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Best Laptop for Going Around the World?

mitbeaver writes "I'm planning a round-the-world trip. 6+ months in developing countries, including Everest base camps 1 & 2, the deserts of Namibia and lots of places in between. I want to bring something to write (blogs or the Great American Novel) and burn DVD photo backups to mail home. I don't really need much in the way of power, but I do need it to survive the altitude, dust, moisture of tropical locations, and being hauled around non-stop for the better part of a year. I will be carrying my life in my backpack, so every pound counts. It looks like some 'semi-rugged' ultraportables exist, but the truly 'rugged' are all pretty heavy. These are pricey, and the risk of theft is non trivial. A smaller laptop is easier to keep on my person more often, which is safer (in most countries) than leaving it in the hostel/hotel. Still, the rugged guys are 2x the price — almost worth buying a cheap one and planning an on the road replacement purchase. I know we've talked about gadgets to carry around the world before, but any advice would be greatly appreciated." We also discussed laptop travel cases a little more than a year ago.

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  1. Panasonic toughbook elite by wolfman_jake · · Score: 0

    Have you looked at Panasonic's line of "business" class tough books?

    1. Re:Panasonic toughbook elite by calebt3 · · Score: 1

      Probably too heavy and bulky to carry around in his bag for a year.

    2. Re:Panasonic toughbook elite by rekrutacja · · Score: 1

      CF-18 or CF-19 laptop is 2,1kg. It's not that heavy and bulky. Used CF-18 sells for 1000-1500$ on eBay depending on spec, so it's also not that expensive.
      I'm a happy user of 7 years old CF-M34 toughbook, and i must say this is a wonderful solution (except worn out battery and low processing power, but this is understandable). My laptop took a lot of abuse and is running almost 24/24 for the last 3 years without problems. Those things have amazing build quality.
      Probably also XO could be an answer, because it's ruggedized (not "military spec ruggedized", but probably good enough) and cheap. You won't cry when you loose it.

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  2. Instead of sending DVDs home by ForestGrump · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Instead of sending DVDs home, why not just send memory cards? They are smaller and you don't need a CD/DVD write drive. Just a memory card reader to write your data to.

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    1. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

      Except that the price ratio of cards to DVDRs is ridiculous.

      Having said that, I wouldn't want to trust a variety of postal systems for my backups.

      Why not get 2 Asus EEEs and a USB drive? Redundancy and storage all the way round, for low weight.

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    2. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by trainman · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Buy a bunch of 512MB or 1GB memory sticks, you can usually get them for less than $15 these days.

      And then go with an XO laptop, they're small, durable, and low power.

    3. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Dan+East · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's a good idea. The optical drive is the real portability killer. It's large, power-hungry, and the most fragile piece of hardware in the kit. If you could use something else besides DVDs, you could go with a Micro PC (like the Sony Vaio UX380N), combined with a bluetooth keyboard if you want to do a lot of typing. If you needed DVD you could still use a machine like the Sony with an external DVD drive.

      Those devices probably aren't particularly rugged, but they are so small you could put them in a practically indestructible case and still be smaller and lighter than a laptop.

      Dan East

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    4. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by MoonBuggy · · Score: 1

      The price per gigabyte doesn't even compare between DVDs and flash memory, that is true, but (assuming you're shooting JPEG rather than RAW) you'll still be able to get a very significant number of pictures on a 4, 8 or 16GB card. Sending home a $15-50 card every month or two shouldn't break the bank, although make sure you stock up either at home or somewhere like Singapore or Hong Kong because you'll be paying prices from five years ago for 128MB cards in a lot of places.

      In answer to the original post, I took a Toughbook CF-W2 (which I bought fairly cheaply second hand) with me on a trip that sounds like it was fairly similar to what's being described and it performed faultlessly, although there was the odd time I wished it was a little lighter. If and when I end up faced with the same question again I'll be taking an Asus eee just like the parent suggested. USB 2.5" hard drives or flash drives are cheap (so much so that if you need reliability it's probably worth just buying two) and very small and light so storage shouldn't be an issue and the lack of moving parts in the machine itself should work to your advantage for durability.

    5. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by ThePromenader · · Score: 1

      If you're concerned about more than "sending things home", then I suggest getting a VAIO. It pains me to say this as a mac-accolyte, but as far as hardware is concerned, I've seen nothing more portable nor light in the way of fully-operational. Hell, buy one and install linux on it - a bit more configuration before your trip, but you can be sure that it works everywhere.

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    6. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by kninja · · Score: 5, Informative

      Forget the DVD burner.

      I agree the EEEpc is by far the cheapest and most portable solution. You can buy a bigger SSD drive to stick in an EEEPC to survive riding in a jeep in Africa/Mt Everest etc., buy a bunch of 4-8-16 GB SDHC cards for additional storage/redundancy, and do offline backups when you have internet access (which you'll have if you're blogging).

      Personally, I have a pimped out toshiba subnotebook that I upgraded to an SSD. I can get 10 hours of battery life.

    7. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Scruffy+Dan · · Score: 1

      Depending on how often you can get internet access you may want to just upload your photos to flickr or some other online service. That (combined with a 60gig ipod and the camera connector) was what i did while spending 6 months in semi remote areas of SE asia. That being said also making DVD backups is probably a good idea (keep one in your bag and mail one home) if you are extra paranoid. Also I don't belive the ipod camera connector. works with any of the newer ipods (damn you Apple!)

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    8. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by sfbiker · · Score: 1

      With a DVD drive he can make multiple copies of his data, then mail them separately from different origins for redundancy. Much cheaper to do this with 25 cent DVD's than with $30 flash drives. Besides, if he mails home a flash drive and it happens to be irradiated by the USPS, it'll be destroyed (or at least lose data). Can't find any hard information on what mail is irradiated (just Washington DC and NYC?) and whether or not DVD's are affected adversely. Do any other countries irradiate or do strong X-Ray scanning of mail?

      Before you say that he should be able to fit thousands of pictures into one 4GB (8GB, 16GB, etc) card so he doesn't need more than one, maybe he has a DSLR and wants to save pictures in RAW format to preserve quality. He may only be able to fit a few hundred pics per card and may fill up more than one card per day.

      Plus he probably wants to do some editing and annotating in the field so he can better organize the pics back home, if he's going to lug around a laptop anyway, he may as well include a DVD drive for burning pics cheaply and easily.

    9. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The XO doesn't have a memory stick slot. If you meant USB flash drive, don't call it a memory stick.

    10. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by leuk_he · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Except that the price ratio of cards to DVDRs is ridiculous."

      Not if you include the price of postage, the dvd burner (moving part, probably will have to replace it, and the size of a spindle in your backpack. IF you want to send large amounts of HD video back, dvd-R might be the right way, but for the occasional video+ docs small (256 MB) SD cards are just a few euro, (5 euro for a 1 GB now) and are very hard to damage in post. You can have carry many around, they are light and they are rugged. And they are not lost, the receiver can return them for reuse, or use him himself.

      THis allows you to go for a subnotebook, as noted, far easier to carry around.

    11. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep - I was thinking the same thing. I've seen 2-packs of 1GB SD cards for about $18. You can even have them mailed back to you for re-use if you have maildrops planned.

      It's got to be far lighter, less power hungry & more rugged to carry around a USB card reader (or built in reader) and postage stamp sized SD cards then a DVD burner and disks. Particularly in dusty environments. And I think more likely to survive the international postal system as well.

      Regarding capacity - I would want to mail back my stuff in less then 4.7GB chunks anyway. I did a cross-country bicycle tour years ago. I mailed my rolls of film out as soon as I finished one. Another guy I met wanted to "save on postage" so he was keeping all of them to the end of the trip. Then his panniers got stolen about a week from the coast and he lost every picture from his trip - probably 30+ rolls of film.

      I think you'll go far to avoid moving parts altogether - I'd really consider a solid state disk over a traditional hard drive. Less power consumption as well. No CD/DVD reader at all - moving parts, big hole in the case for more crap to get inside.

      I think I'd seriously consider one of the Asus Eee systems and a good case/bag. I don't know how rugged they've proven to be - but for the price & size you could carry two and still be cheaper & lighter then a traditional laptop. Maybe add in a battery brick to compensate for the battery life.

    12. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by tirerim · · Score: 1

      The XO has an SD card slot. It's located under the edge of the screen.

    13. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Joe+Decker · · Score: 1

      The price isn't that bad, it's instructive, I think, to realize that using memory cards as one-time disposable resources is arguably half the cost of storing photographs on slide film used to be. For that price, one could reasonably send a memory card home and keep one with you, which seems a completely sensible backup policy. And, of course, you *can* reuse the cards.

    14. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by BillyGee · · Score: 1

      Memory stick, SD card, whatever you want, our friends like IOGear make this a moot point - eg. http://www.iogear.com/product_images/main/format3/GFR202SD.jpg

    15. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Joe+Decker · · Score: 1
      It's large, power-hungry, and the most fragile piece of hardware in the kit.

      Indeed, it's that last point that gives me the most concern about using DVDs on long trips.

    16. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

      I think it'd be a lot easier to just get a whole bunch of high-capacity memory cards, and then save them up until you get to an Internet cafe with a DVD burner. With the exception of some places around Everest, very few urban areas don't have at least one cafe where you can rent a computer with an optical drive for an hour. Then you can make your backup copies and mail them home -- no need to own an optical drive or carry around a lot of DVDs.

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    17. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

      The price ratio is bad, but you can fit 30 SD cards in the space one DVD takes up. You could get another 200 in the space the drive uses.

    18. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by JenG2417 · · Score: 1

      I agree with buying extra storage/redundancy. You definitely don't want to lose any good pictures after a trip like this!

    19. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by cecil_turtle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For capacity, yes, you're correct that a DVD burner and some disks are the cheapest option and easy to mail. However it completely fails the rugged and portable tests. Optical drives are just not ideal for this, and while flash media will be more expensive, it will be smaller / lighter / more durable. The response above me also brings a good idea if you MUST mail DVDs out.

    20. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      Oh c'mon. An 1G SD card is around $6.
      Heck, when I bought my nintendo DS recently, cough, I have seen 1G microSD cards on sale for $1(!) (when bought in quantities of 50+).

      I don't know how many pictures (and what quality, RAW?) he expects to shoot per week
      but it doesn't sound so unreasonable to me to buy a few cards and send them instead of
      DVDs. They're smaller and more robust which may to translate to cheaper shipping and
      more chance to survive when sending from a "jungle post office".

    21. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's acolyte, not accolyte - you should have just said you were a Mac-olyte...

    22. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Dare+nMc · · Score: 1

      also a $8 Laptop HDD enclosure makes that spare laptop HDD double as a USB drive, and gives a recovery option if your laptop dies (other than the drive).
      Also per GB the SSD drive in USB form is similar to price of the memcards.

    23. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by nmos · · Score: 1

      If he's not going to be burning DVDs then I'm not sure there's much point in bringing a computer at all. Blogging is going to have to be done from places with Internet access so presumably there will already be computers around and other kinds of writing can still be done on paper. Between the weight, risk of theft, and battery issues, I think carrying around a bunch of electronics seems like more trouble than it's worth.

    24. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just use Crossloop (wwww.crossloop.com) to make a connection to the pc at home and transfer the pics when you have net access.
      Also, webex and logmein provide 30 day trials for remote acces that is always on (your home computer must be left on and connected to the net). I use them for various locations to check out on my downloads and they both work fine from xp/2000 to vista connections.

    25. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by ThePromenader · · Score: 1

      Okay, mod me -1 for spelling and +1 for posting so late : )

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    26. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      That's a good idea. The optical drive is the real portability killer

      So don't take it. Anywhere you can find a post office, even in the fourth world, you will find a place you can burn some CDRs or DVDRs. You can buy bootleg DVDs of the latest Hollywood movies (not to mention porn and Adobe Photoshop) in the side streets (or often main streets) of any city with electricity. I would go with CDs or DVDs rather than various kinds of flash memory, for one thing they're less likely to be stolen from the mail than a reusable card. They're so cheap you can make multiple copies and send separately, RAID by snail mail.

    27. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just use Crossloop (wwww.crossloop.com) to make a connection to the pc at home and transfer the pics when you have net access. Also, webex and logmein provide 30 day trials for remote acces that is always on (your home computer must be left on and connected to the net). I use them for various locations to check out on my downloads and they both work fine from xp/2000 to vista connections.
      great advertisement you have there. pity uploading gigs of data is completely unfeasible in many, many places in the world
    28. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by InbredTom · · Score: 1
      When I went traveling around China/Tibet/Nepal I took my Intel MacBook. I didn't have any problems - just the wariness that I wanted to keep the thing on my person at all times. I could write my blog (http://www.pickingideas.com/) as I went and then upload my entries whenever I found a Wi-Fi connection (word of warning - limited wireless signal on Tibetan base camp!).

      Everest bases camp was very cold and with a raw wind. I didn't have any difficulty getting the MacBook out and taking notes, recording podcasts etc, despite the atmospheric conditions.

      I found iWeb to be a very useful asset for writing my blog when internet connectivity wasn't available. I took pictures, uploaded them to my local blog and then uploaded to the web when I found an internet cafe or a modern hotel.

      I dropped the Mac a few times, it was in my backpack which got chucked about a lot in trains, in the back of 4x4s etc and suffered no ill effects.

      There are probably cheaper alternatives, like the EEEpc, but I found the MacBook to be a convenient size and weight, sufficiently rugged with the right tools for my blogging requirements.

      Enjoy your trip!

    29. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      where did you see those 1G microSD cards....?

    30. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by chazd · · Score: 1

      SD Flash cards are the best thing going. They are cheap! Small and tolerate the extremes (compared to moving media).

      I used the cheapest dell laptop with native SD port and a Canon SD 700 for 4 months in Antarctica.. Fantastic. The camera is dented, scratched but still takes great pics. Nothing fancy about the laptop. Bring a cheater cord to recharge the laptop on any 12 volt battery you come across.

    31. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by vuffi_raa · · Score: 1

      I agree on the eeepc- I personally use a wibrain b1h for portability and function, but if you are looking for more rugged you are prolly better off with the eeepc (since the clamshell is better for durability)and some sort of removable media. If you are looking at a timeframe further out you can always hit one of the hong kong sites like dealextreme.com to get cheap sd/memory sticks to have spares around (unless part of your trip lands you in china or hong kong- then you can just get it there for cheap) - and I do wonder- why dvd? why not upload the files somewhere for retrieval- you can always burn them as a backup when you get home later

    32. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      in the german amazon shop but they got a little more expensive. they're now 2 EUR (about $2.99 USD)

      they also have 1G SDCards for 0,39 EUR (about 0.50 USD).

    33. Re:Instead of sending DVDs home by sacherjj · · Score: 1

      I would take a 2.5" USB powered 160 Gig drive (under $100.) and a bunch of memory cards to use with the eeeXubuntu. Backup the cards onto the drive and ship them home via a FAST carrier (FedEx, etc.)

      My current web site allows 1000 Gig of space on the server. Most people don't use it. However, if you spend time at the internet cafe uploading pictures to the site, you can also get another backup.

  3. Air? :) by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

    I was about to suggest a MacBook Air, but then I noticed the bit about burning DVD backups.

    Aside from that, I have no idea.

    1. Re:Air? :) by thefirelane · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was about to suggest a MacBook Air, but then I noticed the bit about burning DVD backups.

      Yeah, that and the Apple Store Everest won't be opening for another year at least (nothing against the air, but I honestly wouldn't suggest brand-spanking-new tech for something that has to be bullet proof)

    2. Re:Air? :) by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's actually a good idea, just mail home a manila envelope with the whole computer inside.

    3. Re:Air? :) by EEPROMS · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I originally thought the Macbook Air was a good traveling laptop until I realised it had no LAN port. If you walk into any hotel or Internet Caffe most will have a LAN connection and very few will have WiFi. I know the Mac fans will say "but but you can carry a LAN dongle", sorry carrying dongles is a "PAIN IN THE ASS" and you always find the dongle you need is back at work sitting in your desks top drawer. The best travelers laptop Ive seen so far is the Toshiba R500, light (2lb),small, has a optical drive and a LAN port.

    4. Re:Air? :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because when I think rugged, I immediately think MacBook Air. I'm pretty sure GP was kidding, but you actually seem to be serious.

    5. Re:Air? :) by yo_tuco · · Score: 1

      "I originally thought the Macbook Air was a good traveling laptop until I realised it had no LAN port..."

      But, if you wanted to, you could get an Airport Express (small and compact for a radio to copper bridge) to connect your MacBook Air to a wired LAN. I'm not saying this is ideal and I'd don't think I'd rely a newly released laptop for his purpose.

    6. Re:Air? :) by EEPROMS · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dongle = Evil, read my post.

    7. Re:Air? :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >I was about to suggest a MacBook Air, but then I noticed the bit about burning DVD backups.

      Lenovo's ThinkPad X300 has a DVD burner, and is lighter and faster than the MacBook Air with just about the same footprint (It's a bit thicker).

      http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/20/1738253&from=rss

      We have an eval unit on its way and I can't wait :)

    8. Re:Air? :) by bursch-X · · Score: 1

      Then again the Lenovo is running Windows. Wasn't he mentioning he wants a reliable machine? ;-P

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    9. Re:Air? :) by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Funny

      Those are for interoffice communications, you insensitive clod. Where would you put the stamp?

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    10. Re:Air? :) by powerlord · · Score: 1

      I'm usually very pro Apple, but I'm not so sure of the Air in this situation.

      How about this (and I realize I'm probably going beyond what the OP was looking for budget wise, but it might be a good solution):

      Consider a Sony VAIO UX Micro PC. It weighs 1.2Lbs (a bit more with the large capacity battery which gives you the 3-7 hours of up-time) and should be able to be kept on you all the time.
      It includes : 2 Built-in Cameras (front: 0.3M pixels and back: 1.3M pixels) Built-in microphone (for web-logs, or email home?), a biometric fingerprint scanner, and has a USB port (for dumping other data as you go?)
      Sony lists Upgrade features as " 48GB Solid State Drive for faster performance, large capacity battery and Bluetooth® GPS receiver". Again, cost is a factor, but the solid state drive would extend battery life, the large capacity drive boost the uptime from 1.5-3.5 hours to 3-7 hours (I imagine use of the built in WiFi and Bluetooth is the killer), and a Bluetooth GPS receiver so you can use this handheld for mapping also.

      It has a built in MemoryStick Duo slot for your "backups" According to NewEgg a Sony 128MB card is ~12$ and there are 256B and 512MB cards for ~18$. (FYI: 1GB are ~25$, 2GB are ~35$, 4GB are ~50$, and 8GB are ~100$)

      Yeah, its not as much or as cheap as a DVD, but the MS Duo should be enough to back up the next great novel easily (or more depending on how much space you decide to purchase), it should cost as much to ship as a letter (dont forget a ziplock baggy or some static bags to slip them into when you ship them off) and I would imagine you'd be able to replenish as you travel (tourism being what it is).

      Another choice might be the Same idea as the Sony Vaio, but in a laptop (versus handtop) form-factor. ~2 lbs, 2xUSB ports a PCMCIA slot, 10.4" screen, 802.11a/b/g 8 hour battery and a built in SD slot for flash-memory (for backup in place of the required DVD drive).
      NewEggs prices on SD memory are: 1GB ~5$-30$, 2GB ~9$-38$, 4GB ~18$-60$ (the wide variance is due to different classes of product, and deep competition in the marketplace I assume). Take the same precautions as above of bringing a whole mess with you, and shipping them home in a baggy and a sturdy envelope (maybe a bit of cardboard) and they'll probably pay for themselves over CDs in terms of survivability and shipping charges. They also have an even higher likelyhood of worldwide availability since so many electronic devices use them.

      Also consider getting one of these: Laptop Solar Panels. It will run more than most people want (heck, the "Economy" model is $600, but if you're going to be sitting in the remote locations you mentioned, then you might want to be able to power your electrical equipment (including whatever laptop you end up bringing. The other downside (besides the price), is that it is an additional 15lbs (10 for the panels, 5 for the power center), so unless you NEED power, you might not want to bother.

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  4. Stupid DVD requirement by calebt3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you had not mentioned a need for DVD burning, I would have suggested the XO. Maybe you could get an external burner?

    1. Re:Stupid DVD requirement by moderatorrater · · Score: 2, Insightful

      External burner + XO laptop is cheaper than two other laptops, even if you have to replace the burner and XO two or three times on the trip. This is the perfect solution, really.

    2. Re:Stupid DVD requirement by Jeeproxx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The DVD burner is indeed the biggest downfall of the whole scheme. Especially when you take into consideration the fragility and power usage of optical drives. Last time i checked (30 seconds ago) you can get usb pen drives for under $5 on ebay. Find your local china town and hit up the shady computer stores were you can wheel and deal. The weight would be minimal, mailing price the same as a standard letter, reusable medium, rugged, and low power consumption. Combine that with an XO and you're rockin'!

    3. Re:Stupid DVD requirement by jc42 · · Score: 1

      External burner + XO laptop is cheaper than two other laptops, even if you have to replace the burner and XO two or three times on the trip.

      So how do you go about replacing a stolen XO in the wilds of Tibet or Amsterdam or wherever? They're not exactly sitting there on the shelves of the neighborhood computer store.

      Actually, I'm curious. My wife and I got a couple recently, and are going on a trip. We plan to take them along, though so far we haven't gotten very fluent in using them. I'm wondering if we could successfully use them to copy our pictures to a few SD cards. I don't seem to see the docs explaining how to do it ...

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    4. Re:Stupid DVD requirement by gotzero · · Score: 1

      Take flash cards/drives instead of DVDs, and mail those home. You can use a smaller computer, they will be arguably more rugged than DVDs, and the cost, while high, is no longer that prohibitive.

    5. Re:Stupid DVD requirement by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1


      I think he should bring a Nokia 810 Internet tablet... I'm not sure that the DVD burning makes any sense.

      I think he'd be much better off buying a whole bunch of 8GB or smaller SD cards. Then all he needs to do is write his pictures to the SD cards, put them in something like a 35mm film canister and mail them home (or to a friend back in the states).

      1. an SD card in a film canister is much more rugged then a flexible DVD
      2. a dvd burner is going to get dirty, has all kinds of delicate parts and uses a TON of power.
      3. There are zillions of camera places in the world... you can go anywhere and buy memory for cameras. You might be able to buy DVD media, but if your external burner breaks down (which it will... moving parts, sand... not a good combo) good luck finding a replacement...

      Here's why he should bring a Nokia 810 (or whatever is the lastest version) Internet tablet)

      1. Rugged as all get up.
      2. Built in keyboard, touchpad, wireless, GPS
      3. USB port that can be used as both a host and client ports.
      4. Mini-SD slot
      5. The thing can be put in your pocket and well hidden. It won't stick out like a laptop...

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  5. Thinkpad by pipatron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thinkpad X-series, maybe one of the T-series if you really need to burn stuff, but I wouldn't hesitate for a moment about taking my X40 anywhere. It's as rugged as you can get for that weight.

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    1. Re:Thinkpad by SuperQ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yup, I love my X series. I've been carrying thinkpads everywhere with me since 1996. I started with a Thinkpad 500. Then a T20, and then decided that size was more important and have had several of the X series since then.

      As for backups/mailing, I agree with the other posts. SD cards are the way to go, not optical.

      One other cool option would be an OLPC if you can get your hands on one.. although the keyboard is sub-optimal for a lot of writing. Same thing with the Eee PC, just not enough quality in the keyboard. The OLPC does have the more waterproof advantage. It also has a daylight readable screen. I wish more laptops had direct-sun readable screens.

      I also suggest a good case. Waterfield Designs makes a bunch of really good custom-fit cases for various laptop sizes. A bit pricey, but damn good quality.
      http://www.sfbags.com/

    2. Re:Thinkpad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, I brought my Thinkpad X60s all over Europe last summer, along with my dSLR, and didn't have many difficulties. It has survived everything I've thrown at it thus far. My one gripe with it is the battery being down to 75% of its original capacity after about eight months of (very heavy) use

    3. Re:Thinkpad by wbean · · Score: 1
      I second this. I actually made the trip with an X40 a few years ago. It worked out fine. If you want to save weight use the light battery and ditch the base with the DVD.

      I tried using an OQO in Russia last year and the power supply died on me. Besides, by the time you add a light, useable keyboard, a USB network adapter and SD card adapter you have too many moveable parts. Never again.

    4. Re:Thinkpad by Hank+Spatter · · Score: 1

      I just completed a six-month trip around the world with a ThinkPad T series. It was my beater laptop and it withstood 40K miles in a backpack. I dropped it, spilled water on the screen (got it out with a hair dryer in Saigon) and that sucker kept on tickin'. I did not get to Everest base camp, but it survived all of Oceania, the jungles of Cambodia and 'Nam, China and India. It was pre-DVD burner, so I uploaded all good photos to flickr as I went. There are internet cafes seemingly on every block in the 3rd world.

      It has since been retired for a newer T-series, but it still works. The power converter even held up well on just about any voltage/wattage combo, AC or DC. Just remember your plug adapters. If you can get a beater cheap on eBay, go for it.

    5. Re:Thinkpad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with an X is that you have to lug around the base if you want the optical drive.

      And speaking as the owner of, variously, an A, three Ts, and an X, I wouldn't touch one of the current Ts.

      I prefer my 12" PowerBook for travel.

    6. Re:Thinkpad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well,

      I would say a thinkpad is out. The lack of good rugged options from Lenovo is a pisser to me.

      I would look for a full Mag Alloy case, with a small form factor, then throw a solid state HDD.

      In my car PC, the system fails to start below -10 F or so ... and the hdd causes random lockups below zero F so keep that in mind for your travels.

      I would suggest something like the Sager NP6260 (google web search showed places that still offer it) which is a Core Solo ULV processor, with DDR2, a 12.1 inch screen, an optical drive, and it comes in at 2.8 lbs. Keep in mind that the full mag alloy casing can withstand between 250-300 lbs before flexing enough to damage the components. The NP6260 comes in at about $1300 USD and a 32GB SLC SSD comes in at about $299, so the whole setup would be sliding in under the $2K mark ... a great price for the rugged nature of the notebook.

      Plus it sounds like you really are looking for an ultraportable with an optical drive, and there aren't too many of those out there ... 2.8 lbs is pretty ultra portable.

      Just my two cents, hope it helps.

    7. Re:Thinkpad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except it overheats easily. What a pain in the butt.

    8. Re:Thinkpad by pipatron · · Score: 1

      Don't really know what you are talking about here. I run my X40 with the fan disabled in 99% of the time. When I do start a long compile, the fan will kick in, but if you force the CPU to stay at 600MHz that wouldn't be a problem either.

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    9. Re:Thinkpad by swillden · · Score: 1

      Except it overheats easily. What a pain in the butt.

      I've had a 765, a 600E, a T21, a T40, a T42p and now a T60p. The T60p is the only one of them that has had heat problems. It's also the first Thinkpad I've owned that was branded Lenovo. I really hope Lenovo's not going to screw the great, and well-deserved, reputation of Thinkpads.

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    10. Re:Thinkpad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a thinkpad X-31 that I went travelling with for a year and a half. It went with me when I did my mountain climbing all the way through to sailing. It may not be supper rugged, but I just got a used one off ebay, and then whenever something broke (2x lcd screen and 1x inverter), I purchased a replacement part on ebay (shipping was always a problem). They are very modular so replacing parts is easy. Both those parts are quite sensitive to humidity and salt as well as being dropped from large heights. I dropped the laptop once from about 3 meters, the screen cracked, so I just ordered a new screen and it kept on ticking.

      My first criteria was the battery life as I knew I wouldn't have access to a plug everywhere. And with the extended batteries those laptops work a charm. They are also quite light, but they don't have a optical drive on them.

    11. Re:Thinkpad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have jsut spent 10 months travelling around the world, through Russia, mongolia and china then down to Oz and 7 months in south america. If I were you I wouldnt bother taking one, loads of internet cafes everywhere, most with DVD burners and all for v.cheap prices.
      Store all your photos on your MP3 player (I have an IPOD) until you are ready to post a DVD then before you delete make sure a friend at home has got it and can view the photos.
      Shouldnt worry about everest either, I borrowed about 3 different laptops in the Antarctic to burn dvds and stuff - let them take the risk!
      Namibia will be fine too, went there 0 years ago and loads of internet cafes even back then.

    12. Re:Thinkpad by GwaihirBW · · Score: 1

      Agreed. My current T42p has survived 3 cups of liquid, several drops, countless accidental power cord yankings, and a car accident that damaged its carrying case pretty thoroughly. Still works wonderfully.

      And before that, my family has owned a long line of Thinkpads, all of which still worked up until the butterfly was accidentally stored in the attic one summer with the battery in several years ago. I used it for mobile note-taking and light word processing up through 2003 or 2004.

      With the new magnesium roll-cages, they should be nearly invincible when the HD is locked (and the motion-sensing auto-lock seems to work quite well).

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    13. Re:Thinkpad by Moonpie+Madness · · Score: 1

      My Z60 also is not quite up to par for Thinkpads. It was not a Lenovo (bought just after the changeover), but I think the T60 and Z60 line just aren't the best Thinkpads.

      I don't really think this has anything to do with Lenovo. The laptops are still being made by the same folks, really.

  6. Things to consider too! by jelizondo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One thing you must consider in Plan B (replacing the laptop) is the difficulty of getting an English version of the OS and keyboard

    While OSes are internationalized and have English versions in the same package as other Latin-alphabet languages (Spanish, French, etc.) I'm not sure it would be true for non-Latin alphabets as would be the case in Asia.

