just say that you're only the contractor with a job sheet - they aren't going to be phoning city hall for an explanation and by the time they *did*, you'd be long gone.

      I've walked into *schools* that haven't challenged me because I *look* like an IT guy and was carrying a laptop and a multimeter (I was allowed there, but nobody present KNEW that) and was staring at the cable runs along the ceiling.

      Don't try to fit in, don't try to be friendly, don't try to be too helpful (are genuine contractors usually helpful?), just act like your boss has pushed you into doing that job "a day early" and you don't want to be there but "that's what the paperwork says to do".

      Someone sticking a ladder up in a public street is going to get zero attention, even from police, because it happens 50 times a day on advertising hoardings, building work, even just an IT guy checking his external cables, etc. Someone pasting a "professional looking" poster on a large empty space will attract zero comment. You could probably even get a free cup of tea if you spoke to whoever owns the shop underneath it or next door, etc. People would even let you run a mains lead out their back door for a drill or something for a day if you ask them, into which you could plug *anything*.

      Don't create a fuss, don't try to hide, look like you're meant to be there. It's a piece of piss. How do you think burglars etc. get their work done, scout out a place beforehand, etc.? It's not unusual for someone to challenge a burglar only to be given a convincing explanation ("Er, yeah, John said I could pick up my stuff from last night" - guess what name is on the envelopes in the mailbox?) and let them carry on. It's just a matter of *not caring* about getting caught (i.e. the consequences are negligible -as in this case - or the chances of you being able to escape if caught are high).

  25. Its just viral marketting by Apple. by MrQuacker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since they are Apple's viral marketing team they can't use the Windows logo so they use a knock off. Notice in the article they don't mention it is the Windows logo.

    This:
            * Ensure that plenty of locals visit the store when it opens. "Hey, isn't this the store that had that wacky prank happen to them a few weeks back? We should go see if there have been any other shenanigans there within the last couple of days."

            * Subliminal reminder that Apple can now run Windows if you use Boot Camp.

            * It generally makes Windows users look desperate to Apple users, "Wow, they had to deface a store to feel better about their choice in OS". At the same time, it makes Windows users look funny and creative to other Windows users, "Haha! Stupid Apple store. This'll teach 'em! They're going to be so mad when they realize what we did!".

    I'll say this, I didn't know they were opening a new store in Germany but I sure as hell know now.

    1. Re:Its just viral marketting by Apple. by scrib · · Score: 1

      Bingo. I was about to post a comment like "Apple: Yes, We Do Windows, Too." You nailed it, except I don't think Windows users will much care.

      It COULD simply be pranksters, it may be an Apple stunt, but either way Apple really should run with it.

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    2. Re:Its just viral marketting by Apple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Wow, they had to deface a store to feel better about their choice in OS"

      Mac fans are a little over the top, but honestly, Linux fanboys are the only ones I've known who consistantly think like that. Their choice of OS defines them, and therefore defines everyone else. It's sad and creepy at the same time.

      it makes Windows users look funny and creative to other Windows users, "Haha! Stupid Apple store. This'll teach 'em! They're going to be so mad when they realize what we did!".

      Not really. There's no Windows cult or "community". Normal people just think it's a funny prank (and imho, a giant Windows logo on an Apple store IS funny), hell, I'm certain even Apple fanboys can see the humour in this. Really, only Linux/FOSS fanboys think like that consistently. Even the Mac-as-a-fashion-accessory people don't define themselves or others by their choice of OS, or relate to people based on it, that's mostly a Linux/FOSS thing.

      Did I mention how sad/creepy it is?

      Yeah, yeah, minus one troll/flamebait, whatever.

    3. Re:Its just viral marketting by Apple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's microsoft marketing, trying to seem "rebellious" and "cool" instead of an operating system cubicle dwelling suits...

    4. Re:Its just viral marketting by Apple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll say this, I didn't know they were opening a new store in Germany but I sure as hell know now.

      I had no idea either and did not even notice that it was in Germany before I read your comment. I think it's funny and not over the line even if Microsoft or Apple did pay someone to do this.

    5. Re:Its just viral marketting by Apple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, but look, form the perspective of the outsider, the linux users, and others, Apple and MS, fight for dominance, they're just corporations, one day, they'll fall and be replaced with something else, the market will keep on changing, the only ones that will always be there, will be us, the linux users, keeping score, and laughing at both sides.

    6. Re:Its just viral marketting by Apple. by Xyde · · Score: 1

      Isn't this comment stolen off reddit?

