You can get WinConnect Server XP. It allows Winders XP to have more than user active. You can have up to 21 RDP connections and still be using the desktop. It may not be fast or usable with that much load, but it can be done.
What expense? Directly using IE doesn't earn Microsoft any cash.
I beg to differ. Everytime you misspell a domain name or something else, you get redirected to MSN Search which shows "ads". It's why Verisign tried to wildcard the entire.com domain.
In addition, they license the technology for other companies such as AOL or Sharman Networks in order to provide web browsing in the respective guis.
Is the article even really news? For the VAST and GREAT majority, those who do business on the internet don't care about what browser you are using, only the fact you are visiting or buying something...
Of course it's newsworthy, just like when millions of users lose tons of productivity and time when an IE hole wreaks havoc on the internet. People switching to safer browsers is news, because it shows people are taking their security seriously.
Is the problem that I am running Ubuntu x64 version?
It could be. Using x86_64 to run 32 bit compiles (such as your thunderbird) will require 32 bit libraries for compatibility. Unfortunately apt-get/synaptic isn't architecture aware.
Your best bet is to use synaptic and find libgtk 32 bit, it may be labelled differently. Install that, or wait until Ubuntu finally upgrades to Thunderbird 1.0, using the system installed thunderbird for now.
Yeah, and if the DNS Servers are compromised, all your *nix security BS goes out the window. Even if your mother could use *nix, AND you could convince her to do it, AND she didn't have a Dell with Windows on it that she hides when you visit so she doesn't hurt your feelings, she'd still be vulnerable, and she's the one their targeting, not you.
Not true. Not all DNS Servers are *nix, nor does *nix require bind. That's like saying that AutoCad has a buffer overflow, Windows is insecure.
What will happen instead, if the DNS were to be hacked, is that the site will be UNABLE to come up witih a valid certificate on the DNS name it has stolen. If someone could hack and redirect paypal.com to their own site, they still wouldn't be able to offer a signature on a key named "paypal.com" with a certificate from a trusted issuer. The only certificate they could offer would be maybe a self-signed one, in which case you will get a warning. But it won't say that the certificate has changed, it will say that it is a bogus-looking certificate. That ought to alert people that something is wrong.
That assumes that you have the site bookmarked or go to https://url/
There will be no warning if the user goes to http://www.site.com/ and clicks on the login button as most users do. As a geek I know to check for the lock in my browser when I am surfing sites, most users don't know any better.
In addition, if the spyware can change your hosts file it's only an extra step to insert a new root cert that would automagically trust https://www.site.com/.
I have comcast and the email seems to work fine...I can access it via thunderbird or the web...
I use to have @home.net, which went out of business. My e-mail address changed to @attbbi.net or something, then they sold to comcast and I ended up with @comcast.net. Had I been using my isp's e-mail I would have had to e-mail everyone to update my address 3 times. Good thing I own my own domain.
In addition, if I wanted to switch providers I would have had to change my e-mail. It's the same reason why the government created the phone number portability act, phone companies can no longer tie down users. Personally I use my own domain on my own isp using my own servers. Most people aren't as savvy or don't care to provide these services so a free e-mail account that you can use regardless of isp is a great tool for them.
however friends with hotmail/yahoo/whatever often suffer delays when sending/receiving messages, etc. I can see if you don't want to change an email address for a business, but otherwise I don't see the point now that POP3 access is a "premium" feature.
I don't believe this is a problem. We're talking e-mail, not IM. Besides things take longer when they are passed through virus and spam filters. Comcast gives you a plain jane pop account (not even IMAP) and we don't know what level they scan the messages before hand. Hotmail/Yahoo both provide much more, with their virus and customizable spam filters.
and why in the world would anyone pay $60 a year for a crippled version of outlook of all things? If you are using webmail in the first place I doubt you really need something with all of the functionality of outlook.
That I have no rebuttal for... I sure as hell wouldn't go near outlook with your dick and someone else pushing. . .