    In another topic, considering that postal systems in many underdeveloped countries is not very efficient you might want a plan B for your DVDs; a nice padded package might get stolen just out of curiosity and it will certainly can be opened by postal authorities in many countries to verify its contents.

    Good luck and have fun!

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    1. Re:Things to consider too! by Scruffy+Dan · · Score: 1

      an easy plan B for your DVDs would be to make two copies. One to send home and one to keep in your bag. Plus uploading your pics to an online service like flickr whenever possible, should make loosing your pics a very remote possibility

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    2. Re:Things to consider too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "verify its contents"?

      Against what? Like you have to publish a manifesto of your mail's contents? Or are they going to verify that your envelope doesn't break any one of their country's laws and regulations? What postal authorities do this plz

      I think they'd be more likely to lose it. Frankly.

    3. Re:Things to consider too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The OS isn't really of concern. Especially if you are talking about a small cheap laptop like the eeepc. I can boot from the internal drive, SD card, and any USB storage. Just take one(or all) of those memory cards and load it up with a backup OS.d it up with a backup OS.

    4. Re:Things to consider too! by Kamokazi · · Score: 1

      The other thing is electronics are generally a good deal more expensive in developing countries (talking about real stuff, not chinese knockoffs), not to mention harder to come by....I wouldn't plan to replace it.

      If you don't want to spend the cash on a true rugged laptop, I would probably suggest a IBM Thinkpad or a Dell Latitude series...being in IT now and having worked in a computer retailer in the past, I have seen a lot of notebooks and generally those are two of the more durable notebook lines. But I would really look at spending the cash, and getting a nice, comfortable backpack you can take anywhere with you.

      One thing I do when traveling (including overseas) and I have to leave my laptop behind, I will get a quality, small, padlock and lock the notebook in my large suitcase.

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    5. Re:Things to consider too! by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

      loosing your pics

      lose = to fail inadvertently to retain
      loose = your mama after I got done with her last night.

      My first grammar nazi post, folks. Can't help it, that one really is elementary.

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    6. Re:Things to consider too! by edcheevy · · Score: 1

      Good thinking!

      Also keep in mind that electronics/media may be significantly more expensive in some countries due to multiple factors (incl. weak dollar). A few years ago we were bumming around the south pacific for 6 months and I remember laughing at $40 DVDs in New Zealand.

      Or maybe you can save money and get a knockoff in China, it all depends on where you're going to be.

      I know you're trying to cut down on weight, but an external hard drive might not be a bad investment. On our trip we did the DVD backup thing with a cheap laptop, but also had an extra hard drive with us. Yes, I was paranoid about losing thousands of photos. =) Of course, we're into photography and had a nice digital SLR with us. Your data needs might not be as high (it adds up FAST at 5-10 MB per photo) but if you are a photo nut, it might be worth worrying about. Oh, if you do have an SLR, buy a good wide angle lens if you don't have one already! I cannot stress this enough! And keep it close. ;)

      Very jealous!

    7. Re:Things to consider too! by Sneeka2 · · Score: 1

      A MacBook might not be perfect for what you're looking for, but in these points they're actually excellent.
      Apple Service is available in most countries one way or another. They're using the exact same hardware all over the world, meaning you can get a replacement rather easily. That's not true for too many manufacturers, models often vary from region to region. Apple warranty is also world-wide. And the OS is international, no separate editions for different languages, switchable on the fly. The power-adapter works world-wide as well.

      My 2¥.

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    8. Re:Things to consider too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My experience with computers in Taiwan (admittedly not representative of all of Asia) is that while the keyboard does have markings and symbols for typing Chinese, the standard letters and numbers are in the same positions and are labeled the same as a US keyboard.

    9. Re:Things to consider too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you touch type, it really doesn't matter where you get your computer; you can just set the keyboard layout to US and type away. The only problem is the enter key, which is shaped differently everywhere but in the US.

      Another thing to consider is price: laptops in the third world are, in my experience, at least twice as costly as in the US, so getting one that doesn't break, even at a significant premium may still be justified.

    10. Re:Things to consider too! by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      That actually sounds like a good argument for using Ubuntu or another linux based OS. One, the replacement OS won't cost him any money, and two, it will certainly contain his preference of language (even if it isn't English). In America, the only way I could type in Hebrew at a friend's place was by installing Ubuntu on a spare PC. The local MS dealer didn't even want to help me find a MUI (multilingual user interface, the MS term for the ability to switch language at next startup). And I could only imagine what it would have cost!

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    11. Re:Things to consider too! by mdvandam · · Score: 1

      You can bring a HTC TyTN II, and many microSD cards, plus an bluetooth keyboard. You will bring integrated GPS, Camera, MS Office, Storage, music, phone, drive... I have a TyTN I, and I used as notebook alternative when you don't need special software. You can charge it on your car, solar, usb, etc. The battery last for 6 howrs of intensive use. I'ts lighter than mac air ! I don't think twice.

    12. Re:Things to consider too! by raind · · Score: 1

      Off topic perhaps, how about pen and paper? decent camera etc.

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    13. Re:Things to consider too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it would be easy to get an English OS in China.

    14. Re:Things to consider too! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      My first grammar nazi post, folks. Can't help it, that one really is elementary.

      well, you could be a typo nazi too. The reason this one is so common is that neither is phonetic, both have to be memorized as irregular spellings.

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    15. Re:Things to consider too! by dhasenan · · Score: 1

      His flickr collection is rarely viewed, making it a remote possibility that his photos were loosed on some unsuspecting individual.

  7. Pick Two by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rugged, light, cheap: pick any two.

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    1. Re:Pick Two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, if I were to do this, I'd choose a smartphone, or actually, I'd choose two. They are small, they are fairly rugged if you choose the correct ones and don't bathe with them, and they are powerful. With, say a Nokia N95, you have a decent compact camera, a powerful OS, it can play music, movies and you can write your novel or blog and all that.
      Finding one which support most of the world's standards on GPRS, EDGE, 3G, Super3G, Wi-Fi and BlueTooth, and one that optionally support memory cards isn't that hard. If you have a Nokia, you should be able to pick up a charger just about anywhere as well. Also, several of todays units support GPS positioning, which I'd venture would come in handy.

      I can see the keyboard part might put you off, but seriously, if you want to go small and have it all, a smartphone might be worth checking out.
      The US and Japan, and possible South Korea might be different, but in Europe you really have a wide selection and they are usually built to function around the world (with some possible exceptions in the areas mentioned), as the phones seldom are made to go with the suppliers network spesifically (Europeans are whores when it comes to switching telecom partners, and they like to bring their handsets with them =)..).

      Have a safe and interresting trip.

    2. Re:Pick Two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      If I pick both of the commas, what exactly does that get me?

    3. Re:Pick Two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I choose both of the commas, what does that get me?

    4. Re:Pick Two by Constantine+XVI · · Score: 1

      The OLPC breaks that logic, as it's all three. (passes military ruggedness specs, 3.5 pounds, ~$400 going by Ebay value)

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    5. Re:Pick Two by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Except this guy is looking for standard laptop functions that the OLPC doesn't have, like a DVD burner.

      If we ignore the guy's demand that he have every standard laptop function, then the obvious solution is one of those GSM cell phone/pda combos. Only weighs a few ounces, supports word processing, and he can use GPRS or EDGE to send his data home. And it's cheap, so it's not a disaster if it's lost, stolen, or obliterated. If he has to have a full-sized keyboard, then yeah, the OLPC XO is a good option. But if he wants all the fancy options, he's going to have to pay.

    6. Re:Pick Two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A small bluetooth keyboard would round that out nicely

    7. Re:Pick Two by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 1

      Rugged, light, cheap:

      Like the eeePC?

      I think it should go:

      Rugged, light, cheap, powerful, pick any four.

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    8. Re:Pick Two by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 1

      pick any four.

      *ahem* Pick any three...

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    9. Re:Pick Two by timeOday · · Score: 1

      I say, think twice about the DVD burner. Instead, take a pocketPC and foldable keyboard. Light, no hard drive (fragile and bad at high altitude) and cheaper than a laptop. They're quite rugged, from my experience of carrying a few different models unprotected in my pocket for the last 10 years. Instead of burning DVDs, buy a few 4 GB SD cards for $20 each. That's 1000 photos per card at 4 MB each (which is a very generous estimate unless you insist on RAW images - in which case it's still only 10 cents per 20 MB image). I find a pocketPC screen OK for writing text, though admittedly inferior for web browsing.

    10. Re:Pick Two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I carried a little MacBook around for two years across various terrain in dozens of countries. By the end, it was battered and bruised, yet I will readily admit the overall performance was outstanding. Cheap and light, rugged enough. For me, the easy & powerful MacBook was worth its weight in gold.

    11. Re:Pick Two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    12. Re:Pick Two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tara Reid

    13. Re:Pick Two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is ridiculous. rugged, light, cheap = 1 US penny. Which is a good hardware random number generator (no pseudorandom functions here!), but only at 1 bit per about 10-15 seconds, and no screen, WIFI, or suitability for general computing....

      Now add more FEATURES (screen, keyboard, general computing processor, DVD burner...) and PERFORMANCE, and you can forget one of 'light' 'rugged' or 'cheap'...

    14. Re:Pick Two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A quote (if you invert them).

    15. Re:Pick Two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two commas.

    16. Re:Pick Two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not necessarily; the XO is rugged, light, and cheap. However, it has no optical drive, and isn't very powerful. But it is excellent on power usage, and it's very low cost. Ubuntu can easily be installed to a 2 Gb SD card, and you'll be equipped with a very nice machine for basic tasks. Word processors, web browsing, international dictionaries; even VNC if you're so inclined, all run extremely well on it, and it's incredibly minimalistic. Plus, it's designed to handle very rough terrain and weather conditions. I'd highly recommend it.

  8. Buy a Cheap One by daliman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I travelled for 20 months with an el cheapo Acer in my backpack. It's still going (although not in great condition), but I figured that if it was stolen then the loss wasn't too huge and if it broke, then likewise.

    Carry one of those laptop locks, as well as a few other padlocks, and lock everything up any time you go anywhere and you'll be fine.

    Oh, and install TOR before you go. Lots of those countries have daft internet filtering, but I didn't come across a country where TOR didn't work for me.

    1. Re:Buy a Cheap One by woodsrunner · · Score: 1

      Agree with the ACER. They have a great warentee worldwide and rock. Also, check out Fujutsu. Those babies are tuff. I got one from them via their ebay store for $400 and it has been great. Got a second for the Mrs. and she loves it too.


      Also, don't skimp on the RAM.

  9. hard drives die at high altitude by lopgok · · Score: 5, Informative

    You will want to use a solid state disk when you are at Everest base camp.
    If you read about computers used there, the hard drives fail very quickly due to low air pressure.
    Hard drives are not rated to work at 18,000 feet.

    1. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by chappel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can confirm that - my iPod ('color' 30g) crashed at about 11000 feet (I think the specs rate it to 10,000). I managed to revive it, but I don't think it's been quite the same since. I'd suggest looking into an 'eee' pc - all solid state, and cheap enough to get a spare. http://eeepc.asus.com/

    2. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by ajfrancis35 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You will want to use a solid state disk when you are at Everest base camp.
      If you read about computers used there, the hard drives fail very quickly due to low air pressure.
      Hard drives are not rated to work at 18,000 feet. Very True. Dan Reed describes his experience with high altitude and hard drives here: http://hpcdanreed.typepad.com/reeds_ruminations/2007/08/yo-head-crashes.html#more "In an earlier blog posting, I mentioned that I was on my way to western China, to give a keynote talk at GCC2007 in Urumchi, which is in northwest China.....Needing a digital fix and wondering about network connectivity in Tibet, I turned on my IBM ThinkPad. Windows Vista booted normally, and my applications began loading. Life was good. Then, I saw the dreaded blue screen of death, followed by a message that struck terror in my heart: Disk read error Ctrl-Alt-Del to retry....... ...........The first night in Tibet, I awoke around 3 AM with a massive headache, one of those "Oh, please, bludgeon me into unconsciousness so the pain goes away" migraines from altitude sickness. I was having a second head crash, the biological kind this time., ......... ....I've been reflecting on the irony that my disk crash and altitude sickness were due to the same physics that dominates much of my professional life: the Navier-Stokes equations. Beguilingly simple to derive, yet fiendishly complex to evaluate, these differential equations are an application of Newton's second law to describe fluid flows in a wide range of physical situations:....
    3. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by imbaczek · · Score: 1

      can't mod you up higher, so I'll just comment - you're 100% totally right, can't stress that enough. you don't want your usual hard drives on such altitudes.

    4. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by Pentagram · · Score: 1

      I'd go for an Asus Eee then. Ultra portable (approx the size of two stacked DVD cases closed if you haven't seen one), solid state disk, cheap, and widespread enough to replace if necessary. No easy way of burning CD/DVDs, but SD cards/USB flash drives are pretty cheap these days. I've got one I find it very handy for just sticking in a bag and keeping it handy.

    5. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by hkb · · Score: 1

      I carried an iPod 20GB to the summit of Rainier (>14000ft) and several other >10000ft peaks, with frequent manual song changes. No problems, the damned thing still runs and still holds a battery charge.

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    6. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Also the grease freezes giving 'sticktion'.

    7. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by ShakaUVM · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, mailing home SD Cards is probably less likely to result in a break or cracked disc, like what happened to my friend when he mailed home a DVD with all his photos from China. Well, half his photos. He needed the space and, damn, they're gone forever.

      I'd say a SD Card in the little plastic boxes they come in should be good enough protection, maybe with a padded liner too.

    8. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by syousef · · Score: 1

      You never EVER keep just one picture of data you can't recreate such as photos.

      My wife and I are shutterbugs who believe in shooting lots and worrying about storage and/or culling later. We literally took a total of 20,000 photos on a 20 day fly drive honeymoon in New Zealand. (When I quote this number people ask if we did anything but take photos. We most certainly did) I backed up the photos every night, either to 2 dvds or to an external hard disk. I even had to wipe software off the computer to make them fit but while re-installing things is a pain, it's doable whereas lost photos aren't recoverable.

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    9. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by impus · · Score: 2

      Not only hard drives. Many electronic devices will have problems in thinner air because their cooling systems are less effective, and we all know how much notebooks rely on active cooling... At least one device I own (my projection TV) has a high altitude setting to adjust for this: it dims the lamp and runs the fans more aggressively. (Although I'm not sure why it can't sense when the normal cooling isn't working and adjust accordingly).

    10. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by GaryOlson · · Score: 1

      You never EVER keep just one picture of data you can't recreate such as photos.
      Absolutely. I plan my trips so the digital pictures are stored on not less than 3 different media at the end of the day: SD card > laptop HDD > CD/DVD > ftp to home system HDD (which has a DDS3 tape backup jukebox). My trips are planned to include a hotel frequently enough to allow overnight uploads to allow recycling the SD cards.

      Home server tapes are off-site rotated with a spare set in the safe deposit box. The best pictures are also stored in the safe deposit box on CD/DVD also. The smallest safety deposit box will hold many TB of digital data in these formats.

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    11. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by syousef · · Score: 1

      That's a much more thorough regiment than mine. I didn't keep a copy off site because I was too cheap. In New Zealand every place I went wanted to charge $x per 10 minutes for net access. I think the best rate I saw was $10 for a full day.

      I figured if I'd had a major accident or was robbed of everything photos mightn't be my first priority....but mostly I was just too cheap.

      Once I got home, I put a copy on 3 hard drives, one of which lives at my mother's house. I've since aquired a 4th.

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    12. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      He didn't have a laptop, just went to a photolab which copied them onto a DVD for him. He actually made a couple copies, but since they were all together, they all got cracked at once.

      Un-lucky.

    13. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by NateTech · · Score: 1

      Same here. iPods dying at high altitude is horse-hockey.

      My iPod has been numerous times above 10,000' MSL and at least once to 14,000+' MSL. I live in Colorado.

      It's been to the top of Pikes Peak (14,100+' MSL), and to numerous radio equipment sites at 10,000' MSL or higher.

      Conifer Mountain, just below 10,000' MSL and Squaw Mountain 11,440' MSL are commonly visited with it. It's also been up to Leadville, CO two or three times. Not to mention the somewhat lower but frequent trips up I-70 through the Eisenhower Tunnel, over Loveland, Vail, Kenosha and Berthoud Passes. Those are just normal highway drives around here... to get to mountain towns/ski areas.

      I'm also a Private Pilot, and the iPod has been in the unpressurized cabin at 11,500' MSL a few times.

      Give me a break... iPods are fine at altitude.

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    14. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I can confirm that hard disks don't like high altitude. When I went to the Everest base camp (something like 5.5-6km above sea level), a guy brought his classic iPod up too. Needless to say, it turned on but had "disk errors". Thankfully it promptly resumed working in Lhasa! :-)

      In my travels in China, personally I didn't use a laptop. There is always an internet cafe around, and provided you know a little of the language, you can just go into a computer shop and ask to burn a DVD. :-P

      I kept my photo DVDs in a metal storage wallet, and brought them home with me, because I didn't trust China post (I saw how the post was treated on the trains, hah!). That's just my 2 cents. :-)

    15. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by mikael_j · · Score: 1

      Most likely it doesn't automatically adjust this because the TV manufacturer realised that if the cooling monitoring software/hardware starts acting up then the fans will be turning on and off and the screen will dim and brighten with no way for the user to just tell it to stop.

      I've had this problem with laptops that have decided "Hey, I need to run the fans at max RPM! and slow down the CPU! What's that? You set the "don't screw with the fan rpm and cpu speed" setting? Well I'm gonna go ahead and piss on that! Bwahaha!" and it's been a total pain in the ass, CPU usage is at ~ 10%, 60% of RAM is free, very little IO activity and temperatures inside the machine are fine yet some BIOS/firmware part of the computer decides that something is wrong and overrides my settings.

      /Mikael

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    16. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here is the link I wanted to find yesterday:
      http://www.ueverest.com/camp_life.aspx?postId=19

      Here is the punchline:
      The air is very thin and machinery such as hard drives have a very high failure rate in this rarefied atmosphere. Delicate equipment would have to be transported over miles of rugged terrain by Yak or porters. We are very much isolated from the usual consumer grid, so all the equipment we need would have to last for the entire trip or be repaired in the field and there would be no chance to purchase or replace broken hardware in this remote location.

      The Hardware
      Laptop computers provide most of the computer power we need on the mountain but they have to stay lower on the mountain, at or below advanced base camp at 21,000 feet. For redundancy we brought three laptops, all different brands, just in case one particular brand proved problematic. The primary mode of failure for laptops in this environment is hard drive failure since hard drives rely upon the viscosity of air to provide lubrication and damping among the moving parts, the same manner that oil provides lubrication and damping for moving machine or engine parts.

      Due to low pressure and cold temperatures, the viscosity of air is a fraction of what it is at sea level and hard drive failure is common. Each laptop had two spare hard drives, each hard drive had the operating system, and all of the mission critical software pre-installed upon it before we left. When hard drives fail we could change out a new one in several minutes since they were pre-built. Data was backed up daily to either CD/DVD or to flash drives, since these media were much less subject to failure at altitude. It didnt take long for the first hard drive to fail - we lost the first hard drive at a mere 12,500 feet en-route to base camp.

    17. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by lopgok · · Score: 1

      Here is the link I was looking for yesterday: http://www.ueverest.com/camp_life.aspx?postId=19 Here is the important part: The air is very thin and machinery such as hard drives have a very high failure rate in this rarefied atmosphere. Delicate equipment would have to be transported over miles of rugged terrain by Yak or porters. We are very much isolated from the usual consumer grid, so all the equipment we need would have to last for the entire trip or be repaired in the field and there would be no chance to purchase or replace broken hardware in this remote location. The Hardware Laptop computers provide most of the computer power we need on the mountain but they have to stay lower on the mountain, at or below advanced base camp at 21,000 feet. For redundancy we brought three laptops, all different brands, just in case one particular brand proved problematic. The primary mode of failure for laptops in this environment is hard drive failure since hard drives rely upon the viscosity of air to provide lubrication and damping among the moving parts, the same manner that oil provides lubrication and damping for moving machine or engine parts. Due to low pressure and cold temperatures, the viscosity of air is a fraction of what it is at sea level and hard drive failure is common. Each laptop had two spare hard drives, each hard drive had the operating system, and all of the mission critical software pre-installed upon it before we left. When hard drives fail we could change out a new one in several minutes since they were pre-built. Data was backed up daily to either CD/DVD or to flash drives, since these media were much less subject to failure at altitude. It didnt take long for the first hard drive to fail - we lost the first hard drive at a mere 12,500 feet en-route to base camp.

    18. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks. These comments were driving me nuts. I'm a computer geek for an Antarctic research teem and the only cold/altitude. You must let equipment warm up before using and be careful of condensation, but the only problem I've seen was a CMOS battery that got so cold it let the setting get erased. We've used dozens of hard drives at South Pole without any extra failures and this is just standard off the shelf crap. The pilots we work with also use an iPod in a unpressurized cabin and have never once mentioned this problem which I keep hearing about on Slashdot.

    19. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mailing data on physical media? I don't know how many gigs of photos your friend had, but is there any city on this planet without a cybercafe?

    20. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 1

      In lieu of the altitude issue you may be limited to a diskless system,
      and you mention you want to save money, and thou you have likely considered it
      already may I again suggest the Asus EEE pc.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eee_pc

      $400 or less, uses solid state tech.

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    21. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by foregather · · Score: 1

      Also, the X40s have a built in SD slot so you don't need to worry about packing/losing USB dongles. I don't know what your OS situation is but I can confirm that the SD card slot works out of the box with Ubuntu.

    22. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Taking a try at the photography side here:

      I would recommend looking at small storage devices for photos.
      (e.g. Hyperdrive Space). Be carefull though when at higher altitudes
      (2500m for H.S.) because of the built in HDD (but I guess you could
      use a SSD here, too). The advantage of it is that you have a backup
      of the photos you mailed home on the SD card and it facilitates your
      managment as you can load the photos from the device to another card
      (can also be different format than SD if you care) and its small enough
      to carry along with your camera/backpack (while you leave the backup cards
      where they are "safe").
      Also, if your laptop got stolen, you still would have your pictures ;-)

      On the other hand, a good, simple plain old film camera (I love my
      Olympus Mju II as it has a sliding cover, is small enough and is somwhat
      weather "resistant") with some rolls of film and a few batteries might
      also do the trick.

      Anyway, have a good and safe trip and

      *Make sure you put your home address/contact info in your address book!!!*

      There's nothing worse than loosing the info on people you will most likely
      never meet again otherwise!

      Envying you, yours truly an
      A.C.

      P.S: 12" PowerBooks G4 *are* very nicely built :-) but they might not necessarily
      stand up to humidity/temperature (but would surely double as a "hand warmer" *g*)

    23. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by imgumbydamnit · · Score: 1
      If considering the XO, check the specs. It looks like you can't use it at Everest base, but it won't kill it to be there.
      • Temperature: UL certification planned to 45C in Q32007, pending 50C certification in mid-2008;
      • Humidity: UL certification planned to IP42 (perhaps higher) when closed, the unit should seal well enough that children walking to and from school need not fear rainstorms and dust;
      • Maximum altitude: -15m to 3048m (14.7 to 10.1 PSIA) (operating), -15m to 12192m (14.7 to 4.4 PSIA) (non-operating);
      • Shock 125g, 2ms, half-sine (operating) 200g, 2ms, half-sine (non-operating);
      • Random vibration: 0.75g zero-to-peak, 10Hz to 500Hz, 0.25 oct/min sweep rate (operating); 1.5g zero-to-peak, 10Hz to 500Hz, 0.5 oct/min sweep rate (nonoperating);
      • 2mm plastic walls (1.3mm is typical for most systems).
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    24. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You didn't bother to read the GP post. OK, no one RTFA, but try to read what you're replying to.

    25. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be sure to wrap in in metal foil, to make a Faraday cage around your magnetic media.

    26. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by NateTech · · Score: 1

      Ironic that someone doing work on the Ice would reply, since I was just in one of my moods to read blogs and things about the Ice and was poking around various websites. An acquaintance has been to both McMurdo and Palmer with one flight down to the Pole for some reason. Enjoy your stay down there... it sounds more romantic to most folks than it really is, I know.

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    27. Re:hard drives die at high altitude by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      Plenty of places to shang wang in Shanghai, but I dunno if you'd want to FTP 4GB of data home from one of them.

  10. IBM by dal20402 · · Score: 1

    Used ThinkPad X31, if you can find one in good shape. Tiny and rugged as hell. Replace the hard drive with a new one (just to make sure it will last through your trip) and you should be good to go.

    Bring a small external DVD burner to burn your DVDs. You can leave that behind with less fear than the whole laptop.

    Don't buy a ThinkPad X4x -- they use the cheesy iPod-style 1.8" hard drives.

    1. Re:IBM by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Don't buy a ThinkPad X4x -- they use the cheesy iPod-style 1.8" hard drives.

      But you can buy X60-series (if you want to pay the price); they went back to 2.5".

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    2. Re:IBM by Pete+(big-pete) · · Score: 1

      Don't buy a ThinkPad X4x -- they use the cheesy iPod-style 1.8" hard drives.

      Yeah - got bitten by that myself, I bought an X40 nearly three years ago, and love it to bits. I completely missed the fact that it had a 1.8" drive though, and when 40GB started feeling a bit tight I decided to upgrade - almost bought a new drive twice, then figured that maybe I should check that it was a standard 2.5" drive before doing anything. Was quite shocked to see the tiny 1.8" drive, and was even more shocked to see the prices for upgrades/replacements if I wanted one.

      These days I generally lug around 1 or 2 USB drives for data, and keep the minimum amount of crap on the system disk, 40GB is nearly nothing these days for what is effectively my main computer. The Thinkpads are awesome machines though, and I will almost certainly replace the X40 with another ultraportable Thinkpad in the future. Pretty damned tough too.

      -- Pete.


  11. Solution: The Lappy 486 by Skee09 · · Score: 2, Funny

    * Exceedingly portable 42 pounds * 2MB Hard Drive * Several-color Monitor * Five Minute Battery Life * 512K RAM * Every time the "enter" key is pressed, everyone else in town will temporarily lose electricity * The battery burns 45 acres of rainforest as it is used as the Lappy's main energy source http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Lappy_486#Features

    1. Re:Solution: The Lappy 486 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's "Allegedly portable" not "exceedingly portable". What would that even mean?

      For the love of all that is good and holy, fix the HRWiki.

  12. spend money for the smallest, most rugged one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't be penny wise and pound foolish. If you are spending the money to go around the world, then spend the dough for the rugged, small laptop. The last thing you want to do is find your laptop breaking down 1/3 of the way through your trip. Have as small a laptop as possible, so that it's easiest to carry. Since this seems to be a large part of your trip, you shouldn't be trying to skimp on this, you pay for what you get.

  13. Thinkpad X-series by rxmd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In 2006 I bought a Thinkpad X60s when they were new. Last year I spent nine months doing field work in Central Asia with it, going round the various countries, between deserts and mountains, between +45 and -20 degrees Centrigrade, and all the while lugging it around on buses, in shared taxis and in ex-Soviet trains.

    Once it fell out of my bag off my back in Tashkent, five feet on solid concrete and landed on a corner. I thought "that was my laptop", opened it and it booted just fine. These are solid little devices. No optical drive, but I found I hardly ever have the need for one of those on the road.

    So that would be my recommendation. It's light, yet solid, and not underpowered. I've got the extended battery, which gives me 7 to 9 hours of battery life, and I also bought a worldwide on-site warranty option which would probably be useful in your situation as well.

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    1. Re:Thinkpad X-series by qw0ntum · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Concurred. I would not travel with anything other than my Thinkpad. The X60's are thin, light, durable, and reliable. Plus, they don't stand out that much like some other laptops (such as a Mac), which is a good thing.

      In my experience with my X60 (and my T60 for that matter) I've been able to carry them around without a case.

      I'd also second the comments that some have been making about backing up your most important documents onto flash drives. It might be useful even for data you want to share with people back home, since internet connections may not always be available and reliable. To paraphrase the quote, never underestimate the bandwidth of a flash drive on a FedEx plane.

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    2. Re:Thinkpad X-series by (H)elix1 · · Score: 1

      Second the x60s with the extended battery pack. Back when I covered EMEA and AP, I had zero issues with it. The power brick handled all sorts of dirty power, much that killed off other devices. You can even open this laptop on an aircraft in coach - important for me as I was doing the Minneapolis > Amsterdam > New Delhi run and back every week and a half.

      And yes - mine also survived a fall when one of our TSA folks fumbled it during a screening.

    3. Re:Thinkpad X-series by zornorph · · Score: 1

      I got a used X31 from eBay for a motorcycle trip to northern Alaska last summer. As other posters have said, they are small and reasably durable, especially for the price I got it for on eBay. Since the X series don't have optical drives, just bring some memory cards with you instead. All of this survived rattling/vibrating around in my metal panniers with nothing more than a thin neoprene 'bag' for protection and a bit of carboard.

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    4. Re:Thinkpad X-series by simontek2 · · Score: 1

      the X60's have a mini dock with a optic drive. you can get one. It has like less than half an inch to the X60. I love thinkpads, they take my abuse.

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      SimonTek
    5. Re:Thinkpad X-series by lemonylimey · · Score: 1

      I have an IBM X40, and a year ago I had a bicycle accident, being thrown off the bike at 20mph on to a concrete path. I landed smack on top of the X40, which was just sitting in a unpadded courier bag. Damage to laptop: Scratched corner. Damage to me: Sprained knee, fractured elbow.

      It's a tough laptop.

      The extended battery really does give it a 7 to 9 hour life, too.

