He is a VP afterall. I am glad that he took the time out to answer questions and it appears that his answers have been thought out and written well, but he just sems to be missing the point.
The decoupling of IE from Windows question pretty much sealed it for me. I do not care how much money you make being a VP, if you have ANY clue at all about programming and/or security, embedding the browser into the OS is a bad idea. And the excuse that the email client needs it is just a joke.
MS does not care about security if they did they would get someone who actually understood the real problem to do the work.
The truth is that games break all the rules. Global variables are fine in games and necessary in most cases for performance.
So with that said, write your own routines to dump what you need to disk. Do not just dump memory. It will break when you make a new version of the game that needs to save more information.
It is called ask slashdot for a reason moron. Maybe this dude did not even know what to search for to start with! I have not heard of DarIce or Slim Devices and I would not have known what either was based on the name. Take a chill. Have a merry fuckin Christmas.
Debian matters nothing. Let the zealots run old code and live happily. I cannot believe this is posted on the front page. I can see it now. Debian rejects breathing as not free. F**K Debian.
I second that... hell we should not run linux on any computer where we cannot have an open source bios.
Debian has to be the biggest bunch of holier than thou morons... why would you intentionally make it hard on the user of your software to get something done?
And I am not even trying to troll on this. It is a valid question. There is no good reason to do this other than a few zealots who are SO out of touch with the rest of the world.
If I was using Debian in a commercial setting that required the use of one of the "bad" drivers... what would my choices be? Stop my business until the "evil" drivers magically become open source? No I tell you what I would do... I would switch distros or even worse jump to Windows where the damn things are supported and probably already work. Debian is doing nothing but causing problems just because they can.
OEMs already have the right under the federal settlement to add Java if they chose. They also have the right under the same settlementto remove components they don't want to ship.
I am not sure what rock you are living under but MS has still not done anything to help this. AFAIK the PC maker (dell, gateway...) are still bowing under Microsoft's thumb. Though I do remember where one of them shipped FreeDOS with PC's to satisfy MS unfair contracts.
And even more importantly the problem is not with Java but MS screwed up half witted implementation. The security problems with the MS VM are long and well documented.
The damage has already been done. Your post is proof. You believe the crap that MS is feeding you. Java on the server is fine and Java on the client is fine too.
I do think you are right about the fact that you will not see that much changes over this. Your average web developer who already is competent with flash will not change. I wouldn't.
It does help people like me who have to work with the VM from MS and their really BAD OLD version of Java.
Sorry but RMS is not even in the same league. He complains and whines and ruins any credit he deserves.
RMS has done a lot do not get me wrong, emacs rules. And he has contributed many things to open source. However he has a socialist vision of programming and wants programmers to beg for a living. IMHO he is no saint. He is a poster child for open source that I do not want on my poster.
It really isn't a question of using templates to their potential. I have read through the Modern C++ Design book a bit and I am amazed at what you can do with templates.
I am very hesitant to trust templates in large production code. Really that comes more from bad implementations (MS) but it also comes from the notion that I can write faster code myself. Even with the casts. I know that this statement flys in the face of reuse but there are quite a few people like me who do not think that OO has really helped with reuse that much. I still copy and paste and so do a lot of the coders that I know. Too deep of an inheritance tree will bring a lot of baggage and even worse sometimes undocumented baggage.
Java does not really "need" templates so much I think. Maybe better casting syntax like C++. I really like the static_cast syntax better than the parens... really just easier on the eyes to be honest.
The interesting thing about templates is to see how is it implemented. Did they break compatibility with existing JVM instructions? That is the interesting part. I think that you could implment templates without any changes to the underlying JVM and make the compiler do the work.
Anyway it will be interesting but I would rather see Java go open source more than see templates brought into an already powerful language.
Or mine either. I get so much freakin spam at work it is not funny. We have Spam Assasin (I think) and it fails miserably on about 10% of all my mail. Which 10% does not sound like much but it adds up.
Both parties will end up having a field day with this. Both parties are at fault... I would like to see more republican bashing myself but that is just me.
Both sides of the fence should get heat from this. If they do not then America is asleep.
