FYI on an unrelated matter, from a previous discussion, SpaceX is now *tentatively* launching Falcon Heavy on Feb 6th or 7th, which is a couple days ahead of Hamcation. So you may have to make your way out there a few days early.
Approaching a fire truck parked on the highway gives you a LOT more than a split second to apply the brakes.
I think the Auto Emerg Braking may have kicked in. It doesn't look like the airbags were triggered and I would have expected a LOT more damage for at collision at 65 mph.
From what I've heard & seen, the Model 3 is pretty good car and handles well; more nimbly than a Model S thanks to the lighter weight. But it's still no match for a Corvette, except for a short run. You're not going to get hours of hauling ass or going balls out at the track for an afternoon.
The EP9 is considered a production car although I don't agree with that classification. The Exagon Furtive completed several Nurburgring runs, driven by Queen Sabine herself but I don't consider that production either. When you're up in the very expensive, low-volume brackets, "production" is hard to classify as most of those cars are bespoke. It's telling that Ferrari is always hesitant to allow their cars to be tested unsupervised, something that MotorTrend says isn't a problem for any other automaker
"Straight line acceleration is only a very small consideration for performance. Could a Tesla S beat a Ferrari around a track?"
Straight line accel wasn't a problem until Tesla came along:-D No, a Model S isn't made for the track unlike many performance sedans - it needs to have more cooling and to give the option to turn off regen or dial it down more as that heats up the pack too quickly under the kind of frequent braking needed on a demanding road course.
"I don't think anyone knows because EVs tend to overheat and turn off performance on any track actually designed to test a vehicle such as Nübergring"
Whoa, let's not jump to conclusions. You can't simply lump all EVs into this basket because the most common ones aren't designed for a famous track. FYI, Teslas and others do very well on shorter courses. The Green Hell is a special case. That said, the NextEV NIO EP9, a pure battery electric that uses on *air* cooling for the battery pack took on the Nurburgring and shaved almost 2 full seconds off the (then) production vehicle record time that had stood since 2010 when set by the Pagani Zonda. I expect the Rimac Concept One which has considerably better cooling than the Model S would also perform respectably around the 'ring.
The Grand Tour had a Rimac to play with - and crashed & burned it. But they were mightily impressed with it's performance, leaving all competitors in the dust. Let's hope they're a bit more careful with these upcoming supercars.
" think how much fun it will be to watch Richard Hammond crash a Ferrari into oblivion" How much do you hate him? I think in a Ferrari, he'd probably would have died.
"I wish they'd put out an electric sports car, with a range of at least 400+ miles to a charge, 2-seater and make it comparable in price to a corvette (not the Z06)....more of the base model.
I'd scoop one up in a heartbeat.:"
Wouldn't we all. But that's a pretty tall order. You may get the 1st two fulfilled in the next 5 years but I don't see it happening for $50k in the next 10 yrs.
How about by not fucking meddling & fixing my own domestic problems? Russia's been playing games a long time, long before Obama was elected. Aside from oil, Russia has nothing America wants & they can get it in trade. If they should be worried about anyone, it should be the 2 very large nearby nations filled with billions of brown & yellow people and who also have nukes.
"Tesla has a pretty huge advantage over other companies, in that there is a TON of data from around the world, in so many different conditions"
Very true but you have to be able to make sense of all that data. Tests by Tesla owners selectively covering the cameras to see at which point Autopilot would become unavailable found that it's only using the front camera / radar, just like the old system. Whether or not they're collecting data from the other sensors is unknown but their progress has been minimal in the past 6 months. Also after promising a x-country autonomous drive by end of 2017, not only has it not been accomplished by no revised timeline has yet been offered.
At this point, today's launch was by-the-numbers and something we've become used to even if SpaceX is the only company demonstrably capable of landing a 1st stage from the edge of space, even if it's only been 2 years since their 1st successful landing. The long awaited Falcon Heavy is their next big challenge and another major milestone if they succeed.
Keep crying. I'm sure businesses will start taking risks that could cost them billions if you whine loud enough.
Businesses depend to some extent on the goodwill of their customers. And not only do they frequently make the wrong decision in handling product flaws, they stubbornly refuse to learn that the coverup usually has a worse outcome than the crime.
This is what's is objectionable about Intel's behavior
"He ended up having to "prove" to Intel that he was doing things correctly and that their chip was doing math wrong, and before he got a replacement CPU he had to sign an NDA. After doing all of that over the course of weeks/months he finally got a new chip--and then a week or two after that Intel publicly admitted to the fuck up and replaced everyone's chip for free"
Having to prove he was doing things right is perfectly fine but making a customer who has just given you a big heads up on a huge fuck-up on your part wait months? And gagging him with an NDA? That's assholery.