Both Debian (1995) and Slackware (1993-1994) distributions have been around, and have provided free upgrades, since before NT4 (1996).
There goes that distinction again. We're talking updates not upgrades.
But of course, this is irrelevant. The point is that distributions like these have no support time limits. They plan to provide free support and upgrades indefinitely. This is obviously not the case with Windows - there will always come a point at which a full upgrade to a new OS is required.
Yeah support and upgrades indefinately. However we're talking about supporting a specific version.
Why use commercial Linux? There are free upgrades for the kernel and most packages for systems like Fedora.
Fedora hasn't been around since NT4. The grandparent poster said that Linux had supported systems for longer and cheaper than Windows. My question was what Linux?
If they stick with these systems they lose support, which includes patches for major security issues. Linux distributions generally provide much longer (and cheaper) support for older versions of the OS.
NT4 was just retired officially this year. NT4 was released in 1996. I believe this was when Red Hat 4.0 was released. I don't know of a single commercial Linux distribution that has been maintained and patched for the same lifecycle as NT4.
Of course you can. That's what freedom is all about. That's what Mel Gibson died to tell you. "You can take our lives, but you'll never take our freedom" - get it?
I'm pretty sure he said "they may take our wives, but they'll never take our freedom".
It seems to go along with the whole nobleman sleeping with every married woman thing. Don't know much about English history, but I remember the movie pretty clearly . . .
Create binaries for distribution where the Linux version is always 0.1+ version numbers ahead of the Windows version. And I mean actual functionality, not just the name.
Yeah, that's a good idea, cuz I mean it's not like the source is available and no one can just recompile or anything. . . Oh Wait . . .
So you're no better than those you (probably) hate. Congratulations!
No, no -- let me guess -- it's TOTALLY different because YOU'RE right. Bleh.
It's called a terms of service. He's not going to be Mr. Computer Bitch for all his friends/relatives if they don't even bother trying to keep their machines working.
We here at Slashdot believe in Freedom. The freedom to take your geeky friends advice and use Firefox, and he'll help you out if shit goes wrong. . . Or the freedom to take your chances with IE and paying some braindead loser at CompUSA a few hundred bucks and still having a dead machine at the end of the day.
Did that include the price of renewing the RHEL support contract for the next five years? You do realize, of course, that you can't just buy it once and be done with it; you have to pay that $350-$1500 every single year that you use the operating system. Nor do you have the option of dropping the contract -- once you buy in, you're legally hooked for life.
Or you can buy it bare and install TaoLinux/WhiteBox/CentOS, which is binary compatible. This works for 99% of server installation.
Or buy with RHEL and then switch to TaoLinux/WhiteBox/CentOS via yum for updates after your subscription expires.
Either way you have options, perhaps you have the infrastructure to support your own linux servers then why pay for support. Perhaps you don't, then getting RH is a great deal.
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Call me a troll, but no, that won't do. amd64/x86_64 is missing.
Troll!!
No just kidding, but seriously who in the hell uses an amd64 in an embedded device. I'm guarantee you that's not a very common configuration, if one used at all.
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for each in 'shell script responses' ; do
if [ $username == "Anonymous Coward ]; then
set $karma = "-1"
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done
When they ask for "Deadbeat Joe", don't say that person isn't here or that you don't know them. Just ask to speak to a manager.
Seems pretty straight forward. Good tip!
GNU/Ubuntu?
It's spelled Gnubuntu
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Get this file:
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Multiple Users for free on XP Pro!!!
There is also a registry hack somewhere that lets you use 1 remote and one local connection. I came across this once. Might want to google
You can get WinConnect Server XP. It allows Winders XP to have more than user active. You can have up to 21 RDP connections and still be using the desktop. It may not be fast or usable with that much load, but it can be done.
Nothing but a web-browser-with-training-wheels that charges you for the "service" of treating you like an intellectual toddler.
Which goes to show you, there is a ton of money to be made by treating the general public like intellectual toddlers.
