They very much were. I've seen photos of them together; fully clothed, thank heaven. Sometimes what we think is attraction is really domination of a weaker personality.
Roman Polanski treated poor Sharon Tate horribly, cheated on her & bullied her into orgies. And that wasn't the worst he was capable of, as we later found out. It's pretty hard to seem to be *less* deserving of sympathy than Charles Manson so it's ironic that the most famous surviving victim of his has managed it in the eyes of quite a few people.
"Can you imagine Toyota telling us about their new 2019 cars in mid-2017?... or is it already happening and Intel are just copying car companies now?"
That's pretty much what most automakers are telling us about their electric car roadmap. "We have fuck-all now but we'll own the segment after 2020. #KickTeslaAss"
Actually the shuttle spent MANY years as old hat. It after the first 3-4 years it only really made the news 3 times. The two explosions and the last missions.
That's too bad because it proved to be a very expensive antique hat, on the order of $500 MILLION PER LAUNCH!! Much as I liked the idea of the shuttle, in the end the costs were much too high
"(Remember that Tesla sedan broke down due to overheat on the Nurenberg Ring lap when they tried to drive it around at sportcars' pace, despite having nominally about 750bhp / 600Nm in 4-wheel drive mode.)" Can fixed with better cooling & allowing regen to be turned off.
"But I think they need to move beyond cars and expand into infrastructure to do that" Already underway but I think Musk should forget about Boring & Hyperloop and build up the energy storage business & look at becoming or partnering with a utility. Getting the Tres Amigas Superstation built & operating would be a huge win both for renewables & grid stability across the US South from Miami to Mt Shasta and backing it with battery storage would be a triumph for Tesla.
Tesla was always somewhat eccentric & became increasingly so in old age. But thanks to George Westinghouse, Tesla's ideas & inventions became the foundation for the electrical grid. Westinghouse doesn't get enough credit & recognition for his work & achievements. His 1st invention, at age 22, of failsafe simultaneousa air brakes for railway cars is worthy of a medal & has probably saved many thousands of lives. Prior to that, brakemen had to run from car to car, applying brakes manually on each car!!
Decentralized is the way to go, but utilities and cities are panicking over it.
There was an article where someone went offgrid, had rain water buckets, wind and solar panel, and they condemned the place for not having utilities. There is some concern over the powers that be getting upset for not getting their piece of pie and are worried others will follow.
That was in Florida, or I like to call it WTFlorida
This sounds quite like Desertec, or at least a small variant or part thereof.
I'd hope for such a project to bring some more stability to the region, if it ever goes anywhere.
That was my thought, as I'd stumbled across the Desertec project years ago & thought it was worthwhile but unlikely given the political realities. It would be good for that region to have some other source of power / revenue than petrodollars.
OK, I was under the impression that he was worth more at the time. Still having your net worth reduced from $150 million to $80 million, still doesn't affect your quality of life too much. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that he made the investment. Too many are sitting on fortunes now instead of investing it in something constructive.
He didn't put more into Tesla because he was the lone financial backer for SpaceX, supposedly to the tune of $100 million, up until the company started winning contracts.
That you can't see the difference is indicative of someone who is completely clueless about humans, or of someone who is being intentionally obtuse in order to avoid discussing a tactic they employ against others. I wonder which one you are?
$70 million for Musk is pocket change. Even if Tesla was a total failure, it wouldn't have changed his life. Much like if I invested $70 in something, no sacrifice involved.
It wasn't pocket change at the time - probably 40% of his net worth. The company came vey close to bankruptcy, reportedly were down to only enough cash for another couple weeks operation when Musk brokered a deal with Daimler & Toyota.
"And how many of those institutions have the money flow into one person's pocket?" The only real money Musk makes is from stock & he only gets additional shares when he meets certain goals. He's put over $70 million of his own money into Tesla in the early years; I'm sure he could have done very nicely in much safer investments
"In large part, the subsidies that affect Tesla's products have had the perverse effect of hurting the company"
Seems that's the case with California ZEV credits. Musk claims Tesla often can't find buyers & usually only gets 50 cents on the dollar whereas GM et al get to claim full price. However, I'm not sure how to calculate the value of a ZEV credit - what's one worth? Does it change from quarter to quarter, year to year?
