Speaking of "tried and convicted", here's something that some of your cop friends need to have drilled into their thick skulls - mental illness and homelessness are not capital crimes and passing a death sentence is the job of a jury, not "peace" officers.
"Vile, irrational pieces of shit" - yeah, you don't have any prejudices of your own. I said they should FACE the electric chair and 1st degree murder charges, because it has become clear that cops need to face a stronger deterrent. It's been far too easy, for far too long to justify their frequently unwarranted brutality. I've seen nurses, most of them female, and orderlies deal with psychotic or agitated patients - so far, not one has had to break a patient's limbs, strangle them or beat their faces into the floor. I don't know how big and strong the Fullerton Fuzz are, but unless they're recruiting from the Tiny Tim academy, they're probably well above average. If even 3 of them couldn't handle a 140 lb unarmed crazy person whether or not he was fighting back, they are incompetent.
There's a legal definition of murder but it's not the only one - here are two that should be understandable to everyone : 1.) To kill another human unlawfully ( note: this can apply even to those who purportedly serve the law ) , 2) To kill brutally or inhumanly ( and don't take my word for it; here's what Kelly Thomas' father, a retired Orange County police officer had to say “When I first walked into the hospital, I looked at what his mother described as my son I didn’t recognize him,” Thomas said. “This is cold-blooded, aggravated murder.”
Now the officer you mentioned, Jay Cincinelli definitely didn't deserve being shot multiple times and he's lucky he's not seriously disabled ( beyond the loss of an eye ) or crippled. But, if he played a part in the brutal beating and murder of a homeless schizophrenic, he deserves no sympathy. Yes, if they all walk, I will be pissed. It happens far too often. President GWH Bush was appalled at the Rodney King beating - and King was easily twice the size of Kelly Thomas. While things are changing with respect to prosecution, the Blue Brotherhood quickly close ranks and make an investigation difficult. Witness the police bullshit that happened in Canada last year for the G20 summit. Also, it makes no sense that cops are held to a lesser standard than soldiers. Any US soldier that did this to a foreign national would be lucky to get less than 15 years at hard labor.
"Killing is part of the job" - only if you work in an abbattoir or are enlisted during wartime. Anyone who believes otherwise shouldn't be permitted to carry a weapon.
Did you watch the clip? Did you note that he was on the ground screaming for his father, while being beaten and tasered? Now what do you think would have happened if some of the witnesses had decided not just to be bystanders but to intervene to tell the cops to stop? Or imagine that it was a cop who had been assaulted in that fashion - do you think the perps would all make it to the station, let alone trial?
And did you notice I wrote "Face the electric chair", not "string 'em up from the nearest tree"? I do want them to face trial - for murder in the 1st degree. What will it take for the Blue Brotherhood to realize that "to serve and protect" doesn't mean "licensed to kill".
Sarah Palin was criticizing Obama and blaming environmetalists for the spill in late May; the National Republican Council had an attack ad against Obama airing by May 27th ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVehAAwh0gY ) and Bobby Jindal was calling for an overturn of the moratorium on offshore drilling by mid-June.
Also, BP USA is really an amalgam of several major companies, most home grown, including Amoco, Arco, Veco, Castrol and has tight relations with Halliburton, Kellogg_Brown_&_Root, etc. One other factor that probably made BP look bad was MSNBC ( Rachel Maddow ), in late May ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmhxpQEGPo ) reviving a story from June 1979, showing that techniques hadn't changed in 30 years, drawing several unfortunate but accurate links to both stories, including that one company that was involved wad Sedco, which later became TransOcean.
There were quite a bit of shenanigans in the 2000 election as well. Of over 90000 excluded voters in Florida, purportedly because of felony convictions, over 95% of them were found to have been unfairly excluded.
One of the reasons why the Tea Party did so well as unseating House Democrats last year was because most of the extra people who turned out to vote for Obama in 2008 STAYED HOME.
A dear friend of mine, one of the most talented and intelligent women I've ever met, fluent in 6 languages and a certified pilot on several large jets incl Boeing 767s complained on Facebook that Obama ( who she likes and voted for ) annoyed her by interrupting her viewing of the Bachelorette.
Any nerd who decides to fuck a beauty queen should watch this from beginning to end - at least 5 times ( and to avoid chicks from states beginning with A )
Something else about ultra-capacitors - their efficiency needs to improve and they need to be safer. Read the link below about ultra-cap electric buses catching fire
A very good point and one that most people just don't get. I've lost count of the number of times that someone talks about the 500-mile battery without realizing just how much electricity would have to be delivered to charge it in a reasonable amount of time. And fast-charging it to 80%? Stand way, way, way back from the electric force field that's about to vaporize your car. What the super-battery crowd don't get is that pumping gas into your ICE's tank is roughly the same as delivering electrical energy at about 2 MW.
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You should probably give tranquilizers to some deputies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipb_PeXOdT4
Speaking of "tried and convicted", here's something that some of your cop friends need to have drilled into their thick skulls - mental illness and homelessness are not
capital crimes and passing a death sentence is the job of a jury, not "peace" officers.
"Vile, irrational pieces of shit" - yeah, you don't have any prejudices of your own. I said they should FACE the electric chair and 1st degree murder charges, because it has become clear that cops need to face a stronger deterrent. It's been far too easy, for far too long to justify their frequently unwarranted brutality.
I've seen nurses, most of them female, and orderlies deal with psychotic or agitated patients - so far, not one has had to break a patient's limbs, strangle them or beat their faces into the floor. I don't know how big and strong the Fullerton Fuzz are, but unless they're recruiting from the Tiny Tim academy, they're probably well above average.
