If we cared so much about them, we would not have been arming all sides of a multi-nation conflict while getting their natural resources at bargain basement prices. If we truly cared and wanted to make amends for centuries of meddling and oppression, we'd help them build the best available nuclear, hydroelectric and even gas turbines. But not coal. Not if we cared.
You're overlooking the cost of coal pollution, especially the health impact on countries where life expectancy and health care is already well below 1st world standards.
"Running at 30 mph continuous......" that's not what the Dutch kids did - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxZYzDGQ8KY (turn on captions for English translation if necessary)
It doesn't make sense that city driving in a car with the Model S' strong regen braking would be lower than motorway driving at 55 mph, for which the estimate is 301 miles. So the difference must be because you don't normally charge to the full 81 kWh if you're not going on a long trip aka "range charge"
If you look at the range vs speed curve at http://www.teslamotors.com/goelectric#range , you'll see that a speed of 30 mph gets you approx. 400 miles which is borne out by the real-world testing of teams in Florida & Holland
So it's about 500 kJ/km. That difference gets swallowed up by the other factors, assuming they are accurate and you don't say how you derived the numbers for battery manufacturing.
You're also assuming that no energy is used in getting the diesel from well to vehicle tank? According to the DOE, the efficiency of refining and distribution is 83%. And your number for MPG seems too high but leaving that aside and assuming all other numbers are correct we get 1552 kJ/km for the Tesla and 1690 * 1.17 or 1977 kJ/km for the diesel which is a difference of 22% Clearly nothing to sneeze at.
As I've been saying for years - solar carports on every parking lot, giving power & shade. The US Southwest, among other places, would benefit greatly from these. If the power is being used to charge EVs, you can bill for it.
If not, you're still providing shade and offsetting some of the use of the businesses / shopping centers.
Perhaps but what would they have said? Death panels? Don't think that would have worked. And that misguided invalid who yelled "Keep your government hands off my Medicare" would have to find something else to be angry about.
The USA has to slim down - the huge ( sorry ) number of very overweight adults and children is a big ( sorry ) drain on the economy and will only makes things worse as the population gets older.
I'm astonished that Obama didn't simply try to promote a "Medicare for All" plan instead of the rehashed Nixoncare that's now the law of the land. Still, it's better than nothing although some people will end up paying more than previously.
The great irony of the situation in the US is that renewable generation is NOT the the biggest factor impact coal-fired power - natural gas is. I'm not a fan of fracking and consider it to have considerable drawbacks but prefer it, for now, over coal.
I see that the chart is using more up to date capacity factors for wind than the 20-25% figure that's typical of the windbagger sites and are still improving. Some newer turbines with better designed, lighter blades and more sophisticated controls are typically in the 45-50% range or even higher. And the most recent report on CCS doesn't fill me with hope that coal plants with underground storage are going to be prevalent any time soon.
Even the Chinese are cracking down on dirty coal plants - their new emissions rules are as good or better than any in the US or Europe, have applied to any new plant built since Jan 2012 and ALL plants must meet the standards by Fall 2014 or be shuttered.
Also most existing coal plants are only really dispatchable in theory - it can be done but doing it frequently has an enormous impact on efficiency, emissions and operating life. Apparently Germany has some advanced coal plants that can be ramped up & down quickly and are 25% more efficient but these are all quite new and expensive.
Thanks for that - I wasn't aware ATI gaming support had improved that much under Linux. An article posted today promises still more improvements in various games under the soon-to-be-released 3.12
That's what the one U.S. rare-earth mine in production, in Mountain Pass, Calif., has done. The mine's operator, Molycorp Inc., invested hundreds of millions of dollars in technologies to recycle wastewater and dramatically reduce tailings when it reopened the 60-year-old site in 2011. That's why Molycorp had no opposition from the Center for Biological Diversity, which has fought many mines, including Rosemont.
Based on what's happened to people I know, especially to one close friend who was very gifted, I can tell you that anyone can lose their way or be forced off the path. In my opinion, those who possess rare mental or creative gifts seem to be much more susceptible.
Horrifying as the images of Krokodil images are, it's really a testament to the destructive power of addiction.
It's easy to theorize that this is just winnowing out the useless but that ignores so much history where talented and wealthy individuals have destroyed their lives through addiction.
Regardless of how superior you believe yourself to be, these people need help and compassion; not to be marginalized as convenient practitioners of auto-eugenics.
Pretty sure the 1st guy I heard tell that joke was an off-duty cop. It was several decades ago but things haven't changed quite as much as some would like us to believe.
Let's not forget that Jesse Helms was elected for 5 Senate terms up until 2003 and only quit because of failing health.
Maybe you should look at it from a historic point of view. Cities in the developed world have come a long way since the 70s. Not to mention the considerable amount of trash that gets shipped to the developing countries - conveniently, America never ratified the '98 Basel Convention so it's not illegal
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If we cared so much about them, we would not have been arming all sides of a multi-nation conflict while getting their natural resources at bargain basement prices.
If we truly cared and wanted to make amends for centuries of meddling and oppression, we'd help them build the best available nuclear, hydroelectric and even gas turbines.
But not coal. Not if we cared.
You're overlooking the cost of coal pollution, especially the health impact on countries where life expectancy and health care is already well below 1st world standards.
