That's waht the market will bear. I think it's retarded they make so much, but Americans are more concerned with season tickets in good seats than important issues. Not that football is bad (I have no interest in it), but there's no reason to ignore everything else going on around you in politics, sciencem etc. just because you enjoy a particular sport.
Extreme range is why I prefer to drive my old 1 ton 4x4 on long drives. It will take me ~800 miles with the 57 gallons it holds. Even my old '68 full size with a big block will get me ~400 miles on a tank. Back when I had it, my '63 Falcon would get just shy of 500 miles on the highway. Means fewer stops and less aggrivation. Newer vehicles don't offer that. Fuel economy isn't much better, but for the little they do improve MPG they decrease fuel tank size, which negates the benefit of a slight MPG increase.
Give me a compact car (Falcon sized, not modern uncomfortable death trap sized) that gets 40-50 MPG and has a 16-25 gallon tank and I'll be thrilled. Oh wait, I can get that with a early '60s Ford Falcon, which gets 32-33 MPG from the factory, but adding an overdrive transmission and doing a proper engine build for economy using some modern techniques and parts.. And still have a nice looking vehicle that's simple and cheap to own and operate.
I see nothing in the new economy car market that competes with that, especially from electric vehicles. Maybe their time will come, but I don't see EV as anything practical except in a major matro area, where (I find) driving is more expensive and more aggrivation that public transportation or walking.
Natural rights, individual liberty, and property rights. All tie together and are more or less the same thing. Nobody was harmed or killed from a video game, nobody's property was damaged or stolen. There is no crime, since there is nobody who was harmed to claim a grievance. Sorry, third parties have no legitimate case against anyone unless they were harmed by the loss of someone killed (spouse, employer, etc.). If the Red Cross pursues this, I will stop donating blood to them.
"an electronic curtain of surveillance and censorship around its people."... Kind of like what the government is doing here in the States? The Patriot Act just kicked it into overdrive. Bill of Rights? Think you have those natural rights? Your government has taken them away and will do terrible things to you if you exercise those rights.
This was in the United States. You have very few rights here, especially in states like California. The vast majority of the obscenely high prison population is in jail for victimless crimes, they hurt nobody and were not arrested for violent acts or violation of property rights. I recall that statistic was nearly 90% of the prison population is incarcerated for a victimless crime.
On accidents, people are arrested and/or prosecuted for accidents all the time. Intent does not matter, only the state collection revenue (theft) or putting people in prison to appear "tough on crime" (of the victimless variety). Welcome to Amerika, where you have fewer rights every day. Regardless, none of that will happen to the Mythbusters crew because they are rich celebrities and as such are givern preferential treatment to be above the oppressive and unjust law that applies to the rest of us. the only legitimate cases here are those of the individuals harmed, the owners of the house, car, and anything or anyone else who was harmed. The State has no right to prosecute or file suit against people as the State cannot be a victim, and without a victim there is no crime or lawsuit.
Yes, their advertisement might be accurate if people still used CRTs or low end LCDs without DVI ports. It used to be the DAC was a critical part of the card. In the past few years DAC quality has gone to shit. Years ago I bought a GeForce 7900 to upgrade my old system with the best AGP card available. I still had a CRT at the time and the quality in 2d was terrible at higher resolutions. I swapped the card out twice with the same result. Bottom line was the DAC was shit and there were very few video card manufacturers still making cards with a good DAC, since most people had switched to using DVI capable monitors and DAC quality wasn't critical anymore. I ended up returning the card and eventually got a LCD then a better card.
Aside from that, Dell's advertising is BS because I don't think they even sell monitors or cards that don't have DVI ports anymore.
I'm not sure I follow this line of reasoning, as, making murder legal would also reduce the crime rate, and over time, the quantity of violence, as there would be a much smaller population as a result.
Murder is a violation of someone else's rights. using drugs, making drugs, or selling drugs is not. There can be no crime unless there is a victim who's rights (liberty or property) have been violated against their will and has a grievance. Someone shooting up with meth is no more a crime than someone having a shot of whiskey.
