I think the important thing to note here is that people are going to have to look at your software subcontracting more closely... there's allways some subcontractors who try to rip you off, duh! that's business...
certainly if you are subcontracting some software development you want it in writing that there will be no bugs, or a specified number and impact of such bugs, and who will take care of those bugs...
as far as more broadbased software (like Linux, Windoze, MS Office) this isn't a bad thing necessarily... otherwise software companies (and the FSF) could get sued into the ground!
so we should stop maintaining a product once something new and better is on it's way? gee i wonder what other products that happened to...
seriously, one of the reasons that linux is great is that there is a good amount of maintinance and increasing stability in the 2.0 series... (that's why this is flamebait!!!)
NT 3.5 is still used in a few places because of security probs in 4.0. I know a few ppl who wish it was maintained as well as linux 2.0. now don't make me make another microsoft comparison again!
Here's their online store. You pay $250, sign up for Earthlink and hold your earthlink account until you get the $200 rebate check. But I bet they'll start to delay the rebate checks while this is going on;-)
The "use your own ISP" option looks interesting. That's what I'd do if I were going to use this thing, but then I don't know how you'd go about canceling it (you could say that you canceled your service and the box was useless to you)
What a gamble... better business model than the i-opener because they can just screw ppl out of their rebate checks if something like this happens... then the company gets sued, but all the while they've got your cash and are making more!
I'm very impressed with the Empeg's player tho. They're coming out with a 2nd version with lots of nifty stuff.
USB, 10bT ethernet, a better design and interface and as you mentioned, voice control.
(having trouble accessing your site... host not found) If you could make an affordable and easily removable car mp3 player with USB and Ethernet and a remote that would be enough to convince me... but voice control would be damn cool too!
I'm considering my first car and right now an mp3 player looks just a bit more attractive than a 6 cd changer.
What would really sell your product is a slot loadable mp3 cd player. You can skimp on the HD then too (maybe none)! Finally 11Mbit wireless ethernet capability... perhaps a PCMCIA slot on the front! then you could use all sorts of media (SM/CF that standard handheld mp3 players use! or iomega click, sony memory stick (is there a PC card mem sick reader?), and wireless ethernet cards among other goodies)
If your product had all that I'd almost be willing to pay the full $1500 for it!
My wife and I started shopping around for a digicam around newyears. We looked for the highest resolution and the greatest flexability.
We chose the Olympus C-2500L, an SLR camera that accepts hotshoe flash and a few custom olympus lenses for wide angle and zoom.
We haven't had a need for many accessories yet. We found it for $1200 with a 32MB SM card and just recently got a usb SM/CF/ATAPC reader with a 48MB CF for under $200.
Now with 80MB we can get 40 1712x1368 images, or 137 1280x1024, or over 600 640x480's. If we ever need physical prints it would be well worth the cost to go to kinkos or the computer labs at school and make some glossy prints. It's not much more expensive than having regular film developed.
I think it's much easier to have the option between hundreds of images so that you can pick and choose new ones as you're taking them. A fair processing job is just a few photoshop filters away. (and better compression gets those huge 2.5 gigapixel images down to 275k)
The only drawback to having our olympus rather than a semiprofessional film camera is the lack of lens varieties and filling up our hard drives with cat pictures. With a digital camera you're never afraid to take a pic, you can always delete it later or take another if the first isn't perfect.
If you're seriously interested in photogrophy I think you'll probably recover the cost of a camera like the 2500 and accessories in film savings.
The proffits are going to *charity*. The content is ALL available online allready!
What reason would they have to package this in any format other than print? It's allready available and probably more complete (full comments) than the book!
Sorry, but it's just not reasonable to any degree for them to spend more time making a special PDF archive of a dippy John Katz book.
Sure Katz might not deserve a nobell prize for this one, but it's his job. Ja know, that thing that people grow up and get?... and I doubt he'll net any proffit as he probably draws some kind of salary from Andover.
