Once MacOS X is released, this may spell the death of linuxppc and the sheepsaver port. Why install linux when you have a free robust BSD to run your GNU tools on?
As any fool would tell you, this would mean the data has to be compressed from an *encrypted* video source. Compression works best if the content is regular as opposed to random, which is exactly what an encrypted source would give you. IOW, i doubt a full-length Matrix will fit on a DVD.
The best place, as been mentioned many times before in slashdot and advised by RSA would be to compress *and then* encrypt, which would be:
DATA --> DECRYPT --> UNCOMPRESS --> DISPLAY
My guess, in the final draft it would end up like this:
They'll never do that you say? Mark my words. These people already invested resources and demoed a unit encrypting uncompressed pixel-by-pixel. To throw away their work would make them look bad. It would take a lot out of them not push this technology even if it is costly on the technology end.
If this goes global, one entity that would be making load of money will be the lego corporation, since they are the sole manufacturer and distributor for legos. I wouldn't be surprised if they are the one that come up with this idea.
MPAA wanted to protect copyrighted works but CSS, intentially or otherwise, provided the means to control the DVD player market. When you negotiate a settlement with them, would you propose an alternative win-win solution, other than asking them release a free player for operating system/platform in the market? Would you ask them for consulation fees?
Sony sells its minidisc almost completely on the basis of its ability to make copies. Every single commercial i've seen for the minidisc consists of nothing but the people making copies of minidiscs. They put a heavy emphasis on "mix tapes". Mix tapes.. riiiight. I'm sure that's really it.:P If the attraction is really in being able to make legal copies of things you own for the purpose of putting all of your good music in one, convenient place.. isn't that exactly the same idea as mp3? Isn't that what SDMI is designed to prevent? But the RIAA has no problem with the minidisc.
RIAA *has* problems with minidiscs, CDRWs, and other recordable medias. Every media sold already has pre-levied RIAA TAX. IOW, you are already paying RIAA whether you record anything on the damn thing or not. That is why they sell *two* kinds of CDRWs, one for music and the other for computer. THe latter is cheaper than the other and you are obligated not to use them to record music.
It's really pathetic. It used to be the case where system breakers were the ones who need to hide behind an alias. Now this may start a trend where regular coders has to publish code behind an alias so they won't be hunted down patent and copyright lawyers.
Wait till Linux 'accidently' incorporated a patented algorithm. Linus Toravlds will suddenly dissappear from linux-devel. The mysterious "Father Penguin" recently decided to take over the maintainence of the linux project. The FBIs will be on to Linus, accussing him to be the hacker by the name of "Father Penguin" but Linus said, "you can't prove it!" and the masses will go "Yeah right! but we are still with you!"
According to the article, all software DVD players except Xing has their key encrypted in software. Even if the key is encrypted during compile time, won't it be decrypted during run time? Can somebody please explain this tit-bit for me?
1. convert all gif to png 2. create an apache module that checks the browser support for png. if it does not, any request for a png will send corresponding jpeg file. If no corresponding jpeg file, convert/create one. QED. Feasible? Hasdi
Short for cyber-hijacking or cyberjacking. On another note, why else would these people get a hard-on for these things.:P I think it is cute, common and more appropriate than crack:
1. "I jacked into the system" 2. "I hijacked the system" 3. "The system was hijacked by attrition.org"
...who will manipulate the central belief of a large group, and twist it for their own benefit. It does not matter if it is about religion (Inquisition), nationality, or even economic principals (see Joseph Stalin's bastardization of Karl Marx's views).
A few years ago, I said if the price of PowerPC comes down to 10% of a comparable Wintel's price, I'll opt for a PowerPC and install linux, and now it has. You can get a brand new iMac for $779. You can start with www.macinfind.com, www.deals-mac.com, www.absolutemac.com, and of course, www.google.com.
I know, it sounds like a shameless plug but I thought it'll be useful to some.
The complexity with superscalars is not in the ISA, but in the scheduling. At the most basic level, though, RISC instructions are used because it is (effectively) impossible to schedule CISC instructions for out-of-order execution.