I agree... I have a reasonable amount of experience with Slackware, Redhat, and linux from scratch and I could not get debian installed on my first try. I am probably not the best case but I would not give anyone debian to start with... The packages are all behind but that is by design so you cannot fault that. It is just hard to install. I think if they get a better install debian would be a great choice and I will try it again.
I used it not too long ago. I had an old laptop that was very underpowered. I found minix and ran it for a while to see how it worked. Great operating system, great book and really fun to play with.
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Problem is that it is the OLD (ahem) 1.5 something python. I want to use quark but it has the old python and I have the new python already installed... not sure how well those two will play... if they will play at all.
Joe says I am a whiner (maybe) and I do usually try to check the license when I am working with other folks libraries.
I have found that a lot of people I have contacted have not been very helpful with license issues to be honest. I know that I have only done this a few times but a lot people spew the GPL rhetoric like fanatics... I want free and open software too but I want to be able to sell programs (sometimes not always) too.
So I really do think that GPL is viral. It can hinder your development unless the author of the code is willing to work with you. And I am sure that happens quite a bit.
Maybe viral is not the best word for the license since there is some negative energy in that word... more like a "replicating" license... something like that... since I am pathetic I probably am not the one to make up a new term for the GPL license.
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It is a strange hard balance of using good free code like GNU code (gcc, flex, bison, emacs... etc) and still being able to make money at it.
no reverse engineering, Reverse engineering is really illegal by the DMCA. Sad but true.
If you don't like the GPL license, then DON'T USE GPL'ed code in the software you right; keep any GPL'ed code at an arms length from your code. If you choose to include GPL'ed code in your software and distribute it, then you agree to the GPL license and have to distribute your source code under the GPL. There's no trickery involved, you idiot.
The problem is not trickery (idiot), the problem is that I could use only one small function from a set of GPL source and then according to the lic. I would end up having to release all of my code under the same shitty lic.
You are the idiot if you cannot see that this is viral. I have had to work around the GPL before with products that I have created and it is a pain. In most cases I took your advice I replaced the offending GPL code and put in my code... and in almost all of those cases I would have preferred to have left the GPL code and given the author credit. But that is not possible with GPL.
Hopefully enough people will realize how useless the GPL really is and start using other lic.
Ooh aren't you lucky... you can get over the air crap. Most of the national networks (NBC, ABC,...) broadcast crap! Which is where your local stations get their content. News in HD is still news. There are very few shows on with any content that are worth watching. You should be happy in know that while you have spent 8 to 10 thousand dollars to watch network TV I have been doing it on a much smaller cheaper set just as happily.
HD is wasteful issue driven by Hollywood and furthered by high end idiots who are unknowingly driving the machine.
The government or Hollywood can kiss my ass about telling when and where to upgrade my TV. When GW comes and buys me a fancy new TV I will upgrade... other wise he and the FCC can suck my ass!!!!
Don't worry about it until RMS starts whining about how Linux... oh wait I mean to say GNU/Linux is GPL'd and how United Linux is the devil for having a closed beta.
It is a sad statement when the only/. news is the purist fuck rods complaining about not being able to see beta code... I think UL should just tar everything they do everyday and put it up on the web for RMS and all of the rest of the elite gods of programming can read all the source code and figure out what they have or haven't changed.
Truly the open source community is led by a hyrda of morons. No wonder people think we are freaks.
I think that there is something morally wrong here also though. Holding patents and then waiting for a good time to sue is something akin to domain squatting maybe?
Anyway I thinking about getting a patent on breathing... I am pretty sure I thought that up first.
Scraping web pages for data is practical and useful in some cases but I would not use it for "production" data. I have been somewhat involved with a company that is wanting to scrape data from another site. The problem is that you are relying on someone else to not change their web site. Which is just bad no matter how you look at it. I would not base a business on it.
I guess if you cannot figure out how to open the tgz file in Windows, it is probably better that you are not trying to install SAP. Natural selection is a wonderful thing.
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He is a VP afterall. I am glad that he took the time out to answer questions and it appears that his answers have been thought out and written well, but he just sems to be missing the point.
The decoupling of IE from Windows question pretty much sealed it for me. I do not care how much money you make being a VP, if you have ANY clue at all about programming and/or security, embedding the browser into the OS is a bad idea. And the excuse that the email client needs it is just a joke.