Slashdot doesn't suck because of lame columnists, it sucks because of lame posters. The posters made slashdot what it is, and we've also contributed much more to its decline than any long winded writers.
So I should just copy/paste every article into a/. post and I'd rack up the point? The new quick n' easy way to become a karma whore!</i><p>
by all means if you're a karma whore... but where it's actually useful is when it's something that could be slashdotted or taken down for "stealing IP"... like someone posting the crucial parts of decss...
Is decoding password hashes really a big deal? I never thought they were supposed to be that airtight.
supposedly yes... DES isn't tho... but MD5 passwords (in all latest linux distros) are much easier to do a brute force search thru than try to reverse the MD5 hash... which should be the point right?
easier to read... extrans rob! make extrans work!
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someone posted the code a half page above my post (here, but for some stupid reason it was moderated down... and he forgot to use <pre>
I think they recommented the code making it easier to understand
It's even got a modest execution time... (largest loop -- while (rot--){...} -- rot is max 127 -- rot=(...)%128;) nothin too complex there...
Why not blowfish or some other BSD licensed stuff???
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Perhaps like people who had invested in standard oil they will reap the bennefits of not just one proffitable company, but 3-5 proffitable and fast growing companies.
I don't see people losing money on Microsoft now or for a long time.
Can you immagine what Dynamo and Code Morphing technology can do for the Linux Kernel? Faster emulators, faster code, and _better_use_of_existing_hardware_!!!! MMX acceleration for everything (theoretically), because it's in the kernel!
The holy grail of linux is how well it works with legacy hardware, why not make it even better?
So who's going to take the reigns of this puppy? Put it on the bill for the 2.5 series! (or 3.0?)
Some of the core cirriculum here at <a href="http://www.eecs.wsu.edu">WSU</a> is Comp. Sci. <a href="http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/~cs360/">360</a> and <a href="http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/~cs460/">460</a>. As you can see from the web pages (check out "project specifications") you basically write a minix-liek OS here. In 360 you learn fundamentals of unix and get to code a shell, filesystem, and file management stuff. In 460 you do the rest of the fundamentals. When I took 360 last semester there wasn't any of this NT Visual Studios BS. Oh well, they move with the times and students here start using MS Dev Studio from 250 on... it's probably one of the few MS producs that I am satisfied with
360 and 460 sound like the coures that somone posted down below about "here at CMU we... blah blah blah we're so great blah blahhhh..." but really you can probably get the same thing from any CS department in the top 25, so don't put yourself in too much debt getting there! [arrogant voice] here at *WSU* we use cheap ass Pentium class processors and learn x86 assembly, screw your commercial unix... practically all our labs run linux now[/arrogant voice]
Dr. Wang kicks butt, so does Hagemeister, Rounds, and probably a few I haven't taken. There are some really tough proffs that teach theory too (one is my advisor). Who just about drive students MAD, but now that I'm getting up in the cirriculum to where I can start to consider going for my MS they really don't seem that bad... they just happen to be bad teachers and a bit too demanding for most people's tastes...
check out the comp sci requirements <a href="http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/web_main/programs/pr ograms.html">here</a> if you're interested in any of the other classes and where they fit in.
Hey, hey... but as you might realize linux isn't anything new! AT&T did it first...
I don't think it's so much about hardware vs. software, but REVOLUTIONARY technology vs. MUNDANE technology.
You see the linux core for all intents and purposes of the cutting edge isn't really revolutionary, and it doesn't NEED to be! Now every other OS has a journaling file system, ok let's build one for linux. Firewalling, ip chains, etc etc... I'm not a hard core linux developer so I'm party speaking from ignorance, but does ANYONE know of a significant technological advance that linux has spearheaded??
So ReiserFS is pretty kewl, and xscreensaver kicks ass. Bash is a masterpiece and mozilla is on it's way in. There are hundreds or maybe thousands of extremely high quality pieces of ART that the free software community has produced. But there's nothign revolutionary about it.