Or they have no means to come up with that extra money and drink unpurified water, perhaps just filtered through a shirt and boiled. perhaps they die from disease, or don't have medical insurance and live a life of poverty enslaved to debt collectors for expensive hospitol bills. Government has no place restricting these substances. Prohibition does not work and only serves to create violent criminal organizations and hurt innocent bystanders.
Frame/subframe and body are steel. Typically only some body panels are plastic (bumper covers, lower body panels, fender flares, etc. that may be subject to light impact or rust). One of hte many reasons I won't buy a new car. I prefer my vehicles to be steel with no plastic exterior panels or ridiculously thin gauge sheet metal.
My feeling is that the batteries must be eventually redesigned with safety in mind, just like we don't drive Ford Pintos anymore.
I know several people who drive Ford Pintos. They're simple fuel efficient cars. There are no more safety issues than any other car with the fuel tank behind the rear axle... Which is to say just about every rear wheel drive vehicle from the '30s through today. It's the most convenient and logical place to put the gas tank, anywhere else there is not much room, not much ground clearance, and would require goofy complex shapes that would result in filling/vent issues and have a more expensive and more difficult to replace tank.
This reminds me of when the police were threatening Ford over Crown Vics catching fire when stopped on the side of a highway and rear ended at 65-75 MPH. Firstly, if they were harassing people and violation their Fourth Amendment rights on fishing expeditions on the side of the highway the fires never would have happened. Aside from that, Ford wouldn't sell Crown Vics to the departments threatening them. This is the time when you started to see a lot of departments going with the newer FWD Chevy Impalas, which most cops didn't like as they didn't perform as well as a proper V8 rear wheel drive vehicle with a full frame. I thought it was a good way of dealing with the nonexistant "problem". Smash any vehicle hard enough in the area of the fuel tank and you'll get a leak. Where there is leaking fuel and hot exhaust, and of course governemnt mandated catalytic converters (which get extremely hot), there is a chance of fire and now and again it will happen. The offending police departments eventually conceded this fact.
Then you have no costs for enforcement, boarder crime is eliminated, inner city gangs have the rug pulled out from under them, and on top of all those savings government will collect a large amount of tax on it frmo a modest tax on each sale that keeps the price well under current inflated "street price". Heck, you even create more jobs here in those who are regulating, ensuring quality, dispensing, etc. This is an all around win situation for everyone involved, except maybe violent criminal gangs who now have no means of income and corrections officers who may find themselves out of work. Less gangs and less police (jail) are good things, so far as I'm concerned.
I had considered VMWare for our virtualization needs but the licensing was a nightmare. Complex and very expensive. It seemed like the price was alright up front but then figure in teh costs for everything else you need to manage it. This is a big part of what pushed us to Hyper-V. Licensing is simple and affordable. I can't really complain much about Hyper-V, it suits our needs for a reasonable cost and I've had no major issues with it. I don't see the benefit to switching to VMWare, for us. We are smaller than most companies that use ESX though, so that may be worth considering. I do not have any extensive experience with ESX though do have some experience with VMWare on top of Windows.
Sorry if I didn't accurately describe everything. This was just my perspective from staying in Hawaii for about two weeks and working my way across Maui, the Big Island, and Oahu. I saw a bit of everything from the cities/tourist traps to the countryside, drove the Hanna Highway, and saw a fair amount of "backwoods" type areas. It was several years ago so sorry if things have changed or I don't recall 100%, just mentioning the things that jumped out at me while I was there or that I have read.
I'm sure they did not include the whole insland or anything outside of the "city" area of Honolulu and tourist trap area. When I made my way around the rest of the island much of it was very rural, spread out countryside. One thing I found interesting, not just on Oahu but also the Big Island and Maui in particular was that there are abandoned cars everywhere. It appeared to me, an outside only on the islands for a bit shy of two weeks, that whenever people used up or wore out a car they just ditched it on the side of a road farther from the built up areas. This struck me as odd, as I would imagine, being islands, scrap metal recyclers would be present and these abandoned cars would have more value than on the mainland where you can get $200-$400 typically for a whole or gutted vehicle depending on weight and how much desirables (metal) you left vs undesirables (interior, gas tank, oil, etc.) you left in it.
