(1) Hitler and Stalin were not religious per se, but they both led through strong cults of personality, and Hitler's in particular had intense religious overtones. (2) Your comment about the Crusades is accurate but could equally be applied to modern religious terrorists. Read Napoleoni or anyone else who studies the economics of terrorism -- believe it or not, there's a lot of money in terrorism, and for many of the people involved at the lower level (including even suicide bombers), it's a way of putting food on the family table.
And even the lamb of the new testament came to pit brother against brother, father against son, etc. Matthew 10 has an interesting passage that has been interpreted precisely as a call to holy war by the Crusaders.
Don't forget that the Japanese terrorists who released sarin gas in the subway in 1995 were Buddhists of a sort. And the mass murderer Pol Pot was a Buddhist. And despite the rise of Islamic terrorism in the 21st century, Christians have still killed far more in Christ's name in the Crusades than Muslim terrorists have killed under the flag of the prophet.
P.S.: By the way, the "only take bathroom breaks when allowed" is not true; it's an urban myth. If you don't like Landmark, that's fine. But don't be spreading misinformation. You're depriving people of the opportunity to make a choice for themselves. No it's not. Anyone leaving the room for any reason is frowned upon by self-appointed goons who monitor the doors. If you're late you get berated; if you need to slip out early they act like something's wrong with you. The stress is always on how much you need to be there for every precious word and how you are being self-destructive in the extreme by missing out on any of it. I have family members who have dragged me to a few of these things (and I've witnessed recruitment tactics that I thought were highly unethical). What they teach isn't total nonsense -- it works for some people who have a strong need to be led or told what to do, but it's basically pop psychology packaging of some self-evident truths about human motivation and the like. Certainly not worth the big bucks they charge for it. But what I object to the most is the intimidation involved in recruiting and maintaining people in the organization. I sat through an hour lecture about this stuff and at the end of it a couple of people came up to see how I liked it. I said I found it interesting, and one of them was like, great, we'll get you started right away. I told him I wasn't planning to sign up for any further seminars and his response was, well what's wrong with you? what happened? What's your problem with it? Nothing happened, no problem; I just wasn't about to part with a few hundred dollars for more lectures or group therapy sessions. Little turns me off more than being harangued or browbeaten into joining something or signing up for something, but for some people, thats exactly what they need to get themselves going.
These are the same kids who harassed a girl in chatsworth who demands money from men (google "goddessmine" or read this). They did a video gloating about how they took down her server and reported her sketchy (but apparently profitable) dominatrix business to the IRS, and called and hassled the cops who she called to protect her. I don't know what to think about this -- I'm glad someone is taking on Co$, but I'm a little worried these kids are going to get their asses kicked. It's one thing to take down a server that belongs to a nineteen year old girl with self-esteem issues; it's quite another to take on a phony religious organization with a staff of lawyers the size of some third world countries' entire military forces and a history of predatory legal action against its enemies that goes back about twice the amount of time these kids have been alive. But, hey, more power to them!
Come on, this isn't a class struggle. It's Big Business trying to protect their intellectual property. DRM sucks, this is yet another way in which it degrades computer systems. But Apple's just being a company, and their hack to DTrace is actually good coding. Dislike their choice, sure. But there's no epic struggle for humanity here. First, they crippled DTrace, but I did not use DTrace, so I did not speak up.
Then, they came for gettytab, but I did not speak out, because I was happy with Apple's default terminal configuration.
Then, they came for snort, but I was not worried about intrusion detection so I did not speak up.
Next, they came for mkdep, but I did not speak out, because the maid does all my compiling.
Sadly, when it came time for them to use killall, there was nobody left to speak up for me!
First of all, Armitage was basically a stooge of Bush at the time, or, at least, he was arguing for the Bush policy in Iraq; he only changed his tune well after the outing went down. Claiming that Armitage had an anti-bush agenda at the time is completely false. Second, he was not the only one tossing around her name; as we know now, Libby and Rove were up to their necks in this (and Armitage at least cooperated with investigators when the time came), and it's clear from Cheney's own notes where the decisions came from. Did you actually follow the investigation and the ensuing legal proceedings, or did you just read coverage in the National Review?
If we extend the **AA's analogy and reasoning, we might as well go around the world attacking countries that compete with us commercially. Shhhhh!! They can hear you.
LOL I just re-read the article and you're right, the attacks are said to have all happened outside the US; I thought I had read that they were coming from outside the US, not that the power went out outside the US. Oh well, I guess Los Angeles really is outside the US in so many ways....
LA has been getting them over the past few weeks pretty regularly. Entire sections of Hollywood down for several hours at a time (maybe a dozen blocks at a time), and then a couple days later it will be a section starting a few blocks away. Seems to have stopped a couple weeks ago (or was it last week?) But of course I can't tell, I haven't been driving up and down LA to check if it's still happening. But it seemed really weird and random, and the cops were not directing traffic right away (which suggests they were caught off-guard); after a while there were electrician types in groups at certain corners digging through wiring or whatever and looking confused. I noticed it 2 or three times at night, and then it hit my neighborhood in the afternoon on a weekend.
This information was released at a major security conference. If they wanted to just scare everyone they would have released this info more directly to the public rather than at a meeting of specialists who could see through a line of BS. And if they were really going for the fear factor they'd leak this on a monday or tuesday morning, not at 6pm on the friday before a long weekend. It sounds to me like they want to diminish any possible panic, not amp it up. Notice they're not blaming terrorists or enemies either; the strong implication is organized crime with some kind of inside connections. I tend to be pretty skeptical of CIA but based on the little info that is here I'm guessing they're not making this up, and they probably are hoping that letting people know who are responsible for computer security at more localized levels will make it more likely for them to trace the perps.