  26. people do realize that by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

    Mac's can run Windows right? The opposite would more insulting I think in that OS X doesn't (at least not legally) run on non-Mac hardware. Perhaps find a vendor that has abandoned linux as a factory install option and rub it in that there is yet another OS that they are denying you :-)

  27. Deliberately Wrong? by OKK77 · · Score: 1

    I wondered: did they put the colours wrongly for plausible deniability? "Hey, this isn't the Windoze logo. It is a panel of basic colours!"

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  28. Windows? Really? by L1B3R4710N · · Score: 0

    Pfft. Do it with a giant picture of Tux and THEN you can be cool!

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  29. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would anyone do thIs? I guess just don't understand why windows fanboys exist. Why be a fan of some company's product?

    I can see some people being fanboys of apple because of what they represented in the past, or being a fan of their quirkiness, or finding S. Jobs charismatic. I can see being an OSS fanboy because of personal involvement or maybe you see it as rebellious. With Windows, where is the lustful attraction it takes to be a fanboy?

    I was a big fan of win2k on the desktop. Really happy with MS. This was the first time I felt I had a stable system, DOS was gone, I could change network settings without rebooting, everything got a billion times better compared to Win9x. I had a great opinion of it all at the time. I didn't feel such an attachment that I wanted to defend or advocate on behalf of MS, though.

  30. Windows stickers. by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1, Funny

    I just place all "Designed for Windows" stickers that I find onto dumpsters and trash bins of various capacity. Does it mean that my sense of humor is far superior to those pranksters (not to mention that I make a valid statement)?

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    1. Re:Windows stickers. by pnot · · Score: 1

      I was given an iPod a few years ago. It came with an Apple logo sticker. I didn't really know what to do with it, so I stuck it on the (somewhat nasty) toilet of the house I was living in, along with a printed label reading "iPoo".

  31. apple fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So fun to mess with.

  32. This is what would have happened. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They would have found out that there weren't any screwDRIVERS that would work with the screws provided and this entire project would have never booted.

  33. banksy wannabees... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not even close, but then again, they might be german after all .8}

  34. Windows billons on logo, kid off street, no clue.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously not a windows fan boy among them, otherwise someone might have clued that the logo was wrong.
    Also no engineers as there was no marking, this panel "top right"

  35. Besides by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

    If you wanted to do the obscure, only geeks will understand, kind of joke the BSD devil would have been the things to do. Apple grabbed a lot of BSD code as the foundation of OS-X as such there would be a geek significance to that logo on their store.

    However, as you say, nobody would get it. The power in this joke is MS is seen as Apple's principal rival and everyone knows their logo. It was a joke anyone could get.

    1. Re:Besides by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trying to pose with knowledge and failing at "BSD devil". Ouch.

      It's not a devil, it's a daemon. Moron.

    2. Re:Besides by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FUCK.YOU.ASS.HOLE.

  36. Obvious by lennier1 · · Score: 1

    Analog Bootcamp

  37. Adrenaline? by FiloEleven · · Score: 1

    with the adrenaline flowing, some of the colors got rearranged and were hung upside down.

    Nah, they just didn't want to get a nastygram from both Apple AND Microsoft.

  38. They pay turfers too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They have a crew of turfers too.

    I find those guys very creepy.

    1. Re:They pay turfers too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have a crew of turfers too.

      I find those guys very creepy.

      Now you know how the real world feels about fanbois!

  39. Yawn by bigt_littleodd · · Score: 1

    Remember when /. used to be first with news like this? This story was in yesterday's news cycle. Doesn't make it less funny, though.

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  40. Is this really front page material? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MS annoys Mac hardly seems to qualify as front-page material. MS can't even be said to have spaghetti code... it's more like swiss cheese. Apple might be a closed ecosystem, but at least it doesn't send your credit card information home every five minutes, (in an unblockable fashion). Unless the prank backfired in a BSOD, this shouldn't really be on the front page.

  41. Why stop at trash cans? by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 1

    I have one on my toilet

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    1. Re:Why stop at trash cans? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      My point is that it would be a proper use of Windows to throw it into a dumpster.

      While I agree that Windows is shit, it's a kind of shit that would clog a toilet if discarded in it, so it would be inappropriate to label a toilet as a proper way of discarding Windows.

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    2. Re:Why stop at trash cans? by Macthorpe · · Score: 1

      I have Xubuntu on my laptop. 'Additional Drivers' recommended I install nouveau, knowing it has no proper 3D support but without telling me anything other than it's experimental - so when it came to try running something that did require 3D, it didn't work. I removed Nouveau and 'Additional Drivers' came back up with the proprietary drivers to install, so I did that. nvidia-settings then told me it needed to rewrite my Xorg config in order to boot correctly.