Where have you been? Pentium II and K6 (and now K7) has been executing CISC instructions out of order for years!
Anyway, I argue that the complexity of superscalars is in the ISA. Most CISC architecture do not embed scheduling information in the ISA, which makes the decoding phase quite complex. RISC helps the situation dramatically because the ISA define each instruction to be of fixed length, so less pipeline stages to find instruction boundary. VLIW's ISA takes responsibility of the scheduling from the processor. EPIC, exposes this scheduling information, the processor still needs to do the actual scheduling.
I am opposed to VLIW because of
1) lack of binary compatibility (there workarounds being done in IBM research
2) difficult to fill in all the slots. I don't care how good the compiler is. Most system and application program languages in use today assumes sequential execution. You'll end of with NOPs and unnecessary loop unrollings, which leads to code bloat.
The bottom line is about price / performace AND the purchasing power of the consumers. If FPGA technology becomes so cheap that I can get 1 billion gates per chip for only a cent, I'll write my routines in verilog rather than C.
0.18 micron does not refer to the wafer size. It is related to transistor size. The smaller the circuitry, the faster it can go for less power. If you want to bump up the speed, you have to raise the voltage, which allows you to go for high clocks and mo heat dissipation. I think the equation is somewhere is Hennesy and Patterson's book.
For those of you who think this is impossible because of the variations between languages, Noam Chomsky has something to say to you. I was exposed to his idea back in formal languages and automata class. Basically, his argument is that we have universal grammar (UG) parser built within us when we are born. We 'hardened' the parameters to the UG to conform to our prefered language. Sorta of like guile and perl where guile is a very expressive language but perl, while express less, can express the same thing in a more consise manner. Universal grammar is defined by Chomsky as ``the system of principles, conditions, and rules that are elements or properties of all human languages... the essence of human language'' [Chomsky, 1978].
Thus, all languages that we are accustomed, English, Arabic, Malay, Japanese, and Chinese are special cases of a universal grammar. Chomsky and subsequent linguists are looking for those common elements of all languages. Universal grammar and the innateness hypothesis
This page is so heavily hitted that I doubt my post will be read, moderated up or down. Just want to throw in my two cents worth.
I read the comments in full nested more and I noticed that most atheist-related post are moderated like it has been in many slashdot pages. Like there is a strong correlation between geek-mentality, pure logical thinking, and atheism. I can see why: logics has nothing to do with humanity, ethics, spirituality, and emotion. To factor them in our decisions may seem illogical and wasteful but to deny them is to deny to human aspect of us. This includes the belief of a higher power.
If we continue to make policy without the human factor, I can see where this leads to:
1. Killing infants for economic reasons. We already allow abortion. Now we want to kill them because they are 'defective' and serve to purpose in a society. What's next? If we don't have enough money to spent on new Athlon, Itaniums and other precious goods, we can better finance them if we have two children instead of three?
2. Killing/Eating unproductive member of the society. Instead of spending money to put them into prisons or elderly care. Why don't we just recycle their organic material for a better model. We should take care of the homeless too... They do nothing but eat up our food supply and spreading diseases.
3. Manufacture prostitutes. forget marriage and relationships! What kind of girl you want to screw around with? Somebody with big boobs and tight openings? Doesn't that model you see on the streets really captivate you? We can have for you in a year thanks to our accelerate growth process. Do you want options? Red hair? brown hair? blue hair? Do you want it extra broad shoulders? You want her to look like your sister? Do you have gene we can base our model with?
4. Let's suck our earth resources dry... we are not going to be around forever anyway so why bother.
Maybe I need to get something eat. I'm off for lunch. Take care, yall.
the link is on the press release: http://www.amd.com/news/prodpr/99105.html http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/mpf/speech/slides9 9.ppt
According to them they are going to retrofit Athlon with 64-bit capability at the cost of 5% more silicon. I like their proposals, especially their 3-operand FP instructions (rather than the stack-operand FP).