If even 3 of them couldn't handle a 140 lb unarmed crazy person whether or not he was fighting back, they are incompetent.
There's a legal definition of murder but it's not the only one - here are two that should be understandable to everyone : 1.) To kill another human unlawfully ( note: this can apply even to those who purportedly serve the law ) , 2) To kill brutally or inhumanly ( and don't take my word for it; here's what Kelly Thomas' father, a retired Orange County police officer had to say “When I first walked into the hospital, I looked at what his mother described as my son I didn’t recognize him,” Thomas said. “This is cold-blooded, aggravated murder.”
Now the officer you mentioned, Jay Cincinelli definitely didn't deserve being shot multiple times and he's lucky he's not seriously disabled ( beyond the loss of an eye ) or crippled. But, if he played a part in the brutal beating and murder of a homeless schizophrenic, he deserves no sympathy. Yes, if they all walk, I will be pissed. It happens far too often. President GWH Bush was appalled at the Rodney King beating - and King was easily twice the size of Kelly Thomas. While things are changing with respect to prosecution, the Blue Brotherhood quickly close ranks and make an investigation difficult. Witness the police bullshit that happened in Canada last year for the G20 summit. Also, it makes no sense that cops are held to a lesser standard than soldiers. Any US soldier that did this to a foreign national would be lucky to get less than 15 years at hard labor.
"Killing is part of the job" - only if you work in an abbattoir or are enlisted during wartime. Anyone who believes otherwise shouldn't be permitted to carry a weapon.
Did you watch the clip? Did you note that he was on the ground screaming for his father, while being beaten and tasered? Now what do you think would have happened if some of the witnesses had decided not just to be bystanders but to intervene to tell the cops to stop?
Or imagine that it was a cop who had been assaulted in that fashion - do you think the perps would all make it to the station, let alone trial?
And did you notice I wrote "Face the electric chair", not "string 'em up from the nearest tree"? I do want them to face trial - for murder in the 1st degree.
What will it take for the Blue Brotherhood to realize that "to serve and protect" doesn't mean "licensed to kill".
And some should face the electric chair - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ljYNgLnpxM ( Murder of Kelly Thomas by 6 police officers, tasered and beaten to death )
Based on his alias, it's almost expected that he be irrational or erratic.
Your facts and timelines are inaccurate - the spill happened April 20th 2010, on Apr 30th, Obama announced that BP would be held responsible including cleanup and restoration ( http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/04/30/4426189-obama-again-addresses-oil-spill ).
Tony Hayward announced BP acceptance of the cost and ultimate responsibility on May 3rd ( http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/2010/05/gulf-oil-spill-bp-accepts-responsibility-for-oil-cleanup.html).
Sarah Palin was criticizing Obama and blaming environmetalists for the spill in late May; the National Republican Council had an attack ad against Obama airing by May 27th ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVehAAwh0gY ) and Bobby Jindal was calling for an overturn of the moratorium on offshore drilling by mid-June.
Also, BP USA is really an amalgam of several major companies, most home grown, including Amoco, Arco, Veco, Castrol and has tight relations with Halliburton, Kellogg_Brown_&_Root, etc. One other factor that probably made BP look bad was MSNBC ( Rachel Maddow ), in late May ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmhxpQEGPo ) reviving a story from June 1979, showing that techniques hadn't changed in 30 years, drawing several unfortunate but accurate links to both stories, including that one company that was involved wad Sedco, which later became TransOcean.
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Which, in my not so humble opinion, puts the lie to America being a Christian nation.
Tolkien was secretly an economist?
Obama's administration hasn't been good at all about protecting freedoms. The only way I seem him threatening a veto is as a bargaining chip.
Nope. But we should exclude visible minorities as they aren't Real Americans.
You need to cut that number in half as you're including children too young to work ( and there are other exclusions )
Greenman3610 is awesome.
There were quite a bit of shenanigans in the 2000 election as well. Of over 90000 excluded voters in Florida, purportedly because of felony convictions, over 95% of them were found to have been unfairly excluded.
You're taking that on faith, not on evidence. That's a poor way to make decisions.
Seems to work quite well for the right-wing as a decision-making process.
One of the reasons why the Tea Party did so well as unseating House Democrats last year was because most of the extra people who turned out to vote for Obama in 2008 STAYED HOME.
A dear friend of mine, one of the most talented and intelligent women I've ever met, fluent in 6 languages and a certified pilot on several large jets incl Boeing 767s complained on Facebook that Obama ( who she likes and voted for ) annoyed her by interrupting her viewing of the Bachelorette.
This one will make you feel better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QBv2CFTSWU
Any nerd who decides to fuck a beauty queen should watch this from beginning to end - at least 5 times ( and to avoid chicks from states beginning with A )
Something else about ultra-capacitors - their efficiency needs to improve and they need to be safer. Read the link below about ultra-cap electric buses catching fire
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1063473_chinese-electric-bus-catches-fire-on-road-not-the-first-one
Then one of you will end up with 2 lumps of steel.
What's your sentence for the Duggars, of "19 and counting" fame?
A very good point and one that most people just don't get. I've lost count of the number of times that someone talks about the 500-mile battery without realizing just how much electricity would have to be delivered to charge it in a reasonable amount of time. And fast-charging it to 80%? Stand way, way, way back from the electric force field that's about to vaporize your car.
What the super-battery crowd don't get is that pumping gas into your ICE's tank is roughly the same as delivering electrical energy at about 2 MW.