You can even call them "Dummies" to their face, and they'll buy your products as shown by the profits generated by the "... for dummies" series.
What expense? Directly using IE doesn't earn Microsoft any cash.
.com domain.
I beg to differ. Everytime you misspell a domain name or something else, you get redirected to MSN Search which shows "ads". It's why Verisign tried to wildcard the entire
In addition, they license the technology for other companies such as AOL or Sharman Networks in order to provide web browsing in the respective guis.
Is the article even really news? For the VAST and GREAT majority, those who do business on the internet don't care about what browser you are using, only the fact you are visiting or buying something...
Of course it's newsworthy, just like when millions of users lose tons of productivity and time when an IE hole wreaks havoc on the internet. People switching to safer browsers is news, because it shows people are taking their security seriously.
I do use both of the mentioned browsers.
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Is the problem that I am running Ubuntu x64 version?
It could be. Using x86_64 to run 32 bit compiles (such as your thunderbird) will require 32 bit libraries for compatibility. Unfortunately apt-get/synaptic isn't architecture aware.
Your best bet is to use synaptic and find libgtk 32 bit, it may be labelled differently. Install that, or wait until Ubuntu finally upgrades to Thunderbird 1.0, using the system installed thunderbird for now.
Yeah, and if the DNS Servers are compromised, all your *nix security BS goes out the window. Even if your mother could use *nix, AND you could convince her to do it, AND she didn't have a Dell with Windows on it that she hides when you visit so she doesn't hurt your feelings, she'd still be vulnerable, and she's the one their targeting, not you.
Not true. Not all DNS Servers are *nix, nor does *nix require bind. That's like saying that AutoCad has a buffer overflow, Windows is insecure.
What will happen instead, if the DNS were to be hacked, is that the site will be UNABLE to come up witih a valid certificate on the DNS name it has stolen. If someone could hack and redirect paypal.com to their own site, they still wouldn't be able to offer a signature on a key named "paypal.com" with a certificate from a trusted issuer. The only certificate they could offer would be maybe a self-signed one, in which case you will get a warning. But it won't say that the certificate has changed, it will say that it is a bogus-looking certificate. That ought to alert people that something is wrong.
That assumes that you have the site bookmarked or go to https://url/
There will be no warning if the user goes to http://www.site.com/ and clicks on the login button as most users do. As a geek I know to check for the lock in my browser when I am surfing sites, most users don't know any better.
In addition, if the spyware can change your hosts file it's only an extra step to insert a new root cert that would automagically trust https://www.site.com/.
I have comcast and the email seems to work fine...I can access it via thunderbird or the web...
I use to have @home.net, which went out of business. My e-mail address changed to @attbbi.net or something, then they sold to comcast and I ended up with @comcast.net. Had I been using my isp's e-mail I would have had to e-mail everyone to update my address 3 times. Good thing I own my own domain.
In addition, if I wanted to switch providers I would have had to change my e-mail. It's the same reason why the government created the phone number portability act, phone companies can no longer tie down users. Personally I use my own domain on my own isp using my own servers. Most people aren't as savvy or don't care to provide these services so a free e-mail account that you can use regardless of isp is a great tool for them.
however friends with hotmail/yahoo/whatever often suffer delays when sending/receiving messages, etc. I can see if you don't want to change an email address for a business, but otherwise I don't see the point now that POP3 access is a "premium" feature.
I don't believe this is a problem. We're talking e-mail, not IM. Besides things take longer when they are passed through virus and spam filters. Comcast gives you a plain jane pop account (not even IMAP) and we don't know what level they scan the messages before hand. Hotmail/Yahoo both provide much more, with their virus and customizable spam filters.
and why in the world would anyone pay $60 a year for a crippled version of outlook of all things? If you are using webmail in the first place I doubt you really need something with all of the functionality of outlook.
That I have no rebuttal for... I sure as hell wouldn't go near outlook with your dick and someone else pushing. . .