    6. Re:Thinkpad X-series by raddan · · Score: 1

      Do you have this problem? When the wireless is on, the palmrest gets uncomfortably hot. Since I use this machine mainly for doing long stretches of programming when I'm away from my desk, the hot palmrest problem really bugs me. So much so that I'm considering swapping the X60 for an X41 that someone just handed in, which doesn't generate quite as much heat.

      But other than that-- the machine is indeed great, like you say. Small size and battery life were my main criteria, and it excels on both these points. And every detail on this machine is well-thought out. Love the keyboard light.

    7. Re:Thinkpad X-series by askbill · · Score: 1

      I as well purchased this laptop. x60s with the extended battery (lasts about 5 hours in my case) and EV-DO. I purchased it immediately when it came out.

      It is, hands down, the best piece of hardware I've ever owned in my life. Sure, I recommend Mac's to my friends so I don't have to fix them, but for my hard core, mobile friends, the x60s (now the x61) simply can not be beat.

      Another thing that doesn't always come into play when deciding on a laptop is the keyboard. I'd never tested a Thinkpad keyboard prior to making my purchase, however it's the best one I've ever used, including regular desktop keyboards. It was so good I've actually purchased a USB version of the Thinkpad keyboard to use with my desktop.

      If anyone is interested in doing additional research on a Thinkpad model, I recommend www.thinkpads.com forums. The folks there are pretty hardcore about their machines. Plenty of good information and assistance is available there.

      Good luck and safe travels!

  14. Another option... by jo7hs2 · · Score: 1

    Why not consider paper and a standalone DVD photo burner? I could also see mailing the memory cards home as you fill them. Personally, I wouldn't want to drag a computer around the world with me if I could accomplish the same thing with a lot less weight.

    1. Re:Another option... by tverbeek · · Score: 1

      If I were doing this myself, I'd ditch the whole idea of a "laptop" and bring something like ye olde Psion Series3a, which runs for weeks at a time on AA batteries, which can be purchased damn near anywhere on the planet. Beats trying to recharge off whatever the local AC generators are putting out. Older tech also stands a better chance of being fixed when/if you have problems with it. I remember having electrical problems with my Series3a when I was in the airport waiting for my flight from Boston to London, and I was able to fix it right there in the terminal with nothing more "high tech" than a Swiss Army knife and a gift-shop sewing kit. (Yeah, this was pre-9/11.)

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  15. PowerBooks and MacBooks are very solid by toby · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've dragged 2 different 17" Apple PowerBook G4s around the world a few times - maybe 100 flights, nearly a dozen countries in nearly every continent - and never had any glitch whatsoever. Both are still running perfectly, and both have been my every-day work machines in offices, hotels, wherever I am. The Apple universal power adapters are also very reliable (I've used them in every country I've been to). The current range of MacBooks should be equally dependable (but with much better battery life than the G4 :) ... and they run the most stable, secure and sexy desktop O/S.

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    1. Re:PowerBooks and MacBooks are very solid by norkakn · · Score: 2, Informative

      MacBooks are not built as well as PowerBooks. MacBook Pros are a bit better, but MacBooks aren't anywhere near as good. Sorry )-: (I support ~ 600 of them)

    2. Re:PowerBooks and MacBooks are very solid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actuly im a bit disapointed on the curent macbooks. i have had powerbooks wich was a robust machine but my current macbook feels flimsy and not a really good case designe att all. i cant speak for the macbook pro since i only have the non pro version.
      ok it's not as bad as the cheapest pc's but it's far from good

    3. Re:PowerBooks and MacBooks are very solid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The current range of MacBooks should be equally dependable (but with much better battery life than the G4 :) ... and they run the most stable, secure and sexy desktop O/S."

                Not necessarily. Macbooks have been found MUCH less reliable on average than older Mac portables. The older ones were pretty well custom Apple designs; the current Macbooks are an off-the-shelf design with the magnetic power connector put into it.

    4. Re:PowerBooks and MacBooks are very solid by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 1

      MacBooks (...) run the most stable, secure and sexy desktop O/S.

      Well of course they do, Linux runs on everything!

    5. Re:PowerBooks and MacBooks are very solid by Trogre · · Score: 1

      ...and they run the most stable, secure and sexy desktop O/S.

      Indeed they do. But if you're going to install Linux on it you'd probably be better off with a cheaper PC laptop.

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      "Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
    6. Re:PowerBooks and MacBooks are very solid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...The current range of MacBooks should be equally dependable (but with much better battery life than the G4 :) " I live in mexico and just spent one month carrying my 15" MacBookPro laptop traveling from mexico to london (8-10 hour flight, coach ouch) to liverpool (by train), to amsterdam (here we go again airports), to switzerland (airport again) then Lindau, germany, then back to london. I had my notebook used to backup photos from mi digital camera, to download and backup 720hd video from a cam, but it also server as charger for my Garmin Nuvi 200W gps. I don't really know very well how would a macbookpro would behave under the extreme weahter conditions you mention and I'm not gonna go blind-fan to say that I bet a mac computer will perform fantastic WHEREVER it is used... Considering that your laptop will be more used as a charger/backup1 of your data/internet tool/, I would only would care to bring with me some cheap, alternate backup media (just to be a backup freak from such a great trip, get SD cards, a small (in footprint) USB solid-state drive (this one you do want it sturdy and resistant). But considering that having a mac increases in a really big range the chance not to fail as windows will do, why would you spent money in a super-sturdy laptop hardware that will only let you see a blue screen freezing in your camp 1 base?. As I read in another post related with the 6 month-round the world trip... God I'm jealous! Model Name: MacBook Pro 15" Model Identifier: MacBookPro1,1 Processor Name: Intel Core Duo Processor Speed: 2 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 2 MB Memory: 2 GB

    7. Re:PowerBooks and MacBooks are very solid by VoltageX · · Score: 1

      I'd say DEFINITELY go for the Pro - the standard MacBook polycarbonate is absolute shit. I've had parts of my case replaced twice under warranty. The stuff just crumbles.

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  16. 12" powerbook g4 by mrcdeckard · · Score: 5, Interesting

    took mine with a motu traveler for recording in venice, berlin and kolobzeg. rock solid, even when recording a large rocksteady ska band. the aluminum case helps "ruggedfy" it, and the powersupply autosenses 220v. very small and light, and you should be able to pick one up fairly cheap now.

    i still can't understand why apple dropped the 12" laptop form.

    mr c

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    "Physics is like sex. Sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it." - R. Feynman
    1. Re:12" powerbook g4 by davecrusoe · · Score: 1

      Ditto that! My 12'' G4 has been *all over* the place, is fast, lasts a long, long time, picks up wireless, and takes one heck of a beating. A truly strong, light and tremendous travel machine.

    2. Re:12" powerbook g4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      double ditto- my 12" G4 survived rude, beer-spilling frenchmen and a drop or two in france this last year. held up nicely...

    3. Re:12" powerbook g4 by zip6 · · Score: 1

      I actually had the complete opposite experience when I maintained Apples for a publication company. Every single one of them failed and failed big, multiple times. From hard drives dying to screen dying to the logic board dying. The 12" PowerBooks I have maintained in the past saw more types of death than Bill Murray in Groundhog Day. The 15" were much more reliable. This is the reason that Apple killed off the line as they had constant problems with them which required massive service. Those machines were one of the few instances where the extended warranty was a must-buy. Interesting that you had good experiences with them. Good to know that the whole batch wasn't lemony.

    4. Re:12" powerbook g4 by Dusty101 · · Score: 1

      Same here: best computer I've ever owned. I used mine while plane-hopping for years, including monthly shifts working at 14000 feet. It's still the machine of choice when slobbing about at home & still looks great as well, despite being about 5 years old & my also having a 15" MacBook Pro now. And I think the parent was joking: the battery life of my little G4 is at least comparable to my juice-hungry Core2Duo MBP. Still not sure it'd have the battery life needed for the submitter's needs, though.

      So sad that they never produced a 12" MBP, & produced the pretty-but-much-less-useful Air instead. I think it's pretty damning that the Air makes me consider buying a used last-gen 12" Powerbook, just as insurance against my own machine dying...

    5. Re:12" powerbook g4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wondered this from the other companies too, and believe it's nothign more than with other inexpensive electronics products: they're cheap, and generate little revenue unless demand is as common as LED or watch sales. Go to a third world country and you'll have a much higher chance of buying it in firsthand markets. Secondhand if it is 10+ years old, like I believe this has to be by now.

    6. Re:12" powerbook g4 by Jethro · · Score: 1

      I just wanted to mention that I dropped my 12" G4 Powerbook off the 4' high TSA table at the airport and onto the cold cold airport concrete, and there was absolutely zero damage. Used it for 2 more years after that and I just now replaced it cause it was getting a little slow. And I /really/ wish they had a small MacBookPro. ):

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    7. Re:12" powerbook g4 by wwwillem · · Score: 1

      Friend of mine worked during the "G4 period" for Apple's service department. He was pretty convincing about how the "low-end" white laptop was way stronger than the nice aluminum pro version. Reason was that the standard notebook maybe had a cheap looking plastic outside, but the chassis was a poored magnesium-alloy or something frame. On the other hand the pro version was beautiful metal on the outside, but all plastic on the inside.

      As he said it, I would dare to drop those white plastic (looking) laptops from a meter to the floor and they will probably survice. Which you can't say for those fancy pros.

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  17. obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Soviet Russia, laptop carries you around the world!

  18. Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful
    A toughbook will cost you a huge wad of cash and is heavy. If/when it gets stolen/broken you're going to cry.

    I'd go for something very light and cheap. If it breaks and you need a replacement well you're still way ahead than if you'd bought a Toughbook.

    Also, instead of burning CDs, use SD cards or something small and light. They are far more likely to get through 3rd world post without getting stolen/broken than DVDs and you don't need a DVD drive. Sure they are more expensive, but EeePC or XO + bunch of SD cards is still way cheaper than a toughbook.

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    1. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by mobby_6kl · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sure, but Toughbooks, unlike pretty much all other laptops, are monkey-approved. I'd like to see your puny Eee match that.

    2. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Exactly. I have a toughbook, yes it survives water, sand, heat, freezing. but it costs $8000.00
      I also have an eee pc. neat toy.

      get the cheapest dell or HP they have on sale. it will do what you want and when it get's stolen you wont cry too bad.

      also everything important goes on a thumbdrive or uploaded to carbonite or other storage.

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    3. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by lurker4hire · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I second the eeePC but from experience...

      While I didn't have six months I did just return from one month in thailand. Since I was lugging my SLR along with me already I opted to do without the laptop and just upload from internet cafes.

      That didn't last long, it's too much of a PITA, I ended up buying an eeepc in chiang mai. Here's my recommendation:

      - eeePC (light small does everything you need with great battery life)
      - ditch the optical drive, you really don't need it and it'll be nothing but a liability while on the road. Instead take the money you're saving by buying a cheap laptop and just buy a bunch of memory cards for your camera (as the parent recommends, I really should read more than the subject before starting my own reply =\ ). Buy high capacity, and budget for buying more on the road. Mail complete ones home if you want, but honestly they're light and small and mail from developing world can be unreliable sometimes so I'd recommend hanging on to them until you're in the most developed centres and then UPS/fedex/etc them.

      Other than that, non tech tips I'm sure you've heard a thousand times already but here goes.
      -bring antibiotics for the inevitable case of dehli belly.
      -remember that you will bring as much stuff as you can possibly fit in your pack. buy a pack smaller than you think you need.
      -a headlamp will save you so much pain in the ass
      -you can buy flip-flops when you get there (you will want to hit a beach eventually) and ditch them when you leave. In fact the same goes for just about everything you think you might need for some portion of your trip. Only pack things you'll need for the whole trip, it's worth spending money on the road to save a few kgs.

      ok I'll stop... damn I'm jealous

      l4h

    4. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by rnswebx · · Score: 1

      I too would recommend an EEE from Asus. Solid state is necessary if you're going as high as the Everest base camps. DVD burning makes absolutely no sense to me, for your purposes. Rugged conditions don't seem to lend well to fragile discs. Bring along a bunch of 512 or 1gb memory cards with your EEE and you'll be fine. Hell, spend another $400 and get a backup laptop, and only add 2.2 pounds to your pack. Also note that the power supply for an EEE is basically like a cellphone charger, instead of the larger power bricks usually associated with laptops. This saves additional weight and space that is often overlooked. It's a no brainer to me.

    5. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by OldHawk777 · · Score: 1

      Get a few OLPC and 4G SD cards, then ....

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    6. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the guy can afford to do an around the world trip, he can afford a Toughbook 30 no problem. As for buying cheap solid state SD cards, once again, they are cheap and if you're going to shell out that kind of cash for a trip do you really want all your memories on a 10 dollar memory card? I think not.

      My suggestion, get the Toughbook and a decent web hosting provider (that does nightly backups). When you get to a location with a decent connection just FTP the files to the remote location. Best thing for disaster recovery. I would think the HDD for the Toughbook would make it for the duration of the trip than the SD cards via Air Mail.

    7. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The XO Laptop is serviceable in the field. So easy a 5-year-old can do it. Unfortunately they're hard to come-by, now that the buy-one-get-one program has been suspended. I was able to play with one at my local LUG and was very impressed with its capabilities. I recommend ebay if you'd want a second-hand one.

    8. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Angostura · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Take small presents that you can give to the local kids. ball point pens, small cheap items. Take photos of back home that you can show to people *if they ask*.

      Don't try to cram too much in. Stop places a while and watch the other tourists come and go. Learn a few words of the language.

    9. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Get a few OLPC and 4G SD cards, then ....

      Would be a fine recommendation -- if one could actually GET any OLPC hardware!

      The "Give One, Get One" promotion ended more than a month ago, and there's something like 5,000 of us who paid for our laptops in late 2007 and still won't be receiving them until perhaps March or April, due to the OLPC Foundation's disastrous mishandling of our orders.

      So unless you're willing to pay 80% markup on eBay, are an Australian Linux Users' Group member, or are a child in a third-world nation, good luck getting an OLPC laptop.

    10. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh, great, so the toughbook is tested on animals. Bad, bad Panasonic!!!!

    11. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      "I second the eeePC"

      I third the Eee PC

      Light-weight (under 2 lbs), smaller than a standard mouse-pad so you can carry it everywhere, capable of running XP or whatever OS you prefer from solid-state media (no hard drive).

      However we're not really provided enough information to successfully answer the question asked because one of the requirements is "burn DVD photo backups to mail home". Why DVD? 4.7 gigabytes worth of photos? Are you taking 10 megapixel uncompressed photos? I mean sure if you're trying to send 100 gigabytes worth of photos home it's far cheaper to burn 22 DVDs than buy 100 gigabytes of flash memory, but why so much storage for just photos? I thought at first you were taking digital video, which I could easily understand the DVD requirement, but you should be able to get a few 2gb USB thumb drives for $20 each (or less once you reach China ;) that'll handle all your photo needs and store them all in your pocket rather than lugging around an external DVD-RW and DVD-Rs.

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    12. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by MerlTurkin · · Score: 1

      I love my eee pc however battery life is not going to be suited for the Everest trip unless they have electrical outlets at the base camps to charge it. I'm pretty sure they don't! In the cold at Everest battery life will be even shorter.

    13. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by eonlabs · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How about picking up an OLPC laptop. Aren't they designed to be used in bizarre climates etc. They should also be waterproof and fairly robust.
      For $2-400 it might be worth taking a look at. Also, the software on those things isn't too bad. I've had the opportunity to mess around with one, if only for a few minutes.

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    14. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As Rick Steves recommends: bring postcards that show your home town.

      We live half an hour's drive from Seattle, so we took Seattle postcards when we visited Japan. When we got into conversations with people, we would pull out a Seattle postcard and give it to them. We met a couple of people who were big Mariners fans (the Seattle Mariners baseball team has a couple of Japanese guys) and we gave them postcards showing the baseball stadium. They were very, very happy.

    15. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 1

      Take small presents that you can give to the local kids. ball point pens, small cheap items.
      Odd ... if we did that in the US, we'd be lynched as pedophiles, but doing it in a foreign country is A-OK!
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    16. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Simon80 · · Score: 1

      Flash memory cards are more rugged than you think.

    17. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Dare+nMc · · Score: 1

      also: whatever the laptop buy a usb enclosure for the hard drive, since the asus is likely a ide get: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FNBYKW (this drive needs no power supply, only USB power from the PC)
      it would be even better to get a $200 32GB SSD with your operating system of choice ready to install, to put inside.

      If I were sold on needing Windows: I would buy the 16GB transcend SLC drive (much faster, and costlier than the 32GB above) and install standard OS stuff on that, I would buy the Dell Vostro dual core, for $599 and swap the SLC with its 160GB internal drive, put the old drive into the USB case (Dell cause it's a cheap dual core, duo procs stays responsive in XP even when waiting on a slow write to the SSD.) With the SSD, battery life is better, silent, and live through more vibration, and since it runs much cooler, better for the laptop. As external drive the standard 160 GB if treaty very nicely while in use, should survive nicely even a drop if off.

      It would be even better to buy the 16 SSD SLC for main, and 32GB SSD MLC for USB storage. But I would want to take my movies, so I would want the 160GB at the cost of power, and risk of vib damage.

    18. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by gearloos · · Score: 1

      one word..... WRONG.... Toughbooks are awesome. They are made to be reliable and traveling through 3rd world countries where the ..lol...geek squad won't do house calls to look at your private porn is a great reason to get one. Expensive? yes. I work at a power utility and all the technicians use them. Why? well, they don't break. Simple enough, it gets better when you factor in that they are working around the magnetic flux fields of 220,000 volt and 500,000 volt lines all day. they also bounce all day in the back of trucks running dirt roads to remote locations. If they can stand up to that, they probably can handle the occasional Kalahari day. Now as far as running windows on it... Well, no one can insure that Microsoft won't break the dam thing.

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    19. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Dare+nMc · · Score: 1

      didn't say: enclosure is so if your first cheap laptop dies (most likely only the screen will be cracked by a baggage handler) even if it is the drive (you didn't do the SSD?) you can often still get data off a dieing HD that is unfit to run a OS. I couldn't get my cracked laptop networked to copy on the road, until I was loaned a external monitor from a generous hotel receptionist's work PC (took over a hour of intensive flirting in a coal mining town, get the picture?)

    20. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by CRCulver · · Score: 1

      Take small presents that you can give to the local kids. ball point pens, small cheap items.

      That's no longer recommended. One, just as with giving money, it encourages a culture of begging. Two, though people hoped that by giving pens instead of cash you would be encouraging literacy, the children will just sell the pens and buy candy. When I travel in poor (but not even miserably poor) areas of the world and am set upon by perfectly healthy children thrusting out their palms and insisting, "1 euro/dollar!", I curse every tourist who had been through the area before.

    21. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Do not give any small "presents that you can give to the local kids. ball point pens, small cheap items" it encourages begging.

    22. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by timchampion · · Score: 1

      If I were you, I'd go to eBay and buy a use Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 (search for "toughbook 29"). Should be well under $1000

    23. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > A toughbook will cost you a huge wad of cash and is heavy.

      Not true. Just buy a used one, like the Panasonic CF-W2.
      I own one - also bought it used - and have used it
      for two years now.

      After owning it for so long I still think it's the best
      and most useful piece of hardware I ever bought. In fact,
      it's even worth the price it costs new...

    24. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Endo13 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but when choosing between carrying that or an Eee, in a backpack for a year... I know which I'd pick.

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    25. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by LordMidge · · Score: 1

      Good comments

      Only thing I've never figured out it why people suggest a headlight... went traveling for 15 months though asia and africa and don't think I ever thought that a headlight would be handy. A light of some sort was occasionally useful but my keyring was easily enough.. maglight a bit better as it light the whole room.

      Meh

    26. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't tell Gary Glitter that...

    27. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by sacherjj · · Score: 1

      A 3 LED headlamp is small and light and very useful. I also keep a single LED clip on key chain light for backpacking or bicycle touring. I can clip this on the collar of my t-shirt at night and not have to look for it when I need a little light in the tent at night.

    28. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by DoctorSVD · · Score: 1

      Ha! My 1 1/2 year old son will break that sucker in no time.

    29. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by Malkin · · Score: 1

      "-you can buy flip-flops when you get there (you will want to hit a beach eventually) and ditch them when you leave. In fact the same goes for just about everything you think you might need for some portion of your trip. Only pack things you'll need for the whole trip, it's worth spending money on the road to save a few kgs."


      Agreed on this, as long as you don't contribute too much to waste. Color me weird, but I have a huge amount of fun going on scavenger hunts for travel necessities in foreign countries. The funniest was the time I went into a kusuri in Tokyo, looking for antiseptic for a nasty scrape on my arm. Through a combination of broken Japanese and interpretive dance, the very amused pharmacist gave me something akin to what we call "Bactine" in the US. There was a fair bit of katakana on the bottle, but none of it appeared to be anything even vaguely resembling any language I knew.

      I used to travel extensively with one of the old HP Pavilion laptops with the rubber corners (man, I miss those!). The optical drive was starting to get quite dodgy, after a number of years, until one day in Portugal, when it fell from a dresser onto the hardwood floor of my room in the pensão where I was staying. I thought for sure the machine was a goner, but it worked just fine after that. In fact, miraculously, the drop fixed the optical drive.

      I think the EeePC/XO advice is solid. These are great machines for just chucking in a bag and hitting the road. Every time I go through an airport with my current boat-anchor of a laptop, I kick myself, and wish I had something smaller.
    30. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by OldHawk777 · · Score: 1

      I know, the GOGO for OLPC was/is wild. I got my two at the end of December, did a MAC allow access list on a new 802.11n connected to the internet via Ethernet homeplug router and ran a few apps and network/browser test ... everything performed as advertised on OLPC and laptop.org.

      Meshnet popped right in after a few configuration steps for the laptops both laptops showed up on each/other laptop. A download update of the software had no problems and simple instructions.

      I am happy with my two, I hope you get your laptop soon, I am 55yo and take mine to CPk in NYC just to look really cool for an old phreak-geek. The laptop is a little troublesome to use due to big hands, poor eyesight, and it ain't my home-beast for speed and versatility, but damn I'm impressed enough to take one wherever I go. In another couple months I'll give'em away to family, friends, or maybe the local kids ward in a hospital .... At work when I pull it out ... the M$IT-jocks frown, but don't dare speak, they know I will ask ... What have you done today to make this "Cat5 only" network more secure, my way of saying go upload a M$patch in your ass. It is good being one of the fearless old guys at work (bills all paid, no kids at home/college, wife retired (HC=11) golfing daily ...).

      The laptops are fun distraction/hobby, cute, capability packed, and very stylishly cool for everyone to use and give to friends and family. Oh, email is best with done with Gmail or Ymail!

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    31. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC or XO. by mindaktiviti · · Score: 1

      That's the kind of thing you should be discouraging because it just encourages begging in those countries.

      Case in point: India - children always ask for stuff and it's usually pens.

      Bhutan on the other hand, the children aren't used to begging and don't ask for anything. Both countries share the same currency value (the Ngultrum is equal in value to the Indian Rupee).

  19. Alternative Suggestion by chainsofchaos · · Score: 1

    Skip the DVD backups and carry some larger memory keys, they're nearly indestructible and light. You can purchase them in most airports. DVD burners are prone to dust, dirt, breakage etc. Also, you have to carry media, then try to mail it without damage. I'd suggest for thin and light a EEE PC, 7" screen, solid state hard drive, cheap to replace. Get a light aluminum hard shell and you're good to go. I've traveled with a 14", 13" and 10" laptop. By far, the smallest laptop was the best for weight and ease of use. Just check to see if you are able type on such a small keyboard. Upgrade the ram to a couple gigs and load XP, if that's what your familiar with. The base operating system is a type of Linux and is pretty good. http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product.htm

  20. eeepc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should get an EeePC instead. Instead of backing up using a DVD burner, just juggle 3-4 8gb SD cards. The laptop is very light, small and has almost no moving parts (flash for hard drive), so it should be relatively rugged... that, and it's cheap enough that you could replace it without too financial worry.

  21. You're asking (partially) the wrong question by wonkavader · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not just what laptop to bring, but what to carry it in so that you don't look like a rich guy carrying a laptop. I suggest something extremely light, and underpowered, and small. OLPC jumps to mind immediately. But the key is nobody knowing you have it, so that it doesn't a. get you jumped, and b. walk off in the night or when you leave it in your apartment/hotel room/tent, or what have you.

    Don't get a laptop bag. Wrap it in a shirt or something and put it in a canvas backpack. If the machine doesn't look like it'll take that abuse, you're asking for trouble on one front or another.

    Whatever you get, immediately try to make it look like crap.

    I chose the wrong bag when I was in Madagascar, and KNEW it after about a day or so, there. I did pick the right laptop, though -- a cheapo dell. I put stuff on usb memory sticks, so that my data was always both on the laptop and in my room.

    1. Re:You're asking (partially) the wrong question by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree with wonkavader, but I suggest using a laptop sleeve. A sleeve offers better padding than a shirt as well as some rudimentary water repellence. I carry my MacBook in an InCase neoprene sleeve in my old knapsack and nobody knows unlike those folks walking around with laptop bags and obvious computer knapsacks.

    2. Re:You're asking (partially) the wrong question by sankyuu · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Seconded about the bag. Having stuff stolen from me before while travelling, I was wise to put my Thinkpad X31 into a cheap dark green plastic A4-size document envelope from Office Warehouse. It was like the MacBook Air envelope ad, but done 5 years ago. It just fit, and the X61 being the same size would be perfect for the same. It kept the rain out, and prying eyes away. It didn't offer impact protection, although I doubt my Thinkpad would have needed that much.

    3. Re:You're asking (partially) the wrong question by blackmonday · · Score: 1

      The OLPC doesn't burn DVDs.

    4. Re:You're asking (partially) the wrong question by rabiddeity · · Score: 1

      I don't know if you know about this, but all the OLPC XOs I've seen are BRIGHT GREEN. If you're trying to keep a low profile, nothing screams "look at me" like neon green anything. Sure, nobody will know about it if it's in a bag, but you do intend on using it eventually, right?

    5. Re:You're asking (partially) the wrong question by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Then paint it black. I painted my Dell 6400 (which I'm typing on now) dull black so that it won't be noticable. Inside my backpack, the laptop is wrapped in a plastic bag from some department store. But be careful when painting, and tape off the screen even though the cover will be closed when painting. The paint gets in between the top and bottom halves and gets itself on the screen even with the laptop closed! Some thinner applied quickly got the paint off (even though the manual recommends against just that).

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    6. Re:You're asking (partially) the wrong question by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 1

      "But the key is nobody knowing you have it, so that it doesn't a. get you jumped, and b. walk off in the night or when you leave it in your apartment/hotel room/tent, or what have you."

      With the EEE, just take the SD card out and put it in your wallet - the laptop is then ok to leave in a hotel room (since it doesn't contain your data any more, and the replacement cost is small)

    7. Re:You're asking (partially) the wrong question by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

      Which part of his need to burn DVD's did you miss?

      I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Panasonic Toughbook, personally.

    8. Re:You're asking (partially) the wrong question by Jethro · · Score: 1

      > Whatever you get, immediately try to make it look like crap.

      I always cover my laptop in strips of gaffer's tape. Picture here.

      I call it a theft-deterrent. The nice thing about gaffer's tape is it looks like duct-tape so people go "why would I steal a laptop that's held together with duct-tape?" but it'll actually come off without leaving any residue.

      It's not as water resistant as duct tape, but then neither is your laptop.

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  22. Asus Eee by Rix · · Score: 1

    They're small enough to fit in a the pocket of a pair of cargo pants, and cheap enough not to worry about breaking. You can probably just burn dvds at netcafes, but you could also pick up a usb dvd burner if you really want.

    1. Re:Asus Eee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, having used many HPs, Dells, and Macs, I'd suggest the Eee also. Its super light, extremely small, is fairly ruggedly built (the casing is especially rugged -- the keyboard is not), and it has flash-based storage. Its powerful enough for your purposes, though I'd suggest Abiword over the preinstalled OpenOffice. If your camera happens to use SD cards, it has a built in reader.

    2. Re:Asus Eee by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 1

      An Eee PC with a USB card reader and a small pile of cards. CF is too big to carry a pile of, and Xd is probably too small to carry round without losing (although those cradles that hold 6 seem to be the go). Get a bunch of cards in 1G+ (whatever you can afford) and burn/post. IF you sticky-tape the XD to the inside of a card and mail it back it is likely to look and feel like one of thise singing birthday cards when it passes through customs (so it won't get lost).

      If you're paranoid you can even encrypt them.

      The Eee is a good option - and you could even spec the hell out of it like the article that was on here last week. A bit of good GPS software and a receiver would certainly help on a trek such as yours.

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    3. Re:Asus Eee by Constantine+XVI · · Score: 1

      You can forget about the USB card reader. The Eee has a built-in SD(HC) card slot.

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    4. Re:Asus Eee by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 1

      Except it doesn't have a built in Xd or small form factor reader, meaning if your camera takes those you're S.O.L

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    5. Re:Asus Eee by Constantine+XVI · · Score: 1

      SD is pretty small, and is more or less the standard for consumer/prosumer cameras. XD is only a few hairs smaller, more expensive, and is only used by Olympus and Fuji.