Everything is expensive as it's either shipped in or flown in. It's a very liberal state and as such, taxes are quite high so that doesn't help either. Hawaii was gorgeous and incredible to visit, but I certainly wouldn't want to live there.
As an aside, Honolulu is a beautiful city on the surface, at least for the first block or two in from the ocean. Though the city is full of drug dealers/users, hookers and bums/homeless, all of which are conspicuously plentiful even in the beachfront/resort area right on the water. This did not detract from enjoying my vacation for the few days I was staying in Honolulu but the particularly aggressive hookers were annoying when out at night. Strangely the bums were not aggressive or rude as they are in every New England or east coast city I've been in. On a side note, if I ever failed completely at life and became a homeless bum, I would find my way to Honolulu. Bums seem to live alright lives in an amazingly beautiful and temperate area. At sunset they swarm the beaches and put up hammocks and cots to sleep in the open salty air.
Interesting and valid points. Perhaps against Good products more than IT management of devices though. I am a sysadmin for a government contractor where security is obviously important and a breach can potentially end the business and cause problems for the government and military. I'm sure many of the places that have issues with unmanaged or poorly managed devices fall into similar categories of government/military, healthcare, financial, law firms, etc. and need their data secure or face some hefty repercussions.
Now, if they'd only get rid of that asinine ban on open carry, and reform our ridiculous welfare system...
Couldn't agree more. Want to move down there eventually but I don't care for the ban on OC, nor the ludicrous welfare systems. Much better than liberal states though.
They are, but unfortunately the lowest speed limits are still faster than the bottom 33% of drivers can handle safely.
Irrelevant, in msot places in the States speed limits are an upper limit, unless a lower limit is exlicity specified. The palces where the limits are ALWAYS 10-30 MPH below a safe upper bound in good conditions (daylight, dry, etc.) are multiple lanes allowing different speeds of traffic to flow smoothly. Police need to stop enforcing speed limits (contrary to the propagandists, speed does not kill), and start enforcing lane discipline with a heavy hand. This would allow smooth and efficient flow of traffic on existing roads with higher limits, less accidents, and fewer injuries and fatalities while still allowing higher speeds. Of course enforcing improper lane discipline, parking in the passing lanes, or weaving would require cops to actually work for a living instead of chowwing down on donuts on the side of the road until the blinky display reads an arbitrarily decided number.
That's the idea, these loans would not be profitable to lend to just anyone. There would be more thought on the lender's behalf on total amount, degree sought, job/income, and scholastic history. Total lending amounts would drop and banks would nto quality anyone getting a degree in "modern art" or some other (generally) unprofitable program. Schools would be forced to bring costs in line with what people can afford, which would be around waht they charged a decade or less ago.
As it stands now schools know how much students make, how much in government loans they can get, and how much in private loans they can get. This amount is what they charge and is highly inflated. They adjust this amount by $10k or more from student to student based on what they can afford, or what the school thinks they can squeeze them for. If government got out of the student loans business (which they should, they are not a bank to do willy nilly with the money extorted from me in taxes each year), and stopped backing private student loans, college would be affordable again and this whole student loan debt problem would come to an end with the current generation of graduates.
If you are dumb, go to a state school while working: ~15k in debt
You'd have to be really dumb to not be able to afford to pay cash for a state school while working. State school while working should mean no debt... Costs around $15k-$20k around my neck of the woods. Even working a crap job if you suck it up and live with your parents a few more years until done school it's easy to go without any debt.
Absolutely. I would be psyched to burn only 3-4 GPH... After riding for "free" for the first hour on just electric from being plugged in at home. These boats have 4000 lbs of ballast and throw a huge wake. The fact that it can run for an hour with that much extra weight means the technology is getting there. The gas version of this boat has a 8.1L engine that runs a low pitch prop and turns fairly high RPM to run 21-23 MPH. I've heard of the hybrid using the 8.1L to turn a generator for the electric drive system, a version with a smaller gas engine to generate electricity, and also of the European version having a smaller diesel engine turning the generator.