"Running at 30 mph continuous......" that's not what the Dutch kids did - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxZYzDGQ8KY (turn on captions for English translation if necessary)
Whoops, that should be 1502 kJ/km for the Tesla so the %age difference is 1502 / 1977 or 24%
It doesn't make sense that city driving in a car with the Model S' strong regen braking would be lower than motorway driving at 55 mph, for which the estimate is 301 miles.
So the difference must be because you don't normally charge to the full 81 kWh if you're not going on a long trip aka "range charge"
If you look at the range vs speed curve at http://www.teslamotors.com/goelectric#range , you'll see that a speed of 30 mph gets you approx. 400 miles which is borne out by the real-world testing of teams in Florida & Holland
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-model-s-goes-388-miles-in-the-netherlands/
So it's about 500 kJ/km.
That difference gets swallowed up by the other factors, assuming they are accurate and you don't say how you derived the numbers for battery manufacturing.
You're also assuming that no energy is used in getting the diesel from well to vehicle tank? According to the DOE, the efficiency of refining and distribution is 83%.
And your number for MPG seems too high but leaving that aside and assuming all other numbers are correct we get 1552 kJ/km for the Tesla and 1690 * 1.17 or 1977 kJ/km for the diesel which is a difference of 22%
Clearly nothing to sneeze at.
As I've been saying for years - solar carports on every parking lot, giving power & shade. The US Southwest, among other places, would benefit greatly from these.
If the power is being used to charge EVs, you can bill for it.
If not, you're still providing shade and offsetting some of the use of the businesses / shopping centers.
No. That's Oracle VM.
VirtualBox was originally from InnoTek based on work done for Connectix and Microsoft VirtualPC.
All the Democrats would have to say is that pre-existing mental problems are covered.
Perhaps but what would they have said?
Death panels? Don't think that would have worked.
And that misguided invalid who yelled "Keep your government hands off my Medicare" would have to find something else to be angry about.
The USA has to slim down - the huge ( sorry ) number of very overweight adults and children is a big ( sorry ) drain on the economy and will only makes things worse as the population gets older.
I'm astonished that Obama didn't simply try to promote a "Medicare for All" plan instead of the rehashed Nixoncare that's now the law of the land.
Still, it's better than nothing although some people will end up paying more than previously.
Well played, sir.
640k (neurons) ought to be enough for anybody
Why are you hating on the makers living the American dream?
That's because of the battery. But all the electricity it uses will be domestic :-)
The great irony of the situation in the US is that renewable generation is NOT the the biggest factor impact coal-fired power - natural gas is. I'm not a fan of fracking and consider it to have considerable drawbacks but prefer it, for now, over coal.
I see that the chart is using more up to date capacity factors for wind than the 20-25% figure that's typical of the windbagger sites and are still improving.
Some newer turbines with better designed, lighter blades and more sophisticated controls are typically in the 45-50% range or even higher.
And the most recent report on CCS doesn't fill me with hope that coal plants with underground storage are going to be prevalent any time soon.
Even the Chinese are cracking down on dirty coal plants - their new emissions rules are as good or better than any in the US or Europe, have applied to any new plant built since Jan 2012 and ALL plants must meet the standards by Fall 2014 or be shuttered.
Also most existing coal plants are only really dispatchable in theory - it can be done but doing it frequently has an enormous impact on efficiency, emissions and operating life. Apparently Germany has some advanced coal plants that can be ramped up & down quickly and are 25% more efficient but these are all quite new and expensive.
Thanks for that - I wasn't aware ATI gaming support had improved that much under Linux. An article posted today promises still more improvements in various games under the soon-to-be-released 3.12
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_linux312_preview&num=1
Anything can be done badly and rare earth mining does require the use of many toxic chemicals but that can be managed.
From http://azstarnet.com/business/local/big-pollution-risk-seen-in-rare-earth-mining/article_c604dd80-7a8d-5ab5-8342-0f9b8dbb35fb.html
Wind power has been at grid parity about 10 years in most places in the US & Europe and its LCoE is still falling.
Or by electrocution? He did also give us the electric chair :-)
"I have not failed. I've successfully discovered 10,000 ways that do not work" - Thomas Edison.
So we just need someone 1/2 as persistent as Edison to get it done.
Based on what's happened to people I know, especially to one close friend who was very gifted, I can tell you that anyone can lose their way or be forced off the path.
In my opinion, those who possess rare mental or creative gifts seem to be much more susceptible.
Horrifying as the images of Krokodil images are, it's really a testament to the destructive power of addiction.
It's easy to theorize that this is just winnowing out the useless but that ignores so much history where talented and wealthy individuals have destroyed their lives through addiction.
Regardless of how superior you believe yourself to be, these people need help and compassion; not to be marginalized as convenient practitioners of auto-eugenics.
Pretty sure the 1st guy I heard tell that joke was an off-duty cop.
It was several decades ago but things haven't changed quite as much as some would like us to believe.
Let's not forget that Jesse Helms was elected for 5 Senate terms up until 2003 and only quit because of failing health.
DWB?? Driving While Black? That's a very serious condition in many parts of America that tends to outweigh any other characteristic or accomplishment.
Here's an old joke that's still relevant:
Q: What do you call a black millionaire heart surgeon who's been pulled over in his Porsche?
A: A nigger
Maybe you should look at it from a historic point of view. Cities in the developed world have come a long way since the 70s.
Not to mention the considerable amount of trash that gets shipped to the developing countries - conveniently, America never ratified the '98 Basel Convention so it's not illegal