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  23. EEE PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its under $400, solid state, keep all your data on digital cards and buy an external dvd burner for backups

    At under 1 kg you can carry it around with you daily, and if it gets stolen buy another and still save compared to other options

  24. flash hard drive by smellsofbikes · · Score: 0, Redundant

    A: it's less likely to get injured in an impact
    B: as weird as this sounds, mechanical hard drives with spinning discs don't work well at high altitudes, like Everest Base Camp. Apparently many hard drives fail at over roughly 3500 meters altitude. With that said, none of my computers or apple ipod/creative zen have had troubles with extended operation -- several days at a time -- at 11,000' elevation, and it's not a problem if they're not running. (I didn't previously know the hard drive cases were vented to atmosphere, although I guess it makes sense.)

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  25. olpc, like the tag says... by quixote9 · · Score: 1

    useless advice, of course, since they're not selling them, but that plus a usb-connectable dvd drive would be what you're looking for, if you can deal with a small, funky keyboard. Maybe you can get one off ebay? Install Xubuntu on a 16GB SD card, and you'd have the light, cheap, indestructible computer of your dreams. Sunlight readable screen, too. I use mine on the beach on Southern California, and blowing sand doesn't get into it either.

    Other than that, you are very out of luck. I *carefully* transported a Toshiba and, later, a Sony Vaio to and from work on a bicycle. It was in a padded case, the roads were all smooth blacktop, and the rest of the time it was having a quiet life on a desk or at home. The Sony needed the hard disk replaced in about four months. The Toshiba developed screen problems because of a loose connection after about three months. These were newish laptops. The problems were due to shaking, not old age.

    If you can't get an olpc, maybe get two Eee's and make arrangements to have the second one sent to you when the first one craps out.

  26. fixing for you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Why not consider paper and a film camera?
    Fixed that for you. Seriously, though, if you're going to forsake a laptop for paper, you might as well forsake digital camera for film. Film will offer a more robust media (more likely to stand up to the various abuses perpetrated by postal systems of the world), offer much higher quality photos (don't even try to debate this point-- this if not opinion, it is fact. The resolution and dynamic range of 8perf (24x36) 35mm film is unmatched in even $30k medium format digital backs), and can be run through very inexpensive and rugged (metal body!) cameras (e.g. Canonet QL17).

    The question is whether he wants ultimate reliability and quality (film, paper & pen), or to offer friends (or the world?!) immediate access to his thoughts and images (blogging via laptop, digital camera, etc).

    Sidenote: the captcha for this post is 'archival' ..haha.
    1. Re:fixing for you... by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      offer much higher quality photos (don't even try to debate this point-- this if not opinion, it is fact. The resolution and dynamic range of 8perf (24x36) 35mm film is unmatched in even $30k medium format digital backs)

      What a stupid remark? ISO 25 film? ISO 3200? Why not suggest slide film? Are you going to tell us that the resolution of a P45 digital back (7,216 x 5,412) is less than that of, say ISO 400 film (yes, I'm aware that film is at some level an analogue medium, but let's discuss grain in a moment). 4,800DPI? I think not. Film grain less than 5 thousands of a millimeter? Hah.

      Fact, my ass - says who? Certainly not 35mm enthusiasts, photographers, physicists, hardware geeks, film developers, that's for sure.

    2. Re:fixing for you... by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1

      Seriously, though, if you're going to forsake a laptop for paper, you might as well forsake digital camera for film

      And probably forsake a lot more, to make room to carry all that film!

    3. Re:fixing for you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm going to work through your post somewhat out of order. First of all, the link you provided is disingenuous at best-- it's a google search for "35mm film," when the reference I made to film wasn't just "35mm film," but specifically 8 perf film. Without even following any of the google links, I can see the third is referring to 4 perf motion picture film, which is significantly smaller than 8 perf. Even so, 4 perf is scanned often enough at 6k pixels of horizontal resolution (4 microns per pixel), although this is often dithered to 4k, which is a more common scan size. Kodak's 5201 (4perf motion picture film - ASA50) might benefit from a 6k scan, but yes, 4k is sufficient for most stock you'd run into (especially considering the rise in cost versus reduction in return on doing 6k and 8k scans).

      I was being somewhat hyperbolic in my post, to avoid this exact scenario! Except, of course, I'd envisioned (if I hadn't made my little disclaimer that you took exception to) some jerkoff replying saying how his point and shoot he bought at Best Buy is 11 megapixels, and then I'd have to reply explaining that resolution is one small factor to consider, and that the optics on their point and shoot likely suck, and the dynamic range of film is well beyond the 45-50db their 8bit JPG point&shoot can resolve, and that "11 megapixels" is inherently misleading and one must consider how that resolution is arrived at.

      But even if you just want to talk resolution, the sensor on the P45 has a standard checkerboard bayer mosaic. This means for the 7200pixel wide image it produces, only 3600 of those pixels are represented in the green channel, with 1800 for red and 1800 for blue. Let's point your beloved P45 at a highly detailed object comprised of varying shades of blue, and we'll see how well those 1800 horizontal pixels hold up. Meanwhile, the "lowly" 4 perf film we talked about earlier (that I conceded is more reasonable to scan at 4000 wide instead of 6000, well, we point that film at a blue object and we get 4000 UNIQUE horizontal pixels in our 4k scan, not 1800! ;) This is a bit pedantic on my part, as debayer algorithms are very good nowadays (at least for still cameras-- motion video has some issues still), but I wanted to make the point that not all resolution is equal.. you must consider the optics in front of the recording media (which may degrade the recording quality), as well as the way the resolution is derived (bayer imagers have inherently less resolution, and derive their final resolution by performing mathematical calculations to fill in missing pixels).

      As I said, my statement is hyperbolic, and i'd definitely take $30,000 digital back over a $90 used Canonet that I suggested-- the P45 is a nice back, and compares well to 35mm and even 4x5 film from what i've read. My original statement that film offers much higher quality photos than digital (and stating it is FACT) was a reference to whatever digital camera the orginator of the /. article would be using, not the most expensive digital back that you can buy. And I would definitely be willing to put a cheap rangefinder or filmSLR against a $1,000 - 5,000 DSLR. 35mm film (especially low ASA) will have tons of resolution, and I would doubt if any digital on the market has yet surpassed it in latitude. The overall point was that if you don't need immediate digital access to your photos, film will be more robust and offer a better archive medium to boot. Just the subconcious impression of seeing grain makes things look better to most viewers-- i'd gladly blow my Velvia shots up to billboard size (where grain would be easily visible up close) before I'd trust a DSLR for the same task (where nice square pixels would be easily visible up close!)

      In summary: chill out, I wasn't saying your precious digital backs are now paperweights ;) Also, your web site appears to be broken in firefox (clicking on about, blog, contact, etc do nothing for me).

  27. what worked for me by BlueStraggler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Was one of those $2 notebooks made out of paper. They are lightweight, easy to use, and replaceable just about anywhere. They accept a variety of input devices, can survive being dropped from a large distance, and work reasonably well even after getting dunked in a river, although the fit and finish may suffer. They can exchange data with just about anything, by the simple expedient of tearing out pages. They have amazing translation and cross-cultural communication capabilities - just hand the notebook and your pen to the guy you are trying to get directions from, and he'll whip up a great little vector drawing in the local language to show you which turns to take. It has a crude but useful backup system, which consists of ripping out important pages and mailing them home. There is a very cool built-in security feature, which is that nobody wants your goddam notebook, so it will still be there in that café tomorrow when you remember where you left it. You can attach nearly anything to your files, even actual physical objects, if you bring some scotch tape with you.

    And when you get home, take some of the thousands of dollars you saved, and hire a typist to transcribe it all for you. Or save even more money and take a week to do it yourself.

    1. Re:what worked for me by XPisthenewNT · · Score: 1

      This is my thought, exactly.

      I didn't post because I hate solutions that don't cover everything. If they don't fit all the requirements they are not a complete solution. So let me take a shot on those requirements:

      1) Blogging

      If you really want to do up to the minute blogging, it's probably to let people at home know you're ok. Try the following, all funded by money saved from the laptop purchase. 1) Internet cafes, 2) Phone call home to someone important (parents?) who will be kind enough to post a blog for you, using the passwords you've shared with them before you left, 3) Mo-blog from a global mobile phone, or get prepaids or something. You can set up a blog to post from a text message (to an email address), right?

      2) Burning DVD's

      Get a DVD-burning camcorder, and just mail the original DVD's if you can't find an internet cafe with a burner. They might get lost in the mail, but probably not. If you mail them to your blogging phone buddy (and they are savvy) you might also get a video blog out of it!

    2. Re:what worked for me by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 2

      Many years ago when I did my first big trip, the ability to post pictures and stories of my travels for my friends was one of the things that helped to maintain connections both between the people back home, and those met on the road. I have thousands of pictures from the travels; it was before the days of digital cameras, as well as a couple notepads that I wrote for my personal journal. While the crate of photos and the journals might be cool for the next generation, nothing took the place of the website for today.

      A couple years ago I did a little blog from "our little island", and it was similarly useful (and a whole lot easier to deal with).

      I have to say it is idiotic to just put everything in a paper journal, no matter what the practicality, fails to realize some of the benefits of being able to edit and make information available to others.

      In my day, I used a Palm Pilot plus an external folding keyboard to make things work. Today I would go for an Eee PC or the PDA + keyboard route again. Not great for managing pictures, but adequate for writing.

    3. Re:what worked for me by JonathanR · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's bitch writing a 6 megapix photo to storage tho'.

    4. Re:what worked for me by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They have amazing translation and cross-cultural communication capabilities - just hand the notebook and your pen to the guy you are trying to get directions from, and he'll whip up a great little vector drawing in the local language to show you which turns to take.

      It might be a vector graphic in his head, but I think that the device is only capable of raster graphics...

    5. Re:what worked for me by Lally+Singh · · Score: 1

      Yeah but backing it up is a bitch.

      More seriously, I'd say look at how often you're gonna get online and want backups. When you've got that consider:
      1) rsync.net for backups. you can run out of a country buck naked and still have your data.
      2) how much delta information you're making. Incrementals may make it worthwhile to use memory sticks.

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    6. Re:what worked for me by BRSloth · · Score: 1

      I was about to suggest that, plus some 256mb SD cards for the photos. Take the pictures, just send a small piece back home, get another one, fill it up.... I guess it would be cheaper than buying a laptop just to burn photo CDs.

    7. Re:what worked for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you can't beat the battery life!
      Anyway, great point!

    8. Re:what worked for me by gobbo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah but backing it up is a bitch.

      Step 1: photocopy.
      Step 2: stuff envelope, post
      Step 3: retrieve from relative upon return.

    9. Re:what worked for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh you're a real genius aren't you? Upload the data or use a memory stick.. Who came up with that idea for you? Your grandmother? 'Backing it up is a bitch'.. for you, there's an element of truth in that. Go home to your grandmother and go back to being a software genius in her eyes, because your self-aggrandisement isn't pulling the wool over anyone's eyes here at Slashdot..

    10. Re:what worked for me by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 1

      While the crate of photos and the journals might be cool for the next generation, nothing took the place of the website for today.

      Nothing says that you can't simply scan the analog pictures and type up the paper notes for a website. This might even be preferable, since you can edit, give everything a narrative flow &c.

      I have to say it is idiotic to just put everything in a paper journal, no matter what the practicality, fails to realize some of the benefits of being able to edit and make information available to others.

      A paper journal is eminently editable: you cross out what you no longer like. You can make the information available to others by...wait for it...typing it up into a website or magazine article or book or whatever later on.

      I have to say it is idiotic to store one's trip memories digitally. There's nothing like thumbing through an old journal from a decade or more in the past, knowing that this page was in a pub in London, that page was in an army camp from the Phillipines and so forth. Consider your descendants: they're much more likely to keep papers, letters and notebooks than digital data. Your great-grandchildren will feel a much deeper connexion to you reading your handwriting on a page you wrote in what used to be Germany than they would reading a blog entry about the exact same thing.

  28. toughbooks by recharged95 · · Score: 1
    The one with the membrane keyboard.

    6hr battery life, water resistant, dropped several times, still runs like a champ. (used in a car environment). A bit to type though.

  29. Rugged laptops by ultima · · Score: 1

    The Toughbook C30s are about as good as you are going to find in a fully rugged portable, but expend to spend about $4000 for a loaded unit.

    That said, this guy: http://www.strikingviking.net/ went around the world with a Toshiba Tecra. He apparently had serious problems with a mac and did OK with a vaio.

  30. Burn your DVD at internet cafes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most can easily convert CF or SD cards to DVD. Its easier then carrying around a DVD burner (which will break or freeze at 18,000').

  31. Nokia N810 and cheap Flash by russ1337 · · Score: 1

    I'm in a similar position however not doing nearly as many countries, and I'm thinking the Nokia N810 is right for me. (looking at the n800 also)

    It has GPS, wifi, bluetooth and all that, so you may want to pair it with a full size folding bluetooth keyboard.

    As for cheap media to send photos home?, how about a bank of SD cards - you can get them as cheap as for 128MB. You can of course get 1GB for $5 from Newegg also.

    I'm interested in your final decision.

    1. Re:Nokia N810 and cheap Flash by russ1337 · · Score: 1

      *slaps forehead* That should read as cheap as 49c for 128MB. You can of course get 1GB for $5 from Newegg also.

    2. Re:Nokia N810 and cheap Flash by bartle · · Score: 1

      I purchased an n810 recently. The device generally lives up to its promise, I find it very useable around town, but there are a few points that disappoint me when I consider relying on it for a long trip.

      The internal GPS is nearly worthless. If you plan to rely on it at all buy an external bluetooth module.

      Though the device uses a standard Nokia plug, it can only be charged that way, not through USB.

      The included cable only runs the n810 as a USB client. The n810 can run as a host but no one (in the USA anyway) has produced the appropriate adapter to do this.

      So there's a ton of promise with this little device but right now you'd have to bring quite the sack of accessories to make it useful on an extended trip.

    3. Re:Nokia N810 and cheap Flash by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1
      Yeah right, click through to order and you end up with

      Review Order Item Information
       
      Title: SanDisk 128MB SD Secure Digital Memory Card 1 $0.49 $0.49
       
      Sub-Total: $0.49
      USPS First-Class Mail Shipping: $14.95
      Insurance: $0.99
      Grand Total: $16.43
      So it's really $16.43 not $0.49
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    4. Re:Nokia N810 and cheap Flash by jonsmirl · · Score: 1

      I have the 770, N800 and N810. I just got my N810. All are excellent for traveling. I would be concerned about taking the N810 into harsh environments. N800 seems to be sealed up better. I have about 10 2GB flash cards. Fill them up when you are in the bush and then use an Internet cafe to send them to your web server. No need to mail them home, they will take weeks to get there if they get there at all. Get a camera which takes SD cards so that you can use the N800 to look at them and delete the junk.

    5. Re:Nokia N810 and cheap Flash by darjen · · Score: 1

      I was wondering if someone would mention a Nokia N-series. If you're gonna go around the world, seems like one of those with a bluetooth keyboard would be, by far, the most portable you could hope for and still have an 800x480 screen. I had a N800 for a while. I ended up having to sell it though because I just couldn't get the wifi to connect at work. Kept giving me a stupid link-local ip address. It worked pretty well on my trip to NYC however.

      Despite that wifi problem I had, I'm still thinking about getting another one. They are almost just too portable to pass up...

    6. Re:Nokia N810 and cheap Flash by GeneralAntilles · · Score: 1

      See here for N810 host mode information. http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14092

    7. Re:Nokia N810 and cheap Flash by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      I was going to recommend something like this basically.

      If you drop the DVD-R requirement, any PDA or smartphone should do the trick, really. I recently got an HTC S730. The slide-out keyboard is actually pretty good for emails and notes, but I could imagine it'd get old pretty fast if your writing style approaches Neal Stephenson's levels of verbosity. As the parent suggests, this could solved with a bluetooth keyboard, although I'm yet to try that. Unlike the Nokia tablet however, this thing not only is a functional GSM phone, but also looks like one too. This means less attention to yourself since phones are much more common in 3rd world countries than shiny gadgets with huge touchscreens.

      Still, if I were doing something like that, I'd probably also consider something more powerful. Like maybe a TyTN II, or better yet, something with a VGA screen. It's quite a bit more expensive than an S730, but also much more capable due to the tilting* touchscreen. I still have my old Asus A600 PDA, and there are things at which it's still much better than the S730. You could write your rants in a full office environment with something like SoftMaker Office, resize and edit the photos from your camera in PocketArtist before uploading them, etc.

      I hope this doesn't sound like an ad, I've actually happily used all this stuff (except for the TyTN), and while I'm not sure if this would be my final choice for a trip like that, I'd certainly think about this solution.

      PS. Looking at the HTC product listing, they also have some sort of weird laptop/tablet/PDA hybrid thingie called Shift which seems pretty small and light (7", 800g).

      *The tilt feature could be useful if you put the device on the table while typing on the BT keyboard.

    8. Re:Nokia N810 and cheap Flash by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, good point, especially when USPS will overnight a 1 pound package from Phoenix to Seattle for $19, you can see there's just a little padding in their shipping.

    9. Re:Nokia N810 and cheap Flash by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Best thing is if you order 100 of them it would cost $1643, which means you're paying $1600 for postage. I could see if it was a one off fee to encourage you to buy in volume, even though it seems legally questionable to describe it as a postage fee in that case.

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    10. Re:Nokia N810 and cheap Flash by russ1337 · · Score: 1

      You're quite right. Opps. THey are a total ripoff. I guess I gave a bad example, but the idea of using cheap SD cards is still a reasonable one. (with an n800 at approx $250 leaves you about $750 to spend on SD cards before you equal the price of a decent mini-laptop.... ) The other guy that posted in this thread uses his wi-fi to send his pics home from his n800.

  32. Moleskine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I did this kind of trip in 2001.
    Trust me, bring some Moleskine notebooks, and a USB adaptor for whatever memory cards your camera uses. Then, just upload the pix at cybercafes as you go. These days, if you can find a place to mail something, you can find a cybercafe.

    A laptop is not worth the PITA factor.

    1. Re:Moleskine by TheDugong · · Score: 2, Informative

      FWIW I agree. Laptops are a pain when traveling. Take loads of memory cards and enjoy the trip while not worrying so much about your bag being stolen. Internet Cafes are everywhere.

  33. Panasonic by Aeron65432 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The industry standard for what it seems you're looking for is the Panasonic Toughbook. The Toughbook is commonly used by EMTs, police, and the US Military. "The Toughbook was tested on numerous levels, while being compared to a Toshiba of a similar specification, kept in a secure laptop bag. These tests included the laptops being used as tennis rackets, dunked in a water tank and being blown up by "the equivalent to two sticks of dynamite" and "20 litres of fuel". After the latter experiment the Toshiba was destroyed, but the Toughbook, continued to work.

    involves the sort of torture that would have lesser laptops admitting to witchcraft. It's trained to withstand 4 inches of rain in an hour pounding down on the keyboard and screen, be frozen at minus 29 degrees centigrade and baked at plus 60. And to gain the name of Toughbook, any design must pass all these tests - twice!"


    Pretty reliable laptop, huh. On a side note, how did you get the money to do this adventure?

    1. Re:Panasonic by ddrichardson · · Score: 1

      We use the Toughbook in the military for aircraft technical documentation, they are damn near indestructable.

      On the downside, the trackpads are terrible - they seem to have a film over them that eventually starts to move seperately to the trackpad. Other than that they are great. Oh there is one more thing - the hard drive connections are weirdly flimsy, they don't break but get disconnected very easily. It's not the end of the world but it is annoying.

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  34. Take a Toughbook, but forget DVDs... by Aphrika · · Score: 1

    ... the media itself is fragile and you'd be surprised at the number of places you still can't buy them (I don't know about Nepal and Namibia though, but I'd wager places in between will have a hard time with them). I'd go for mailing memory cards home, or the good ol' internerweb.

    Also, the DVD drive itself is fragile and will pack up way before you get back.

    Personally, I'd go for something small, light, and with a solid state drive like the eeePC or OLPC if you were on a budget. If money is no option and you want an all-singing, all-dancing laptop that's going to survive, I'd look at the fantastic Panasonic Toughbooks, specifically the CF-W7 model, which weighs in at a sweet 2.4 pounds.

    1. Re:Take a Toughbook, but forget DVDs... by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

      You want something like the Toughbook 30. If it can survive in Iraq getting banged around, blown up, baked in the sun, or even submerged all the while operating in a dusty and dirty environment then it will probably fit the bill for your world trip. The only downsides are that it is expen$ive, a bit bulky, and somewhat heavy, but the military swears by these things so you know that it will take whatever you can dish out.

    2. Re:Take a Toughbook, but forget DVDs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The panasonic cf 19 is small, light, and nearly indestructable. Unfortunately, it has a small keyboard and is ~3k.

      From personal experience, once you've used a toughbook in the field, there is no comparison.

  35. Water, Heat, Cold, Dust Resistant? Try the XO by d0ida · · Score: 1

    I have an XO laptop from the One Laptop per Child program. I haven't travelled the world with it yet, but I can tell you it is perfectly capable of being a lightweight machine for internet browsing and writing. Its specs allow for toleration of extreme environments and voltages for charging. I can charge mine in the car. The battery lasts me about 3 hours, or more if I dial down the backlight and turn off the wifi. The screen really is sunlight-readable. Another comment talked about storing photos on an SD card. That could work since the laptop has an SD slot and three USB ports. Of course you would have to see if the OS would work with your camera. The machine itself weighs about three pounds and is smaller than an 8.5x11 inch piece of paper and just a little thicker than a US quarter is in diameter. Caveat: the keyboard is small for adult-size fingers. Some custom installation is needed to get things like Flash websites to work. Oh, and you'll have to get one off Ebay unless you have some helpful contact since they are not being sold singly at present.

  36. Harddrive... by rew · · Score: 1

    As noted above, needs stating again...

    Harddisks are specified to work upto 10000 feet or 3000m. Above that, you're on thin ice. Solid state drives are becoming available. Sounds like a good plan to go with one of those.

  37. Toughbooks by sibsybcys · · Score: 0

    I've seen a lot of Toughbooks take a very serious beating. From a construction worker who frequently drops his in the field to a electrician who doesn't even flinch when he hears his bent and scratched Toughbook dinging from side to side in his truck, they're good at surviving.

    They're a far cry from from elegant and stylish but honestly, they sound right up your alley.

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  38. I used to travel a lot ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Less is better. Nothing is a good ideal. As Ryszard Kapuscinski pointed out, to have things is to die. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryszard_Kapuscinski Kapuscinski traveled the world as a reporter. He got into places that no other reporter could and got out alive. If you're truly going to rough places, the less you have, the less likely you are to be murdered for your worldly goods.

    A cell phone will do most of what you want. If you can, forget the laptop.

  39. It is just going to be stolen... by gatkinso · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...so why bother? If you must take an old P2 laptop that you can treat as disposable.

    Buy a bunch of Compact Flash cards and mail your pics home. Assuming they dont get your camera too.

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    1. Re:It is just going to be stolen... by antic · · Score: 1

      I agree. Take a laptop and you have to carry various cables and the like, plus worry about it getting stolen. And good luck getting regular, reliable connections at a remotely affordable price too. Download photos to an iPod/similar and then burn DVDs to post in net cafés. Take notes/blog via a recorder (MD or iPod with mic), in cafes or using paper/pen.

      Easier and lighter to carry. Less to worry about.

      You have these fanciful plans about working and writing or whatever, but just lighten the burden and you'll have a much better time. Trust me - been there and regretted taking so much stuff.

      --
      'Thats they exact same thing a banana wrench monkey.'
  40. casting my vote by insanechemist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Macbook (not pro). tough plastic shell - reasonably rugged framework. Ours has survived our 2yr old trying to torque on the screen and mashing the keys for over a year now. As a backup the Lenovo thinkpads - nice construction.

    1. Re:casting my vote by paulthomas · · Score: 1

      The unfortunate thing about the MB compared to the MBP is that there is no option for a matte screen, you can only get glossy. My suspicion, from personal experience and the experience of friends is that the matte screen is more durable and degrades more gracefully (discoloration, not shattering).

  41. Panasonic Toughbook? by ke5aux · · Score: 1
  42. Itronix by MyNymWasTaken · · Score: 1

    Your choice is a small form factor or a DVD R/W media bay.

    MR-1
    4.5"x6.1"x 1.4", weighs 2 lbs
    There isn't even form factor space for a media bay, but it does come with a 40 GB hard drive; 80 GB HD or 32 GB SSD optional.

    XR-1
    Media Bay: DVD-RW/CD-RW

    Cost?
    MR-1: starting at $4,295
    XR-1: starting at $3,908

    A laptop of any variety will be a non-trivial theft risk in the situation you're describing. It's your choice to get a cheap, throw-away item that you have to try to replace mid-way through the trip, at questionable cost, or an expensive, reliable item that might actually survive the trip intact.

    Hopefully, you aren't taking the same "replace it in the field" mindset with the rest of your gear.

  43. DVD region locking by alext · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Be warned that while the menace of DVD region locking can be defeated for many drives, Matshita have gone out of their way to enforce it. These are unfortunately pretty common (e.g. in Sony SZs) so help reeducate this brand by avoiding.

    1. Re:DVD region locking by corsec67 · · Score: 1

      Huh?
      DVD region locking only matters with CSS, which is only found on DVD movies, and has nothing to do with a DVD-r, or any kind of burned disc.

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    2. Re:DVD region locking by alext · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      And your point is...?

    3. Re:DVD region locking by corsec67 · · Score: 1

      The original article didn't mention movies at all, so your mention of DVD region coding is a bit odd, since you didn't specify that region locks only are a problem with DVD Movies.

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    4. Re:DVD region locking by alext · · Score: 1

      And it didn't mention email either, so we can be sure this person and all other people looking for tips in this article have no need for it.

      Anything else you'd like to chip in with?

    5. Re:DVD region locking by corsec67 · · Score: 1

      You are right, sorry. I should be more polite.

      Pointing out that it might be very difficult to buy a DVD while traveling and having it play is definitely useful, since Region 1 only covers US and Canada.

      A good question is whether the region coding check on Panasonic/Matsushita drives occur when the disc is mounted, or can a software dvd player with DeCSS play the DVD correctly?

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    6. Re:DVD region locking by alext · · Score: 1

      Well that's gracious, thanks!

      The drive checks the region on insertion, as many do, but also prohibits the kind of random access to the disk that programs such as DVD Anywhere use to circumvent the lock for normal sequential access. And nobody has managed to fix the firmware since that is extravagently protected too.

      There's a consumer goods law in the UK concerning accurate descriptions - would be nice to try holding Sony and any others who advertise "world ready" laptops to it!

  44. power connections vary by sneakyimp · · Score: 1

    US household current is 120 Volts AC with a period of 60Hz. Voltages worldwide vary and can be as high as 240V AC varying at 50hz. Most laptop power supplies these days have a 2-part cord. The transformer box (the heavy box in your laptop cord) connects to the laptop itself with some connector specific to the manufacturer. The transformer connect to the wall with the same kind of power connector a desktop pc uses. I'm not certain, but I think you can just swap out the cord that connects to the wall and many transformers should handle the varying voltages and frequencies you might encounter (look for AC 100-240V 50/60hz on the transformer box's label).

    The trick then would be to get a cord for the many different wall outlets you might run into.

    As for weight/ruggedness, I don't really know. My guess is that solid-state storage is lighter and more rugged than hard drives, but quite a bit more expensive.

    Also, I'm not entirely certain, but I've heard stories about laptops you can power with a hand crank - although i doubt they can burn DVDs.

    1. Re:power connections vary by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      In desperation, pack a handful of wirenuts. Then buy a power cord wherever you are, cut it off and the spare cord for your power supply (the other is back home, admittedly), and splice it up. You can probably even buy a crap ANYTHING with a power cord and scrifice the gizmo. Or sell it back to the shop you got it a for 50%, and let them put the cord back on and sell it again. Of course, you may find blank cords with std connectors on the end, but...

      Desperation. The mother of many hacks.

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    2. Re:power connections vary by sneakyimp · · Score: 1

      If the voltate is 240V then BE VERY VERY CAREFUL. It hurts like a motherfucker to get shocked by that stuff.

  45. Any cheap laptop will do. by Edward+Teach · · Score: 1

    All you need is a couple of bootable pen drives with Kubuntu on them and any cheap laptop that will boot off of a pen drive will work. Get more pen drives to send your stuff home and you are golden.

    No worries about an English language OS, you are carrying it with you.
    No worries about DVD, they would probably be broken before they made it home anyway (Netflix anyone?).
    No worries about backups, if you have a couple of the pen drives with the OS on them in separate locations.
    If you lose the laptop along the way, you can probably boot your OS in any coffee shop.

    Look at the Everex laptops. Not rugged, but pretty cheap. Guess that goes hand-in-hand.

    One more thing...can I go?

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  46. Have you considered... by netruner · · Score: 1

    If this is simply to offload pictures/video to media and send it home (presumably for safe(r) keeping), have you considered getting several data cards for your camera and mailing them back as they fill up? Even a cheap laptop is going to be expensive, heavy, require power for charging and in general be a major liability. I don't know what media your camera uses, but I saw on Pricewatch that someone was selling $11 2Gb SD cards. Buy about 100 of those and you'll have a lot less to carry. Think of what a laptop weighs and then think of what a spindle of DVDs weighs - then consider the cost.

    Having said that, I would recommend getting the smaller cards and mailing more often to reduce the chance that your Pulitzer Prize winning picture is on the card that will inevitably get lost in the mail (despite our complaints about our mail system, there are many worse ones out there).

    If you're wanting some kind of device to tap into some wifi, there are many devices that can do that and not have the footprint of a full laptop.