MS does not care about security if they did they would get someone who actually understood the real problem to do the work.
The truth is that games break all the rules. Global variables are fine in games and necessary in most cases for performance.
So with that said, write your own routines to dump what you need to disk. Do not just dump memory. It will break when you make a new version of the game that needs to save more information.
It is called ask slashdot for a reason moron. Maybe this dude did not even know what to search for to start with! I have not heard of DarIce or Slim Devices and I would not have known what either was based on the name. Take a chill. Have a merry fuckin Christmas.
Debian matters nothing. Let the zealots run old code and live happily. I cannot believe this is posted on the front page. I can see it now. Debian rejects breathing as not free. F**K Debian.
I second that... hell we should not run linux on any computer where we cannot have an open source bios.
Debian has to be the biggest bunch of holier than thou morons... why would you intentionally make it hard on the user of your software to get something done?
And I am not even trying to troll on this. It is a valid question. There is no good reason to do this other than a few zealots who are SO out of touch with the rest of the world.
If I was using Debian in a commercial setting that required the use of one of the "bad" drivers... what would my choices be? Stop my business until the "evil" drivers magically become open source? No I tell you what I would do... I would switch distros or even worse jump to Windows where the damn things are supported and probably already work.
Debian is doing nothing but causing problems just because they can.
Rail guns kick ass!
OEMs already have the right under the federal settlement to add Java if they chose. They also have the right under the same settlementto remove components they don't want to ship.
I am not sure what rock you are living under but MS has still not done anything to help this. AFAIK the PC maker (dell, gateway...) are still bowing under Microsoft's thumb. Though I do remember where one of them shipped FreeDOS with PC's to satisfy MS unfair contracts.
And even more importantly the problem is not with Java but MS screwed up half witted implementation. The security problems with the MS VM are long and well documented.
The damage has already been done. Your post is proof. You believe the crap that MS is feeding you. Java on the server is fine and Java on the client is fine too.
I do think you are right about the fact that you will not see that much changes over this. Your average web developer who already is competent with flash will not change. I wouldn't.
It does help people like me who have to work with the VM from MS and their really BAD OLD version of Java.
At least the ruling will help some.
Sorry but RMS is not even in the same league. He complains and whines and ruins any credit he deserves.
RMS has done a lot do not get me wrong, emacs rules. And he has contributed many things to open source. However he has a socialist vision of programming and wants programmers to beg for a living. IMHO he is no saint. He is a poster child for open source that I do not want on my poster.
It really isn't a question of using templates to their potential. I have read through the Modern C++ Design book a bit and I am amazed at what you can do with templates.
I am very hesitant to trust templates in large production code. Really that comes more from bad implementations (MS) but it also comes from the notion that I can write faster code myself. Even with the casts. I know that this statement flys in the face of reuse but there are quite a few people like me who do not think that OO has really helped with reuse that much. I still copy and paste and so do a lot of the coders that I know. Too deep of an inheritance tree will bring a lot of baggage and even worse sometimes undocumented baggage.
Java does not really "need" templates so much I think. Maybe better casting syntax like C++. I really like the static_cast syntax better than the parens... really just easier on the eyes to be honest.
The interesting thing about templates is to see how is it implemented. Did they break compatibility with existing JVM instructions? That is the interesting part. I think that you could implment templates without any changes to the underlying JVM and make the compiler do the work.
Anyway it will be interesting but I would rather see Java go open source more than see templates brought into an already powerful language.
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Or mine either. I get so much freakin spam at work it is not funny. We have Spam Assasin (I think) and it fails miserably on about 10% of all my mail. Which 10% does not sound like much but it adds up.
Both parties will end up having a field day with this. Both parties are at fault... I would like to see more republican bashing myself but that is just me.
Both sides of the fence should get heat from this. If they do not then America is asleep.
I agree... I have a reasonable amount of experience with Slackware, Redhat, and linux from scratch and I could not get debian installed on my first try. I am probably not the best case but I would not give anyone debian to start with... The packages are all behind but that is by design so you cannot fault that. It is just hard to install. I think if they get a better install debian would be a great choice and I will try it again.
