This isn't insightful. You got your bits crossed with your bytes!
It takes 8 Bits to equal 1 Byte!
When the previous poster put this:
* 1K = 1024 or 2^10
* 1M = 1048576 or 2^20
* 1G = 1073741824 or 2^30
* 1T = 1099511627776 or 2^40 He meant KByte, MByte, GByte, TByte. Don't forget that the 56 kbps modem only downloads @ 1/8th the speed s/kbps/KBps/.
There is a much easier way to do this, it does require a few resource. This is how we do it, without paying crazy RH fees per computer.
1) Mirror updates from trusted sources to a private directory 2) Test Updates on testbox, for compatability with various programs that may be affected 3) move to local public ftp directory after test 4) autorpm cron will pick them up off our local ftp directory
I'm surprised autorpm doesn't get much play here on SlashDot. It works perfect for this type of thing, and you only need to make one package for your enterprise. It will detect rh version and platform.
LOL! Ok, cool. Let's backport everything from Kernel 2.4 to 2.0 so it's both stable and secure!
I remember for the longest OpenBSD actually shipped with BIND 4, while BIND 9 was out. That's hilarious how long some vendors will keep backporting releases that even the authors have given up on.
1) Get OpenBrick (www.openbrick.org) 2) Install Linux w/ ftp server 3) Use heartbeat to monitor your box on board 4) when available, copy data from OpenBrick with either ftpcopy or mirroring software of your choice 5) ??? 6) Profit
3) Requires just as much patching as any other os, has software updates in ctrl panel too 4) Let's keep it real, even Panther ain't gonna be fully or near fully 64 bit. I got SuSE EntLin for Opteron installed and running NOW. How's that for 64 bits today! 6) Try installing OSX without registering for a.mac e-mail account. It may not be required in the Microsoft sense, but damn does it cram that shit down your throat. 7) Average Joe knows Windows, NOT Mac. OSX looks like a 7 year old candy lovers wet dream! 8) Sure, if you purchase a shitload of Apple software. I mean come on, there's no Ghost or good client control software for Apple.
Now let's bring up drawbacks for your situation!
1) Single vendor, getting parts without an Apple Cert is both expensive and hard! 2) Speed, OSX is a hawg even on G3's. Gotta have a top of the line Machine. I got Mandrake on a 6 year old p3 that performs better than OSX on a 4 year old G3! The cycle at which you buy hardware is going to be lower 3) 1 button mouse? wtf is it still 1983 @ Cupertino? 4) Kitchen Sink mentality @ Apple, I don't want to spend $X/1,500 for each of these machines to have a fucking modem. In fact having modems in corp environments can be security risks, we all have very stupid employees, the less ports they have the less can go wrong!
Fear the GSP. I was thinking about this, it's very possible to use a Solaris box as a load balancer for a bunch of Winboxen, in which case it would be IIS on Solaris. Dunno if they actually use apache. Hard to say. Good move using GNU Server Pages instead of ASP tho, regardless.
> That said, I'd certainly like to see some way to get back to a world where you could trust a mailserver to be who it said it was. Certainly, if everyone had a proper server certificate, and if every server required incoming connections to be from a server with a valid certificate or an authenticated user, we'd be there. I just don't see an easy way to get there from here...
Sounds like a great new revenue stream for NetSol. Imagine having to pay a NetSol tax to run a mail server to get a valid cert.
You are replying to my post, though it appears as though you stopped reading after the first line! Although not uncommon on slashdot, please read the rest.
My post was about a system wide change in the way e-mail is done. I know it's not feasible, but it would solve all the problems mentioned and make it real easy to determine whose who and what's what for spam filtering.
1) Require records in DNS to authenticate mail servers to send out e-mail for domains, subdomains even. All @example.com addresses must send out from mail.example.com otherwise the server on the other end will just reject it because the DNS record says so. 2) Require authenticated SMTP. Don't rely on IP based relay (IE, just allow the subnets you use to SMTP out.) 3) Require all SMTP gateways to force TLS 4) Require all POP/IMAP servers to use SSL
This set up would not only solve the encryption problem, but would greatly reduce the anonymity a spammer has and make it very easy to track them down and stop them.
I wasn't talking about relying on existing protocol's the exact way they are currently implemented but rather require implementation.
This is also about authenticity. Requiring authentication from the client would solve authenticity from User to Server, then TLS will take care of Server to Server.