I think their approach is quite decent. They should be able to come out with one by next year, running on the same EV6 motherboard. Some suggestions I would give them include: 1) explicit register renaming or more registers 2) more condition codes ala POWERPC 3) more predication support (conditional execution) especially on load and stores 4) support for speculative load and check
How much more silicon will that cost ya? another 5%?
I believe that the design team and the fab/manufacturing team are separate. Now that Athlon out of the design cycle, AMD can afford to make the design team work a new chip. Unless you want them to fire the design team and allocate more money on the fab/manu/sales of Athlon?
...a more intelligent response I'd wager any "proof" you can provide has already been debunked time and time again.
And many "proof" supporting evolution has been debunked time and time again as well...
don't you see the parallel here?
In science, we propose numerous hypothesis, and test them to see if it is consistent with experiments. In principle, we should discard it as soon as we run an experiment that conflicts with it.
In practice, many scientists stick to their hypothesis even in the face of conflicting evidence. Louis Pasteur is one case. Other popular case is Einstein physics vs Newtonian physics. I have my hypothesis, and you have yours. Very often, we're just like lawyers and our client happens to be our hypotheses. We present our evidence and we debunk the other side.
Did you ever stop to think what if the creationist are right and evolution is wrong? Or do you keep defending your case or debunk whatever they throw at you? Would you think I would have done likewise?
We may not admit but usually there are unrelated reasons why we believe in a particular hypothesis. Maybe you don't like the idea that one day we will be accountable for our actions. Maybe i don't like the idea that all my the deeds will be all for nothing, or I am in any way 'related' to that furry little animal. Why is that some people would want to mandate one hypthoses to be taught over another, when both have strong supporters?
Enough ranting. I am back to earning my pay. Maybe I'll continue tonight.
SCIENCE EDUCATION: The Kansas Board of Education and the Colorado State Board of Education, for mandating that children should not believe in Darwin's theory of evolution any more than they believe in Newton's theory of gravitation, Faraday's and Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism, or Pasteur's theory that germs cause disease.
Coming from a religious camp, if I live in a country where religion is taught in school (and I do), and my goverment suddenly that mandate that school children no longer need to believe in God, I would freak out the same way as they do.
Interesting parallel, don't you think?
Anyhow, these people should be careful about mentioning Pasteur. Scientists used to believe in this theory called 'spontaneous generation theory'. If you leave a piece of food in the open air, germs will automagically form. Pasteur proposed that germs did come from nowhere but already exist in the air. Pasteur and others where heavily criticized for this.
One scientist tried to disprove this theory by the glucose solution in a beaker an stuffing it with cork. No bacterial growth was observed. Spontenous theory advocates pointed out that when you stuff the beaker with cork, you cut out the air supply which is needed by the bacteria so the theory still holds.
Pasteur did the same experiment but this time stuff the beaker with cork with an S-tube. This should supply the beaker with fresh air but will trap the incoming bacteria in the S-tube. No bacterial growth was observed. Spontenous generation theory is debunked.
Why is the spontenous generation theory is sooo important? It supports the idea that humans are not created but evolved from bacteria spontenously created out of thin air.
Slashdot Mirror
Once MacOS X is released, this may spell the death of linuxppc and the sheepsaver port. Why install linux when you have a free robust BSD to run your GNU tools on?
Hasdi
Traditionally it has been like this:
:-P
DATA --> UNCOMPRESS --> DISPLAY
Now they want it like this:
DATA --> UNCOMPRESS --> DECRYPT --> DISPLAY
As any fool would tell you, this would mean the data has to be compressed from an *encrypted* video source. Compression works best if the content is regular as opposed to random, which is exactly what an encrypted source would give you. IOW, i doubt a full-length Matrix will fit on a DVD.
The best place, as been mentioned many times before in slashdot and advised by RSA would be to compress *and then* encrypt, which would be:
DATA --> DECRYPT --> UNCOMPRESS --> DISPLAY
My guess, in the final draft it would end up like this:
DATA --> DECRYPT --> UNCOMPRESS -->
---> ENCRYPT2 --> DECRYPT2 ---> DISPLAY
They'll never do that you say? Mark my words. These people already invested resources and demoed a unit encrypting uncompressed pixel-by-pixel. To throw away their work would make them look bad. It would take a lot out of them not push this technology even if it is costly on the technology end.