Now we've got the brains behind it... and we're making steady progress... so what happens when one of us makes up something EXTAORDINARY?! Do we give it away for free and be so do we take Metcalfe's stereotype of the Open Source community and say: "for the greater good i give up all my worldly posessions so that someone can exploit me"???
No! we do what anyone convinced that they have produced a genuine invention would do: develop it in secret, patent it once it works, sell it to the highest bidder (or market it yourself), all the while integrating support for Linux and maybe even giving them a free lisence for it!
In 8 to 12 years when you've made your fortune and your utillity patent is up for renewel, you let it expire. And hey, don't forget that patents aren't incompatable with the GPL! Hey you could GPL your patented invention and have a legal double-whammy for anyone who violates your patent!!!
Hey, if RT-Linux is revolutionary, or if code morphing is really revolutionary (sounds just a bit like a beefy emulator/finer grained scheduler on a better CPU, but I can't honestly know if it was that original or not), or if some little project i'm workin on happens to light a fire under whatever market it's viable in and we patent our inventions... this does not mean that we're sellouts!
We know how hemos, CmdrTaco, and Roblimo feel about geek girls, but we haven't ever heard a related story from JonKatz. Given your traditional stance against all the western social problems one would think you'd have a few interesting things to say.
this is all about freedom of speech, we all have the power to vote with our browsers...
we can go and read, or not read what these people have to say...
we can all go and flame the webmasters, or flame their discussion groups or complain to their service providers...
we have the right to choose who we host on our free/nonprofessional sites and what to say on our websites...
I think it's an ok thing for there to be a thousand neo-nazi sites, and it is the perrogative of those of us who think differently to point out why these lines of reasoning are wrong...
to completely squealch any speech type in the public forum is unjust (but this does not include squealching speech in a specific forum)
actually this kind of a theory has theological merrit, there is a simmilar traditional theory called "Process Theodicy" (i forget who the authors are)
my adaptation of process theodicy is that "god" is simply an innate force in the universe to perpetuate self-organizing systems that oppose entropy, thereby extending the life of "god"/the universe... you see (s)he's just doing what (s)he can to stay alive!
therefore if you accept this theodicy god is in all things, as well as transcending them... very simmilar to the popular christian theodicy of the "holy spirit"...
it's more of a rational moderate approach that I think most people could accept...
there's a lot further that you can go with this sort of a theory... heck if I was going for an MA in phillosophy rather than an MS in CS it would probably be my thesis...
(p.s. follow my URL for other theological ideas surrounding this one)
We have ethernet in our appartment complex near campus (wsu - #1 most wired state university).
It is more expensive than any other place around, and untill now the only draw (not for me, for other students) was the insane parties.
Now if only our network wasn't poorly maintained and run by M$ software, not to mention 100+ users on one T1 (still better than oversold local DSL).
And hey... 100+ on a T1 is better than 25000+ on 4 T1's!!! (the dorms' current staple). Besides that the school has to fight some stupid burrocratic network called K-20 net... sure UW has it nice, but we're fed by their bandwidth... so we get the short end of that stick!
When we move out after we graduate a T1-T3 connection is just about prerequisite to any living arrangements. (heck, I'd gladly manage the lan for free to make sure it's done right!)
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Athiests also want people to base decisions on things like cloning and genetic research with logical thought, not religion.... Hopefully in a few thousand years humanity will look back on athiests as saviors of the human intellect
You assume that the religious perspective is invalid. This is an error of reason. All things are not equal with reguard to many religious questions.
Religious nihalists as yourself have made little ground in convincing the world that the notion of religion, spirituality, etc has no merrit.
Science is not the sole domain of reason and evangelism is not the sole realm of religion.
Slashdot Mirror
and if you play games like this, you'll end up LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!
ahahaha, if anything deserves the prize that does!