I guess the only thing missing is verification that this server is allowed to send e-mail for the domain. If only SMTP were aware of who is allowed to send e-mail out for the domain, maybe by putting something in the DNS records. Then all this would be irrelevant.
What about SMTP w/ STARTTLS & require authentication?
Personally I think the best way to do e-mail would be to require more info in the DNS records. Have a Mail Server Sender setting or something that has to be set for all mail servers allowed to send out for your domain.
Then require authenticated smtp out and starttls. This will make for a pretty secure set up.
Monitor your network connectivity externally, pay for a cheap shell account that will run bigbrother or something. Have that page you if the network goes down. In addition have your network page you via ph#@mobile.att.net e-mail addy, if message != network is down. Or you can get a cheap isp and have your box @ work dial into your isp and if message == network is down, it will dialup and e-mail you via that connection.
Not sure what AT&T Tap was, and can't find out since it is now discontinued. More importantly you left no info about your requirements? Sounds to me like you just want to be able to txt message a few cell phones, I don't see why you can't just go online and do it. I use to have AT&T Wireless Services and wrote a quick curl script that used http://www.mobile.att.net/messagecenter/ to send me pages. As I recall it was a five line shell script, not too hard to replicate. I guess not having info about tap makes it really hard to understand your specific situation situation. Please provide more details!
Separate the functionality you want into a couple of steps, for example why not simply use something like formmail, write a standard form that will send a subscribe request to each of the selected mailing lists.
Then use the standard backend that comes with your mailing list software. For example both ezmlm and mailman (the two packages I am familiar with) need an address verified only once and you can administer all the lists to which you are subscribed to in one neat page after subscribing!
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192 kbps == 24 kBps
24 kBps * 60 = 1,440 kBps/min
1,440 kBps * 60 = 86,400 kBps/hour
There is no fucking way you're fitting two hours on this, so they must be pretty short CD's.
This isn't insightful. You got your bits crossed with your bytes!
It takes 8 Bits to equal 1 Byte!
When the previous poster put this:
* 1K = 1024 or 2^10
* 1M = 1048576 or 2^20
* 1G = 1073741824 or 2^30
* 1T = 1099511627776 or 2^40
He meant KByte, MByte, GByte, TByte. Don't forget that the 56 kbps modem only downloads @ 1/8th the speed s/kbps/KBps/.
There is a much easier way to do this, it does require a few resource. This is how we do it, without paying crazy RH fees per computer.
1) Mirror updates from trusted sources to a private directory
2) Test Updates on testbox, for compatability with various programs that may be affected
3) move to local public ftp directory after test
4) autorpm cron will pick them up off our local ftp directory
I'm surprised autorpm doesn't get much play here on SlashDot. It works perfect for this type of thing, and you only need to make one package for your enterprise. It will detect rh version and platform.
LOL! Ok, cool. Let's backport everything from Kernel 2.4 to 2.0 so it's both stable and secure!
I remember for the longest OpenBSD actually shipped with BIND 4, while BIND 9 was out. That's hilarious how long some vendors will keep backporting releases that even the authors have given up on.
probably, but his momma didn't raise no fool!
Posting graphics on Slashdot is a crazy thing to do, especially if you like being able to access your network!
You are in serious need of a dhcp server!
Good one, I like the rsync idea as well.
Here's a quick suggestion
1) Get OpenBrick (www.openbrick.org)
2) Install Linux w/ ftp server
3) Use heartbeat to monitor your box on board
4) when available, copy data from OpenBrick with either ftpcopy or mirroring software of your choice
5) ???
6) Profit
I believe you are looking for www.hotmale.com
404 is file not found, NOT domain not found! You got your error messages crossed!
I'm gonna burn a little karma here and recommend that you be moderated up. Very good point, and definately the way to proceed.
Let me respond to a few of your points!
.mac e-mail account. It may not be required in the Microsoft sense, but damn does it cram that shit down your throat.
3) Requires just as much patching as any other os, has software updates in ctrl panel too
4) Let's keep it real, even Panther ain't gonna be fully or near fully 64 bit. I got SuSE EntLin for Opteron installed and running NOW. How's that for 64 bits today!
6) Try installing OSX without registering for a
7) Average Joe knows Windows, NOT Mac. OSX looks like a 7 year old candy lovers wet dream!
8) Sure, if you purchase a shitload of Apple software. I mean come on, there's no Ghost or good client control software for Apple.
Now let's bring up drawbacks for your situation!
1) Single vendor, getting parts without an Apple Cert is both expensive and hard!
