I tried MIDPSSH, a few months ago. I have not tried it lately thoguh MIDPSSH in a while. I was having problems with it locking up if I used remote input.
That's true, the older versions were a bit funky. I had connections unexpectedly drop off more often in midpssh in the previous versions than with Idokorro demo.
The latest versions are on the same level as the Idokorro.
And found that the $100 bucks for Idorroko was well worth it, because it was getting to frustrating having to restart from scratch after MIDP locked up my phone.
I noticed that the price went down recently. When I was thinking about buying it, the Blackberry version cost almost $300. I just couldn't justify that for ssh, so I ended up using the demo + midpssh's older version until it got stable.
GP: What in the world do you think NT4 was missing that Windows 2000 had, that was so significant?
Me: Not having to reboot for every little thing. NT4 required reboots for things as simple as IP changes.
You: So did Windows 95/98/ME. Please try again.
Notice how our comments are related and your comment is completely from left field. I know that the 9x branch requird a reboot for every lttle thing. GP Poster asked what makes 2000 better than NT (NT is not from the 9x branch).
12. Can you tell me more about Google Talk and privacy?
"Google Talk currently does not encrypt chats or calls. But we are working hard to make many improvements to Google Talk while it is in beta, and we plan to fully support encryption of chats and calls before our official release."
That means that the payload isn't encrypted. It doesn't state whether the connection to the server is encrypted. For example, if you go to https://www.gmail.com/ you will have an SSL connection to Gmail the whole time you are logged in. All of the e-mail you have doesn't magically convert to encrypted e-mail, but you are receiving it through an encrypted tunnel.
It says "use TLA if AVAILABLE." 5222 is the non encryption port (like port 80.) 5223 is the encryption port (like 443).
443 is SSL, not TLS. When you have a TLS web server, it's still on port 80 and clients such as Firefox encrypt when talking to said server. Check Preferences/Advanced/Security on Firefox.
Another example is SMTP, these days most SMTP servers use TLS. TLS uses the same port, and encryption is negotiated. Run this command on an SMTP server that supports encryption:
I read the article, then I tried it out with iChat. When I tried to connect, a lovely little window popped up and said "Your username and password are about to be sent unencrypted." So, tell me mister know-it-all, where is this encryption?
At the transport layer. This is using TLS. Let me draw an example by using mail which now mostly supports TLS.
In Outlook you have the option to use secure authentication or standard. Standard sends the password in plain text, secure authentication uses a hash. If you use IMAP SSL, you are still sending the password in plain text even though you are sending it through a secure tunnel.
My Mac died a few days ago so I can't verify this, but I know that Gaim disconnects when I try disabling TLS support and I know that reading my ethereal output shows the stuff going encrypted to the server.
That page says that Chat & Calls are unencrypted. It doesn't say anything about their jabber server. Try using openssl's s_client to connect to talk.google.com, you can clearly see they have a sert and are accepting TLS.
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Vaporware has to do with releases, not beta's. Technically Duke Nukem Forever had a few beta's. GP Poster is more likely referring to the fact that Microsoft removed this feature from the release of Win XP SP3 (Aka Windows Vista).
Encryption? Like, good SSL-based encryption? Do you know how many people use AIM or Yahoo Messenger without encryption? Do you know how many use it with their university or coffee shop's unencrypted wireless service?
If you RTFA, you will see that talk.google.com requires TLS to connect. TLS is basically SSL, with negotiation for clients that don't support SSL. However without enabling TLS you will not be allowed to connect to Google Talk Server.
Looks like Microsoft disagrees with you. Windows 2000 is supported until June 30, 2010. Mainstream support ended June 30, 2005, which is almost a year after XP SP2 was released with a popup blocker.
Seems to me like a lot of the changes that Microsoft made to XPSP2's IE were security fixes, which contradicts this blurb from the bottom of linked page:
Security hotfixes Free to all customers through March 31, 2010
I'm pretty sure you were right about Windows 98 though.
IE6 has a popup blocker as part of the browser, has for like a year now. So I don't know how old this cut and paste is, but it's seriously misinformed.