At the end of the day if it means burning 15-20 gallons for a day on the water vs 30-40, that can add up quick for people who do 150-200+ hours/season. Particularly for wakeboard schools and such that use the boats for their business and may go through a tank or two of gas every single day. If these are reliable and cost effective to maintain they may well pay for themselves for those high use guys which would proove the concept as practical. If that's the case, the big 3 (Mastercraft, Correct Craft, Malibu) may jump on the bandwagon and make their own hybrids. Less fuel use benefits us all from less demand (lower prices), less pollution, and in 10-15 years maybe these will start showing up on the used market and us "average Joe"s" can save on fuel costs.
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That's waht the market will bear. I think it's retarded they make so much, but Americans are more concerned with season tickets in good seats than important issues. Not that football is bad (I have no interest in it), but there's no reason to ignore everything else going on around you in politics, sciencem etc. just because you enjoy a particular sport.
Extreme range is why I prefer to drive my old 1 ton 4x4 on long drives. It will take me ~800 miles with the 57 gallons it holds. Even my old '68 full size with a big block will get me ~400 miles on a tank. Back when I had it, my '63 Falcon would get just shy of 500 miles on the highway. Means fewer stops and less aggrivation. Newer vehicles don't offer that. Fuel economy isn't much better, but for the little they do improve MPG they decrease fuel tank size, which negates the benefit of a slight MPG increase.
Give me a compact car (Falcon sized, not modern uncomfortable death trap sized) that gets 40-50 MPG and has a 16-25 gallon tank and I'll be thrilled. Oh wait, I can get that with a early '60s Ford Falcon, which gets 32-33 MPG from the factory, but adding an overdrive transmission and doing a proper engine build for economy using some modern techniques and parts.. And still have a nice looking vehicle that's simple and cheap to own and operate.
I see nothing in the new economy car market that competes with that, especially from electric vehicles. Maybe their time will come, but I don't see EV as anything practical except in a major matro area, where (I find) driving is more expensive and more aggrivation that public transportation or walking.
Natural rights, individual liberty, and property rights. All tie together and are more or less the same thing. Nobody was harmed or killed from a video game, nobody's property was damaged or stolen. There is no crime, since there is nobody who was harmed to claim a grievance. Sorry, third parties have no legitimate case against anyone unless they were harmed by the loss of someone killed (spouse, employer, etc.). If the Red Cross pursues this, I will stop donating blood to them.
"an electronic curtain of surveillance and censorship around its people." ... Kind of like what the government is doing here in the States? The Patriot Act just kicked it into overdrive. Bill of Rights? Think you have those natural rights? Your government has taken them away and will do terrible things to you if you exercise those rights.
This was in the United States. You have very few rights here, especially in states like California. The vast majority of the obscenely high prison population is in jail for victimless crimes, they hurt nobody and were not arrested for violent acts or violation of property rights. I recall that statistic was nearly 90% of the prison population is incarcerated for a victimless crime.
On accidents, people are arrested and/or prosecuted for accidents all the time. Intent does not matter, only the state collection revenue (theft) or putting people in prison to appear "tough on crime" (of the victimless variety). Welcome to Amerika, where you have fewer rights every day. Regardless, none of that will happen to the Mythbusters crew because they are rich celebrities and as such are givern preferential treatment to be above the oppressive and unjust law that applies to the rest of us. the only legitimate cases here are those of the individuals harmed, the owners of the house, car, and anything or anyone else who was harmed. The State has no right to prosecute or file suit against people as the State cannot be a victim, and without a victim there is no crime or lawsuit.
So the masses continue a race to the bottom while hte few who are already rich (lawyers) get richer.
Yes, their advertisement might be accurate if people still used CRTs or low end LCDs without DVI ports. It used to be the DAC was a critical part of the card. In the past few years DAC quality has gone to shit. Years ago I bought a GeForce 7900 to upgrade my old system with the best AGP card available. I still had a CRT at the time and the quality in 2d was terrible at higher resolutions. I swapped the card out twice with the same result. Bottom line was the DAC was shit and there were very few video card manufacturers still making cards with a good DAC, since most people had switched to using DVI capable monitors and DAC quality wasn't critical anymore. I ended up returning the card and eventually got a LCD then a better card.
Aside from that, Dell's advertising is BS because I don't think they even sell monitors or cards that don't have DVI ports anymore.