I think the important thing to note here is that people are going to have to look at your software subcontracting more closely... there's allways some subcontractors who try to rip you off, duh! that's business...
certainly if you are subcontracting some software development you want it in writing that there will be no bugs, or a specified number and impact of such bugs, and who will take care of those bugs...
as far as more broadbased software (like Linux, Windoze, MS Office) this isn't a bad thing necessarily... otherwise software companies (and the FSF) could get sued into the ground!
seriously, one of the reasons that linux is great is that there is a good amount of maintinance and increasing stability in the 2.0 series... (that's why this is flamebait!!!)
NT 3.5 is still used in a few places because of security probs in 4.0. I know a few ppl who wish it was maintained as well as linux 2.0. now don't make me make another microsoft comparison again!
The "use your own ISP" option looks interesting. That's what I'd do if I were going to use this thing, but then I don't know how you'd go about canceling it (you could say that you canceled your service and the box was useless to you)
What a gamble... better business model than the i-opener because they can just screw ppl out of their rebate checks if something like this happens... then the company gets sued, but all the while they've got your cash and are making more!
Here's the url to buy it.
USB, 10bT ethernet, a better design and interface and as you mentioned, voice control.
(having trouble accessing your site... host not found) If you could make an affordable and easily removable car mp3 player with USB and Ethernet and a remote that would be enough to convince me... but voice control would be damn cool too!
I'm considering my first car and right now an mp3 player looks just a bit more attractive than a 6 cd changer.
What would really sell your product is a slot loadable mp3 cd player. You can skimp on the HD then too (maybe none)! Finally 11Mbit wireless ethernet capability... perhaps a PCMCIA slot on the front! then you could use all sorts of media (SM/CF that standard handheld mp3 players use! or iomega click, sony memory stick (is there a PC card mem sick reader?), and wireless ethernet cards among other goodies)
If your product had all that I'd almost be willing to pay the full $1500 for it!
My wife and I started shopping around for a digicam around newyears. We looked for the highest resolution and the greatest flexability.
We chose the Olympus C-2500L, an SLR camera that accepts hotshoe flash and a few custom olympus lenses for wide angle and zoom.
We haven't had a need for many accessories yet. We found it for $1200 with a 32MB SM card and just recently got a usb SM/CF/ATAPC reader with a 48MB CF for under $200.
Now with 80MB we can get 40 1712x1368 images, or 137 1280x1024, or over 600 640x480's. If we ever need physical prints it would be well worth the cost to go to kinkos or the computer labs at school and make some glossy prints. It's not much more expensive than having regular film developed.
I think it's much easier to have the option between hundreds of images so that you can pick and choose new ones as you're taking them. A fair processing job is just a few photoshop filters away. (and better compression gets those huge 2.5 gigapixel images down to 275k)
The only drawback to having our olympus rather than a semiprofessional film camera is the lack of lens varieties and filling up our hard drives with cat pictures. With a digital camera you're never afraid to take a pic, you can always delete it later or take another if the first isn't perfect.
If you're seriously interested in photogrophy I think you'll probably recover the cost of a camera like the 2500 and accessories in film savings.
The proffits are going to *charity*. The content is ALL available online allready!
What reason would they have to package this in any format other than print? It's allready available and probably more complete (full comments) than the book!
Sorry, but it's just not reasonable to any degree for them to spend more time making a special PDF archive of a dippy John Katz book.
Sure Katz might not deserve a nobell prize for this one, but it's his job. Ja know, that thing that people grow up and get? ... and I doubt he'll net any proffit as he probably draws some kind of salary from Andover.
Slashdot doesn't suck because of lame columnists, it sucks because of lame posters. The posters made slashdot what it is, and we've also contributed much more to its decline than any long winded writers.
So I should just copy/paste every article into a /. post and I'd rack up the point? The new quick n' easy way to become a karma whore!</i><p>
by all means if you're a karma whore... but where it's actually useful is when it's something that could be slashdotted or taken down for "stealing IP"... like someone posting the crucial parts of decss...
supposedly yes... DES isn't tho... but MD5 passwords (in all latest linux distros) are much easier to do a brute force search thru than try to reverse the MD5 hash... which should be the point right?