IE6 does not have a popup blocker built in. Windows XP SP2 does. There is a difference in that most corps are still using Windows 2000, and that is still a valid supported OS. In fact Windows 98, which does run IE6, is also still a supported OS according to Microsoft. My unsupported IE6 on Wine doesn't have a popup blocker either.
Until this is uniform on all IE6 installations, I wouldn't go so far as to say that IE6 has a popup browser.
Really? It's in the View Objects list. Sort by cookie.
I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but this seems more of a case of inexperience than a feature. Mozilla's is a little bit easier to find, but it also provides less information and doesn't appear to let me easily view the contents of the cookie.
So you yourself state that you have to fuck around with the filesystem to manage cookies in IE and then state that it has a cookie manager? Come on, IE has no cookie management. Just because you can manage your cookies does not mean it does.
For example, Apple has spotlight to locate files easily, just because you can organize your files easily in Windows does not mean you have spotlight.
And of course there are none for Mozilla, because it's really super secure and you don't need to worry about patching or anything.
Patches are a part of any software that gives a rats ass about security. The problem parent poster was talking about revolves around the fact that IE is one of two major ways in which massive spyware and virus infections have been happening. Once again, not everyone is running XPSP2 and not everyone should have to give MS a hundred bucks in order to get a pop-up blocker and a browser that "by default" doesn't let spywaremeisters have their way with a users computer.
I use QmailToaster, and you still have to compile everything, and make sure the dependancies work out when you update anything. This is not a trivial matter for many smallish offices.
Have you used the scripts? Things need to be compiled, sure, but there are scripts to resolve all dependencies on your system, compile the QmailToaster & install it for you in the correct order. How much easier can you get?
Do they provide prebuilt binaries?
No one does, it would go against the Qmail license. They do however compile/install qmail for you for a fee that's less than licensing (you don't buy Exchange) most common commercial products. You can also install your own and have them support it.
My Advice is Don't use Qmail if you looking for something simple and easy to understand. Use Postfix, Exim, or Sendmail. They are supported in some form or another with various distros.
Qmail alone is pretty bad, but QmailToaster is a Qmail distro that makes everything easy. Check it out before you start lumping it with previous experience, at least look at the page.
Qmail is Great if your a sysadmin, and/or programmer, and you do not mind dinking with several different patch sets, and don't mind recompiling, and installing stuff yourself until it is setup just the way you want.
Once again, my recommendation wasn't for Qmail, it was for QmailToaster. QmailToaster has all the important patches, keeps things light and is administerable all via the web.
Oh, and what happens if you leave the company, who is going to take care of it if qmail breaks, or needs an update. Qmail is not a good long term bet.
Spoken like someone who has never worked with Qmailadmin or vqadmin web interface. Besides in almost 5 years there has been no Qmail update.
Commercial support would be a nice option, but then there is that pesky licence that qmail uses. No binaries allowed, Ahhhg!
Try Inter7.com or various other Qmail service providers.
My recommendation would be to run a QmailToaster from http://www.qmailtoaster.com/. I've run this for three years, it's very simple and easy to use. There are scripts that will install the entire setup from beginning to end.
Then you can get a company like postini or dyndns.org or something to act as a backup mail server in case yours is down.
I'd recommend joining the QmailToaster mailing list first, to get a feel of the community.
Sure, because code taken straight out of linux and dumped into win32 land works just peachy. (Once you spend thousands of hours hacking away at it.)
Maybe the developers grandparent mentions were uninformed about what Linux is, remember most people think that Red Hat is Linux. I do not believe I am reaching here, but perhaps the Microsoft developers he was referring to meant open source code, not Linux.
Microsoft uses open source packages commonly found on Linux distributions. For example zlib is one, when a zlib vulnerability is discovered you will always find Microsoft's name as one of the vendors contacted.
The zlib is licensed in a BSD-esque license. It's fine for Microsoft to use it legally. My question was strictly with regards to the GPL licensed software.