Then again, what do I know.
Hasdi
Then we will have DVD-like cartel all over again. Mark my words. With such a technological risk, they must have applied for lots of patents for FCD.
Hasdi
If this goes global, one entity that would be making load of money will be the lego corporation, since they are the sole manufacturer and distributor for legos. I wouldn't be surprised if they are the one that come up with this idea.
Hasdi
MPAA wanted to protect copyrighted works but CSS, intentially or otherwise, provided the means to control the DVD player market. When you negotiate a settlement with them, would you propose an alternative win-win solution, other than asking them release a free player for operating system/platform in the market? Would you ask them for consulation fees?
Sony sells its minidisc almost completely on the basis of its ability to make copies. Every single commercial i've seen for the minidisc consists of nothing but the people making copies of minidiscs. They put a heavy emphasis on "mix tapes". Mix tapes.. riiiight. I'm sure that's really it.
RIAA *has* problems with minidiscs, CDRWs, and other recordable medias. Every media sold already has pre-levied RIAA TAX. IOW, you are already paying RIAA whether you record anything on the damn thing or not. That is why they sell *two* kinds of CDRWs, one for music and the other for computer. THe latter is cheaper than the other and you are obligated not to use them to record music.
Hasdi
Thanks to Hemos, he'll get a billion more. What a cheap way to get publicity.
Is it just me or this story is unappropriate for slashdot?
HASDI
First post? First post??!!
It's really pathetic. It used to be the case where system breakers were the ones who need to hide behind an alias. Now this may start a trend where regular coders has to publish code behind an alias so they won't be hunted down patent and copyright lawyers.
Wait till Linux 'accidently' incorporated a patented algorithm. Linus Toravlds will suddenly dissappear from linux-devel. The mysterious "Father Penguin" recently decided to take over the maintainence of the linux project. The FBIs will be on to Linus, accussing him to be the hacker by the name of "Father Penguin" but Linus said, "you can't prove it!" and the masses will go "Yeah right! but we are still with you!"
Hasdi
According to the article, all software DVD players except Xing has their key encrypted in software. Even if the key is encrypted during compile time, won't it be decrypted during run time? Can somebody please explain this tit-bit for me?
TQ.
Hasdi
1. convert all gif to png 2. create an apache module that checks the browser support for png. if it does not, any request for a png will send corresponding jpeg file. If no corresponding jpeg file, convert/create one. QED. Feasible? Hasdi
Short for cyber-hijacking or cyberjacking. On another note, why else would these people get a hard-on for these things. :P I think it is cute, common and more appropriate than crack:
1. "I jacked into the system"
2. "I hijacked the system"
3. "The system was hijacked by attrition.org"
Hasdi
...who will manipulate the central belief of a large group, and twist it for their own benefit. It does not matter if it is about religion (Inquisition), nationality, or even economic principals (see Joseph Stalin's bastardization of Karl Marx's views).
Hasdi
PS. the pigs is in reference to ANIMAL FARM
A few years ago, I said if the price of PowerPC comes down to 10% of a comparable Wintel's price, I'll opt for a PowerPC and install linux, and now it has. You can get a brand new iMac for $779. You can start with www.macinfind.com, www.deals-mac.com, www.absolutemac.com, and of course, www.google.com.
I know, it sounds like a shameless plug but I thought it'll be useful to some.
Hasdi
The complexity with superscalars is not in the ISA, but in the scheduling. At the most basic level, though, RISC instructions are
used because it is (effectively) impossible to schedule CISC instructions for out-of-order execution.
Where have you been? Pentium II and K6 (and now K7) has been executing CISC instructions out of order for years!