I used it not too long ago. I had an old laptop that was very underpowered. I found minix and ran it for a while to see how it worked. Great operating system, great book and really fun to play with.
Problem is that it is the OLD (ahem) 1.5 something python. I want to use quark but it has the old python and I have the new python already installed... not sure how well those two will play... if they will play at all.
Joe says I am a whiner (maybe) and I do usually try to check the license when I am working with other folks libraries.
I have found that a lot of people I have contacted have not been very helpful with license issues to be honest. I know that I have only done this a few times but a lot people spew the GPL rhetoric like fanatics... I want free and open software too but I want to be able to sell programs (sometimes not always) too.
So I really do think that GPL is viral. It can hinder your development unless the author of the code is willing to work with you. And I am sure that happens quite a bit.
Maybe viral is not the best word for the license since there is some negative energy in that word... more like a "replicating" license... something like that... since I am pathetic I probably am not the one to make up a new term for the GPL license.
Tone
It is a strange hard balance of using good free code like GNU code (gcc, flex, bison, emacs... etc) and still being able to make money at it.
no reverse engineering,
Reverse engineering is really illegal by the DMCA. Sad but true.
If you don't like the GPL license, then DON'T USE GPL'ed code in the software you right; keep any GPL'ed code at an arms length from your code. If you choose to include GPL'ed code in your software and distribute it, then you agree to the GPL license and have to distribute your source code under the GPL. There's no trickery involved, you idiot.
The problem is not trickery (idiot), the problem is that I could use only one small function from a set of GPL source and then according to the lic. I would end up having to release all of my code under the same shitty lic.
You are the idiot if you cannot see that this is viral. I have had to work around the GPL before with products that I have created and it is a pain. In most cases I took your advice I replaced the offending GPL code and put in my code... and in almost all of those cases I would have preferred to have left the GPL code and given the author credit. But that is not possible with GPL.
Hopefully enough people will realize how useless the GPL really is and start using other lic.
Maybe the whole thing will be windoze based...
"Uh hold on Mr. Terriorist we have to wait for it to reboot before you can get on the plane."
You are correct. I wish you had not been anonymous... I think that what you have said is really important and shows some thought.
Most open source projects are one man projects and really do not care about GPL...
Sorry to just put a "me too" post but you are correct.
Ooh aren't you lucky... you can get over the air crap. Most of the national networks (NBC, ABC,...) broadcast crap! Which is where your local stations get their content. News in HD is still news. There are very few shows on with any content that are worth watching. You should be happy in know that while you have spent 8 to 10 thousand dollars to watch network TV I have been doing it on a much smaller cheaper set just as happily.
HD is wasteful issue driven by Hollywood and furthered by high end idiots who are unknowingly driving the machine.
The government or Hollywood can kiss my ass about telling when and where to upgrade my TV. When GW comes and buys me a fancy new TV I will upgrade... other wise he and the FCC can suck my ass!!!!
Don't worry about it until RMS starts whining about how Linux... oh wait I mean to say GNU/Linux is GPL'd and how United Linux is the devil for having a closed beta.
/. news is the purist fuck rods complaining about not being able to see beta code... I think UL should just tar everything they do everyday and put it up on the web for RMS and all of the rest of the elite gods of programming can read all the source code and figure out what they have or haven't changed.
It is a sad statement when the only
Truly the open source community is led by a hyrda of morons. No wonder people think we are freaks.
You are right really. He does have a case.
I think that there is something morally wrong here also though. Holding patents and then waiting for a good time to sue is something akin to domain squatting maybe?
Anyway I thinking about getting a patent on breathing... I am pretty sure I thought that up first.
You are sorely wrong and obviously do not work any where for a living. I spend more time reading code than I ever will writing it.
And exactly what does this have to do with computer disposals?
Scraping web pages for data is practical and useful in some cases but I would not use it for "production" data. I have been somewhat involved with a company that is wanting to scrape data from another site. The problem is that you are relying on someone else to not change their web site. Which is just bad no matter how you look at it. I would not base a business on it.
Tone
Winzip will open tgz files.
I guess if you cannot figure out how to open the tgz file in Windows, it is probably better that you are not trying to install SAP. Natural selection is a wonderful thing.