Microsoft using open source is not an isolated incident as shown below with a quick Google.
http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngapbr.html Internet Explorer [Microsoft] (Mac PPC, Mac OS X) - version 5.0 and later; read-only; full alpha support (screenshots), though broken for tiled page- and table-background images smaller than 64x64 (switches to binary transparency for performance reasons [should be fixed in one of next two versions]; can work around bug by manually tiling image to be larger than 64 pixels in at least one dimension); full gamma support; full sRGB and ICC profile support; progressive display of interlaced images (replicating method); broken default handling on OS X for standalone PNGs (versions 5.1 and 5.2 save to disk rather than view due to QuickTime bogosity; see Matthew Rothenberg's Mac OS X Hint for simple fix); uses libpng and zlib; freeware. (Note that AOL 5.0 is apparently built on MSIE 4.5 or earlier, so it has no PNG support at all. No word on later versions.)
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,119666,0 0.asp Microsoft also criticized Core Security Technologies of Boston for publishing a proof of concept for a hole in an MSN Messenger component called "libpng," which is used to display PNG (Portable Network Graphics) files
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi? id=159304 iDEFENSE has confirmed the existance of the vulnerability in version 5.1.2600.2180 of the Microsoft Telnet Client, the telnet client included in the Kerberos V5 Release 1.3.6 package and the client included in the SUNWtnetc package of Solaris 5.9.
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Middle clicking on a tab label does nothing here. Is that a setting that you activated?
Middle clicking works in the Windows version of Firefox. On the Linux version it does nothing.
I tried MIDPSSH, a few months ago. I have not tried it lately thoguh MIDPSSH in a while. I was having problems with it locking up if I used remote input.
That's true, the older versions were a bit funky. I had connections unexpectedly drop off more often in midpssh in the previous versions than with Idokorro demo.
The latest versions are on the same level as the Idokorro.
And found that the $100 bucks for Idorroko was well worth it, because it was getting to frustrating having to restart from scratch after MIDP locked up my phone.
I noticed that the price went down recently. When I was thinking about buying it, the Blackberry version cost almost $300. I just couldn't justify that for ssh, so I ended up using the demo + midpssh's older version until it got stable.
GP: But considering the phone only holds 100 songs...
You: If by 100 you mean 1,000, then yes.
No, the GP was referring to the phone. That is a different beast than the iPod Nano, which you linked to.
http://www.apple.com/itunes/mobile/
From Site: Plus, ROKR E1 phones from Cingular come pre-upgraded to support up to 100 songs.
Maybe he was too busy trying to take over Mainframe? :o)
Wow! That's a pretty obscure Reboot reference. I had totally forgotten about that show . . .
I've been using POP to fetch my e-mail from the same address for 11 years.
:)
Oh, I'm so sorry. . .
Maybe you should look into IMAP!
GP: What in the world do you think NT4 was missing that Windows 2000 had, that was so significant?
Me: Not having to reboot for every little thing. NT4 required reboots for things as simple as IP changes.
You: So did Windows 95/98/ME. Please try again.
Notice how our comments are related and your comment is completely from left field. I know that the 9x branch requird a reboot for every lttle thing. GP Poster asked what makes 2000 better than NT (NT is not from the 9x branch).
What in the world do you think NT4 was missing that Windows 2000 had, that was so significant?
Not having to reboot for every little thing. NT4 required reboots for things as simple as IP changes.
According to Google, it is not encrypted.
12. Can you tell me more about Google Talk and privacy?
"Google Talk currently does not encrypt chats or calls. But we are working hard to make many improvements to Google Talk while it is in beta, and we plan to fully support encryption of chats and calls before our official release."
That means that the payload isn't encrypted. It doesn't state whether the connection to the server is encrypted. For example, if you go to https://www.gmail.com/ you will have an SSL connection to Gmail the whole time you are logged in. All of the e-mail you have doesn't magically convert to encrypted e-mail, but you are receiving it through an encrypted tunnel.
There is a difference.
It says "use TLA if AVAILABLE." 5222 is the non encryption port (like port 80.) 5223 is the encryption port (like 443).
443 is SSL, not TLS. When you have a TLS web server, it's still on port 80 and clients such as Firefox encrypt when talking to said server. Check Preferences/Advanced/Security on Firefox.
Another example is SMTP, these days most SMTP servers use TLS. TLS uses the same port, and encryption is negotiated. Run this command on an SMTP server that supports encryption:
$ openssl s_client -starttls smtp -showcerts -connect server:25
You will see that connecting via telnet or openssl 's TLS configuration will still connect to port 25.