Anyway, I argue that the complexity of superscalars is in the ISA. Most CISC architecture do not embed scheduling information in the ISA, which makes the decoding phase quite complex. RISC helps the situation dramatically because the ISA define each instruction to be of fixed length, so less pipeline stages to find instruction boundary. VLIW's ISA takes responsibility of the scheduling from the processor. EPIC, exposes this scheduling information, the processor still needs to do the actual scheduling.
I am opposed to VLIW because of
1) lack of binary compatibility (there workarounds being done in IBM research
2) difficult to fill in all the slots. I don't care how good the compiler is. Most system and application program languages in use today assumes sequential execution. You'll end of with NOPs and unnecessary loop unrollings, which leads to code bloat.
The bottom line is about price / performace AND the purchasing power of the consumers. If FPGA technology becomes so cheap that I can get 1 billion gates per chip for only a cent, I'll write my routines in verilog rather than C.
Hasdi
0.18 micron does not refer to the wafer size. It is related to transistor size. The smaller the circuitry, the faster it can go for less power. If you want to bump up the speed, you have to raise the voltage, which allows you to go for high clocks and mo heat dissipation. I think the equation is somewhere is Hennesy and Patterson's book.
Hasdi
1. The register is a rumour mill
2. At 0.18 micron this stuff needs a supa-dupa cooling system. Maybe with sharper fab, you can get this speed
3. Needs very large cache and very wide memory bus and heavy interleaving because the last time I checked the memory is still running at 100MHz max.
If I were you, i'll either get a dual celeron bundle at $799 or a 400 PPC750 with monitor also for $999.
Has anybody suspected that this confusion and lack of confidence is the latest FUD tactic by Wintel Media Engine?
Hasdi
The British Equivalent might be
Slashfullstop or Slashstop
I think the Brits prefer STROKE to SLASH. so...
Stroke fullstop
And some people wonder why they are lousy lovers...
Hasdi
For those of you who think this is impossible because of the variations between languages, Noam Chomsky has something to say to you. I was exposed to his idea back in formal languages and automata class. Basically, his argument is that we have universal grammar (UG) parser built within us when we are born. We 'hardened' the parameters to the UG to conform to our prefered language. Sorta of like guile and perl where guile is a very expressive language but perl, while express less, can express the same thing in a more consise manner.
Universal grammar is defined by Chomsky as ``the system of principles, conditions, and rules that are elements or properties of all human languages... the essence of human language'' [Chomsky, 1978].
Thus, all languages that we are accustomed, English, Arabic, Malay, Japanese, and Chinese are special cases of a universal grammar. Chomsky and subsequent linguists are looking for those common elements of all languages.
Universal grammar and the innateness hypothesis
Universal Grammar in Prolog
There are lots of discussion about this... see google.
Hasdi
This page is so heavily hitted that I doubt my post will be read, moderated up or down. Just want to throw in my two cents worth.
:)
I read the comments in full nested more and I noticed that most atheist-related post are moderated like it has been in many slashdot pages. Like there is a strong correlation between geek-mentality, pure logical thinking, and atheism. I can see why: logics has nothing to do with humanity, ethics, spirituality, and emotion. To factor them in our decisions may seem illogical and wasteful but to deny them is to deny to human aspect of us. This includes the belief of a higher power.
If we continue to make policy without the human factor, I can see where this leads to:
1. Killing infants for economic reasons. We already allow abortion. Now we want to kill them because they are 'defective' and serve to purpose in a society. What's next? If we don't have enough money to spent on new Athlon, Itaniums and other precious goods, we can better finance them if we have two children instead of three?
2. Killing/Eating unproductive member of the society. Instead of spending money to put them into prisons or elderly care. Why don't we just recycle their organic material for a better model. We should take care of the homeless too... They do nothing but eat up our food supply and spreading diseases.
3. Manufacture prostitutes. forget marriage and relationships! What kind of girl you want to screw around with? Somebody with big boobs and tight openings? Doesn't that model you see on the streets really captivate you? We can have for you in a year thanks to our accelerate growth process. Do you want options? Red hair? brown hair? blue hair? Do you want it extra broad shoulders? You want her to look like your sister? Do you have gene we can base our model with?