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  47. My personal prefrence by scuffs · · Score: 1

    Instead of going for ruged just go small and light. The Dell m1330 or the sony tz150n, then get a small rugidized case for it to fit into. Theft will be a serious issue and with its small size and light weight you will be able to keep it with you at all times. They are not very rugged but with a nice tough aluminum case to fit them in you wont have to worry about that much. They have great battery life and the sony has a built in sd card reader (I liked the idea of sending home sd cards, buy a dozen 1gig cards on ebay for $5 each and reuse them next time.) Keeping it in a case will keep most of the dust off it, keep it from getting broken. If it was me I would go this route just for the weight savings. Finding a good case to keep it in will be a pain. Keeping it powered up will probably be hard, but the longer lasting battery should make up for some of that.

  48. Maybe a better solution... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Rather than DVDs, use memory cards. Yes, they're more expensive but they're a LOT more convenient and you can carry 128 GB of cards in the same space as a single DVD. Easier to mail in an envelope, too...

    For the computer, I'm going to recommend something different...;) Go for a PDA with a bluetooth roll-up keyboard. You'll get a LOT better battery life, something infinitely more portable (and concealable), and exceptionally rugged - they're built to take a lot more abuse.

    Additionally, if you get one of the HTC units (or other Windows SmartPhones) you can write your journal entries in Word, and with the addition of a local SIM card have a cell phone as well. Plus never be without a really handy albeit low resolution video camera.

    just a different option to consider!

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    Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
    1. Re:Maybe a better solution... by jonsmirl · · Score: 1

      Nokia N800 or N810 is a very good solution. I have about 10 SD cards. I fill the SD cards with movies before I leave. You can put 3-4 on a 2GB card by using the tool that cuts them down to the right size for the device screen. I watch movies on the plane ride and delete them. Then fill the cards up with photos while on the trip. Make sure camera takes same SD card as Nokia. Don't mail anything home. Just drop by an Internet cafe and copy the cards onto your web server.

      If you're rich (or someone else is paying) N800/N810 can connect to cellphone as a Bluetooth modem. This option is about a hundred times as expensive as the Internet cafe.

    2. Re:Maybe a better solution... by katman4 · · Score: 1

      I did comment before, don't know where that went, but i was suggesting you don't take any DVD's or memory cards or use snail-mail, but instead use remote connections from the laptop to your home computer. Webex and Logmein offer 30 day trial for great programs that also allow file transfer. This is limited to your internet connection but you can do it more often like this. Just install the software at home and tell the family to leave the computer on. i do this from various computers and it's great.

    3. Re:Maybe a better solution... by kirbyb · · Score: 1

      Great idea! You can bring 2 or 3 HTC flip-phones (GSM quad-band 3125) and a portable keyboard (bluetooth stowaway), and a handful of 2GB micro-SD cards. The 3125 battery will last 3 days or so, extra batteries are light, take 10.

    4. Re:Maybe a better solution... by gatzke · · Score: 1

      Good idea! I have a Treo 700p that has a SD card in it. You can get days on a battery if you aren't on the phone, and battery replacement is quick and easy. Edit Word,PPT, Excel as well.

      Wireless stereo bluetooth for mp3s, and TCMP will play ripped DVDs from your SD card.

      I have dropped mine and it works. I did break a screen on my 650...

    5. Re:Maybe a better solution... by gatzke · · Score: 1


      And Sam's sells 4 pack 1 GB SD cards for $40.

      DVDs are cheaper, but SDs are easier and smaller...

  49. Time by CrazyTalk · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The real WTF (tm) is that you can afford to take that much time away from work!

  50. rugged laptops by FreeBSD+evangelist · · Score: 1

    Sounds like you want to try to get your hands on the One Laptop Per Child XO. It is extremely rugged (drop able) sealed against dust and dirt, waterproof (but not submersible), light, low power, solid state drive and memory card slot (for those saved pictures). Also mesh wireless, camera, stereo speakers.

    There are some on eBay for way more than they sold for, but...

  51. MacBook by GreatDrok · · Score: 1

    Most robust machine I have ever owned apart from the ancient Toshiba with a P75 CPU is my iBook. I've lugged it around the world (to NZ twice now from the UK) and it has held up very nicely. Would hope the current MacBook would survive to the same degree as the materials are similar. Polycarb case gets scratched but otherwise very tough, keyboard takes a pounding and overall it has done me proud now for over four years. Compare that to less than a year for any of the PC laptops I bought before their cases had chunks missing, keys falling off and backlight, battery and power supply failure.

    Sure, you could buy a toughbook or something for big money but for a regular off-the-shelf laptop, the MacBook should do you fine. Get a decent semi-hard case for it and slap it in your backpack.

    --
    "I have the attention span of a strobe lit goldfish, please get to the point quickly!"
  52. LG has nice small laptops by matsh · · Score: 1

    I own a LG LW25, core 2 duo machine. Works great with Ubuntu. New models are the E200. Pink, if you're man enough for that. Nice keyboard. Not the fastest machine around, but pretty tough. I've carried mine back and forth to work every day in my backpack for over a year, just with a neoprene soft shell around. No damages. I use it about 10 hours a day. They weigh in at 1.9 kilos, a wee bit over 4 pounds.

  53. PITA?!?! by iknownuttin · · Score: 1
    A laptop is not worth the PITA factor....Moleskine

    Moleskin ? I won't kill any helpless little mole for a notebook!

    P.I.T.A = Pound In The Ass? For a notebook?!? Dude, where did you travel?!?

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    I prefer Flambe as apposed flamebait.
  54. an old one by marxzed · · Score: 1

    pen + paper and internet cafes....

    however if you insist on a laptop then I'd suggest you get a used Apple iBook... sadly not so light but pretty damn tough with their Lucite shell. If it's not already scratched up then tat it up some with some stickers and/or spray paint... make it less appealing to thieves.

    get something Sealine Urban bag or get a sealine or equivalent roll top water proof bag that will either fit as a sleeve for the laptop (and just allow the laptop bag getting wet) or one that will fit the whole laptop gag in (though makes it harder to tote.

  55. Also: LCD displays freeze and break. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Informative

    You will want to use a solid state disk when you are at Everest base camp.. Also: You will need a laptop rated for the low ambient temperature. Ordinary LCD displays freeze and break as a result of ice expansion.
    --
    Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
  56. Chance of being stolen? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

    I'd say the chance of at least an attempted theft is 100%.

    --
    The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
    1. Re:Chance of being stolen? by Quinthar · · Score: 1

      You're wrong. Things get stolen only when you leave them out of site/mind for too long. If it's on you at all times, nobody messes with you, and mugging is extremely rare. The world is not as unsafe or difficult as you might think.

    2. Re:Chance of being stolen? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      I see you're a glass-half-full sort of guy. Well, apparently you've never been to Nigeria, say, and many places in the U.S. are worse ... try carrying that laptop on the South Side of Chicago and I guarantee you'll be relieved of it in short order. Maybe your life as well. So yes, the world can be just about that bad, the trick is in knowing the locale (by doing your research first) and avoiding the worst spots.

      --
      The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
    3. Re:Chance of being stolen? by Quinthar · · Score: 1

      True, I don't spend much time in Chicago. I've spent a fair amount of time in India, Egypt, South Africa, South America, Cambodia, Malaysia, and lots and lots of other places, but I agree that most places overseas aren't as dangerous as US inner cities. It sounds like you have first hand with Nigeria and can attest to it being bad?

    4. Re:Chance of being stolen? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Not me ... but my girlfriend was born there. She goes back every few years to visit her family, and I hear a lot about what it's like over there. It would be an interesting place to visit but I don't think I'd want to live there. It was a fairly decent place once upon a time, but after a succession of massively corrupt governments it had gone way downhill.

      --
      The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
  57. Don't use DVD, use flash cards. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of mailing home DVD's, mail home CF or other flash cards - a lot more portable, often roomier, and less fragile. A little more costly, perhaps, but worth it. Not having a DVD burner will save you a lot of space - and even if the laptop doesn't have a builtin reader, a USB reader is light and robust.

  58. An older ThinkPad from the X Series by wehe · · Score: 1

    I suggest to take an older and therefore cheaper ThinkPad from the X series, e.g. X31 or X41 models. They are build very strongly. Though in case they get broken, the manufacturer itself provides free hardware maintenance manuals online, there are many other free repair and upgrade guides for ThinkPad laptops as well. The manufacturer Lenovo/IBM has offices all around the world. If you can effort a newer model you can even get a three years warranty for many parts of the world. Instead of replacing the internal hard disk drive with a solid state disk I recommend to put all the data on an external USB thumbdrive. This way the data can be savely stored away from the laptop. You should consider to encrypt the data on the USB drive as well as on the hard drive. ThinkPads even offer a BIOS option to achieve encryption. If you can't live without a DVD drive you need an additional external DVD drive, because the X series doesn't feature an internal DVD drive.

  59. AlphaSmart for writing ... by RedDirt · · Score: 1

    Why not give an AlphaSmart a try for your writing? Runs PalmOS (though the wide-screen aspect ratio will royally confuse apps that make poor assumptions about resolution) and lasts darn near forever on 3x AAA alkalines. I don't work for the makers, but I do know several professional writers who love the little machines.

    Sadly, this won't help you with your photo conundrum, but you might consider one of those hard-drive based photo wallets (perhaps something like this) and visit an internet cafe periodically to replicate to a server.

    --
    James
  60. how about... by nomadic · · Score: 1

    ...you bring a pad of paper and a polaroid camera?

  61. Camp Fires by MrSteveSD · · Score: 1

    In a survival situation you may well need a quick camp-fire, so a Dell Laptop would make perfect sense :)

  62. macbook by rasputin465 · · Score: 1

    I would get a plain MacBook. They're small, have a really durable casing, good battery life, dvd burner (unlike the macbook air), built-in camera and microphone so you can post videos (if you're into video blogging), or call home via skype.

  63. WiFi, Solid state, liquid crystal by tlambert · · Score: 1

    WiFi, Solid state, liquid crystal

    The Everest base camps have WiFi; 802.11b, to be specific, so anything that can do 802.11b should be OK.

    At that altitude, or anywhere else about 3000m (10,000 ft), you will want something that has solid state storage.

    But that's probably not worth worrying about, since cheap liquid crystal typically freezes at about -10C (14F), and the best at about-40C (-40F). It also stops phase-changing at about 80C (176F), so you probably don't have to worry about the deserts.

    -- Terry

  64. Sony TR3AP by Quinthar · · Score: 1

    I've travelled around the world and back again (http://360togo.com, http://swooshcompound.com/ and the Sony TR3AP is the best option. Make sure you have:

    1) Small physical dimensions. Something like a 10" screen. (I really miss my C1MV). It's big enough to get real work done, but no so big that you stand out like a sore thumb. This seems silly, but if you're going the places you say you're going, you'll feel very self conscious about flashing something worth more than their annual salary around.
    2) Awesome battery life. I carry two extra-size TR3AP batteries at all time, so I have 10-12 hours of battery life. I hear the new TZ series is even better.
    3) Ethernet port. Wifi is rare, and more often than not you'll end up going to an internet cafe, unplugging one of their computers, and plugging the wire into yours. Bring your own ethernet cable.
    4) Connectors for your camera. I have a Sony camera so the memory stick reader is built right in. Otherwise USB works in a bind.

    The TR3AP has all these. They're available on eBay for $600-800. Extra batteries are like $100. It has a built-in webcam for Skype. It's a fantastic computer for anything you need to do, up to and including software development. (Not games, sorry.) I bought mine new years and years ago, and it only now just broke. I just bought a new one off of eBay; the only complaint I have is Ubuntu 7.10 doesn't support hibernate/suspend out of the box on it. But between breaking my old one and buying this new (used) one I was using a MacBook, and I can't wait to get back to the smaller form factor.

    Don't worry about ruggadized components; laptops are really sturdy. Just keep it on you at *all times*. like, literally. In showers. In clubs. In the bathroom. At all times. If your laptop is too big you will get lax, and then it'll get stolen.

    Also don't worry about a modem port. You'll never use it. International phone jacks are even less standardized than electricity.

    Don't worry about voltage converters. Don't get the stupid "world traveller plug adapter kit". Just pick up a plug adapter at 7-11 when you land in a new country and you'll be fine. Pretty much any laptop's AC adapter supports all relevant voltages.

    Don't get a laptop case. It's just bulk you don't need.

    That's my advice, good luck and have fun!

    -david

  65. Dust = death by cpct0 · · Score: 1

    Old deserts like Namibia are evil, very evil. At that point, it's not sand, it's dust. If you ever tried to take a picture with a camera there, you probably know the evilness of these places. A small jolt of sand in these, and you can kiss your precious camera goodbye. Same for laptops, times 10.

    Personally, I would go with semi ruggerized / fully ruggerized, like some old ToughBook. Look them up in EBay, you can get them for maybe $500. They look so bulky no one will want to steal that. The other possibility is to keep any laptop in some airtight compartment, and only open that compartment behind closed doors, which is not a bad idea anyways.

    Simply put, a laptop bag, two garbage bags and some loose tape works wonders, and will allow you to keep your precious laptop safe. For high altitude, look up for a fully ruggerized ToughBook, or switch your hard drive.

  66. Try Dell's ATG models by _Hellfire_ · · Score: 1

    Dell's All Terrain Grade models are MILSPECed against harsh environments. Personally I've never used the ATG stuff, but I do own a non-hardened Dell D630 as my main machine and couldn't be happier. It's light, portable, powerful and runs Ubuntu fine.

    I would imagine the ATGs would be slightly heavier, but if I were looking for a tough laptop with all the trimmings (including DVD burner), I'd check out the D630ATG.

    --
    "And then I visited Wikipedia ...and the next 8 hours are a blur..."
  67. Insurance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you must bring the laptop, phone your home insurance company and get a rider for your electronics. I have $3000 of gear I usually carry or have in my car. Its all insured for $150 a year (including accidental damage)

  68. Namibia is very harsh by jonsmirl · · Score: 1

    Don't take electronics like a laptop into the Namibian desert. The sand there is some of the finest in the world since it is so old. So far I've lost two film cameras and one digital one to Namibian dust. Some people are having better luck keeping their equipment in a sealed, dust proof case and only removing it at night in a calm setting. The dust there is so fine it is almost invisible. It gets into everything. Have some fun, go up to the Kunene River and sneak into Angola for a day. Or stalk the desert rhino on foot if you can find one.

  69. Online backup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better yet, subscribe to online server space and upload your photos/Great American Novel notes while you're in places with good internet service. You can get several GB of storage for a few bucks a month, and there's almost no risk of damage short of a freak fire at the datacenter. There's even services specializing just in online storage and backup, as opposed to webhosting. You also won't be as tempted to delay sending off your photos/files to maximize the utilization of each DVD or an expensive memory card. You can backup any time you have a connection.

  70. I travel around the world with my macbook pro by huxrules · · Score: 1

    And the only way I keep it alive is that I put it in a Pelican Case 1495. The hummer of laptop cases if you will. Its super heavy and will one day fall out of a overhead bin and crush some grandma's skull. I work offshore so the idea that its waterproof appeals to me. However for lightness Pelican also sells a smaller waterproof case. I dont have the model number but its new. It doesn't have the large latches on the sides so its not as rugged as a normal pelican case. I would just get a small laptop (macbook) and put it in there. Just try to protect as much as possible when moving- a pelican case will do exactly that.

  71. Missing the obvious? by captinkid · · Score: 1

    Get an OLPC, they are cheap, rugged, and can be powered by a large variety of power sources. As a plus no one is likely to steal it. Get a USB card reader and send memory cards home. Matt

  72. You probably don't need a laptop by AaronPSU777 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have many friends that have done extensive traveling in third world countries and have done some myself and neither I, nor no one that I know, has taken a laptop with them. It sounds great in theory but the reality is that it's simply more trouble than it's worth. I realize that this is slashdot and it's a unique demographic so if you HAVE to take one I would look for a very rugged ultraportable or umpc. Also a solid state drive would be a requirement for the high altitudes at everest.

    But again, take some time to see if you can really justify the need for a laptop. If you are going to be sending daily blog updates maybe then you need one, if you are going to be taking LOTS of pictures, then maybe you could justify it. But for probably 99% of travelers, even slashdoters, you don't need one. You just have to get over that first hump of accepting life without a computer at your fingertips 24/7.

    Take a notebook to write in, they're better than computers anyway. You don't need any power, plus you you can draw pictures and diagrams. When you can get to an internet cafe transcribe it. If you're worried about losing it make photocopies when you can and mail them home. 4 gb memory cards are going for 17 bucks on newegg. Assuming 2 mb per picture 2 of those cards could hold 4000 pictures, which would come out to an average of 22 pictures a day. Buy some storage space on picasa and upload pictures from there when you have a chance. If there are any documents you need access too just carry a memory stick, or email them to yourself so you can get to them from any internet cafe, or upload them to google web apps.

    If you're carrying a laptop you're going to have to constantly baby it, especially if you're living out of a backpack. What happens when you drop your pack? What happens when your pack gets wet. What happens when you're on a bus with a bunch of locals, are you going to want to pull it out and risk it getting stolen? My advice is to simply cut the cord. When you're traveling like that it's much better to enjoy the experience than to be hunched over a keyboard half the day every day.

    1. Re:You probably don't need a laptop by subitophoto · · Score: 2, Informative

      I support the idea 100%. In fact I have done the exact same thing, NO LAPTOP. Internet access in these places are really easy to find, it is like Coca-Cola and cigarettes. Plus it is super cheap (.25cents/hr. to 2$/hr.). I traveled for 10 months across central and south america taking picture. These internet café will often offer you DVD or CDRW burner (again cheap). Google web apps are the perfect tools for a laptopless trip. If you have time, take a look at my pictures: http://www.subitophoto.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1357 Enjoy! Claude Still thinking about a signature...

    2. Re:You probably don't need a laptop by russellg99 · · Score: 1

      I was going to post the same suggestion, but someone else beat me to it. I've done several RTW trips, each for several months, through many different 3rd world countries, and have never taken a laptop. The last time I did one, in 2005, I posted entries to a blog every couple of days with the latest pictures, stories, etc., so I was definitely trying to figure out the same problem you are. In the end, I decided that worrying about the laptop itself, plus the batteries, charging system, cables, the weight of it all, the idea of it being stolen, etc. was just not worth it. One main problem is that you'll eventually need to go to an internet cafe to get online, and if that's the case, you might as well just use their computers instead. You might be surprised how prevalent internet access is these days. On my trip in 2005, I did Japan, then the Trans-Siberian railway from Beijing to Moscow, and then a bit around Europe as well. Of all the countries, the best internet access was in Ulaan Baatar, Mongolia, where they had clean rooms, good working computers, high speed internet access, and all for the low price of one US dollar per hour! Try to get that in any 1st world country. :-)

      Of course, that leaves the problem of what to do with your pictures. One simple idea is to use the internet cafe again. I found that most of them had the ability to let you transfer your images to the computer and then burn them to DVD -- they'd even sell you a blank DVD if you wanted.

      But what I did was take a little audio/video player with a good sized hard drive on it. I chose one of the smaller Archos media players for this task, and it worked out great. They have newer models now, but the basic idea is to get one that has the ability to transfer pictures from your camera to the hard drive. The one I found actually came with a CompactFlash port on it, so I could pull the card out of the camera and plug it directly into the drive, and then copy everything across in a couple of minutes. This served as an excellent backup method, and even saved me once when the camera was stolen, but the drive was safe back in the hotel room. If you transfer the pictures each night, you always have them in two places, and then when you get to the next internet cafe, you can burn them to DVD or maybe even upload them to a web server if the upload speed is good enough. BTW, I initially thought I'd use the photo viewer on the Archos player more than I actually did -- it turned out to be way too slow at displaying the huge multi-megapixel images cameras are capable of today, but maybe they've improved that by now. The video playback actually turned out to be pretty fun though. But you might even be able to get by with a simpler device that was more of a compact portable hard drive with no audio or video playback, as long as it had some kind of interface for copying files back and forth, and maybe creating directories, deleting files, etc.

      I found that if I took a USB cable, I could transfer the pictures and a lightweight editor program to the computer, resize some of them, and post them up to the blog along with my comments. I probably used dozens of different cafes and never had a problem.

      Anyway, good luck on the trip!

      Russell

    3. Re:You probably don't need a laptop by erice · · Score: 1

      I've traveled with conventional (heavy) laptop and with none. There are significant downsides to both approaches.

      Laptops are indeed heavy, bulky, fragile, and theft prone. But...

      Internet cafes in the third world do not have the bandwidth to backup your images. They frequently lack the ports and they almost always lack the software. They are frequently not handy, not available, or not working when you want to write. *Everything* is subject to loss/theft. How do you propose to backup that paper notebook? When do you propose to transcribe months of chicken scratch into electronic form?

      An EEEpc is about the right balance if you are already committed to carrying real camera gear. A weather sealed DSLR is nearly $1000. The lenses are more fragile then the EEEpc.

      If all you are carrying is a simple point and shoot, then the jury is still out.

      On the subject of preserving images, I am surprised that everyone seems to want to put all their eggs in one basket: bad idea. If traveling long term, backup your images periodically and mail the backup home. If the backup is lost in the mail, you still have the original in your pack. If you pack is stolen or the media is damaged, you still have the backups. It's getting to the point where the cost of flash to mail home is not a big deal. Still, if you find yourself some place where you can burn a DVD, go for it!

    4. Re:You probably don't need a laptop by AaronPSU777 · · Score: 1

      I haven't had problems finding computers at cafes that have usb ports. That's all you need to backup your pictures to a flash drive or another memory card. You can then mail one or the other home if you aren't able to upload the pictures. A notebook is actually fairly easy to "backup". Like I said you can just photocopy it and mail the copy home. Another option which actually works very well is to simply use your digital camera to photograph the pages. Trust me, it's completely legible.

      Everything you're mentioning about backing things up still applies to a laptop. If you're using a laptop to backup your pictures what happens when it gets lost, stolen or damaged? This is a very common occurence when traveling. If you're already mailing memory cards or dvds home with all your stuff anyway then I don't really see the need for a computer to begin with. Like I said, if you're a professional photographer/journalist or someone else who really does require a computer every day to get your stuff done then by all means go for it. For 99% of the people out there that is just not the case and the hassle of dealing with one is not worth it.

    5. Re:You probably don't need a laptop by erice · · Score: 1

      Thailand is not the world. I traveled Honduras over Christmas time. Internet in Honduras in 2007 was significantly more primitive than Internet in Thailand in 2003. Old, old, machines. Bad internet links.

      Backing up images is a bit tricky when you have no laptop and the internet cafe's have no card readers. It's trivial if you have a properly equipped laptop. You don't keep the backup on your laptop. That would be stupid. You mail it home. My travelogs get emailed to multiple people. No chance that they get lost.

      For me, personally, hand writing the travelog is a non-starter. My hand writing can not keep pace with my thoughts and it is doubtful I could read the result if I tried. Even typing is a challenge, but at least there is a fighting chance that results will reach the page and be decipherable.

      I've already stated that if you not carrying much in the way of camera gear, then the jury is still out. But don't equate serious camera gear with "professional". Lots of people carry SLR's with multiple lenses because they like to take good pictures and point and shoots just don't cut it. If writing and photography do not mean much to you when you travel then, by all means, leave the computer at home.

      What 99% of the people do is not important. What is important is choosing the right tools for what *you* do.

  73. DELL ROADREADY LAPTOPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DELL's new vostro or latitude or inspiron lines are the best hands down best semi-rugged laptops around. http://www.dell.com/html/us/products/latitude/test.html shows how good they are.

  74. You may not need a laptop by lordofthemoose · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have actually spent the past year backpacking across Asia : China, Burma, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, India, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon.
    Prior to this, I did a "test trip" and went to Bolivia and Peru. While I did initially consider bringing a laptop with me, my test trip told me that a notepad, internet cafes to burn DVDs and the local post office were more than enough. In particular, the notepad has an extra advantage, which is that you can stick things in it, from bus tickets to flowers, next to your impressions of the day. Believe me, it's those little details that you're going to remember.

    As to the picture problem, I had one of these 2.5" portable hard drive with a memory card slot, and it let me store as many pictures as I wanted until I could find an internet cafe (which can be very difficult to find, say, when you're in the middle of a week-long trek). It did work quite well in the salt desert in Bolivia, which happens to be rather high (4000m), and can be very cold (-10C or below). If in doubt, just bring a bunch of memory cards.

    Don't forget that there are internet cafes everywhere (the less developped the country, the more internet cafes, except in case of special political difficulties, like Burma), and yes, I did blog.

    1. Re:You may not need a laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second this comment. I drove from north of the Arctic circle to the tip of Argentina. I got along really well with a USB thumbdrive packed with portable apps (portableapps.com). It was very inconspicuous and it was a heck of a lot of fun hanging out in Internet cafe's. And by bringing your own thumbdrive, you can have mail/browser in your native language. Again, the less developed the country, the more likely you are to find an Internet cafe. I also carried a iPaq hx4700 (no longer made, too bad) for photo preview and simple cropping. Played with a little bluetooth keyboard for blogging - that was okay. Having said that, there were enough times that I had WiFi access (even in Patagonia!) that I could upload blog entries and photos suprisingly often.

      Don't carry a laptop - save that room/weight for gifts and pictures of home so that you can demonstrate to the world you aren't an "ugly American." If you are from a more "travel-saavy" country, then use the space for mementos of the trip. If you do carry one, consider it completely disposable. It will get stolen/wet/lost/stepped on by a (local four legged animal).

      Enjoy!

    2. Re:You may not need a laptop by pajeromanco · · Score: 1

      Nice trip! Just a question: when was it? Did you use the wifi hotspot in El Calafate?

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      Now I am sad.
    3. Re:You may not need a laptop by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Looking at you /. journal, this seems to be your first post since you're back. What's the blog address?

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      It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
    4. Re:You may not need a laptop by slart42 · · Score: 1

      I agree with the above. Also, you should consider that while you're likely to find Internet cafes in many remote places, opportunities for hooking up your own laptop, or even wireless are much rarer. I drove the Mongol Rally last summer (through eastern europe, russia, kazakhstan, uzbekistan, kyrgyztan and mongolia), and we took an old G3 Pismo powerbook with us for blogging. We quickly realized that it was mostly unnecessary weight, since we could never hook it up, and we didn't get much time to use it in the first place. In the end we broke it, when our car (a little east german Wartburg) got stuck and flooded when trying to cross a river in Mongolia.

      In case anyone wants to read about it or see the pictures: http://www.wartburg-tourists.de/

    5. Re:You may not need a laptop by AntrygRevok.net · · Score: 1

      What about just bringing a solid-state mp3-recorder, like iAudio/Cowon, or something?

      You can record more-than-text, you can capture inflexion, you can record others' speaking, you can record ambience, it's teensy, it takes little power, if you get a good one ( M-Audio / Edirol / Tascam / Zoom has scrambled time-chip, though ) with an extra-quality mic, you can do much-better quality recording ( that street-musician on the corner of Nowhere & Here: you can use your OLPC/EEE to make a CD for them later, too, if you've both recorder & basic machine+burner )

      The reason I'd prefer being-seen with the recorder is this: it's less a "thug-magnet" than a notebook.

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      Try also my gallery: http://photo.net/photos/AntrygRevo
    6. Re:You may not need a laptop by lordofthemoose · · Score: 1

      You'll find it here : http://beijingtobeirut.free.fr/ The first half of the blog is in French, the second half in both French and English. Yep, I come from the country of stinking cheese and sparkling wine :-)

    7. Re:You may not need a laptop by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      While French women are rumored to whine, I'm surprised to hear you speak so poorly of their foot hygiene.

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  75. No No No. Serously by Angostura · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Get an old SLR and take plenty of film with you. Mail back the rolls of film as you go. You'll still be able to get 35mm film no trouble all over the world.

    Buy yourself a nice little fat black hardback notebook with good quality paper and buy yourself a nice pen. Write in it at night around the camp fire and by candle light. Make sketches and stick things into it while you travel. Enjoy it as an artifact of your travel. Thumb through it and show it to the kids in 20 years time.

    1. Re:No No No. Serously by El_Oscuro · · Score: 1

      Yesterday, we were doing a bunch of draft slides using an erasable white board with a printer. We have been printing out our white board drawings for years. Yesterday, the printer decided to crap out in the middle of the session, and we needed these slides the day before yesterday. We couldn't wait for a new printer cartridge.

      All of us were lost for a few minutes as to what to do. Then I went to the supply closet, and after much effort, found an old school #2 pencil (the kind that you use a sharpener with), with an ACTUAL eraser.

      I got writers cramp drawing those slides, and used the eraser a lot, but it was kind of cool.

      I used to have a $100 Pentax that I could take practically any picture with. I once took perfect pictures inside the Maginot Line with no flash ( I set the shutter speed to about 1 second with the camera sitting on a table)

      Sometimes, old school is the best :)

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    2. Re:No No No. Serously by mypalmike · · Score: 1

      As far as nice pens go, a Fisher space pen (bullet style) is an ideal travel companion. It's tiny when folded up, and will write on greasy paper, upside down.

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  76. Buy a used subnotebook, use a bit of padding by kroyd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    On my travels I usually bring an old Fujitsu Biblo B2160 where I've replaced the internal drive with a 120gb disk, and a couple of backup hard drives (2.5" externals which run of usb power), one which I always keep in a "secret" compartment in my shoulder bag. The thinking behind this is that it doesn't really matter if I lose the notebook as long as I keep the pictures. Of course, if I was really worried I would probably bring a 20 pack of 9gb DVDs and burn copies of the pictures on those, then email them back. (You can pay to have your pictures written to DVD, or use an internet cafe somewhere)

    I've used that computer in 5000m+ altitudes (16000 feet and more) - not at any of the basecamps to Everest, but then you'll probably be so dead tired from the altitude that you won't think of it, besides, I wouldn't trust the generators in the tent villages you stay in. (Going Lhasa -> Kathmandu is a great trip btw)

    You should also look into having a zip lock bag of some kind for your notebook, that will keep the moisture out and might even keep the ants out if you go the rain forest.. I would also use a bit of padding around it, it doesn't have to be anything fancy, heavy bubble wrap and gaffer tape is good enough.