I'm not sure I follow this line of reasoning, as, making murder legal would also reduce the crime rate, and over time, the quantity of violence, as there would be a much smaller population as a result.
Murder is a violation of someone else's rights. using drugs, making drugs, or selling drugs is not. There can be no crime unless there is a victim who's rights (liberty or property) have been violated against their will and has a grievance. Someone shooting up with meth is no more a crime than someone having a shot of whiskey.
Ron Paul has my vote. He's the only candidate who will end this nonsense, this trampling of our rights, and this "collateral damage".
Or they have no means to come up with that extra money and drink unpurified water, perhaps just filtered through a shirt and boiled. perhaps they die from disease, or don't have medical insurance and live a life of poverty enslaved to debt collectors for expensive hospitol bills. Government has no place restricting these substances. Prohibition does not work and only serves to create violent criminal organizations and hurt innocent bystanders.
Frame/subframe and body are steel. Typically only some body panels are plastic (bumper covers, lower body panels, fender flares, etc. that may be subject to light impact or rust). One of hte many reasons I won't buy a new car. I prefer my vehicles to be steel with no plastic exterior panels or ridiculously thin gauge sheet metal.
My feeling is that the batteries must be eventually redesigned with safety in mind, just like we don't drive Ford Pintos anymore.
I know several people who drive Ford Pintos. They're simple fuel efficient cars. There are no more safety issues than any other car with the fuel tank behind the rear axle... Which is to say just about every rear wheel drive vehicle from the '30s through today. It's the most convenient and logical place to put the gas tank, anywhere else there is not much room, not much ground clearance, and would require goofy complex shapes that would result in filling/vent issues and have a more expensive and more difficult to replace tank.
This reminds me of when the police were threatening Ford over Crown Vics catching fire when stopped on the side of a highway and rear ended at 65-75 MPH. Firstly, if they were harassing people and violation their Fourth Amendment rights on fishing expeditions on the side of the highway the fires never would have happened. Aside from that, Ford wouldn't sell Crown Vics to the departments threatening them. This is the time when you started to see a lot of departments going with the newer FWD Chevy Impalas, which most cops didn't like as they didn't perform as well as a proper V8 rear wheel drive vehicle with a full frame. I thought it was a good way of dealing with the nonexistant "problem". Smash any vehicle hard enough in the area of the fuel tank and you'll get a leak. Where there is leaking fuel and hot exhaust, and of course governemnt mandated catalytic converters (which get extremely hot), there is a chance of fire and now and again it will happen. The offending police departments eventually conceded this fact.
And for me, spending time sleeping with people is actually productive.
Drugs: legalize, regulate, tax.
Then you have no costs for enforcement, boarder crime is eliminated, inner city gangs have the rug pulled out from under them, and on top of all those savings government will collect a large amount of tax on it frmo a modest tax on each sale that keeps the price well under current inflated "street price". Heck, you even create more jobs here in those who are regulating, ensuring quality, dispensing, etc. This is an all around win situation for everyone involved, except maybe violent criminal gangs who now have no means of income and corrections officers who may find themselves out of work. Less gangs and less police (jail) are good things, so far as I'm concerned.
I think the RIAA has found their new saint.
I had considered VMWare for our virtualization needs but the licensing was a nightmare. Complex and very expensive. It seemed like the price was alright up front but then figure in teh costs for everything else you need to manage it. This is a big part of what pushed us to Hyper-V. Licensing is simple and affordable. I can't really complain much about Hyper-V, it suits our needs for a reasonable cost and I've had no major issues with it. I don't see the benefit to switching to VMWare, for us. We are smaller than most companies that use ESX though, so that may be worth considering. I do not have any extensive experience with ESX though do have some experience with VMWare on top of Windows.
Sorry if I didn't accurately describe everything. This was just my perspective from staying in Hawaii for about two weeks and working my way across Maui, the Big Island, and Oahu. I saw a bit of everything from the cities/tourist traps to the countryside, drove the Hanna Highway, and saw a fair amount of "backwoods" type areas. It was several years ago so sorry if things have changed or I don't recall 100%, just mentioning the things that jumped out at me while I was there or that I have read.