'merely by sending it the byte sequence "F0 0F C7 C8".' Ã am pretty sure that it wasn't enough to "send" the byte sequence. That assumes that you could trigger the bug remotely. Instead you would need to execute that code sequence, so you need permissions to install software. Still bad, but not a huge deal 20 years ago, when computers with Intel CPUs were almost always single-user machines.
There were many ways to remotely kill or compromise machines back then. A friend who worked tech support would get pesky customers off the phone by WinNuke'ing them
"Yea, the ocean hasn't warmed more than 0.1 degree in the past 50 years, way less than has happened in the past 10,000-100000 years" Yea, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about From IPCC AR5 Assessment - https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assess...
"Ocean warming dominates the increase in energy stored in the climate system, accounting for more than 90% of the energy accumulated between 1971 and 2010 (high confidence), with only about 1% stored in the atmosphere. On a global scale, the ocean warming is largest near the surface, and the upper 75 m warmed by 0.11 [0.09 to 0.13] C per decade over the period 1971 to 2010. It is virtually certain that the upper ocean (0700 m) warmed from 1971 to 2010, and it likely warmed between the 1870s and 1971. {1.1.2, Figure 1.2}"
This was true in the first generation Leaf, after that battery tech has advanced enough where the batteries are lasting the life of the vehicle. There is a Volt owner with over 400k miles with no shown battery loss still.
The early Volts had a very large reserve, about 36% as it allowed only 10.3 kWh to be used out of a total storage of 16 kWh. The Model S reserves only 4 kWh out of the 85 kWh ( really 82 kWh) pack
"Just look at all the things they promised in 2014 around their initial autopilot suite, in fact there isn't even a single thing listed from that original presentation that the current cars can do"
Really? See link below for the *October* 2014 event (so the year was almost over) and tell us what was promised & is missing. I gather there's going to be quite a few items on that list. https://youtu.be/FZ6lZJWL_Xk?t...
Slashdot Mirror
Looks like it's dying, as predicted
"If you don't think a Russian can get drunk enough to kill himself by falling all over the place, you've never gotten drunk with a Russian"
Boris Yeltsin got so drunk on a trip to Washington DC in '95, he tried to hail a cab to go get a pizza wearing nothing but his tighty-whities
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
FYI on an unrelated matter, from a previous discussion, SpaceX is now *tentatively* launching Falcon Heavy on Feb 6th or 7th, which is a couple days ahead of Hamcation.
So you may have to make your way out there a few days early.
or as Intel will try to frame it - next-gen performance and security!!
Approaching a fire truck parked on the highway gives you a LOT more than a split second to apply the brakes.
I think the Auto Emerg Braking may have kicked in. It doesn't look like the airbags were triggered and I would have expected a LOT more damage for at collision at 65 mph.
From what I've heard & seen, the Model 3 is pretty good car and handles well; more nimbly than a Model S thanks to the lighter weight.
But it's still no match for a Corvette, except for a short run. You're not going to get hours of hauling ass or going balls out at the track for an afternoon.
The EP9 is considered a production car although I don't agree with that classification.
The Exagon Furtive completed several Nurburgring runs, driven by Queen Sabine herself but I don't consider that production either.
When you're up in the very expensive, low-volume brackets, "production" is hard to classify as most of those cars are bespoke.
It's telling that Ferrari is always hesitant to allow their cars to be tested unsupervised, something that MotorTrend says isn't a problem for any other automaker
"Straight line acceleration is only a very small consideration for performance. Could a Tesla S beat a Ferrari around a track?"
Straight line accel wasn't a problem until Tesla came along :-D
No, a Model S isn't made for the track unlike many performance sedans - it needs to have more cooling and to give the option to turn off regen or dial it down more as that heats up the pack too quickly under the kind of frequent braking needed on a demanding road course.
"I don't think anyone knows because EVs tend to overheat and turn off performance on any track actually designed to test a vehicle such as Nübergring"
Whoa, let's not jump to conclusions. You can't simply lump all EVs into this basket because the most common ones aren't designed for a famous track. FYI, Teslas and others do very well on shorter courses.
The Green Hell is a special case.
That said, the NextEV NIO EP9, a pure battery electric that uses on *air* cooling for the battery pack took on the Nurburgring and shaved almost 2 full seconds off the (then) production vehicle record time that had stood since 2010 when set by the Pagani Zonda.
I expect the Rimac Concept One which has considerably better cooling than the Model S would also perform respectably around the 'ring.
America should maybe stop interfering in Eastern Europe and the Caucasus, then.
I'd rather see an end to meddling in the Middle East - which is REAL meddling.
"Eastern Europe & the Caucasus"? Don't make me laugh.
The Grand Tour had a Rimac to play with - and crashed & burned it.
But they were mightily impressed with it's performance, leaving all competitors in the dust.
Let's hope they're a bit more careful with these upcoming supercars.