      It stopped booting correctly.

      I booted into recovery mode, and I had to rebuild a generic Xorg config to actually get into the desktop. It turns out that the 'Additional Drivers' option installed nVidia drivers that aren't compatible with my graphics card, despite recommending them to me. I tried to install the correct nVidia drivers, only to be confronted by the message that I have broken packages, which I didn't before this whole thing started. When I try to fix them, I get a message "Can't fix broken packages - some of your packages are broken."

      To summarise:

      - Xubuntu recommended I install graphics card drivers that don't perform all the features of my card
      - Xubuntu then recommended I install graphics card drivers that don't work with my graphics card
      - In the process, Xubuntu corrupted some of my packages.
      - It can't now repair those packages because they're broken.

      Let's compare this to Windows. I had an issue with my ATI drivers. I downloaded newer ATI drivers and installed them. The problem went away.

      So just consider, when you sit there and call Windows shit, it's still far more usable and far more polished than Linux is.

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    3. Re:Why stop at trash cans? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's true until you come across a situation where:

      {Function} doesn't work with {vendor's} driver. {Vendor} doesn't put out a new driver to provide {function}. Fight with the {device} for {hours} using alpha or beta drivers until you find one that works and provides you both system stability and {function}.

      Function = multicast
      Vendor = 3com
      Device = 3c940
      Hours = 8

      If the vendor doesn't provide an updated driver in Windows, the user is essentially screwed.

    4. Re:Why stop at trash cans? by Macthorpe · · Score: 1

      Well, your 8 hours has easily been matched by the 4 hours I spent trying to get wireless working and the next 2-3 hours that I spent on the above issue. The difference between you and me is that you got a working system out of it at the end - I still have work to do to get my laptop back up and running again.

      Don't get me wrong, I don't actually dislike Linux - otherwise I wouldn't have bothered installing it. It has it's place in the ecosystem (for example, on a laptop I don't want to buy a Windows license for). But, to pretend that it is fantastic while Windows is shit is frankly delusional.

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    5. Re:Why stop at trash cans? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      I have Xubuntu on my laptop.

      No, you don't.

      Now, please, provide a link to Ubuntu forums from where you have copy-pasted that "problem" before someone else finds it.

      Windows astroturfers can't even stay out of the threads with simple insults toward their masters.

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    6. Re:Why stop at trash cans? by Macthorpe · · Score: 1

      I wish I was an astroturfer. It would sure as hell pay more than my job, and if the stuff I posted above is all they'd ask of me, then I'm fine with getting a salary for just writing the truth.

      However, you might want to post something that seems less like you sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "LALALA" at the world.

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    7. Re:Why stop at trash cans? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      Too late. It's this thread:

      http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1589130

      None of it is necessary, of course, unless the user did "experimenting" on his own.

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    8. Re:Why stop at trash cans? by Macthorpe · · Score: 1

      Now try doing it with a GeForce Go 420M. You'll find that Additional Drivers for some reason installs nvidia-current, when that card isn't covered by that driver. However, loading nvidia-96 (the correct driver) now fails for me, stating that it's a broken package. When I try to fix it, it tells me I can't fix that broken package because it's broken.

      Incidentally, you could always go to http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/nvidia-96-series-drivers-for-ubuntu-11-04-a-879438/ and accuse me of copying that, or the actual bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/741930 but I only just found it after another half an hour or so of research. Apparently Ubuntu decided to move to a version of Xorg that doesn't work with my graphics card driver. So now, I get to regress back to an earlier version of Xubuntu/Ubuntu, switch distribution to one that works or just cut my losses and go back to Windows.

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    9. Re:Why stop at trash cans? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      That's all you have found with your mad Googling skills -- a bug report that states that old Nvidia drivers no longer work, and Nvidia is trying to fix it?

      or just cut my losses and go back to Windows.

      Please do! And tell us how current version of Windows will work with those ancient drivers on that "your" laptop.

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    10. Re:Why stop at trash cans? by Macthorpe · · Score: 1

      Well, Windows wins out on a few counts:

      1) Windows will tell when your graphics card isn't up to scratch instead of just refusing to boot and saying nothing.
      2) If your card does work on Windows and then you install drivers that don't work, Windows will still boot to a desktop and tell you it had to recover, instead of just refusing to boot and saying nothing.
      3) Windows doesn't recommend you install drivers that don't work.
      4) Windows doesn't recommend you install drivers that aren't complete.
      5) Microsoft is up front about what will work and what won't, instead of implementing something with no testing and no backwards compatibility without notifying users. From the links I provided, you can read that this is actually the second update in a row that Canonical have broken nvidia-96 support.