    A suitable notebook shouldn't cost more than a couple of hundred usd used, buy two or three extra hard drives, and stock up on memory cards for places without power - it should be a lot less expensive than a more high-tech solution. (Some hostels in remote Tibetan villages might lack easily accessible power, but power is more common than running water in such places)

    The only problem with cheap used computers is that they might not have usb2.0. That means emptying a 8gb memory card might take 2+ hours, even more if you take backups as you copy (you should do that). This has not been a problem for me, I just let it run overnight if necessary, but you might want to pay the extra money for usb2.0.

  77. Probably not... by eMartin · · Score: 1

    The keyboard is not likely to be a problem. All the asian language keyboards I've ever seen still have western characters on them in the common qwerty layout.

    See:

    http://www.casemouse.com/kb/mini/japanese-keyboard.jpg
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Thai_Keyboard_closeup.jpg/800px-Thai_Keyboard_closeup.jpg
    http://sternerson.com/images/new/china/day9/keyboard.jpg

    The worst case would be that a few keys might be in different places.

    And yes, it might be hard to find an English language OS in computer shops, but even that is common for normal use because in poorer countries, it is pretty easy to find english copies of windows in markets where they sell bootleg software and music.

  78. Well... by rindeee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...having carried a laptop around the world (literally) for 16 months, I can tell you that a Panasonic Toughbook is worth every penny. Granted, mine was for expeditionary military purposes, but it (along with numerous other laptops we had ranging from Mac Books, Think Pads, Dells, etc.) was probably no more or less abusive than what yours will see. Toughbook's are very expensive, but they're purpose built (get one with a touch screen...you'll thank yourself). If your purpose is met by that, then cough up the bucks. Also, for the record, the Dell's are junk (including the ruggedized version they've started producing). My two cents, but two cents based on experience.

  79. Think Toughbook, but be smart by usagibrian · · Score: 2, Informative

    Look for one of the older W line business toughbooks (W2 or W4). They ain't cheap, but Toughbooks aren't. There's an optical drive if you're bound and determined to use it, and an integrated SD slot if you want to save postage getting the back ups home. Alternately, have you considered a TRG Pro? It's a Palm III equivalent with a CF slot. Takes AAA batteries and there's a mini keyboard available for when you can sit down (screen keyboard when you can't). It won't do color or pictures, but you can enter text to your heart's content and save and ship backups easily. I wouldn't recommend playing volleyball with one, but I've found it to be very dependable and sturdy over the years.

  80. Sony vaio Tx series by duden · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was travelling around the world 2005-2006 and originally left the uk without a laptop thinking I'd use Internet caffe's to stay in touch with family etc. I quickly realised I spent too long time getting my camera connected, photo editing software installed, cd's burned etc so the time I arrived in Thailand I bought a lovely Sony vaio tx laptop at a bargain prize. It was a great travel campanion and lasted all the way around the planet. In it's sleeve it fitted in a small daypack so I could always bring it with me (when I didn't feet comfortable leaving it in the hostels). I was doing glacier climbing, liveaboard diving, 5 days inca trail walk/climb, downhill cycling in Bolivia etc... Always carying the laptop with me...and avoiding letting too many people see it when in transit.. I did treat it with care but i'm still amazed how well it lasted. I'd buy the same again today - highly reccomended! Enjoy your trip!

  81. Dont worry too much about Everest by luckytroll · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wouldn't worry too much about using the laptop on Base camp or above.

    I designed a wireless network and configured a number of HP rugged laptops and tablet PCs as part of the Egan/University research expedition a few years back. The idea was for the laptops to be used by the researchers and to relay data back to the universities. By the end of a couple days at base camp, everyone was mostly too oxygen-starved to use the machines to a degree that would have justified all the extra stuff. I think up there a simple digital camera with large capacity and simple controls is a good idea. And a pad of paper.

    For the record, we had HP rugged notebooks - and the heated hard disk units survived. I also had a backup USB drive loaded with PuppyLinux, but they never needed it, the drives survived the trip. Actually, the only major faults were cables being destroyed by Yaks or windstorms. Bring extra cables. A thuraya phone works well there too.

  82. Take Me! by evilninja · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll scribe!

  83. The best traveling laptop - no laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is no laptop.

    Seriously. Its probably about 10 lbs of extra crap you really, really don't need. Everywhere in the world, you can:

    - do email at an internet cafe
    - burn DVDs of photos at an internet cafe
    - watch movies / listen to music on an iPod
    - take notes on a pad of paper

    Every pound of extra crap you're carrying is another pound of stuff which:

    - you have to lug around
    - you will worry about being stolen
    - displaces the incredible souvenirs you'll find

    If you still think you absolutely need a PC: get a cheap PDA and portable keyboard. You can at least fit them in a pocket and won't be out as much cash when they get drowned / smashed / stolen. In all honesty though: even my PDA gets the short shift when I'm traveling, so I typically don't bother. Given where you're going, you might be best off with a GPS.

    Final words: spend the money on the trip. See or do ten things you otherwise wouldn't have done. You'll be way better off.

    ~ A fellow traveler

  84. What? by StarKruzr · · Score: 1

    Everything I've heard is that Macbooks are fairly well-built and more damage-resistant than MBPs, because they're made with plastic instead of dent-prone plastic.

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  85. Panasonic Toughbooks aren't too expensive by smitth1276 · · Score: 1
  86. Read the temp/humidity specs before you buy. by Babu+'God'+Hoover · · Score: 1

    I had to return a Fujitsu laptop because it would not work in my natural climate workshop in Georgia. On days over 96 degrees and 70% humdity, it would overheat and shut down. Replaced it with the P2120 transmeta based which is small and light and it was OK to 100 degrees with high humidity. In summer my workshop gets up to 108 some afternoons.

    Let us know what you end up with and how it works. Spouse and I are doing a 12 month trip, Pacific, Asia, India, trans siberian, ??? in 2010 and info will help us choose notebook.

  87. don't bother with the computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'd be amazed at the number of internet cafes in the world.

  88. I'll also recommend a used 12" iBook G4 by Burz · · Score: 1

    ...which are somewhat more rugged than the aluminum Powerbooks, being built on a magnesium frame encased in carbonate. They also cost less. When I pressed some Apple store staff about iBook vs Powerbook durability, they said it was

    I've taken my 1.2GHz model everywhere: plane trips, car trips, on the train over the past 4 years and nothing has gone wrong with it.

    1. Re:I'll also recommend a used 12" iBook G4 by Diagoras+of+Melos · · Score: 1

      The most vulnerable part of any laptop is the screen, and the screen on the iBook is inferior to and more fragile than that on the 12" PowerBook, which I am using at this moment to compose this entry. It's essentially my only computer (I connect it to a second monitor at home), and I am a contract network integration consultant.

      Also, iBook is heavier.

      But the earlier comments about altitude are operative in this case. While at Everest base camp, don't power up your PowerBook, ThinkPad, or any other device w/ a disk drive. Use your Treo or some other PDA and store the notes on an SD card until you're safely down. And don't plan on watching movies localized for non-US markets. There are strict limits on the number of times your DVD localization can be modified.

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    2. Re:I'll also recommend a used 12" iBook G4 by G-funk · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have to disagree, the iBooks are most definitely *less* strong than the powerbooks! There's a design flaw that causes the motherboard to eventually crack if it gets picked up too often with one hand. Apple knows about this, and sometimes the lower-level grunts will admit it when you're getting your motherboard replaced for the nth time, Apple even replaced my iBook with a MacBook after the third time it died.

      Why else do you think the MBP looks more or less like a 700mhz powerbook, ditto the Mac Pro, but the Macbook is an all new design? If you google around you'll see it's a design flaw and fairly well documented in various (non Apple-moderated) user forums.

      BTW I now have a 15" Santa Rosa MacBook Pro, and can't recommend it highly enough. It's solid as a rock, and thin and light for a laptop with this much power.

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    3. Re:I'll also recommend a used 12" iBook G4 by Burz · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not surprised a repair tech, when cornered with an unusually bad problem, will make noises implying the model in question is bad design... which is why you shouldn't take their word as sincere in that situation.

      I do know that Apple had many more problems with easily-dented aluminum causing motherboard problems on 15" Powerbooks. This repair survey does show both of the 12" models as among the most reliable.

    4. Re:I'll also recommend a used 12" iBook G4 by G-funk · · Score: 1

      I don't usually take the word of "lowly repair techs", but this fault *is* known, and there's a recall in a coupe of EU countries because of this particular fault.

      If you want old Power mac, go 12" G4 PB. Not iBook. Hell it's your money, but take my word for it.

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  89. Smartphone by LuminaireX · · Score: 1

    A laptop is probably not necessary - have you considered using a PDA or smartphone for your travels? Recently, I carried a T-Mobile Dash with me to New Zealand and went backpacking across the South Island. I use a blog capable of posting entries upon receipt of an email, so I setup a gmail account through the phone and updated my blog via email whenever I hopped on Wifi. That happened surprisingly little over the course of the excursion, so several days worth of emails would get sent out as soon as I found a hotspot to connect to. If you aren't keen on smartphones, a modern PDA will likely do the same with Wifi. The Dash, in particular, has a MicroSD slot that can be used to store large amounts of data (2GB is the most I've put in mine). In addition to taking photos with the Dash, MicroSD's usually come with an adapter to turn them into normal SD cards that can be used in many cameras and card readers. Take pictures with your Dash with the MicroSD, or using a camera with the MicroSD + Adapter. As others have said, it's probably a lot easier (and cheaper, and safer!) to mail SD cards back home than CD's; certainly MicroSD's are excellent in that regard. I used my Dash every day to write emails, take pictures, and communicate over SMS (and occasionally voice, which I tended to avoid at $2/minute). It handled it fine, provided I charged it nightly. The Dash's battery life sucks though, so you might have better luck with a comparable device. You might also consider using Internet cafes wherever possible to use the Internet - save the text on your phone/PDA to MicroSD, then copy it into your blog from the card once you connect to the cafe internet. It's a great way to avoid lengthy connection charges when you're sending in bursts anyway.

  90. Evilness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Definitely NOT the ASUS-F3J
    Bad....bad...memories.

  91. Insurance by xhentil-d · · Score: 0

    I just did five months in China and brought my Dell Latitude D620. It survived all my travels, the dust, and cold, the heat. One thing i made sure of, however, was before i left to have insurance. If i got it stolen, i'm screwed. My Latitude worked great (4.6 lbs), but regardless of what you do, get travelers insurance. I never had to use it, but that's the idea.

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  92. I also did this in 2001 by StarKruzr · · Score: 1

    What PITA factor? Honestly, where is this meme that laptops are "AN INCREDIBLE PAIN OMG" come from? You put them in a backpack and use them when you need them.

    I was fine with my 7 lb beast back in '01 and would be even more fine with something like an EeePC today.

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  93. go lowtech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    avoid the hassel and go lowtech -- no laptop. net cafes are everywhere. you'll save weight and volume and you'll save the worry of it breaking or getting stolen.

  94. Eeepc is da dope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    second that! the Eeepc is da dope. get yourself a 4g modle and upgrade. it gets stolen you'r out 299. also concider the fact that sending photos home as back up is overkill bring a few dirt cheep usb sticks or sd cards.
    been happy with mine and am posting this from a train station some where in lapland. oh most important buy the power adapter before you leave!!!! they are spendy out here.

  95. Re:Well LA DE DA! by Eth1csGrad1ent · · Score: 1

    heheh... was thinking exactly the same thing. Bugatti Veyron or Koenigsegg CCR... I can't decide. Cash aint a problem - I just want something that'll do the job. Which is more value for money ? Should I bite the bullet and just get BOTH ??

  96. Psion 5mx or Netbook? by Ambiguous+Puzuma · · Score: 1

    Both the 5mx and Netbook have been used successfully by mountaineers; the Netbook in particular was used by a Hungarian team while climbing Mount Everest. They have been out of production for years but it shouldn't be difficult to pick them up (probably used) for a small fraction of what a normal laptop would cost.
    http://www.psionteklogix.com/public.aspx?s=us&p=News&POid=367
    http://www.project-himalaya.com/news-00-shishapangma.html

    I have never used a Netbook, but was pleased with the 5mx that I used years ago (though not for world travel or mountain climbing or anything like that). It fit in my pocket, had a VERY comfortable keyboard for its size (I could type at roughly 2/3 of the speed that I type on a full-sized keyboard) and ran for a good 30 hours or so on a pair of AA batteries. It survived a number of short falls--about 3 feet onto hard surfaces--without any problems.

    Both use CompactFlash for removable storage, and can be used with a cell phone or modem for Internet access. The Netbook has a PCMCIA slot as well, which (with appropriate cards) adds Ethernet or wireless capabilities.
    http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showthread.php?p=321802

    The 5mx probably won't be of much help when it comes to creating backup copies of photos, but the Netbook might with appropriate accessories (either sending them over the Internet or mailing home CompactFlash cards).

    And yes, both will run Linux if you choose, though there are some limitiations.
    http://linux-7110.sourceforge.net/howtos/netbook_new/index.htm
    http://staff.washington.edu/dushaw/psion/openpsion/
    http://linux-7110.sourceforge.net/howtos/series5mx_new/index.htm

  97. two words by Swampash · · Score: 1

    Gameboy

  98. peli case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    peli (pelican) case + pretty much any laptop. Get an eee and a peli 1200, and it isnt going anywhere. Those cases can take some serious damage, plus you can also fit in a couple of external hard drives / cases of sd cards.

    oh, and grab a microcase or two for your camera :)

  99. Don't bring a laptop by Wise+Dragon · · Score: 1
    I can speak as someone fairly experienced as a world traveler here. In the last year I've been to the Philippines, Australia, Taiwan, and backpacked/motorcycled in the Dominican Republic. Your need to transfer photos home is best served by internet cafes. They are everywhere which has internet. Bring multiple flash cards for your camera, as many and as large a capacity as you can. Bring a usb reader for them. At a cafe upload them to flickr or something similar. If the network is too slow (often the case in crowded cafes), burn them to CD (nobody has dvd burners in the 3rd world), 2 copies. Mail one home and carry the other one. Write your thoughts on paper, xerox the pages in any settlement and mail them home, or if you must type, type in an internet cafe somewhere. These are truly everywhere in the 3rd world. This will run you from 50 cents an hour in the philippines up to $6 an hour in australia.

    In the dominican republic I actually lost my camera with my memory card still in it and lost all my photos. I had found an internet cafe the day before and was going to back up my photos but they did not have an SD reader, only USB. If I had a laptop, the extra 5lbs in my backpack would have made my trip much less enjoyable and I would have taken less risks carrying $1500 in gear instead of $300. If you do get a laptop, try to find one that will fit in a 1 gallon ziplock.

  100. Older Thinkpad or HP/Compaq NC4010 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've got an older nc4010 that has treated me well for world travel. It's 3.5 pounds and has stood up to serious abuse without developing any problems. I've hopped freight trains with it (think serious vibration, lots of banging around, and scorching hot metal in the Utah salt flats), sailed near-derelict boats across the Caribbean with it (think incredible humidity and constant moisture), run from the cops with it (I once fell off the back of a chain-link fence and landed square on my backpack with this laptop inside), and slept outside with it.

    Once, all my stuff got drenched in a rainstorm. The nc4010 didn't get the brunt of it, but still got pretty wet. I tried starting it, but it wouldn't power on. I waited 45 minutes until it had dried out, and it started fine.

  101. pocket equiptment? by logicpaw · · Score: 1

    I'd be tempted to look into cheap pocket-sized solutions. Maybe a Palm handheld, plus charger that can use AA cells; might not even need the folding keyboard, depending on how well you can use pen input (someone wrote a whole book this way). Bring two small card USB readers to use for duplicating SD cards at internet cafe's. No big, hard, laptop-sized bulge in your pack. And cheap enough that you can have a complete spare/duplicate set at home, pre-packaged to ship to you if your pack gets stolen.

  102. Cut the weight... by RecycledElectrons · · Score: 1

    An e-ink based ebook reader (e.g., Hanlin Jinke, Sony PRS-505, Irex Illiad, Cybook Gen3) will let you read for days on a battery charge that's the equivalent of a cell phone battery. (Add in a USB charger.)

    Drop the laptop in favor of a UMPC. 2lbs with 12 hours of battery life with one of the 6, 8, or 9 cell extended life batteries. Kohjinsha makes some incredible packages under 2 lbs. with DVD burners. Samsung's Q1 is available under $600, but has less power & storage. Add in a universal charger, or two, or three for it.

    For virtually unlimited storage, add in 2.5" 500GB HDDs, if customs doesn't object to your personal library of files. Rechargable Li-Ion or Li-Poly batteries are available to cut the drain on your UMPC for $35 each. They plug in in-line between the USB port and the HDD.

    Andy

  103. Thinkpads seem tough by zorkerz · · Score: 1

    In my experience thinkpads are some of the toughest laptops without paying lots extra for ones advertised as "rugged". The lenovo website has some interesting information on what they put their test machines through (though obviously this is not third party testing and must be taken with a grain of salt). Another thing to keep in mind is what kind of international warranty a company provides. If a company offers an international warranty and has a presence and/or good support setup in the countries you will be traveling through that would be one of the strongest pluses in my book.

  104. Fujitsu Lifebook u810 by Red+Storm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just returned from Uganda with mine and it was pretty good. The keyboard is a little on the small side and the processor isn't the most powerful but it worked well for me and the touchscreen was quite nice. It had an SD and CF slot which made importing pictures onto it for viewing quite nice. The biggest limitation was the lack of USB ports, it only has one. Overall I was quite impressed with the battery and the size/weight. I purchased the padded case from Fujitsu and it was a life saver, dropped it in a mud puddle, fortunately the puddle wasn't too deep, but the case now has a fresh layer of Ugandan mud. I've also dropped it from about 3' without the padded case onto concrete and it did ok, just a few new character marks. I lost the right arrow key, but I can still press it and it still works. I have no idea now what other two functions are on that key, but they weren't important as I didn't seem to miss them.

    The touchscreen was very nice to have. It made going through pictures easier and overall I found the Vista basic that came with it usable if you don't mind working a little slower. I would suggest getting a surge suppressor that works world wide. I found one at the airport that worked quite well and it provided USB power. Had I know about this device I would have brought my Plextor external DVD-RW.

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  105. Asus eee by Brandonski · · Score: 1

    I'd go with an asus eee. Cheap, disposable, uses solid state. Instead of DVDs, mail back 512MB/1GB usb thumb drives or SD or CF....whatever you want.

  106. Fujitsu by duffbeer703 · · Score: 1

    Fujitsu makes a series of ultra-portable notebooks with 6" screens, but they are full-featured laptops. They can get pricy, but the quality is top-notch, and service is available globally.

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  107. Hope this is in the right spot... by BruceSchaller · · Score: 1

    Take a notebook. no no...not a computer....a notebook. I have hiked over 2000 miles in the last year...if the total weight of what you're taking with you doesn't let you run...then you're doing something wrong.

  108. Paper, a pen, and plenty of memory cards by obarthelemy · · Score: 1

    for your photos/videos

    anything else is geekyness.

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  109. Vaio G1 if you have $$, or Blackberry by sshambar · · Score: 1

    I've been traveling for more than a year, and I bought a Vaio G1 because it uber-light (2lbs), long batt life (11hrs) and has dual layer DVD burner -- and it's made of carbon fiber so it's a tough cookie. It wasn't cheap though, cost me $2k in Kuala Lumpur.

    I found that I didn't need it most places though, since the rest of the world (non US) has internet cafes everywhere, and they usually have cd/dvd burners if you need them.

    I found the most useful toy was my Blackberry, esp. with the unlimited intl. data plan -- I could browse the web, send/recv emails and even IM everywhere I went (except Nepal and Cambodia though ... prob for your Everest plans). The new ones have cameras and wifi, so they're even better than my old and creaky 8700. But being able to lookup something on wikipedia on the beach on a remote island in the Philippines is just too cool :)

    1. Re:Vaio G1 if you have $$, or Blackberry by kenmtraveller · · Score: 1

      I also have a Vaio G1, which I backpacked around the world with last year. It's so light you can throw it in a daypack and forget it. It's tough, too. I took it through 17 countries, without a single problem. The case is all scratched up now, but it still works like a charm. In fact, I am writing this post on it, in Buenos Aires, Argentina. I also went around the world in 2001 with a Panasonic R1... I think it was part of the toughbook line. In any case, it survived the trip, but didn't survive the 4 foot fall onto my hardwood floor in San Francisco when I accidentally knocked it off the table one day after my return By the way, I don't see the point of taking a laptop all the way to Everest Base Camp. Just leave it in your hotel safe in Kathmandu. That's what I did.

  110. T60p by glowimperial · · Score: 1

    I've been using a T60p for about 8 months now, and the thing's a tank. I'm pretty sure it's available with a solid state hard drive now too. A bit overpowered for the traveler, but the perfect thing if you want to edit video or photos on the go, while equipped with a tank of a laptop with astounding battery time.

  111. N810 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I faced a similar problem when choosing a gadget for my walk across japan. In my case I would literally be carrying it the whole way. It needs to be easily powered and deal with camping for 6 months and very light.

    I chose Nokia's N810 which reads mini-SD cards and a case from OtterBox. I'll be taking all Mini-SDs for my camera and using the N810 to organise the images and email a few before sending cards home. For power I'm taking a Solio with a USB adapter, and a wall-socket to USB adapter so I can charge it indoors or outdoors as I may not get to a building for more than a week at a time. The Wifi in the N810 should be enough to keep in contact with the outside world, now I just need to find a scanner that'll let me know when I'm in a hotspot as I wander through residential zones.

  112. Pick a Date. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Soviet Russia, guys pick all three.

  113. Panasonic Toughbook by ZWithaPGGB · · Score: 1

    The people who REALLY MUST have their laptop work, like the US Special Forces, use these.

    You'll also want a travel charger/solar backpack like this.

  114. XO Laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One Laptop Per Child's XO Laptop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLPC_XO-1) is quite ideally suited for travel. I've played around with one and it's very tough, with a thick case, excellent wifi antennas, a closed sealed keyboard and a screen that can be used in bright sunlight. The thing was designed for rugged use by children and long battery life. An upcoming battery software update is promised to make the battery life even better as well.

    The default Sugar GUI is designed explicity for learning, and the built in software is as well, but folks have installed XFCE on it and Ubuntu as well, and that process should get easier in the future, seeing as the XO Laptop has only been available for a short time.

    The only problem is that the XO Laptop isn't for general sale. To have one at this point you'd either have to be a child in the 3rd world or you would have had to donate during the "Give 1 Get 1" sale earlier in November.

  115. compaq Evo N410c - $170 on ebay by victorvodka · · Score: 1

    It's a great compact notebook with a solid titanium body. It's a few years old now - but it's perfectly good for the things one does when traveling: web browsing, ftp, blog maintenance, picture editing, etc. Why buy a new laptop when this one isn't even a huge loss if it's stolen.

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  116. Linux is sexy? by mario_grgic · · Score: 1

    I'll agree with stable and secure, but sexy it is not.

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  117. Get one of these PDAs by Pasajero · · Score: 1

    They're sturdy and might help you better than a laptop.

    Motorola PDAs

  118. I agree & bring a towel by joggle · · Score: 1

    Or bring some thin foam large enough to cover your laptop screen. This can greatly help keep it from getting scratched up by placing the foam between the screen and keyboard when you stuff it in your bag. I know from personal experience that a single backpack trip with an unprotected laptop can leave nasty scratch marks that could have easily been prevented.

    Besides, as anyone knows, you can't go travelling around without a towel.

  119. alternative photo backup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I spent three weeks in Russia this past summer. I didn't bring a laptop. However I didn't need to write / blog.

    I used a self-contained memory card backup device with a small LCD to verify success. Because it was 3 weeks, I brought enough memory cards that I could both back them and not re-use them which gave me two copies of every thing.

    If I was going 6+ months to all the places you mention, I'd plot out where I could stop and find a could enough connection to transfer photos home over the net instead of shipping DVDs. Bring a Asus EEE , Thinkpad X40 or Macbook Air and backup the photos to that along the way if a separate photo backup device (and adapter / charger) is too much to carry. Don't erase the memory card until you've been able to ftp the photos from the laptop to an online service or your ISP account. Then keep the backup on the laptop as the second backup and reformat / re-use the memory card.

    The weight of a larger laptop with DVD burner built in is just too much for the trip you described in my opinion.

  120. PPC + keyboard by Yold · · Score: 1

    I'd just go with a ppc, or a palmtop + external keyboard (many have USB). They are cheap, use solid-state storage (a real issue if you are going to be in high altitudes), they are light, and run much longer on battery than many laptops, and actually fairly tolerable to squint at and write for about an hour.

  121. Only a few choices by NMerriam · · Score: 1

    I've done all of the locations you're talking about (though I wonder if you're really going to EBC 2 -- I assume you just mean regular base camp at Everest, since climbing through the icefall isn't the kind of thing you just show up and do, and camp 2 is above the icefall). For all the hyperbole about stuff failing at high altitudes, in several years and dozens of off the shelf computers which have spend months up there, we haven't really had any hard drive or LCD issues on Everest. The big problem is actually dust, which you'll get everywhere in the third world.

    That said, I wouldn't go on such a long trip without a Thinkpad or a Toughbook (maybe a Macbook/Pro/Air).

    Screw burning DVDs, you'll lose half of them to theft or damage, and the drive increases the size/weight of the computer. Buy flash media -- miniSD is the smallest that isn't crazy expensive -- and store everything on there. You can fit a dozen miniSD cards in the coin pocket of a pair of jeans and have a 100 gigs of storage in a place nobody will look. The big thing there is that if they get wet or dusty it doesn't do anything to the data, nobody will pickpocket them, you can carry them on the plane, etc. It's not cheap, but spending 60 years regretting losing the pictures is even worse. You can also easily buy more in normal stopovers like Singapore if you need, and mail home the older ones from there in a standard fedex envelope.

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  122. Re:Small, cheap and light: EeePC - Go lighter! by capaslash · · Score: 1

    I went on a two-month trip across Ireland and Germany. Everything I brought fit into one small Jansport backpack (the kind a grade school or high school student might carry) and a Domke F3x camera bag. I had my Nikon DSLR and two lenses along with some other items in the Domke bag, with all my clothing and towel and bathroom kit in the Jansport. I never had to check my luggage on the airlines this way. I did not bring a laptop, but getting on the 'net was easy cuz there's so many internet cafes all over the place. As for digital image storage, I just brought three compactflash cards with me: two 512MB and one 2gig. I took 2,700 photos on my 4-megapixel DSLR using the cards. Only once or twice did I connect my CF cards into a computer at an internet cafe ... I was concerned I might pick up a virus, and wanted to limit my risk.

  123. SD cards, not USB thumb drives by Jace+Harker · · Score: 1
    Of course the Eee is portable and everything else you want; the power brick works with international voltages, I believe. The built-in SSHD should work at any altitude, addressing concerns about high-altitude failure of standard hard drives.

    The Eee has also got a built-in SD slot. I would suggest getting a bunch of SDHC cards (rather than thumb drives). For example, right now Newegg is selling a 4 GB SD card for $9.49 after a mail-in rebate. So: $400 for the Eee, plus $200 for 80 GB worth of SD cards, should allow you over 3GB of photos per week. And honestly, twenty SD cards are a heck of a lot easier to manage than an optical drive and twenty DVDs.

    1. Re:SD cards, not USB thumb drives by pajeromanco · · Score: 1

      I agree. I'm taking a rally to Mongolia this summer, and I've already got an Eee PC for it. My only concern with SD cards is that, where I live, most of them tend to be fakes. I've got a bunch of 2GB SD cards, bought in official Kodak stores and everything, that stopped working after writing more than 512 MB of data. Now I expect to buy several new SD cards in Madrid (where the rally starts), and I just hope this "fake" thing isn't global.

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    2. Re:SD cards, not USB thumb drives by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      I thought that I had a problem with fake SD cards bought off ebay because they are so expensive locally. After about 10 write cycles they were no longer readable, nor could I format them in Ubuntu or Fedora. I then tried formatting them on a friend's WinXP Home SP2 machine, and they all work perfectly since. It seems that Linux systems are not so good for formating flash media as FAT32, and possible the manufacturers (Sandisk and Kingston) use linux? I'm not sure if the limitation is the FAT32 filesystem or the fact that it is flash.

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    3. Re:SD cards, not USB thumb drives by sacherjj · · Score: 1

      First, I'll 4th or 5th or whatever we are up to on the eeePC.

      You might look at the formating SD card section of the http://wiki.eeeuser.com/. I ran into this issue once and that fixed it. If I was going, I'd have a couple 16 Gb cards. They are available for less than $70. I also loaded eeeXubuntu, instead of the default Xandros. This allows you to customize it a little easier. I use this with the USBModem program on my Treo 700p to get internet away from a WiFi. Works like a charm with no extra data charge, other than my data plan on the phone. Data plans in other countries on a cell will most likely be more expensive, so syncing when WiFi is available is probably best.