I read the article, then I tried it out with iChat. When I tried to connect, a lovely little window popped up and said "Your username and password are about to be sent unencrypted." So, tell me mister know-it-all, where is this encryption?
At the transport layer. This is using TLS. Let me draw an example by using mail which now mostly supports TLS.
In Outlook you have the option to use secure authentication or standard. Standard sends the password in plain text, secure authentication uses a hash. If you use IMAP SSL, you are still sending the password in plain text even though you are sending it through a secure tunnel.
My Mac died a few days ago so I can't verify this, but I know that Gaim disconnects when I try disabling TLS support and I know that reading my ethereal output shows the stuff going encrypted to the server.
Au contraire. Right now, Google Talk is unencrypted.
http://www.google.com/talk/about.html
That page says that Chat & Calls are unencrypted. It doesn't say anything about their jabber server. Try using openssl's s_client to connect to talk.google.com, you can clearly see they have a sert and are accepting TLS.
Vaporware has to do with releases, not beta's. Technically Duke Nukem Forever had a few beta's. GP Poster is more likely referring to the fact that Microsoft removed this feature from the release of Win XP SP3 (Aka Windows Vista).
Encryption? Like, good SSL-based encryption? Do you know how many people use AIM or Yahoo Messenger without encryption? Do you know how many use it with their university or coffee shop's unencrypted wireless service?
If you RTFA, you will see that talk.google.com requires TLS to connect. TLS is basically SSL, with negotiation for clients that don't support SSL. However without enabling TLS you will not be allowed to connect to Google Talk Server.
You are incorrect in saying that Windows 98 and Windows 2000 are still supported, because they are not.
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http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/support/life
Looks like Microsoft disagrees with you. Windows 2000 is supported until June 30, 2010. Mainstream support ended June 30, 2005, which is almost a year after XP SP2 was released with a popup blocker.
Seems to me like a lot of the changes that Microsoft made to XPSP2's IE were security fixes, which contradicts this blurb from the bottom of linked page:
Security hotfixes Free to all customers through March 31, 2010
I'm pretty sure you were right about Windows 98 though.
IE6 has a popup blocker as part of the browser, has for like a year now. So I don't know how old this cut and paste is, but it's seriously misinformed.
IE6 does not have a popup blocker built in. Windows XP SP2 does. There is a difference in that most corps are still using Windows 2000, and that is still a valid supported OS. In fact Windows 98, which does run IE6, is also still a supported OS according to Microsoft. My unsupported IE6 on Wine doesn't have a popup blocker either.
Until this is uniform on all IE6 installations, I wouldn't go so far as to say that IE6 has a popup browser.
Really? It's in the View Objects list. Sort by cookie.
I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but this seems more of a case of inexperience than a feature. Mozilla's is a little bit easier to find, but it also provides less information and doesn't appear to let me easily view the contents of the cookie.
So you yourself state that you have to fuck around with the filesystem to manage cookies in IE and then state that it has a cookie manager? Come on, IE has no cookie management. Just because you can manage your cookies does not mean it does.
For example, Apple has spotlight to locate files easily, just because you can organize your files easily in Windows does not mean you have spotlight.
And of course there are none for Mozilla, because it's really super secure and you don't need to worry about patching or anything.
Patches are a part of any software that gives a rats ass about security. The problem parent poster was talking about revolves around the fact that IE is one of two major ways in which massive spyware and virus infections have been happening. Once again, not everyone is running XPSP2 and not everyone should have to give MS a hundred bucks in order to get a pop-up blocker and a browser that "by default" doesn't let spywaremeisters have their way with a users computer.
640 years should be enough for anyone!
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Yes!
http://www.akimbo.com/
Quite clearly, the computer failed to prevent the user from being an idiot.
Beauty may be skin deep, but dumbass goes to the bone.
I use QmailToaster, and you still have to compile everything, and make sure the dependancies work out when you update anything. This is not a trivial matter for many smallish offices.
Have you used the scripts? Things need to be compiled, sure, but there are scripts to resolve all dependencies on your system, compile the QmailToaster & install it for you in the correct order. How much easier can you get?