I think they recommented the code making it easier to understand
someone posted the code a half page above my post (s e.c">code</a> making it easier to understand<p>
I think they recommented the <a href="http://www.i-opener-linux.net/decrypt/rever
more like Score:2, Informative
i hate moderators who don't read the details
It's even got a modest execution time... (largest loop -- while (rot--){...} -- rot is max 127 -- rot=(...)%128;) nothin too complex there...
Why not blowfish or some other BSD licensed stuff???
Perhaps like people who had invested in standard oil they will reap the bennefits of not just one proffitable company, but 3-5 proffitable and fast growing companies.
I don't see people losing money on Microsoft now or for a long time.
Wouldn't that be absolutely kick ass?
Can you immagine what Dynamo and Code Morphing technology can do for the Linux Kernel? Faster emulators, faster code, and _better_use_of_existing_hardware_!!!! MMX acceleration for everything (theoretically), because it's in the kernel!
The holy grail of linux is how well it works with legacy hardware, why not make it even better?
So who's going to take the reigns of this puppy? Put it on the bill for the 2.5 series! (or 3.0?)
what part of "html extrans" does Slashdot not understand anymore?!?!?!
MINIX MINIX MINIX! aka DIY Operating System
r ograms.html">here</a> if you're interested in any of the other classes and where they fit in.
Some of the core cirriculum here at <a href="http://www.eecs.wsu.edu">WSU</a> is Comp. Sci. <a href="http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/~cs360/">360</a> and <a href="http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/~cs460/">460</a>. As you can see from the web pages (check out "project specifications") you basically write a minix-liek OS here. In 360 you learn fundamentals of unix and get to code a shell, filesystem, and file management stuff. In 460 you do the rest of the fundamentals. When I took 360 last semester there wasn't any of this NT Visual Studios BS. Oh well, they move with the times and students here start using MS Dev Studio from 250 on... it's probably one of the few MS producs that I am satisfied with
360 and 460 sound like the coures that somone posted down below about "here at CMU we... blah blah blah we're so great blah blahhhh..." but really you can probably get the same thing from any CS department in the top 25, so don't put yourself in too much debt getting there! [arrogant voice] here at *WSU* we use cheap ass Pentium class processors and learn x86 assembly, screw your commercial unix... practically all our labs run linux now[/arrogant voice]
Dr. Wang kicks butt, so does Hagemeister, Rounds, and probably a few I haven't taken. There are some really tough proffs that teach theory too (one is my advisor). Who just about drive students MAD, but now that I'm getting up in the cirriculum to where I can start to consider going for my MS they really don't seem that bad... they just happen to be bad teachers and a bit too demanding for most people's tastes...
check out the comp sci requirements <a href="http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/web_main/programs/p
I don't think it's so much about hardware vs. software, but REVOLUTIONARY technology vs. MUNDANE technology.
You see the linux core for all intents and purposes of the cutting edge isn't really revolutionary, and it doesn't NEED to be! Now every other OS has a journaling file system, ok let's build one for linux. Firewalling, ip chains, etc etc... I'm not a hard core linux developer so I'm party speaking from ignorance, but does ANYONE know of a significant technological advance that linux has spearheaded??
So ReiserFS is pretty kewl, and xscreensaver kicks ass. Bash is a masterpiece and mozilla is on it's way in. There are hundreds or maybe thousands of extremely high quality pieces of ART that the free software community has produced. But there's nothign revolutionary about it.
Now we've got the brains behind it... and we're making steady progress... so what happens when one of us makes up something EXTAORDINARY?! Do we give it away for free and be so do we take Metcalfe's stereotype of the Open Source community and say: "for the greater good i give up all my worldly posessions so that someone can exploit me"???