      I hope that was informative, because I am now done answering your stupid questions and I'm done with this topic. I have better things to do than educate you.

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    11. Re:Why stop at trash cans? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      Actually Windows doesn't do any of that. You download driver from Nvidia, then it breaks, just like everywhere else.

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  42. Rubber Bumper by wesleyjconnor · · Score: 1

    Need a rubber bumper to cover it up

  43. Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is like yelling profanity about the mother of the guy who just threw you off the roof. A despairing, thick-witted, hopeless gesture. The ironic thing is Microsoft wouldn't know how to open a store without copying Apple to save their lives. This prank is embarrassing for Microsoft, but less embarrassing than opening a Microsoft store which remains devoid of customers, so the prank is relatively successful.

    1. Re:Irony by cheros · · Score: 1

      Oh relax. It was just a fun idea, a wind up.

      I am me and I approve of this message. And of the prank..

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  44. Vandals or pranksters by phorm · · Score: 1

    Prank or vandalism?
    I'd have to vote for vandals if they used spraypaint, etc.

    As a prank, it could have been done with a removable substance (chalk, water-soluble paint, whatever), but if it's a permanent (well, as permanent as regular spraypaint is) substance then it's a bit beyond prank level.

  45. that wasn't a windows logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looked like an incorrectly applied windows logo, but it was just a logo which resembled the windows logo. That's the fun part of it. Even better if they did it without purpose. Great!

    cb

  46. Why publicize a Microsoft astroturf campaign? by Leemeng · · Score: 1

    Who TF puts up Windows logos? People paid by Microsoft, that's who.

  47. Sign of distress by mangu · · Score: 2

    In a ship an upside down flag is a sign of distress, normally used when there's a contagious disease aboard.

  48. Worst looking construction crew ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I gave one look at those guys and said "What a sad looking crew, where is your PPE?"

    No fall arrest, no hording, no traffic/pedestrial controls. No hard hats, and are those vests even tear-away?

    I have to say the Ministry of Labour would be all over those guys in a minute.

  49. Deeper symbol by DrYak · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    A Microsoft logo on an Apple building...

    It's also a little bit like the version of Microsoft Windows 7 that most of the buyers will either boot-camp or virtualize into their fresh Mac hardware, in order to be still able to run the most widespread applications.

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  50. What's the point? by wcrowe · · Score: 1

    I don't get it. So they replaced one greedy corporate logo with another greedy corporate logo. Replacing the corporate logo with something that makes a social or political statement would be noteworthy. If you're going to get in trouble for something it should be worth it.

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    1. Re:What's the point? by Iberian · · Score: 1

      You don't get it? This may help: Definition of JOKE 1 a: something said or done to provoke laughter

    2. Re:What's the point? by wcrowe · · Score: 1

      Yes, and if it had actually "provoked laughter" I would have understood. Instead, it induced befuddlement. Of course, I sometimes find German humor perplexing, even after having lived there. This "prank" is reminiscent of a Mentos commercial.

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  51. Re:That seems like ... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Naa, its an upgrade. Mac is only useful for graphics, video and audio. If you are using it for anything else, it is because you don't understand that it isn't useful.

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  52. And in America....as we are on the slang topic... by bodland · · Score: 1

    Cunt is not an appropriate word to use...but the AC using "faggot" to disapprove of someones post....would be considered a cunt most certainly in the UK. Thoughts?

  53. Re:That seems like ... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    Sometimes I forget that there are genuine Microsoft Windows Fanboys here on slashdot. Since I dared to suggest that their OS of choice is crap, they quickly responded by down moderating my post that suggested that.

    Although of course, for some people, stability isn't that important. I don't understand how those people function in reality, but they clearly exist.

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  54. Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think a Android logo would have been better!

  55. Re:That seems like ... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    I am speaking from experience, no fanboy here. I deal with around 20 Macs, 50 Windows, and 1000 Linux machines. I have to fix issues daily with most of these, and Windows is just easier. I am actually typing this on a Mac Pro running Snow Leopard with all the latest patches.

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  56. let me add my cry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for a penguin

  57. Re:That seems like ... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    I was not accusing you specifically of being a windows fanboy, rather I am pointing out that windows fanboys downmoderated my original comment in this discussion.

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  58. Upside down by SpacerOne · · Score: 1

    Where is the picture?

  59. Re:That seems like ... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    I would have modded it funny, it was a good joke.

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