SpaceX and its commercial-spaceflight competitors can experiment because Congress and President Barack Obama agreed to protect them from Federal Aviation Administration standards.
If anything, when the overhyped and unworkable Hyperloop goes nowhere (based on its own merits), this sounds like a pretense to spin the failure as "Thanks Trump."
If anything Trump will either be gone by then or so marginalized as to be irrelevant.
As far as I understand the graphene is only there to protect the nickel from oxidation, so it's possible that it will be replaced with something cheaper.
I have to wonder why they used it in the 1st place if there are alternatives. It's likely that there are no alternatives, for now.
This is the difference between cons and libs. When cons get called a name, we proudly rebut that we are in fact deplorables, shaking off any "butthurt" that it might have engendered. When libs get called a name, they argue by assertion that their opposition is actually the group of snowflakes, proving their "butthurt" in being called said name.
Except that Jeff Sessions was very "butthurt" about being called a racist & there's no shortage of conservatives & Republicans who've argued since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of '64 that the true racists are liberals & Democrats.
"is a three-layer structure of nickel, graphene and a compound of iron, manganese and phosphorus" that requires graphene.... aka unobtainium for at least the next couple decades
I don't think those are real people.
They very much were. I've seen photos of them together; fully clothed, thank heaven.
Sometimes what we think is attraction is really domination of a weaker personality.
Roman Polanski treated poor Sharon Tate horribly, cheated on her & bullied her into orgies.
And that wasn't the worst he was capable of, as we later found out.
It's pretty hard to seem to be *less* deserving of sympathy than Charles Manson so it's ironic that the most famous surviving victim of his has managed it in the eyes of quite a few people.
Nice counterexample.
Now explain Anna Nicole Smith & J Howard Marshall
Women will overlook a lot of physical shortcomings if you're a decent guy.
Quite a few happily look up to a midget standing on his wallet
"Can you imagine Toyota telling us about their new 2019 cars in mid-2017? ... or is it already happening and Intel are just copying car companies now?"
That's pretty much what most automakers are telling us about their electric car roadmap.
"We have fuck-all now but we'll own the segment after 2020. #KickTeslaAss"
Actually the shuttle spent MANY years as old hat. It after the first 3-4 years it only really made the news 3 times. The two explosions and the last missions.
That's too bad because it proved to be a very expensive antique hat, on the order of $500 MILLION PER LAUNCH!!
Much as I liked the idea of the shuttle, in the end the costs were much too high
"(Remember that Tesla sedan broke down due to overheat on the Nurenberg Ring lap when they tried to drive it around at sportcars' pace, despite having nominally about 750bhp / 600Nm in 4-wheel drive mode.)"
Can fixed with better cooling & allowing regen to be turned off.
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed.....
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
W.B. Yeats, The Second Coming
Not slouching towards Bethlehem but lurching ever closer to Judgment Day
I'm no expert either but from what I've read, most of the US corn crop goes to animal feed. One would thing that should be profitable.
"But I think they need to move beyond cars and expand into infrastructure to do that"
Already underway but I think Musk should forget about Boring & Hyperloop and build up the energy storage business & look at becoming or partnering with a utility.
Getting the Tres Amigas Superstation built & operating would be a huge win both for renewables & grid stability across the US South from Miami to Mt Shasta and backing it with battery storage would be a triumph for Tesla.
Tesla was always somewhat eccentric & became increasingly so in old age.
But thanks to George Westinghouse, Tesla's ideas & inventions became the foundation for the electrical grid.
Westinghouse doesn't get enough credit & recognition for his work & achievements.
His 1st invention, at age 22, of failsafe simultaneousa air brakes for railway cars is worthy of a medal & has probably saved many thousands of lives.