No! we do what anyone convinced that they have produced a genuine invention would do: develop it in secret, patent it once it works, sell it to the highest bidder (or market it yourself), all the while integrating support for Linux and maybe even giving them a free lisence for it!
In 8 to 12 years when you've made your fortune and your utillity patent is up for renewel, you let it expire. And hey, don't forget that patents aren't incompatable with the GPL! Hey you could GPL your patented invention and have a legal double-whammy for anyone who violates your patent!!!
Hey, if RT-Linux is revolutionary, or if code morphing is really revolutionary (sounds just a bit like a beefy emulator/finer grained scheduler on a better CPU, but I can't honestly know if it was that original or not), or if some little project i'm workin on happens to light a fire under whatever market it's viable in and we patent our inventions... this does not mean that we're sellouts!
if Metcalfe posted on slashdot:
Re:Crusoe Code Morphing (Score:-1, Troll)
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(User Info) http://www.infoworld.com/op inions/morefromtheether.html
Nah, nah, OPEN SORES!!! Linus Torvalds Naked and Petrified eating goat cheeze and being a hyppocrite!!!
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Notice, I didn't say "GIRLS FOR GEEKS", I said "Geek Girls". i.e. a girl like me...
I am in fact hoping that Jon will provide us with an enlightened response, as he hasn't yet.
Sexbots or no, it's possible that he'll produce more insight than some others here.
We know how hemos, CmdrTaco, and Roblimo feel about geek girls, but we haven't ever heard a related story from JonKatz. Given your traditional stance against all the western social problems one would think you'd have a few interesting things to say.
this is all about freedom of speech, we all have the power to vote with our browsers...
we can go and read, or not read what these people have to say...
we can all go and flame the webmasters, or flame their discussion groups or complain to their service providers...
we have the right to choose who we host on our free/nonprofessional sites and what to say on our websites...
I think it's an ok thing for there to be a thousand neo-nazi sites, and it is the perrogative of those of us who think differently to point out why these lines of reasoning are wrong...
to completely squealch any speech type in the public forum is unjust (but this does not include squealching speech in a specific forum)
actually this kind of a theory has theological merrit, there is a simmilar traditional theory called "Process Theodicy" (i forget who the authors are)
my adaptation of process theodicy is that "god" is simply an innate force in the universe to perpetuate self-organizing systems that oppose entropy, thereby extending the life of "god"/the universe... you see (s)he's just doing what (s)he can to stay alive!
therefore if you accept this theodicy god is in all things, as well as transcending them... very simmilar to the popular christian theodicy of the "holy spirit"...
it's more of a rational moderate approach that I think most people could accept...
there's a lot further that you can go with this sort of a theory... heck if I was going for an MA in phillosophy rather than an MS in CS it would probably be my thesis...
(p.s. follow my URL for other theological ideas surrounding this one)
We have ethernet in our appartment complex near campus (wsu - #1 most wired state university).
It is more expensive than any other place around, and untill now the only draw (not for me, for other students) was the insane parties.
Now if only our network wasn't poorly maintained and run by M$ software, not to mention 100+ users on one T1 (still better than oversold local DSL).
And hey... 100+ on a T1 is better than 25000+ on 4 T1's!!! (the dorms' current staple). Besides that the school has to fight some stupid burrocratic network called K-20 net... sure UW has it nice, but we're fed by their bandwidth... so we get the short end of that stick!
When we move out after we graduate a T1-T3 connection is just about prerequisite to any living arrangements. (heck, I'd gladly manage the lan for free to make sure it's done right!)
Athiests also want people to base decisions on things like cloning and genetic research with logical thought, not religion.... Hopefully in a few thousand years humanity will look back on athiests as saviors of the human intellect
You assume that the religious perspective is invalid. This is an error of reason. All things are not equal with reguard to many religious questions.
Religious nihalists as yourself have made little ground in convincing the world that the notion of religion, spirituality, etc has no merrit.
Science is not the sole domain of reason and evangelism is not the sole realm of religion.