I'm not sure which is worse -- the paranoia about the CIA or your seemingly unsarcastic gratitude that the UK government would never pull an intelligence caper.
The article says that extortion attempts followed the cyber-attacks, which suggests this is criminal, not political. Not that they can't be both of course, but someone trying to disrupt elections probably wouldn't call in a monetary demand until after they really succeeded in their goal.
FTFA:
Donahue said that the CIA had thoroughly weighed the pros and cons of making this information public, according to Paller. And then decided that it should be made public but only after 5 pm on a Friday so that by the time most people notice, it's old news.
So basically what they're doing is send a FAX of the particles at one end to the other? And since the person on one end "dies" in order to send their particles to the other end, this is basically a Snuff FAX?
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Only 8 years? What about the other 450 or so?
(1) Hitler and Stalin were not religious per se, but they both led through strong cults of personality, and Hitler's in particular had intense religious overtones. (2) Your comment about the Crusades is accurate but could equally be applied to modern religious terrorists. Read Napoleoni or anyone else who studies the economics of terrorism -- believe it or not, there's a lot of money in terrorism, and for many of the people involved at the lower level (including even suicide bombers), it's a way of putting food on the family table.
And even the lamb of the new testament came to pit brother against brother, father against son, etc. Matthew 10 has an interesting passage that has been interpreted precisely as a call to holy war by the Crusaders.
Don't forget that the Japanese terrorists who released sarin gas in the subway in 1995 were Buddhists of a sort. And the mass murderer Pol Pot was a Buddhist. And despite the rise of Islamic terrorism in the 21st century, Christians have still killed far more in Christ's name in the Crusades than Muslim terrorists have killed under the flag of the prophet.
Oh, great, so the toughbook is tested on animals. Bad, bad Panasonic!!!!
They have a photo of a politician using the arm available online here.
The U2 is a plane, not a sea vessel!
I infiltrated a phish show once; other than a lot of hippies smoking dope and some weird meandering drone-rock, I'm not sure what the big deal was.
These are the same kids who harassed a girl in chatsworth who demands money from men (google "goddessmine" or read this). They did a video gloating about how they took down her server and reported her sketchy (but apparently profitable) dominatrix business to the IRS, and called and hassled the cops who she called to protect her. I don't know what to think about this -- I'm glad someone is taking on Co$, but I'm a little worried these kids are going to get their asses kicked. It's one thing to take down a server that belongs to a nineteen year old girl with self-esteem issues; it's quite another to take on a phony religious organization with a staff of lawyers the size of some third world countries' entire military forces and a history of predatory legal action against its enemies that goes back about twice the amount of time these kids have been alive. But, hey, more power to them!
Then, they came for gettytab, but I did not speak out, because I was happy with Apple's default terminal configuration.
Then, they came for snort, but I was not worried about intrusion detection so I did not speak up.
Next, they came for mkdep, but I did not speak out, because the maid does all my compiling.
Sadly, when it came time for them to use killall, there was nobody left to speak up for me!
You clearly do not live in Los Angeles.
First of all, Armitage was basically a stooge of Bush at the time, or, at least, he was arguing for the Bush policy in Iraq; he only changed his tune well after the outing went down. Claiming that Armitage had an anti-bush agenda at the time is completely false. Second, he was not the only one tossing around her name; as we know now, Libby and Rove were up to their necks in this (and Armitage at least cooperated with investigators when the time came), and it's clear from Cheney's own notes where the decisions came from. Did you actually follow the investigation and the ensuing legal proceedings, or did you just read coverage in the National Review?
LOL I just re-read the article and you're right, the attacks are said to have all happened outside the US; I thought I had read that they were coming from outside the US, not that the power went out outside the US. Oh well, I guess Los Angeles really is outside the US in so many ways....
LA has been getting them over the past few weeks pretty regularly. Entire sections of Hollywood down for several hours at a time (maybe a dozen blocks at a time), and then a couple days later it will be a section starting a few blocks away. Seems to have stopped a couple weeks ago (or was it last week?) But of course I can't tell, I haven't been driving up and down LA to check if it's still happening. But it seemed really weird and random, and the cops were not directing traffic right away (which suggests they were caught off-guard); after a while there were electrician types in groups at certain corners digging through wiring or whatever and looking confused. I noticed it 2 or three times at night, and then it hit my neighborhood in the afternoon on a weekend.
This information was released at a major security conference. If they wanted to just scare everyone they would have released this info more directly to the public rather than at a meeting of specialists who could see through a line of BS. And if they were really going for the fear factor they'd leak this on a monday or tuesday morning, not at 6pm on the friday before a long weekend. It sounds to me like they want to diminish any possible panic, not amp it up. Notice they're not blaming terrorists or enemies either; the strong implication is organized crime with some kind of inside connections. I tend to be pretty skeptical of CIA but based on the little info that is here I'm guessing they're not making this up, and they probably are hoping that letting people know who are responsible for computer security at more localized levels will make it more likely for them to trace the perps.
I'm not sure which is worse -- the paranoia about the CIA or your seemingly unsarcastic gratitude that the UK government would never pull an intelligence caper.
The article says that extortion attempts followed the cyber-attacks, which suggests this is criminal, not political. Not that they can't be both of course, but someone trying to disrupt elections probably wouldn't call in a monetary demand until after they really succeeded in their goal.
So basically what they're doing is send a FAX of the particles at one end to the other? And since the person on one end "dies" in order to send their particles to the other end, this is basically a Snuff FAX?
Did you stop reading my post after the first few words?