" think how much fun it will be to watch Richard Hammond crash a Ferrari into oblivion"
How much do you hate him? I think in a Ferrari, he'd probably would have died.
"I wish they'd put out an electric sports car, with a range of at least 400+ miles to a charge, 2-seater and make it comparable in price to a corvette (not the Z06)....more of the base model.
I'd scoop one up in a heartbeat.:"
Wouldn't we all. But that's a pretty tall order. You may get the 1st two fulfilled in the next 5 years but I don't see it happening for $50k in the next 10 yrs.
That distinction goes to the Rimac Concept One
How about by not fucking meddling & fixing my own domestic problems?
Russia's been playing games a long time, long before Obama was elected.
Aside from oil, Russia has nothing America wants & they can get it in trade. If they should be worried about anyone, it should be the 2 very large nearby nations filled with billions of brown & yellow people and who also have nukes.
"Tesla has a pretty huge advantage over other companies, in that there is a TON of data from around the world, in so many different conditions"
Very true but you have to be able to make sense of all that data. Tests by Tesla owners selectively covering the cameras to see at which point Autopilot would become unavailable found that it's only using the front camera / radar, just like the old system.
Whether or not they're collecting data from the other sensors is unknown but their progress has been minimal in the past 6 months.
Also after promising a x-country autonomous drive by end of 2017, not only has it not been accomplished by no revised timeline has yet been offered.
"a bunch of garbage 945 chipsets with the "Vista Capable" fiasco"
It was even worse than that. It was the entry-level 915 which couldn't paint a postage stamp in alternating black & white stripes to save its life.
At this point, today's launch was by-the-numbers and something we've become used to even if SpaceX is the only company demonstrably capable of landing a 1st stage from the edge of space, even if it's only been 2 years since their 1st successful landing.
The long awaited Falcon Heavy is their next big challenge and another major milestone if they succeed.
Keep crying. I'm sure businesses will start taking risks that could cost them billions if you whine loud enough.
Businesses depend to some extent on the goodwill of their customers.
And not only do they frequently make the wrong decision in handling product flaws, they stubbornly refuse to learn that the coverup usually has a worse outcome than the crime.
Assholery and "how things work" are not mutually exclusive. Ask any of the #MeToo complainants.
This is what's is objectionable about Intel's behavior
"He ended up having to "prove" to Intel that he was doing things correctly and that their chip was doing math wrong, and before he got a replacement CPU he had to sign an NDA. After doing all of that over the course of weeks/months he finally got a new chip--and then a week or two after that Intel publicly admitted to the fuck up and replaced everyone's chip for free"
Having to prove he was doing things right is perfectly fine but making a customer who has just given you a big heads up on a huge fuck-up on your part wait months? And gagging him with an NDA?
That's assholery.
'merely by sending it the byte sequence "F0 0F C7 C8".'
à am pretty sure that it wasn't enough to "send" the byte sequence. That assumes that you could trigger the bug remotely. Instead you would need to execute that code sequence, so you need permissions to install software. Still bad, but not a huge deal 20 years ago, when computers with Intel CPUs were almost always single-user machines.
There were many ways to remotely kill or compromise machines back then. A friend who worked tech support would get pesky customers off the phone by WinNuke'ing them
"Yea, the ocean hasn't warmed more than 0.1 degree in the past 50 years, way less than has happened in the past 10,000-100000 years"
Yea, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
From IPCC AR5 Assessment - https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assess...
"Ocean warming dominates the increase in energy stored in the climate system, accounting for more than 90% of the energy
accumulated between 1971 and 2010 (high confidence), with only about 1% stored in the atmosphere. On a global scale,
the ocean warming is largest near the surface, and the upper 75 m warmed by 0.11 [0.09 to 0.13] C per decade over the
period 1971 to 2010. It is virtually certain that the upper ocean (0700 m) warmed from 1971 to 2010, and it likely warmed
between the 1870s and 1971. {1.1.2, Figure 1.2}"
This was true in the first generation Leaf, after that battery tech has advanced enough where the batteries are lasting the life of the vehicle. There is a Volt owner with over 400k miles with no shown battery loss still.
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1112485_2012-chevy-volt-has-now-crossed-400000-miles-range-remains-steady
The early Volts had a very large reserve, about 36% as it allowed only 10.3 kWh to be used out of a total storage of 16 kWh.
The Model S reserves only 4 kWh out of the 85 kWh ( really 82 kWh) pack
"Just look at all the things they promised in 2014 around their initial autopilot suite, in fact there isn't even a single thing listed from that original presentation that the current cars can do"
Really? See link below for the *October* 2014 event (so the year was almost over) and tell us what was promised & is missing. I gather there's going to be quite a few items on that list.
https://youtu.be/FZ6lZJWL_Xk?t...
Isn't how it works, you fire employees and expect more production.
That's what Made America Great