2) Speed, OSX is a hawg even on G3's. Gotta have a top of the line Machine. I got Mandrake on a 6 year old p3 that performs better than OSX on a 4 year old G3! The cycle at which you buy hardware is going to be lower
3) 1 button mouse? wtf is it still 1983 @ Cupertino?
4) Kitchen Sink mentality @ Apple, I don't want to spend $X/1,500 for each of these machines to have a fucking modem. In fact having modems in corp environments can be security risks, we all have very stupid employees, the less ports they have the less can go wrong!
I think I've gone on for long enough!
Ah, prepare for a world of Gates Motor Company.
Ironic, considering that the Beatles are suing Apple for making iPod's
Fear the GSP. I was thinking about this, it's very possible to use a Solaris box as a load balancer for a bunch of Winboxen, in which case it would be IIS on Solaris. Dunno if they actually use apache. Hard to say. Good move using GNU Server Pages instead of ASP tho, regardless.
Let me paste a quick link here for you:
o st=www.amaz on.com
http://www.redhat.com/software/stronghold/
Based on the URL, got any idea who makes stronghold?
Any idea what OS stronghold runs on?
Here, lemme make it a little easier for you so you don't hurt yourself:
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?h
It's Sivoet Rissua, you prcik!!!
Send more than one, have it send one every five minutes until it recieves a message at a specified e-mail.
It's not that complicated.
> That said, I'd certainly like to see some way to get back to a world where you could trust a mailserver to be who it said it was. Certainly, if everyone had a proper server certificate, and if every server required incoming connections to be from a server with a valid certificate or an authenticated user, we'd be there. I just don't see an easy way to get there from here...
Sounds like a great new revenue stream for NetSol. Imagine having to pay a NetSol tax to run a mail server to get a valid cert.
You are replying to my post, though it appears as though you stopped reading after the first line! Although not uncommon on slashdot, please read the rest.
My post was about a system wide change in the way e-mail is done. I know it's not feasible, but it would solve all the problems mentioned and make it real easy to determine whose who and what's what for spam filtering.
1) Require records in DNS to authenticate mail servers to send out e-mail for domains, subdomains even. All @example.com addresses must send out from mail.example.com otherwise the server on the other end will just reject it because the DNS record says so.
2) Require authenticated SMTP. Don't rely on IP based relay (IE, just allow the subnets you use to SMTP out.)
3) Require all SMTP gateways to force TLS
4) Require all POP/IMAP servers to use SSL
This set up would not only solve the encryption problem, but would greatly reduce the anonymity a spammer has and make it very easy to track them down and stop them.
I wasn't talking about relying on existing protocol's the exact way they are currently implemented but rather require implementation.
This is also about authenticity. Requiring authentication from the client would solve authenticity from User to Server, then TLS will take care of Server to Server.
I guess the only thing missing is verification that this server is allowed to send e-mail for the domain. If only SMTP were aware of who is allowed to send e-mail out for the domain, maybe by putting something in the DNS records. Then all this would be irrelevant.
What about SMTP w/ STARTTLS & require authentication?
Personally I think the best way to do e-mail would be to require more info in the DNS records. Have a Mail Server Sender setting or something that has to be set for all mail servers allowed to send out for your domain.
Then require authenticated smtp out and starttls. This will make for a pretty secure set up.
Monitor your network connectivity externally, pay for a cheap shell account that will run bigbrother or something. Have that page you if the network goes down. In addition have your network page you via ph#@mobile.att.net e-mail addy, if message != network is down. Or you can get a cheap isp and have your box @ work dial into your isp and if message == network is down, it will dialup and e-mail you via that connection.
Not sure what AT&T Tap was, and can't find out since it is now discontinued. More importantly you left no info about your requirements? Sounds to me like you just want to be able to txt message a few cell phones, I don't see why you can't just go online and do it. I use to have AT&T Wireless Services and wrote a quick curl script that used http://www.mobile.att.net/messagecenter/ to send me pages. As I recall it was a five line shell script, not too hard to replicate. I guess not having info about tap makes it really hard to understand your specific situation situation. Please provide more details!
Separate the functionality you want into a couple of steps, for example why not simply use something like formmail, write a standard form that will send a subscribe request to each of the selected mailing lists.
Then use the standard backend that comes with your mailing list software. For example both ezmlm and mailman (the two packages I am familiar with) need an address verified only once and you can administer all the lists to which you are subscribed to in one neat page after subscribing!