  124. You'll have to run to make it in only 6 months by ssimmons · · Score: 1

    6 months was barely enough for me to see Eastern and Southern Africa. You might be able to do it if all you're interested in is name-checking but if you really want to see some of the world you'll have to either spend a lot more time or limit your trip a little. If you want to visit Everest base camp and you've got six months, try going from India to Thailand via Nepal. I think you'll have a lot more fun if you take it slower.
    As far as carrying a laptop with you, keep in mind that while internet cafes are plentiful, places with Wi-Fi or even an Ethernet connection might not be. For my trip to Africa I used Apple's Camera Connector to download my pictures to my iPod and used internet cafes to update my blog. It worked for me.

  125. Disposable by macdaddy · · Score: 1

    I would suggest one that you aren't afraid to lose or have destroyed in transit.

  126. Been there, don't bring that by uglyhead69 · · Score: 1

    I spent 10 months traveling around the world and another ten driving across the US in a camper van. You can read about my trip at www.thewanderyonder.com (The picture gallery is probably more interesting) We had a pretty "interesting" trip to Everest base camp from the Tibet side.

    Anyhow, don't bring a laptop. Seriously, its too much weight, even the macbook air. Take your camera and plenty of memory. There are fantastic internet cafes all over the world that you can burn cds and dvds from. We first burned our memory cards and then uploaded them to our hosting provider and mailed the cds/dvds home.

    The important thing is to take notes on what you want to write about when you _do_ get the opportunity. And trust me, you actually _will_ want to spend a lot of time in a pleasant internet cafe uploading pictures and doing the real writing about your trip at the cafe. The note taking system I started using that really helped me caption my pictures and remember the highlights I wanted to write about is to review the pictures you take on your camera during the day and set the viewscreen so that you can see the image file name, then each night, or as close to it as possible, make a note associated with each filename on the camera. Include not only the contents of the picture, but the other things that were happening around the time you took the picture.

    My biggest regret about my trip around the world was trying to figure out the ideal gadget kit beforehand, I went with a Palm TX with Bluetooth Stowaway keyboard and had that set up so I could do banking and upload pictures and blog. But it was such a pain compared to just using internet cafes that I wound up sending all of that home. Instead I wish that I had taken the time to research and buy a digital SLR camera and really figure out how to use it.

    Make sure you bring an unlocked GSM phone, and if you are taking the train from Beijing to Lhasa Tibet, bring enough air sickness bags for everyone in close proximity to you.

    Have a good trip, visit my website and email me from there if you have any specific questions, I'm happy to lend some advice to somebody else doing a trip like this. I'm glad to hear you're going to Namibia its a beautiful highly underrated country.

  127. I spent a year and a half on the road... by d0n+quix0te · · Score: 1

    My suggestion: eschew a laptop. When you are backpacking you will appreciate every pound that you are not carrying. Instead spend the money on a portable camera backup solutions. Internet access is quite easy to find even in remote areas.

    I blogged from Timbuktu, sent e-mail from Lukhla and web surfed in Zanzibar. Internet cafes are quite easy to find in developing countries.

    If you really *need* a laptop... (nobody really needs a laptop.... 4 billion people live without them), then get yourself an ultralight weight machine. But you have to realize that the machine will probably cost more than the annual salary in a lot of places... and plan accordingly.

    Less is more... the journey is the reward. Travel without a laptop and you will be richer for the experience.

    -S

  128. packaging by belmolis · · Score: 1

    If a truly rugged laptop is too heavy or expensive, you might consider using a more ordinary laptop and protecting it. Places that sell laptop accessories will have padded cases, but if water is a concern, you might try the plastic bags used by canoers. They come in a variety of sizes, are very tough, and have special seals that make them truly watertight.

  129. bring only what can fit in your pockets by canadian_in_beijing · · Score: 1

    After 50+ countries and 10 years on the road I came to the conclusion that laptops and travel do not mix, unless you are working full time. Cultures, people and situations are much more interesting when you're forced to get away from the computer screen. The only valuable gadgets I bring must fit in my pant pocket (camera, ipod, cards, pp, money). All items in the backpack have no monetary value...solves so many problems and headaches. Internet cafes are everywhere, but if you must bring one my advice is to stick with a pda...it fits in the pockets

  130. 5month around the world laptop experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I traveled around the world in many developing countries like Cambodia and China with my Dell Inspiron600m. It's not the lightest out there, but I really had no trouble with its weight. Most of the places you stay will have some type of metal locker that you can put your own lock on. When I did have to carry it around for the day I wouldn't take the power adapter etc. Most of the internet cafe's in SE asia I would just take my laptop in and plug it directly in instead of using their computers. You can contact me ryan@albarelli.com if you want more info.

  131. I'm planning a similar trip... by Lugor · · Score: 1

    So I'm planning a similar trip... and I've considered my options. My biggest fear is theft, I'm not too worried about damage. I've traveled with a 12" G4 Powerbook around many places before, including Tibet (didn't get a chance to make it to Everest Base Camp...). I've taken it on backpacking trips, and rock climbing trips to places all over the world, so if you take care of it, damage isn't your biggest concern. Theft is, cause it's one of those things that you can't control easily.... if you travel for 6 months, you are going to lose something...

    So with that in mind, I might actually go dig up my old powerbook and bring that along and should I lose it.. oh well.. My other consideration is my current 13" macbook. The reason I'm even willing to consider my current Macbook is I do a lot of photography and need a computer that can process 1,000 pictures a week on (yes.. I just click away.. :)). I plan on having at least 1 WD Passport along for data storage and back-up. Which adds another reason to bring my Macbook, it runs Leopard so it has TimeMachine to back-up my data. But if I lose the Macbook, I'd shed more tears...

    As for writing the Great American Novel, I plan on dropping by REI and picking up those waterproof notebooks for the times I'm out in some crazy environment (say sea kayaking in Alaska, climbing Mount Kenya and/or Kilimanjaro, etc...), that way I can leave my laptop safely locked up somewhere...

    Another thing to consider is weight. With all the cloth you are bringing.. think about your varied environments.. from desert (100F+) to Everest Base camp (32F-) All the gear you will need for those two very different environments.. where are you going to put it? If you bring an Digital SLR... what about that gear? Lens? etc..

    Toughbooks are cool, so are Thinkpads, as are Macbooks... so in the end my suggestion is do the non-geeky thing.. buy small, buy cheap.. and be prepared to lose it..

    Drop me a line if you are interested seeing if we have any common destinations...

  132. macbook, eee or thinkpad by Lizzeh · · Score: 1

    I have a 17" Macbook Pro that I've taken with me around the world (NY, England, Australia), used it everywhere, and it's been great. of course the size is a hinderance if you want to hoist in on you back. I'd recommend a Macbook (not Air). I have an eee pc and it's so light and useful, I'd recommend that if you want a cheaper/lighter option. I'd bring lots of SD cards, or upload if you have webspace to family and such, or to a blog...keep the pics small (600x480) or so. Or the best laptop that I've had (2 of them) are IBM Thinkpads. NO matter what model, they last forever, are durable, and very reliable.

    1. Re:macbook, eee or thinkpad by FelixGordon · · Score: 1

      I'll second most of this.
      My girlfriend and I took a 3 month trip through China and parts of SE Asia (Laos and Thailand on this occasion..) between us we had a couple of Nikon digital SLRs, a Thinkpad T42p and a MacBook Pro.
      This was almost certainly overkill, but we both enjoy our photography.
      Having carried the ThinkPad around, I think I'll try an EEE pc with an external HDD next time, and save the hardcore photo editing for when the trip is over.

  133. my experience by call+-151 · · Score: 1

    I've had several prolonged trips comparable to the one described here. No high-altitude mountaineering, but several RTWs with a couple of long kayak trips, some lengthy treks, and some good stretches away from power. These were long trips with some periods when I had to be presentable and give lectures and some periods when I was away from the crowds.

    My experiences:

    1) I took a simple G3 iBook on the most recent/ most rugged trip and it worked great. Small, simple and it wouldn't have a disaster if it got badly damaged or stolen. It was silly to have an optical drive but that didn't bother me. Those G3/G4 iBooks are quite sturdy in my experience. I've given 30+ of them to research students who do not treat them gently and though there have been some problems, overall they've held up better than anything else I've tried.

    2) You can find internet cafes everywhere and burn CDs there, upload photos, backup documents, etc. Carrying an optical drive is totally unneeded.

    3) Power supplies are a weak link. On an earlier trip, I was happy to have an easily-replaceable (thanks AppleCare!) power supply instead of something exotic.

    4) I was generally never away from power for more than a week, so carrying extra batteries wasn't worth it for me. That may be important to you. When I was away for power for longer stretches, I just didn't bring or use the machine.

    5) I met some travelling geeks with odd solutions to the document-their-trip-electronically or get-some-work-done-away-from-the-world problems. Nothing stands out as a universal great solution, though I met someone memorable who was using an old Newton a long way off the beaten path with some well-cobbled-together stuff including solar power rechargers.

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  134. All you need to record your thoughts by lord_nimula · · Score: 1

    A notepad and a good pen. I recommend the Parker Jotter--inexpensive, rugged design, and they write for months at a time. Don't get the stainless steel barrel, though; that type gets "lost" too easily. People like shiny objects.

  135. Flipstart! by simpl3x · · Score: 1

    You can get one for $699 now which is pretty damn cost effective. It's small, not glitzy, and runs a standard OS. Get one of the Velcro camera wraps from Calumet online as well.

    I wouldn't buy one normally, but the price has radically dropped, and you could drop in an SSD pretty easily. Dynamism might take care of that for you...

  136. environment, Re:Nokia N810 and cheap Flash by quenda · · Score: 1

    > I would be concerned about taking the N810 into harsh environments. N800 seems to be sealed up better.

    You can use it inside a zip-lock bag when needed. (if dust or salt water around)
    No cables, touch-screen still works.

  137. Namibia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bring your laptop to Namibia. A new laptop or even a used one would be worth something.
    Please also bring your visa, a watch, some levi 501's. Also worth bringing to Namibia is plenty of Euro's or USD. Feel free to leave your items in your hotel or bring them with you as you check out the local markets or wander on the streets.
    Thanks you and have a good day.

  138. Pound for Pound the BEST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HTC Shift... with GSM unlocked will about cover all your needs, small portable, wireless, usb, bluetooth, GSM small form factor, light weight yet large enough to work on.

  139. Bring a paper and pen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a fulltime, professional travel writer and I also write fiction. If you are genuinely living out of your backpack, as I do for the better part of a year sometimes, a subnotebook and required batteries, cases, power adapters, etc., will weigh you down. It just isn't worth it. What I carry, religiously, are USB flash keys, CF cards, CDs (you'll find many countries' internet cafes don't have DVD burners yet) with protective mailer packs, and my own USB 4-way card reader. All my notes, fiction, writings, etc., are done with a Bic pen and good old paper while I'm on the road. When I get home, I sit around for months in my bathrobe, copying and rewriting on the computer, but I am very glad to not have one while I travel. And I keep emails going, blogs up, communicate with my office via FTP and so on all through internet cafes. And the peace of mind that comes from not worrying about a computer getting stolen (or being seen as a target because of it) is well worth the small inconvenience of having to use a pen instead of a keyboard. In many ways, a paper journal facilitates good writing. If you are primarily needing to Skype and email and stay connected to friends, then get whatever gadget you want. If you genuinely want to write you'll be best served with paper and pen, as it will be available, be durable, is unlikely to get stolen, and offers easy and almost instant access -- all of which facilitate writing. The sub-notebook is a nice concept, but for a travel writer or a traveling writer, the old school method is currently far superior to any other option out there. If you're humping your entire life on your back, losing even a pound or two makes a huge difference. Off the thread, but be sure to keep your cash in 3 separate places too. Same goes for photo backups. And if you save chapters of your great American novel to USB disk, be sure to also email them to yourself so if the disk gets stolen you'll have access to them online. Happy trails.

  140. Eee PC by sliverstorm · · Score: 2, Informative

    I would also suggest the Eee as a candidate. Not just because it is cheap, but because
    no moving parts besides the fan
    SSD should prove more resiliant than a harddrive
    small, light
    seems pretty hardy. not 'rugged' but definatly not flimsy like larger 15" and above laptops

    I own one and like it alot. I opened up a reply intending to unbiasedly suggest *features* I think are important, but I realized that the Eee is basically all of them. A few more things; sneakernet seems like a good answer for your situation, but I personally think DVD's are the wrong way to go about it. SD cards are a whole lot lighter, and less prone to breaking in the mail. Also you'll find small laptops make a lot of sacrifices when they decide to have a DVD drive

    Lastly, as for durability, I just wanted to comment that the Eee is all 1 piece inside. There is a screen and a fan and a keyboard, but everything else is all on one motherboard. Because of this I think it will stand up to abuse quite well, short of penetrating/splitting/cracking the whole thing.

    SSD, small form factor, and hopefully no DVD drive seems to be the way to go (Maybe a slim USB dvd drive?)

  141. Small, Light Fully-Rugged by tuttleturtle42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Toughbook CF-19 is a fully rugged laptop which weighs 5 lbs. It's small, with a 10.4 inch screen. The problem with the size lays in the keyboard which is small enough that it takes some time to get used to (its a similar keyboard size to the EEEPC), but its not too bad. I've found with mine its small enough that its comfortable to wear around even on the back of a small person -which if under a coat hides the expensive machine you have.
    There are mount points on the laptop, and you can just connect a strap between opposite corners and wear it around with you. This is comfortable and can make it such that you don't leave your laptop anywhere.

    They are expensive, but also shiny. And it's already possible to find them used for reasonable prices if you look enough on Craig's List. Mine cost $1000 and I've seen a few postings for $1500.

  142. Notes from a bicycle trip around Australia by huskerdoo · · Score: 1

    In 2002-2003 I rode my bicycle trip around the circumference of Australia. I had an IBM Thinkpad 600e. I can't speak for the other models, but this one survived a 13,000 mile ride on the back of a bicycle (including a few hundred miles of washboarded/corrugated dirt roads on the Gulf Track across to top end).

    Only take the laptop if you cannot live without it. It is one more thing to worry about and one more thing to cause you headaches.

    I took a laptop because I like to take a lot of photos. I was filling up a 128 meg flashcard every other day. (this was the 2.1megapixel days). Plus the http://www.lunky.com/ and http://www.humanclock.com/ websites needed constant coding so I really couldn't do without a laptop. I also needed to keep my 128meg MP3 player stocked with music for biking.

    Photos:
    I took about 35,000 photos during my trip. (check it out http://www.lunky.com/ I had to have a laptop primarily for this reason, to get the photos off my flashcards and onto CDs to mail home.

    First and foremost, do not plan to FTP your photos home! Internet access isn't easy and fast like it is here in the USA. Uploading even several megs worth of original/fullsized photos home is impractical. Connections are dreadfully slow (due to being overloaded) and internet cafe's can be REALLY picky about how you use their machines. Their bandwidth (at least at that time) was metered so they would frown upon you transferring large amounts of files. I was kicked out of a cafe for plugging in my USB drive/mp3 player. I nearly got kicked out of another cafe in Broome because I simply had my laptop turned on and sitting next to one of their computers. A lot of hostels have those god-forsaken kiosks that don't even have a CD drive. This was all in Australia too, a first world country.

    Blogs/journals:
    If you find that you can get wifi easily and/or get things off of your laptop and onto a computer at a net cafe...compose a lot of your emails on a text editor. This way you can write whether or not you have net access and best of all, you don't have to shell out $5.00/hr for the privilege of typing. My laptop easily paid for itself this way. I could type up 10 hours worth of letters, website updates, etc...copy it to a disk, then load up the files, copy/paste into my webmail program and be done in 10 minutes. There was $50.00 saved right there.

    Setup/Backups:
    Always plan that your laptop is gonna get stolen next week, so keep stuff backed up and the backups away from the laptop. Set things up on your laptop so it is easy to back things up that can't be replaced. (photos, writings etc). If you have special software you need, stash it somewhere on a webserver or make burn copies that a friend can mail to you should you get your laptop stolen/etc. (I had to once do a new PHP/Apache/Mysql setup and could only get it off the net cafe's computer and onto mine via 1.44meg floppy discs. That sucked.) Since I was in Australia I could bank on a good postal system, but I still would burn two copies of my photo CDs and mail them to different destinations at different times.

    On a side note, take a lot of photos of the stuff people don't normally take photos of. Years later you will be glad you did. Sunsets are a dime a dozen, but photos of a grocery store shelf or a power outlet are the little things that take you back to your day to day life traveling.

  143. Take a PDA by ah802 · · Score: 1

    I traveled Europe a while back, with a well equipped PDA.. loaded it up with a mapping program, my favorite MP3's, all critical phone numbers and itinerary, universal timer and world alarm clock, dictionary (various languages) and select ebooks. Wifi would have been useful in some areas...and a cam would have worked, but mine never had that. Recharged ever so often at the Hostel (adapters are needed) never had me in the position I had to use my back-up on MS and once got a photo sent to me by IR connect link. I was using the Sony Sj33 but I'm sure there is far better units with SD, Wifi, HD cam, voice recording... you'll always find room for it. I would stop at internet cafe's or photostores all over the place and burn a CD disk once I had 3-400 images collected. And don't forget the ear buds. Raining... throw it into a zip baggy. Pick a Palm device... easy to use.

  144. XO-1 laptop + USB DVD burner by this+great+guy · · Score: 1

    Three words: USB DVD burner.

    They are cheap, you could even buy 2 of them if the 1st one is damaged or gets stolen. The OLPC XO-1 laptop + a USB DVD burner really looks like a perfect solution for the OP's needs. FYI there are 3 USB 2.0 ports on the XO-1.

    1. Re:XO-1 laptop + USB DVD burner by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Not or bad suggestion. Drivers might be an issue.

    2. Re:XO-1 laptop + USB DVD burner by nani+popoki · · Score: 1

      Drivers *are* an issue. AFAIK, nobody has yet gotten the XO to write to a USB CD or DVD drive. Otherwise, the XO is a good fit (if you have or can get one -- they're no longer for "retail" sale); my XO will be traveling with me later this year, along with a CF reader and a USB HD. I had eight requirements and as of today the XO satisfies nine of them (I had to write code to do one):

      1. Browser from which I could access my email account; 2. Word processor capable of basic functions and able to handle Hawaiian characters; 3. E-book reader capability; 4. MP3 player capability; 5. The ability to off-load CF cards from my camera; 6. A planetarium program so I can do casual visual astronomy and fixed-camera astrophotography (had to write this); 7. Battery life sufficient for 6-hour flights with the ability to re-charge in a typical layover and 8. The ability to turn of the WiFi so the thing can be used while flying (which is promised in the next update "real soon now").

    3. Re:XO-1 laptop + USB DVD burner by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Just curious: are there any popular WPs that can't do Hawaiian? It's simple Unicode left-to-right, isn't it? Of course, you'd have to install the necessary font.

      The XO still has no independent power source? That's a significant omission. Have you considered attaching one of those solar cell kits? Should be able to draw power from the fluorescent lights in an airplane.

      The whole USB driver issue is a pain. I work for Sun, and like everybody else we've mostly abandoned RS-232 in favor of USB. Which isn't a big deal if you're running Windows or a well-supported Linux distro. But there aren't a lot of Solaris drivers for USB devices.

  145. Re:Pick Three by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    Asus Eee PC. Undestroyable, cheap and light weight.

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    Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
  146. Living Round the World Myself by zabaldo · · Score: 1

    I'm a trekking guide and live in Nepal. I'm often traveling with my computer in semi-rugged conditions. Spent a lot of time initially figuring out what works for me... I've taken my Mac PB G4 all over the world with me--Egypt, Mongolia, etc. While I haven't taken it to Everest Base Camp, and yes, it's not made to function at 18K ft, you are not going to be at altitude that long, are you? Most people are up there only a few days. Take photos and notes for 3 days. You can leave your computer locked up with a lodge owner lower down if you want/need to. Don't overgear. I watch people pack all the time. Most people are very worried about whatever is important to them, whether tech stuff or otherwise, and tend to spend a lot of money gearing up unnecessarily. My computer has been through dust storms, heat, and cold, and it's fine. It's small and fairly light, and yes, I carry it all over. I liked booqbags for their excellent indestructible sleeve, and I liked snowboarder bags (like Dakine) for a backpack because they don't look like you have a laptop in them, and they fit close to the body which makes them comfortable to wear under all sorts of conditions. Otherwise, look for a small climbing pack--same benefits. Look for inner pockets, instead of outer pockets that can be easily picked by theives. Regarding a replacement computer, you can definitely buy one in Nepal if need be. I can't speak to the rest of Asia, but you can get one with the right keyboard and language pack here no problem. I'm guessing that's true in other developing countries where pirated software is readily available. What you will most like to have if you have a mac is an Apple 2-pin-round plug adaptor to swap out on the plug adapter INSTEAD of having an adapter that fits over the 2-pin-flat plug. Also, I use my ipod as a backup for docs/calendars/addresses, and try to always keep it in a separate bag from my computer or a jacket pocket--just in case my computer does get bumped, broken, stolen. Good luck!

  147. Don't bring anything. by pclminion · · Score: 1

    Nothing puts a downer on your trip-of-a-lifetime quite like getting the shit beaten out of you for the sake of a cheap laptop.

  148. What year are you posting from? by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    if you walk into any hotel or Internet Caffe most will have a LAN connection and very few will have WiFi.
    I haven't been to a single internet cafe, bar, or coffee shop that had ethernet instead of WiFi. I've only been to one hotel with ethernet, three years ago. The rest were all WiFi.
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  149. Use Dead Explorers' PCs... by littlewink · · Score: 1
    especially on Everest. You needn't bother carrying anything up except perhaps a fresh battery pack - it's all there already: food, drink, tents, sleeping bags, PCs et al all left along with the bodies of their owners.

    With the exception of the discarded bodies by the wayside, Everest's trails look like the road to the local dumping grounds. Why anyone would want to climb to the top of that trash heap is beyond me.

  150. bring no laptop at all by kwench · · Score: 1

    At least in south-east asia I regretted bringing my laptop: Either you have an internet cafe or you have no power and internet connection at all. Knoppix or U3 or something on a well protected USB flash drive should be your best friend that doesn't weight much nor takes a lot of space in your backpack. Get a big one (e.g. 4 GB) and chose a decent resolution for your digital camera and you are ready to take more pictures than your relatives/friends would like you to show them. Consider renting a virtual (or real) server and using NX.

    And remember: Once inside the namib deserts, be sure to forget about your tech-oriented life, go outside and enjoy the sun!

  151. Sony TZ by mixmasta · · Score: 1

    I took a precursor with me a few years back. Very light, with builtin webcam and dvd burner. Nothing else is even close at this size.

    Honorable mention: Mac air, but no optical drive!

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  152. Don't bother - speaking from experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I took a backpack trip around the world for about 5 months recently, and the number one mistake I did was carrying around my laptop.
    Its heavy and almost worthless in lesser developed countries.
    If you need to use the internet, there are Cafes in almost every place (Even in Siberia -- one of the places I traveled). Most don't have wifi, but do let you do most things you really want the computer for.

    Another big downside is that you miss out on interaction with locals if all you are doing is sitting with your nose in a laptop. Bring a small journal book to keep notes in if thats what you want to do. Its smaller, more convienient to take places that don't allow electronics, and doesn't run the risk of getting stolen or labeling you as a rich foreigner.

    burning pictures is a valiant goal, but then you are going to need to bring the media along with you or try buying DVD-Rs in a market somewhere. Most internet cafes offer transfer to CD as a service, and in more developed countries DVDs... but why not just post them online to a sharing service from the Internet cafe as a travelogue for friends back home?

    Go without the laptop and enjoy the world... trust me, it will be better that way.
    (and if you really decide you need one, buy a disposable one over there... it'll be cheaper that way and as long as you go cheap you can sell it to someone you meet, or even give it away when you don't need it anymore and not feel terrible about the expense.)

    1. Re:Don't bother - speaking from experience by anglete · · Score: 1

      I agree, I recently visited India, Nepal, and Thailand. I had a macbook. It was great for what I needed (I was working while traveling), but I really didn't want to need it. I'd suggest using the internet cafe's which are available everywhere.

      A laptop is something you need to take care of. You worry about it being stolen. They can break (mine did, a nice hard floor at a hospital is not a good thing for a laptop to land on)

      For the 5 minutes of real stuff you couldn't do if you didn't have one there's always somebody elses you can borrow.

      Also, even if you have a laptop, you must back up your pictures on more than just the laptop drive. The worst thing in the world is a single point of failure. Burn pictures, send them home, keep them on a drive, keep them on your flash, etc.

  153. Panasonic Toughbook by o0juanito0o · · Score: 1

    http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/laptop-computers.asp

    If you can afford one. The military uses these quite a bit. I had no problem with them in Iraq.

  154. Believe it or not... by alexandre_ganso · · Score: 1

    I did more or less the same that you are planning to...

    with a 2.0gz macbook.

    Battery stands for 3 hours of full operation, 8 when saving a lot of juice.

    Works wonderfully, but there's no way to clean it up! The only thing who does the job is dental floss, mind you...

  155. I suggest... by AdamWill · · Score: 1

    A spiral bound notebook and a film camera.

  156. Re:Take a PDA - make that a Nokia N810 by paul.tap · · Score: 0

    I can second this. A friend of mine is going to go on about an identical trip and I advised him to take a Nokia N810. He is/was thinking an EEE too, but thinks it's too vulnerable and even large. The N810 is extremely powerful for it's size and supports up to 8GB micro-sd cards, which are a better idea than DVD's, regardless of the price. Having access to a hotspot may allow you to "beam" stuff home instead of using snail mail. Taking a device like this, will save you from carrying an mp3 player and a laptop. It comes with skype so if you bring a mobile phone an get yourself a cheap data card, or you go to a hotspot, you can do cheap calls home too. It will just fit into your pocket. If you plug it into a computer via usb it will show up as an external drive, so it's easy to work with stuff on it that way. It also has a keyboard itself though. It runs linux so you may also just ssh to it, or run vnc to control it. The browser is mozilla based with good javascript support so hardly any limits on that. Oh, I almost forgot, it has an gps too, with mapping stuff and all. I'm quite a bit of a gadgeteer. I got my N810 two weeks ago, and I can't remember the last time that a new gadget kept surprising me for such a long time.

  157. Namibia? by codeButcher · · Score: 1

    You might also want to keep the "50(*) kg(**) Notebook" rule in mind:

    • a 1 kg notebook requires a 49 kg chain and padlock.
    • a 10 kg notebook requires a 40 kg chain and padlock.
    • ...
    • a 50 kg notebook requires no chain or padlock.

    (*) Depending on the particular developing country, you'll have to choose a suitably large value for 50.

    (**) kg = kilogram, the SI unit for mass. According to the Google converter, 1 kilogram = 2.20462262 pounds.

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  158. Geeks! by edelholz · · Score: 1

    Gee, if I were you, I'd just bring two pens and a bit of paper. That'll be lighter, people won't steal it from you, and it's more convenient too. On that kind of trip I'd rather have to type my journal AFTER the trip instead of risking the hassle of losing everything in the middle of nowhere. To be safe, you might take pictures of the pages you've written and then upload them together with all the other pictures you took at your nearest Internet Café. You could even go for your idea of burning DVDs there, most Cafés will probably offer that.

    Have a great trip.

  159. Toughbook W2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've taken my Toughbook W2 to most of the places you mentioned and a few you haven't; jungle trekking in high humidity, serious rafting trips, desert trekking. It's performed flawlessly and still is. Pricey though. I would also think about the EEE, they weren't available when I got the toughbook 5 yers ago. Only complaint is that the CD writer takes forever. Oh, and get a portable surge protector for it, Belkin used to make one (again pricey, but worthwhile).

  160. iBook G4, PowerBook G4, MacBookAir by pbn42 · · Score: 1

    Hi there Here's my personal .50 cents I'd go for a 12 inch Apple laptop. I'm very happy with my iBook, it dual boots Mac OS X and Debian GNU/Linux 4.0. Of course the PowerBook 12 inch is bulkier than the iBook 12 inch. Better case. Too bad there's no MacBookPro 12 inch. There's the MacBook Air though, but it's very very pricy, especially with the solid state disk. In my opinion, Apple laptops are very bulky, but many people say the IBM Thinkpads are really the bulkiest laptops ever.

  161. What about power supplies? by AYeomans · · Score: 1

    I can't help but wonder where you get power supplies on Everest, in the deserts and jungles. The The Eee is great for most of what you want, but its battery lasts 3 hours or so and takes a long time to charge up. Whereas I've had batteries in a Palm M100 last 180 days - and they use easy-to-obtain AAA cells.
    Same applies to digital cameras, though use of AA cells is pretty common. It's at least as infuriating to know you can't take that picture as your battery is flat, as losing the backup.
    I'd be inclined to treat the photo backup as a separate issue to writing the blog. Look for cameras with enough internal memory and functions to transfer to memory cards, or a separate backup dongle. And see if you can find an older-style replaceable battery PDA for blogging when out the range of an internet connection.

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    Andrew Yeomans
  162. A Macbook just survived a full year by mcquain2 · · Score: 1

    Hi, i'm just back from a full year of traveling. I picked up a Macbook for similar reasons about 8 months ago and it survived the full experience Australian outback, New Zealand winter, tropical heat and humidity (Asia) - all while I lived out of a tent or the back of a car. Took all the punishment perfectly. NOTE: BATTERY LIFE IS CRITICAL, you might have to go days without power. As for posting DVD's home, it's actually o.k. to do (although having said that, I didn't bother as I had multiple drives to backup to - ipods, etc. - and just uploaded whenever I could the best of the best photos). Whenever I did post, I'd send two copies home, and send them on different days. Reduces odds of them not getting back in the post. Interestingly, the only places I ever lost post were Western countries - Asian countries have never failed me for post services. anyway, Macbook took all the abuse (I sat on it a few times by mistake, and put a tiny crack in the outer screen but can't be seen when the screen is turned on). Battery life is amazing also which was the critical thing for me. Enjoy the trip!!!!!