4. Let's suck our earth resources dry... we are not going to be around forever anyway so why bother.
Maybe I need to get something eat. I'm off for lunch. Take care, yall.
Hasdi
see TNT Animal Farm, you GNU 'communist'!
the link is on the press release:9 9.ppt
http://www.amd.com/news/prodpr/99105.html
http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/mpf/speech/slides
According to them they are going to retrofit Athlon with 64-bit capability at the cost of 5% more silicon. I like their proposals, especially their 3-operand FP instructions (rather than the stack-operand FP).
I think their approach is quite decent. They should be able to come out with one by next year, running on the same EV6 motherboard. Some suggestions I would give them include:
1) explicit register renaming or more registers
2) more condition codes ala POWERPC
3) more predication support (conditional execution) especially on load and stores
4) support for speculative load and check
How much more silicon will that cost ya? another 5%?
Hasdi
I believe that the design team and the fab/manufacturing team are separate. Now that Athlon out of the design cycle, AMD can afford to make the design team work a new chip. Unless you want them to fire the design team and allocate more money on the fab/manu/sales of Athlon?
Hasdi
...a more intelligent response
I'd wager any "proof" you can provide has already been debunked time and time again.
And many "proof" supporting evolution has been debunked time and time again as well...
don't you see the parallel here?
In science, we propose numerous hypothesis, and test them to see if it is consistent with experiments. In principle, we should discard it as soon as we run an experiment that conflicts with it.
In practice, many scientists stick to their hypothesis even in the face of conflicting evidence. Louis Pasteur is one case. Other popular case is Einstein physics vs Newtonian physics. I have my hypothesis, and you have yours. Very often, we're just like lawyers and our client happens to be our hypotheses. We present our evidence and we debunk the other side.
Did you ever stop to think what if the creationist are right and evolution is wrong? Or do you keep defending your case or debunk whatever they throw at you? Would you think I would have done likewise?
We may not admit but usually there are unrelated reasons why we believe in a particular hypothesis. Maybe you don't like the idea that one day we will be accountable for our actions. Maybe i don't like the idea that all my the deeds will be all for nothing, or I am in any way 'related' to that furry little animal. Why is that some people would want to mandate one hypthoses to be taught over another, when both have strong supporters?
Enough ranting. I am back to earning my pay. Maybe I'll continue tonight.
Hasdi
PS - yes, my point is italicized
Sir, I think you are missing my point.
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BTW, if anybody wants to learn a few more about Pasteur, you can check out the following links.
http://www.panspermia.org/pasteur.htm
http://www.accessexcellence.org/AB/BC/Louis_Pas
http://www.accessexcellence.org/AB/BC/Spontaneo
SCIENCE EDUCATION: The Kansas Board of Education and the Colorado State Board of Education, for mandating that children should not believe in Darwin's theory of evolution any more than they believe in Newton's theory of gravitation, Faraday's and Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism, or Pasteur's theory that germs cause disease.
Coming from a religious camp, if I live in a country where religion is taught in school (and I do), and my goverment suddenly that mandate that school children no longer need to believe in God, I would freak out the same way as they do.
Interesting parallel, don't you think?
Anyhow, these people should be careful about mentioning Pasteur. Scientists used to believe in this theory called 'spontaneous generation theory'. If you leave a piece of food in the open air, germs will automagically form. Pasteur proposed that germs did come from nowhere but already exist in the air. Pasteur and others where heavily criticized for this.
One scientist tried to disprove this theory by the glucose solution in a beaker an stuffing it with cork. No bacterial growth was observed. Spontenous theory advocates pointed out that when you stuff the beaker with cork, you cut out the air supply which is needed by the bacteria so the theory still holds.
Pasteur did the same experiment but this time stuff the beaker with cork with an S-tube. This should supply the beaker with fresh air but will trap the incoming bacteria in the S-tube. No bacterial growth was observed. Spontenous generation theory is debunked.
Why is the spontenous generation theory is sooo important? It supports the idea that humans are not created but evolved from bacteria spontenously created out of thin air.
Hasdi