Do they provide prebuilt binaries?
No one does, it would go against the Qmail license. They do however compile/install qmail for you for a fee that's less than licensing (you don't buy Exchange) most common commercial products. You can also install your own and have them support it.
My Advice is Don't use Qmail if you looking for something simple and easy to understand. Use Postfix, Exim, or Sendmail. They are supported in some form or another with various distros.
Qmail alone is pretty bad, but QmailToaster is a Qmail distro that makes everything easy. Check it out before you start lumping it with previous experience, at least look at the page.
Qmail is Great if your a sysadmin, and/or programmer, and you do not mind dinking with several different patch sets, and don't mind recompiling, and installing stuff yourself until it is setup just the way you want.
Once again, my recommendation wasn't for Qmail, it was for QmailToaster. QmailToaster has all the important patches, keeps things light and is administerable all via the web.
Oh, and what happens if you leave the company, who is going to take care of it if qmail breaks, or needs an update. Qmail is not a good long term bet.
Spoken like someone who has never worked with Qmailadmin or vqadmin web interface. Besides in almost 5 years there has been no Qmail update.
Commercial support would be a nice option, but then there is that pesky licence that qmail uses. No binaries allowed, Ahhhg!
Try Inter7.com or various other Qmail service providers.
Great work NASA, JPL, Discovery crew! Welcome home. I hope you fly again, soon.
JPL has done great work with the science, but i don't think any manned space missions have anything to do with JPL.
My recommendation would be to run a QmailToaster from http://www.qmailtoaster.com/. I've run this for three years, it's very simple and easy to use. There are scripts that will install the entire setup from beginning to end.
Then you can get a company like postini or dyndns.org or something to act as a backup mail server in case yours is down.
I'd recommend joining the QmailToaster mailing list first, to get a feel of the community.
Transactional NTFS is still slated for inclusion in Windows Vista.
Oh don't worry, there is still plenty of time for Microsoft to remove this in time for the release of XPSP3^H^H^H^H^HVista.
Sure, because code taken straight out of linux and dumped into win32 land works just peachy. (Once you spend thousands of hours hacking away at it.)
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Maybe the developers grandparent mentions were uninformed about what Linux is, remember most people think that Red Hat is Linux. I do not believe I am reaching here, but perhaps the Microsoft developers he was referring to meant open source code, not Linux.
Microsoft uses open source packages commonly found on Linux distributions. For example zlib is one, when a zlib vulnerability is discovered you will always find Microsoft's name as one of the vendors contacted.
http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/Microsofts+borrowed
The zlib is licensed in a BSD-esque license. It's fine for Microsoft to use it legally. My question was strictly with regards to the GPL licensed software.
Microsoft using open source is not an isolated incident as shown below with a quick Google.
http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngapbr.html
Internet Explorer [Microsoft] (Mac PPC, Mac OS X) - version 5.0 and later; read-only; full alpha support (screenshots), though broken for tiled page- and table-background images smaller than 64x64 (switches to binary transparency for performance reasons [should be fixed in one of next two versions]; can work around bug by manually tiling image to be larger than 64 pixels in at least one dimension); full gamma support; full sRGB and ICC profile support; progressive display of interlaced images (replicating method); broken default handling on OS X for standalone PNGs (versions 5.1 and 5.2 save to disk rather than view due to QuickTime bogosity; see Matthew Rothenberg's Mac OS X Hint for simple fix); uses libpng and zlib; freeware. (Note that AOL 5.0 is apparently built on MSIE 4.5 or earlier, so it has no PNG support at all. No word on later versions.)
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,119666,
Microsoft also criticized Core Security Technologies of Boston for publishing a proof of concept for a hole in an MSN Messenger component called "libpng," which is used to display PNG (Portable Network Graphics) files
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi
iDEFENSE has confirmed the existance of the vulnerability in version 5.1.2600.2180 of the Microsoft Telnet Client, the telnet client included in the Kerberos V5 Release 1.3.6 package and the client included in the SUNWtnetc package of Solaris 5.9.
If you die on the way home, you can't use your trip to Mars as a pickup line!
But if you live, can you imagine the frequent flyer miles?