  163. Simple, rugged, low power solution... by ignavus · · Score: 1

    Take an abacus.

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  164. If you want small, light and robust... by LLKrisJ · · Score: 1

    Why not go with an eePC??

    It is small and light enough. You wouldn't be able to write DVD's but you could use some of the cheaper SD cards instead to send photos home. Those would be more robust and lighter than DVD R's anyway... Besides, with the money you save on the ee you'd be able to buy a bunch of SD cards...

  165. Why not use a pen and paper? by Jammet · · Score: 1

    I assume you want to do all of that online? If that is not such a big deal, the safest thing you can do is simply resort to using pen, paper, and snailmail everything home. Remember, you can even mail something home that you can touch. Like that beautiful empty clam you found on the beach,the curious looking pebble, whatever suits your fancy.

    Unless you *must* go online on your *own* computer, why bring a laptop? There are so many computers around the world that you could watch movies and go online at every second corner stone even in third world countries by now. Why bring that much luggage with you.

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    Leopard cub
  166. Moleskines and Internet cafes by Tom+Womack · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't think you need a laptop.

    There are Internet cafes in the nine corners of the Earth, almost all of whom will burn the contents of your camera's memory cards to DVD, and all of whom will happily let you sit blogging or writing to your heart's content for some princely sum in local currency equivalent to eleven cents the hour. OK, you will be surrounded by local teenagers playing World of Warcraft and smoking like chimneys, but this is not hard to endure.

    Bring Moleskine notebooks and a reasonable supply of pens; it's not worth lugging even an Eee up to Everest Base Camp just to take notes that you could take on paper with a pen.

    I've done round-the-world, I do copious backpacking in Europe; I've a couple of inches of Moleskines on a shelf, and whilst from time to time I've wished for a flashlight, and occasionally I've had to figure out where to buy a 4GB compact-flash card in Belgrade, I've never felt that what I needed was a laptop.

  167. Fromt the front by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I write to you from my Dell latitude D400 laptop in my room in Vietnam. I'm on the road for seven months now, all over India and southeast asia, up to 3500m, in the desert, in rain forest, on the beach, ect. Everything as gone good for my laptop, but now for my power supply... I have to buy four different one in this trip. Electricity is so random and inconsistent in third world country that it blow power supply like crazy. This was my main problem. But, even for a Dell, I was able to find replacement part quite easily.

    I wrap my laptop in a very basic leather case when I'm on the road with my laptop in my backpack. So far so good.

    I buy it used, for very cheap. The CD player is a remote USB one, and if I knew i wouldn't have carry it around. There is place for burning CD and DVD even in the most remote places. Just bring 1 or 2 usb key of 4 gigs. Transfert your stuff on it and carry your key with you all the time. You can leave your laptop in your room 99.9% of the time without any problems. I can tell you right now that you won't carry it around all the time. Or if you do you'll not be able to do a lot of things and will regret it.

    There is cheap laptop to be bought almost everywhere. With Windows in english. Just bring some DVD with the software you need, and be sure not to pile them, the moisture make the aluminium cover stick on the DVD over it and make them unreadable. Experience talking here :-(

    If I had to buy another laptop for my trip, and only for that, and I had no problems spending a lot of money, I'll go with the Sony ultraportable. Sony is everywhere and it's really easy to have them repair or get replacement part if you have a problem. They are underpower, but more than enough for photo editing. But I think I made the best choice buying a really cheap laptop that I don't mind that much having it theft. As I say, cheap laptop are available everywhere, and you can buy 3 or 4 of them for the price of a brand new one. It make your mind free when you leave it behind, and they still make the job. Just be sure to have a laptop with huge battery live. A lot of places don't have electricity in the day time...

  168. smartphone by wlodek_j · · Score: 1

    One with WIFI, querty keyboard , bluetooth, good camera (3MPix) and SD card. Maybe with GPS.
    It's lighter than laptop. And it does stuff you need.

    Nokia E90 (expensive, yes but worth it) o Sony-Ericcson P1i, or Nokia E61i.
    Something like that. Symbian or windows - it's up to you.

    And hand-crack and/or solar charger for it :).

    In some countries electricity is still... well not very common.

    Good luck!!

  169. Go for Nokia N800/N810 and USB keyboard by Kumiorava · · Score: 1

    I have thought about same problem and came into conclusion that what I need on the road is following things:
    * Ability to write diary
    * Ability to browse internet (search for next hostel/sight info)
    * Ability to upload pictures to gmail or some other site (send to yourself)
    * Travel light (this is most important)

    I did my travel around the world with 17kg package without computer or mobile phone back in 2001, even then backpack was heavy and troublesome in some occasions. Take 2kg + all the accessories more and it will take space from far more important items. In case you go for N810 it has small keyboard (not for great stories, USB keyboard for stories), GPS, WIFI, Skype (installable), webcam, and browser. Weight is about one fifth of what small laptop will be. The price is around 400 USD and best thing is that it runs Linux. Here is link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N810

    What you need to make sure is that your camera/video camera has the USB drivers and you are able to transfer pictures to your N810. I bet your pictures will be much safer if you upload them while in some internet bar or hostel, if unsure there are plenty of places where they can burn DVD for you. Most of the cities these days have working internet connections and transferring several hundred megabytes shouldn't be a problem. Meanwhile buy as many memory cards as you think you will need and then empty them (over night if needed) when you get to a good connection.

  170. Ask people who have done it by margam_rhino · · Score: 1

    Suggest you get in contact with some people who have travelled with a laptop for that purpose. http://www.eastofthesun.co.uk/ This is the website of two relatives who travelled from Canada to the south of South Amercia on a motorbike. Their laptop survived the trip, might be worth asking them.

  171. It will be on your back all the time, so... by penas · · Score: 1

    ...go for the best 1Kg PC. I'm very happy with my old W5 from Asus and will change any minute for the new series U, never had any problem on the rock n' roll road. You need big screens - I mean 12", not 7"- to sort photos, glue them in panoramas, you need some muscle to make it quick. A firm keyboard is a must to write with gusto. OK, take some paper and pen, some memory cards, universal AC adaptors, one letterman tool, extra power block - you really will use them in air, bus and train waiting hours. Make a light AC extension, using 5 meters of 2x 0,5 wire, against the rules. Wild trips, including horse back and bull wagon, does not harm your notebook, safely tucked, ok? A good paded back pack, light as well, is a must for everyday life. Do backup in a web space, frequently. Best

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    {100% paranoia is not enough when you are 99.9% right}
  172. You need a Smartphone by flowera · · Score: 1

    Try a Nokia E90. I've had mine for a few weeks and haven't taken my laptop with me since. Camera+WiFi+keyboard. Fits in your pocket easy enough. Very well built. Upload your photos directly from camera to flickr (or wherever) or buy a stash of microSD cards (only $15 for 1GB) and mail them home. Best of all it has GPS built in.

  173. iPhone by countach · · Score: 1

    I don't think you want a laptop on a trip like that, I think you want an iPhone. Sure the keyboard isn't really up to the great american novel, (but someone may release an external one after February, when the platform is opened up), but would you really write a novel, or would notes for a novel be good enough? And you could keep your notes backed up over the internet or such.

  174. If you call it the Great Canadian Novel ... by eck011219 · · Score: 1

    ... people in other countries won't give you so much crap.

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    It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
  175. Panasonic Toughbook W5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not the Huge boxy ones with a handle, the W5 with an extra battery. Small, light, pretty fast and you can easily get 5 hours out of a charge. SD slot built in, includes a built in optical drive of your choice, and a built in cellular modem if you desire. Seriously, this is one of the best traveling laptops I've ever deployed. My users are not gentle and for a year now, the only issue I've had is someone closing their pen in the laptop and scratching their screen (that's out of 14 traveling sales guys, and 1 executive that went mushing in Alaska). They are bad ass.

  176. OLPC by e.coli · · Score: 1

    If you have to have a computer, check out the OLPC. It's ruggedized and portable. Plus, it's cheap (relatively). And a portable hard disk drive to store things on.

  177. If you're leaving in December... by unitron · · Score: 1
    "Best Laptop for Going Around the World?"

    Santa Claus's!

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    I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

  178. Leave the laptop behind. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    I have been to Namibia several times. You don't want a laptop in the Namib desert or in Ethosa. Most likely it will end broken or malfunction due to sand or humidity. I lost 2 laptops (this was some time ago I have to say) due to the rigors that have to be endured during transportation (mostly dirt roads, well serviced, but still is not the same, and this is when you are in a road, elephants and rhinos di not stick to roads, you know?).

    And what for anyway? Every day or 2 you will touch base in town, all the major ones (Swakopmund, Walvis Bay, Windhoek, etc) have Internet cafes all around the place (you are not the first person backpacking there, honest). Transcribe your novel there and save your pictures to a more permanent medium than your massive memory cards.

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    IANAL but write like a drunk one.
  179. Ask Almitra! by WheelDweller · · Score: 1

    Almitra Wilcox, a woman who's trying to walk around the world, might be able to help with your travels. She had crossed Australia through the middle (the desert part, not around the outside edge) before I 'met' her online. She's *walked* through Cambodia, Vietnam, Tibet, India and dozens more...*WALKING BACK* through Pakistan and/or Afghanistan when she lost her hat that chronicled the stops along the way.

    Just now, she's off the job- like me she has family to care for, but that should mean she's more available by email and such:

    photogypsy.org is the website, she's Almitra@PhotoGypsy.org and a very nice lady- enjoy!

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  180. 2 Options to think about... by foniksonik · · Score: 1

    if you have to go with modern technology... maybe consider something that uses a satellite link but is ultra portable... This company has a variety of options with service plans.

    Forget about the DVD burning, it's a problem waiting to happen for you... and it sucks up battery power like nothing else. Just email your notes and files to yourself.

    If you can stand to not have a keyboard to take your notes with... I suggest a paper based journal product.... a thick artist journal with lined pages on one side and blank pages on the other, Acid free paper and leather binding... put it in a water tight envelope when not in use.

    This option gives you the most flexibility of all. What I would take is the Paper Journal, A good digital camera with lots of memory and a Satellite Smartphone that can sync with the camera and has email. this way you get the best of both digital and traditional media... take pictures, draw diagrams, take notes and send yourself emails w/ backup options all around for whatever situation you find yourself in.

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    A fool throws a stone into a well and a thousand sages can not remove it.
  181. Fujitsu Siemens Celsius H250 by joaommp · · Score: 1

    Honestly, the best laptop I've have worked with so far is the Fujitsu Siemens Celsius H250, from FSC line of professional computers.

    Very tough, excelent options for costumization, excelent at work, not too heavy, excelent stability

    Mine is as follows:

    Core 2 Duo T7300 (option can go from T7100 to T7700)
    4GB RAM (option from 1G to 8G)
    410GB Hard drive (160+250, upgrading to 250+320 in a few weeks) (option from 120G)
    3.5G Sierra MC8780 module (7.2Mbps) (option)
    Intel Gigabit (series)
    Intel Wireless 4965AGN (option)
    1680x1050 resolution (option up to 1920x1200)
    NVidia Quadro FX570 256MB (series)
    Touchpad + Trackpoint (series)
    Fingerprint reader (option)
    Smartcard reader (option)
    Removable air filter (series)
    Docking station (option)
    56K Modem (option)
    TPM chip (option)
    Webcam (option)
    Firewire (series)

    It has some space for improvement like on the keyboard (the Home and End keys are only accessible with the Function key which reduces productivity - I use all the editing keys - which forced me remap the keyboard to something more custom to have those keys accessible)

    It's the third laptop I buy, and the 10th different model I use. It was the first that I felt I wasn't wasting my money and the makes me feel it was a good investment. All others were pure disapointments.

    It was a bit expensive (2190 - and this was a special price, original price is 3600) but it was worth it.

    I used to have a Compaq... that ended up in court of law because after one repair within the warranty, the laptop came back even worse and they refused to replace it for a new one or to give the money back (to which they are obliged to under Portuguese law).
    It had a problem with the power system (when on battery, the laptop would, by itself, turn ON randomly). Came back all dirty (the technician that repaired it was eating bread with butter at the time he repaired it, you could tell), the touchpad came back dead, the OS came back with a virus, the battery came back completely dead. When I complained to Compaq, they insisted on a second repair. Under Portuguese law, they have to forcibly give back the money or give me a new machine a machine, if it is my wish. They refused it and when I threatened them with court, they killed my machine as soon as I connected to the internet(completely hardware bricked, it wouldn't turn on in any possible way) using their remote assistance software that runned on port 2301, if I'm not mistaken (I was using a fresh install from the recovery CD, at the time that happened, I was downloading patches).
    It ended up in court. The case ended when they came asking for a settlement.

    1. Re:Fujitsu Siemens Celsius H250 by joaommp · · Score: 1

      It's the third laptop I buy, and the 10th different model I use. It was the first that I felt I wasn't wasting my money and the makes me feel it was a good investment. All others were pure disapointments.

      should read:

      It's the third laptop I buy, and the 10th different model I use. It was the first that I felt it wasn't a complete waste of money and that makes me feel it was a good investment. All others were pure disapointments.

      and the prices were in Euros. As an addition: Standard warranty is 3 years, parts are available for more 5 years and service is impecable even in Portugal. When I needed to replace the laptop cover because of a nasty scratch, the parts were available next day, replacement was done in the same day on-site.

  182. 1.6TB SSD? by kai6novice · · Score: 1

    Why don't you wait for the 1.6TB SSD to come out and but 2-3 of those and use it as backup. I know it will probably cost you a fortune.

  183. Nokia N810 by marros · · Score: 1

    This would be my preference. Same as eePc, just with a slider keyboard. Buy a tough shell for it, one that will provide shock and water protection, and buy a bunch of the mini-sd cards. They come with an adapter to allow full sd capabilities, buy a sd-usb adapter (cheap) and do the USB OTG adapter cable and then copy the mini-sds to a thumbdrive that then you can mail or whatever.

  184. Cat 5 Cable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An ethernet cable is a "dongle" I have to carry around anyway. Putting a little adapter on the end doesn't make much of a difference. It's certainly not evil.

  185. Ditch the laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just forget the laptop. You will enjoy your trip a lot and experience the local way of doing things a lot more without it. Otherwise you will just be doing the same things you do at home, but from an unusual location

  186. Rethink your needs by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 1
    Rethink your needs! You want to take pictures and keep a journal. Well, you can save your pictures to memory cards and mail the cards back home just like mailing DVDs--only smaller and more portable. You can take notes in a real paper journal, with a pen or pencil. You can also draw pictures therein if you like. Decades from now when you come across your battered old travel journal, it will mean something to you. Moreover, the journal doesn't need batteries, isn't nearly as likely to be stolen and is much lighter-weight.

    You might consider buying a new notebook every week wherever you happen to be and mailing the old one back home. Then you'll have a collection of foreign notebooks, each one filled with your thoughts on the trip. Trust me, when you read over them in the years to come they'll mean a lot more than a few computer files ever will. You'll see the handwriting of a younger you and it will take you back like no blog entry could.

    And you can always type your notes up when you return home.

  187. You sure you need a laptop? by Simulant · · Score: 1


    Assuming this is a not a business trip, don't bring a laptop. If you do bring a laptop and it actually survives six months of travel in 3rd world countries and wilderness areas, you aren't traveling right and are missing some (much?) of the experience. Bring a notebook to write in. Bring a cheap camera (unless you are a professional photographer which is a whole other style of travel). And if you must have an electronic fix bring a DS or palm type device. If you find yourself looking for internet cafes every other day, you probably should have stayed home...

    I read books for two months on a Handspring Visor in South East asia, and even it didn't survive that trip. It ran on 2 AAA batteries which lasted for a long time and which I could get anywhere. When it finally broke toward the end of the trip, I wasn't too sad. It was a Fry's refurb for which I paid $75. The one I replaced it with when I got back has lasted 6 or 7 years and has been around the world once or twice.

  188. alphasmart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe you don't need a full-blown laptop, just a word processor ... i've tried travelling with both, and I much prefer the alphasmart word processor. No flasy computer stuff to distract you, just text on the screen.

  189. "Penny-Wise, Pound-Foolish" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just get a Panasonic Tough Book. It will work anywhere and you have one less thing to worry about.

  190. Alphasmart & Palm TX by The+Conductor · · Score: 1

    I think the best Palm device for this application is the TX, along with a Bluetooth keyboard. It just doesn't get any smaller, or more battery-friendly, than that. If you can find an infrared modem (I have a Psion model) you will have both Wi-Fi and dial-up. (I am not aware of an ethernet interface for a TX.) I don't know a way to edit a photo on one of these things, but it has an SD slot to take them in and the mail client can send them out.

    But by the time you trick your TX out with all these accessories, it will cost more than an EEE PC. It may, however, be worth carrying a TX instead of a second, backup, EEE PC.

    Palm cancelled the Foleo right before the EEE PC took off like a rocket. What a missed opportunity!

  191. ziploc bags by NWprobe · · Score: 1

    Whatever you choose there is one thing you will need if you are going to desert areas and beaches. Ziplock bags.
    Sand get in all your clothes and bags. Buy ziploc bags to protect cameras and laptops.

    I'd take any old laptop, and if it should get stolen, broken or otherwise rendered useless, you can always get a new cheap ones here to for about $1200. Burn 2 DVD's of backup. Then mail one back home. It will probably arrive safely, but don't count on it. Forget about uploading backups over the internet, at least for your 4Gb memory card. The internet lines from developing countries to abroad is overloaded and slow.

    Oh, and when you go to the Namib desert, do the "Livin desert tour" in Swakopmund. Don't go quadbiking, it's killing all the wildlife in the desert.

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  192. Toughbook 29 for me - oilfield work by nobuddy · · Score: 1

    I work in oil and gas exploration. I have tried them all. While I can give a nod to the Toshibas, I simply could not hope to do this job without a Panasonic Toughbook. While it is heavier than a lot, it is not a huge burden. The bright backlit screen, ultra ruggedness, environmental seal, etc is a must have. And, since it needs no case or carrying bag, the weight is not so different. if you account for the bag and accessories needed for other laptops, the difference disappears. Wireless, G3, integrated DVD-RW, and a good powerhouse to boot. The newest line (CF30) even offers a solid state drive option, IIRC. Even better.

  193. Dell Inspiron 700m by domj00 · · Score: 1
    My coworkers and I have taken Dell laptops to many remote sites. Over several month long trips they all survived deserts, jungles, a New Hampshire winter and really lousy power infrastructure.. I've personally submitted my laptops to extreme dust, moderately high temperature range, high humidity and moderately high altitude. Just to get the frame of reference; my first machine was inherited from an Antarctic trip and I took it to the Atacama (40C and 3km).
    • I like my current 700m the best.
      • Pros: small, light, runs cool, good outdoor screen visibility, 4-5 hour battery life
      • Cons: CF slot and external monitor don't work (I run Linux and assume they work fine under Windows, haven't tried very hard to get them working), poor AC adapter design only lasts a few trips (we've gotten half a dozen replaced)
    • The older 8200s weren't bad either.
      • Pros: extra bays, more ports than the 700m (but no firewire)
      • Cons: a bit more bulky, no integrated wireless, venting was too generous (tilt it once a week to pour out sand), poor hinge design resulting in eventual screen failure
    • The 5150s suck for this sort of trip.
      • Pros: very powerful
      • Cons: very heavy, big, power hogs, one of ours died when plugged in to AC at a mining camp (the others survived fine)
    So basically I'm saying get a 700m, they're plenty tough. And I'm not affiliated with Dell, but my University has a contract with them. On a related note, since I wasn't specing I have no clue how much they were or what we got that wasn't part of the 'base' system.
  194. Currently by Voline · · Score: 1

    I'm writing via the wireless network in a café in Xela, Guatemala on my 15" Macbook Pro. I'm amazed by how many internet "cafés" (really just a place to rent time on the computer) I've seen in this country. Even in the tiny town of Colomba (pop ~ 7000) there's one. And many cafés have wifi.

    I'm going to be in Central America and Mexico for some months, and I'm glad I brought the laptop. It's saved me the fees of computer-rental places and I get to use my preferred OS and programs in more comfortable surroundings. (Guatemalan computers are all wintel boxes. Many tourists have Mac laptops with them. But no Guateltecos that I have spoken to have heard of Linux.)

    It's good to have something to download my photos to and edit them before I email them to friends or put them on my web site. But I wish I had something smaller. A macbook would have been more practical and they're tougher with their polycarbonate housing.

    I brought a small firewire drive for backups just in case. Don't want to lose all those photos! Also bring a USB flashkey for data transfer when you do need to use the rent-a-computers.

  195. Panasonic Toughbook FTW by chx1975 · · Score: 1

    Those IBM ThinkPads are nice but the stuff that just shatters one of those will leave a Toughbook without a scratch. I have an Y5 and the abuse this baby can take is astonishing. And it's light, light, light! There are smaller ones: T, R, W series.

  196. Panasonic "business" Toughbooks by mattis_f · · Score: 1

    The business models, as the grand-parent suggest, are not heavy at all. Kinda expensive, yes, but tougher than most and freakishly light.

    The CF-T series has a 12" screen, core 2 duo processor, no optical drive, and clocks in around 1.2kg. The W series is very similar but adds an optical drive, at less than 1.5kg. (that's about 3 lbs).

    All of those laptops have water proof keyboards, should be able to survive a drop from 1 meter and take 100kg of pressure. There are videos on Youtube of people testing these claims (seems to be true).

    http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/products.asp

  197. Back in the day and beyond by pmpope · · Score: 1

    -There's a man traveling across the desert towards the next town... He swats a buzzard off a cactus shaped signpost and stares at the hand painted number with an arrow...-

    Why not grab three machines>Fed Ex them to points along your path> take a heavy (rugged) one in the pack (Palm or other) and a two hundred page metal binder with three pens, three pencils, a leatherman all-in-one, camera and Zoom H2 and some vitamins and minerals, freeze dried foodstuffs, and do it already.

    -And when the hitchhiking no longer seemed an option I would travel through the night. Any idiot that walks out into the middle of a frying pan style microwave desert in the middle of the day is really asking for it. Heads up, Future Nomads, know the distance & the equidistance to the next rest area....-

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  198. "Portable" laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I second the comments on ditching the optical drive and loading up on flash memory, and if you plan to mail some home, I'd still hand-carry duplicates too.
    For a "laptop", the MOST I'd take is a Nokia N810 with a BlueTooth keyboard.

  199. Durabook by jforest1 · · Score: 1

    You traveling around the world and you're worried about not paying too much for the electronics?

    Try Durabook:
    http://www.durabook.com/jsp/index.jsp

    Cheap Option:
    Notebook

    --josh

  200. Everex SA2053 by lugannerd · · Score: 1

    I bought the Everex for $600 @ BB. Less than 4 lbs. Has optical DVD-R drive. Kinda made real cheap. But if it breaks not that big of a whoop. Very portable and so far has been durable for my limmited travels.

  201. Thinkpad X30, 3 months of hard backpacking travel by LF11 · · Score: 1

    I purchased a used ThinkPad X30 off eBay before a 3-month backpacking trip through Europe. My criteria was;

    * Cheap, so it would not break my heart if it were stolen
    * Old, so it's not an attractive theft target
    * Rugged, so it wouldn't break easily
    * Small and light, because it's on my back
    * Runs Linux (obviously)

    I've dropped this laptop multiple times from hip- and shoulder-height, even while it has been running. The abuse this thing has put up with is absolutely unbelievable.

    The only thing I can say is, put a piece of paper in between the keyboard and the screen (just a 8.5x11 sheet, or a paper towel or something). It will help keep the screen from getting impact damage when it does get dropped or slammed, and it will help keep finger grease off. This applies to any laptop.

    If I killed it now, I'd either replace it with another X30, or get an X60. X30s only have USB1, which is a considerable annoyance for me (you can't watch DVDs, external HDs are super slow, etcetera).

    Caveat emptor: none of the X series have CD or DVD drives! I got an external drive for mine, and it works fine on the rare occasion that I need it.

    Chris cej102937

  202. Cafes and Smoke. by Malkin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    One thing to be aware of, if you take the 'net cafe route, is that in some countries, you need a high cigarette smoke tolerance. This is improving in many countries, but not everywhere. They don't smoke wussy American cigarettes everywhere, either. A lot of places prefer much harsher stuff. If you have allergies, or other problems with smoke, definitely check out the situation wherever you're going, first.

    1. Re:Cafes and Smoke. by erice · · Score: 1

      Which countries are those? Even in Egypt, where they smoke heavily and everywhere, I never had problems in Internet cafes. Food cafes, sure but cyber cafes? No so much.

    2. Re:Cafes and Smoke. by Malkin · · Score: 1

      The last time I used 'net cafes extensively abroad, I was in Portugal, and I found myself sitting next to chain-smokers constantly. A little over a month ago, new restrictions went into effect, but given that the head of the enforcement agency was caught violating the law on the first day, I think it's fair to assume that enforcement is, as of yet, rather lax. I think I encountered 'net cafe smokers in Japan, as well, and I'm told it can be pretty darn smokey in the PC bangs in South Korea. I expect smoking to be less regulated in some developing countries. I don't know where mitbeaver is from, but it can be surprising to Americans, who aren't used to such ubiquitous smoking anymore.

  203. Asus EEE Notebook (solid state hd, $300) by AC5398 · · Score: 1

    http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=016825&cid=896

    Asus EEE Notebook. Solid state hard drive (2gb, 4gb, 8gb), linux preloaded. Light. Small. Comes in groovy colours. Prices in Cdn start at $300.

  204. Panasonic R-7 is... by gmiask · · Score: 1

    Far more durable than a Macbook Pro and you can run Leopard on it, just like any Intel machine. Apple hardware is overpriced, NOT durable (in comparison to a computer that can withstand tons of shock and being dropped without any problem), and a bad history of having the public do QA (c.f. the first Macbook's having a 20% failure rate; the first iPods fairing even worse) on the first releases of their products. 5% of MB Pro's still ship with major defects (case warping; display failure; etc. within 90 days of purchase) and Apple Care are very persistent in denying the existence of such problems by attributing them to "accidental damage" and silently fixing the problem in the following releases of their product lines. In fact, I was accused of having sat on my computer by a Mac Genius when the case on my MB Pro warped from overheating. In such circumstances, your best best is to file a BBB complaint as you are immediately thrown to the head of the pile for Apple Executive Relations, as opposed to dealing with the Apple Care fucks who are heartless and cold. They claim to have zero files for case warping on MB Pro's, even though tons of users have reported the defect with the product, and will persist in denying your warranty claim. My recommendation would be to buy a MB Pro following the latest product revision, if you decide to go down that route. A Panasonic R-7 is more than 2 pounds lighter, has more battery life and is far more durable. I don't see any point in buying Apple hardware if you can buy a computer that you can throw against a wall without any damage for the same price.

  205. Re:Also: LCD displays freeze and break. by adolf · · Score: 1

    Can you cite a reference?

    Otherwise, I'm wondering how on Earth LCDs seem to survive just fine being transported in unheated trucks by parcel carriers all manner of climate, or in the unpressurized hold of a cargo plane at 40k feet.

    Please enlighten.

  206. Re:Also: LCD displays freeze and break. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When will this myth of the unpressurized cargo hold disappear. It's not like Fed Ex and UPS are flying 141's and 130's. No, almost every aircraft used for commercial cargo is fully pressurized. How the hell do you think they move all that livestock around without it croaking not to mention all the other perishable and freeze intolerant cargo.

  207. Have you considered border confiscation? by troll · · Score: 1

    This might be a significant matter when entering or leaving certain countries.

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  208. Other Computer Things you Must Bring by cpaglee · · Score: 1

    Some other computer junk that you should bring which you will find invaluable if you are ever going to try and get on the Internet.

    1. High Gain Wifi Antenna. Hawking is a good brand. Great for borrowing Wifi access.
    2. 15' USB Extender Cable. This will let you locate the Hign Gain Wifi Antenna outside while you remain inside. Also work well as rope in some situations. Goto Pricewatch.com to find them.
    3. USB to Ethernet adapter. These things are tiny, light and incredibly convenient for those few times when wired Ethernet is available.
    4. The best camera: Fujifilm FinePix F50 FD. Just over $200. Takes great pictures, even in the dark.
    5. Lots of 2GB SD Cards. They cost $11 each at pricewatch.com to find them. Carrying many avoids pain if you lose a single card. Also about the same price as 4GB or 8GB.
    6. SD to USB adapter. Very cheap on pricewatch. Worth its weight in gold when you are in an Internet cafe and want to mail some pictures back home.
    7. Laptop cable lock. And then get in the habit of locking your laptop everywhere you go, even in hotels where you think you will be safe.
    8. PacSafe wire mesh backpack mesh or wire mesh knapsack.

    I would also probably go with the eepc just because it is cheap. If you are worried about not having an English version of the OS with you burn it on an SD card and carry it with you.

    Jealous. Have Fun. Smile a lot - its the one language everybody understands.

  209. iPod as your hard disk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get an iPod with a very large hard disk. In fact, maybe get two. Put all your photos on the iPods, and keep at least one on your person at all times.

    Apple sell a converter that plugs in to an iPod and lets you save photos from a card. Or, if you can get an XO laptop or something, you could use that to transfer the photos to the iPod.

    But for small and light, affordable, durable, and long battery life hard disk storage, one can't beat an iPod.

    And you can even use it to listen to music.

    For mailing home your best photos, use SD cards. You can get a 2GB SD card for $20 now. But keep every single photo you take, on the hard disk of an iPod.