Prior to that, brakemen had to run from car to car, applying brakes manually on each car!!
Decentralized is the way to go, but utilities and cities are panicking over it.
There was an article where someone went offgrid, had rain water buckets, wind and solar panel, and they condemned the place for not having utilities.
There is some concern over the powers that be getting upset for not getting their piece of pie and are worried others will follow.
That was in Florida, or I like to call it WTFlorida
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This sounds quite like Desertec, or at least a small variant or part thereof.
I'd hope for such a project to bring some more stability to the region, if it ever goes anywhere.
That was my thought, as I'd stumbled across the Desertec project years ago & thought it was worthwhile but unlikely given the political realities. It would be good for that region to have some other source of power / revenue than petrodollars.
OK, I was under the impression that he was worth more at the time. Still having your net worth reduced from $150 million to $80 million, still doesn't affect your quality of life too much.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that he made the investment. Too many are sitting on fortunes now instead of investing it in something constructive.
He didn't put more into Tesla because he was the lone financial backer for SpaceX, supposedly to the tune of $100 million, up until the company started winning contracts.
That you can't see the difference is indicative of someone who is completely clueless about humans, or of someone who is being intentionally obtuse in order to avoid discussing a tactic they employ against others. I wonder which one you are?
Obviously I'm both. And a pedo.
$70 million for Musk is pocket change. Even if Tesla was a total failure, it wouldn't have changed his life. Much like if I invested $70 in something, no sacrifice involved.
It wasn't pocket change at the time - probably 40% of his net worth. The company came vey close to bankruptcy, reportedly were down to only enough cash for another couple weeks operation when Musk brokered a deal with Daimler & Toyota.
"And how many of those institutions have the money flow into one person's pocket?"
The only real money Musk makes is from stock & he only gets additional shares when he meets certain goals.
He's put over $70 million of his own money into Tesla in the early years; I'm sure he could have done very nicely in much safer investments
"Why do we pay for corn farms for ethanol?"
I'm pretty sure corn is heavily subsidized regardless of how much is used for ethanol
"In large part, the subsidies that affect Tesla's products have had the perverse effect of hurting the company"
Seems that's the case with California ZEV credits. Musk claims Tesla often can't find buyers & usually only gets 50 cents on the dollar whereas GM et al get to claim full price. However, I'm not sure how to calculate the value of a ZEV credit - what's one worth? Does it change from quarter to quarter, year to year?
How would you feel if I called you a pedo?
I just make that statement about you, if you get mad and defend yourself, then it proves me right. SJW logic.
Why would I get mad about something that's not true?
SpaceX and its commercial-spaceflight competitors can experiment because Congress and President Barack Obama agreed to protect them from Federal Aviation Administration standards.
If anything, when the overhyped and unworkable Hyperloop goes nowhere (based on its own merits), this sounds like a pretense to spin the failure as "Thanks Trump."
If anything Trump will either be gone by then or so marginalized as to be irrelevant.
As far as I understand the graphene is only there to protect the nickel from oxidation, so it's possible that it will be replaced with something cheaper.
I have to wonder why they used it in the 1st place if there are alternatives. It's likely that there are no alternatives, for now.
> angry conservative snowflake
This is the difference between cons and libs. When cons get called a name, we proudly rebut that we are in fact deplorables, shaking off any "butthurt" that it might have engendered. When libs get called a name, they argue by assertion that their opposition is actually the group of snowflakes, proving their "butthurt" in being called said name.
Except that Jeff Sessions was very "butthurt" about being called a racist & there's no shortage of conservatives & Republicans who've argued since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of '64 that the true racists are liberals & Democrats.
"is a three-layer structure of nickel, graphene and a compound of iron, manganese and phosphorus"
that requires graphene.... aka unobtainium for at least the next couple decades
"absolutely nothung racist"
thanks for the self-description but we knew this already
Still citing a fake story created by 4Chan and carried by CNN? Try to catch up please.
One that Trump keeps mentioning?