Both Debian (1995) and Slackware (1993-1994) distributions have been around, and have provided free upgrades, since before NT4 (1996).
There goes that distinction again. We're talking updates not upgrades.
But of course, this is irrelevant. The point is that distributions like these have no support time limits. They plan to provide free support and upgrades indefinitely. This is obviously not the case with Windows - there will always come a point at which a full upgrade to a new OS is required.
Yeah support and upgrades indefinately. However we're talking about supporting a specific version.
Why use commercial Linux? There are free upgrades for the kernel and most packages for systems like Fedora.
Fedora hasn't been around since NT4. The grandparent poster said that Linux had supported systems for longer and cheaper than Windows. My question was what Linux?
Free Upgrades != longer (and cheaper) support for older versions of the OS
Thats my point. I'm not saying your wrong...
If they stick with these systems they lose support, which includes patches for major security issues. Linux distributions generally provide much longer (and cheaper) support for older versions of the OS.
NT4 was just retired officially this year. NT4 was released in 1996. I believe this was when Red Hat 4.0 was released. I don't know of a single commercial Linux distribution that has been maintained and patched for the same lifecycle as NT4.
Of course you can. That's what freedom is all about. That's what Mel Gibson died to tell you. "You can take our lives, but you'll never take our freedom" - get it?
I'm pretty sure he said "they may take our wives, but they'll never take our freedom".
It seems to go along with the whole nobleman sleeping with every married woman thing. Don't know much about English history, but I remember the movie pretty clearly . . .
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Create binaries for distribution where the Linux version is always 0.1+ version numbers ahead of the Windows version. And I mean actual functionality, not just the name.
Yeah, that's a good idea, cuz I mean it's not like the source is available and no one can just recompile or anything. . . Oh Wait . . .
So you're no better than those you (probably) hate. Congratulations!
No, no -- let me guess -- it's TOTALLY different because YOU'RE right. Bleh.
It's called a terms of service. He's not going to be Mr. Computer Bitch for all his friends/relatives if they don't even bother trying to keep their machines working.
We here at Slashdot believe in Freedom. The freedom to take your geeky friends advice and use Firefox, and he'll help you out if shit goes wrong. . . Or the freedom to take your chances with IE and paying some braindead loser at CompUSA a few hundred bucks and still having a dead machine at the end of the day.
The choice is yours. . .
But not cheaper than RHEL AS on Servers + RH Desktop. RHEL WS, contrary to popular belief, is not the desktop version of Red Hat.
And even cheaper still is WhiteBox/CentOS/Tao or perhaps Ubuntu (a commercially supported Linux distro).
You are right that it is cheaper. I thought there was an annual fee for RHEL, which is where the cost really stabs.
W2k3 Small Business: $499, Premium Edition $1299.
RH: $349 for one year, $799 for three years.
RH is only cheaper if you have less than five users on your W2k3 server. Remember with Windows you need the following:
Win2k3 Licenses
Client Access Licenses
Win XP/2K Desktop License
Once you add the price of the CAL, it goes up crazy like.
Did that include the price of renewing the RHEL support contract for the next five years? You do realize, of course, that you can't just buy it once and be done with it; you have to pay that $350-$1500 every single year that you use the operating system. Nor do you have the option of dropping the contract -- once you buy in, you're legally hooked for life.
Or you can buy it bare and install TaoLinux/WhiteBox/CentOS, which is binary compatible. This works for 99% of server installation.
Or buy with RHEL and then switch to TaoLinux/WhiteBox/CentOS via yum for updates after your subscription expires.
Either way you have options, perhaps you have the infrastructure to support your own linux servers then why pay for support. Perhaps you don't, then getting RH is a great deal.
Call me a troll, but no, that won't do. amd64/x86_64 is missing.
Troll!!
No just kidding, but seriously who in the hell uses an amd64 in an embedded device. I'm guarantee you that's not a very common configuration, if one used at all.