I'm sure they did not include the whole insland or anything outside of the "city" area of Honolulu and tourist trap area. When I made my way around the rest of the island much of it was very rural, spread out countryside. One thing I found interesting, not just on Oahu but also the Big Island and Maui in particular was that there are abandoned cars everywhere. It appeared to me, an outside only on the islands for a bit shy of two weeks, that whenever people used up or wore out a car they just ditched it on the side of a road farther from the built up areas. This struck me as odd, as I would imagine, being islands, scrap metal recyclers would be present and these abandoned cars would have more value than on the mainland where you can get $200-$400 typically for a whole or gutted vehicle depending on weight and how much desirables (metal) you left vs undesirables (interior, gas tank, oil, etc.) you left in it.
Everything is expensive as it's either shipped in or flown in. It's a very liberal state and as such, taxes are quite high so that doesn't help either. Hawaii was gorgeous and incredible to visit, but I certainly wouldn't want to live there.
As an aside, Honolulu is a beautiful city on the surface, at least for the first block or two in from the ocean. Though the city is full of drug dealers/users, hookers and bums/homeless, all of which are conspicuously plentiful even in the beachfront/resort area right on the water. This did not detract from enjoying my vacation for the few days I was staying in Honolulu but the particularly aggressive hookers were annoying when out at night. Strangely the bums were not aggressive or rude as they are in every New England or east coast city I've been in. On a side note, if I ever failed completely at life and became a homeless bum, I would find my way to Honolulu. Bums seem to live alright lives in an amazingly beautiful and temperate area. At sunset they swarm the beaches and put up hammocks and cots to sleep in the open salty air.
Interesting and valid points. Perhaps against Good products more than IT management of devices though. I am a sysadmin for a government contractor where security is obviously important and a breach can potentially end the business and cause problems for the government and military. I'm sure many of the places that have issues with unmanaged or poorly managed devices fall into similar categories of government/military, healthcare, financial, law firms, etc. and need their data secure or face some hefty repercussions.
Now, if they'd only get rid of that asinine ban on open carry, and reform our ridiculous welfare system...
Couldn't agree more. Want to move down there eventually but I don't care for the ban on OC, nor the ludicrous welfare systems. Much better than liberal states though.
They are, but unfortunately the lowest speed limits are still faster than the bottom 33% of drivers can handle safely.
Irrelevant, in msot places in the States speed limits are an upper limit, unless a lower limit is exlicity specified. The palces where the limits are ALWAYS 10-30 MPH below a safe upper bound in good conditions (daylight, dry, etc.) are multiple lanes allowing different speeds of traffic to flow smoothly. Police need to stop enforcing speed limits (contrary to the propagandists, speed does not kill), and start enforcing lane discipline with a heavy hand. This would allow smooth and efficient flow of traffic on existing roads with higher limits, less accidents, and fewer injuries and fatalities while still allowing higher speeds. Of course enforcing improper lane discipline, parking in the passing lanes, or weaving would require cops to actually work for a living instead of chowwing down on donuts on the side of the road until the blinky display reads an arbitrarily decided number.
That's the idea, these loans would not be profitable to lend to just anyone. There would be more thought on the lender's behalf on total amount, degree sought, job/income, and scholastic history. Total lending amounts would drop and banks would nto quality anyone getting a degree in "modern art" or some other (generally) unprofitable program. Schools would be forced to bring costs in line with what people can afford, which would be around waht they charged a decade or less ago.
As it stands now schools know how much students make, how much in government loans they can get, and how much in private loans they can get. This amount is what they charge and is highly inflated. They adjust this amount by $10k or more from student to student based on what they can afford, or what the school thinks they can squeeze them for. If government got out of the student loans business (which they should, they are not a bank to do willy nilly with the money extorted from me in taxes each year), and stopped backing private student loans, college would be affordable again and this whole student loan debt problem would come to an end with the current generation of graduates.
If you are dumb, go to a state school while working: ~15k in debt
You'd have to be really dumb to not be able to afford to pay cash for a state school while working. State school while working should mean no debt... Costs around $15k-$20k around my neck of the woods. Even working a crap job if you suck it up and live with your parents a few more years until done school it's easy to go without any debt.
Absolutely. I would be psyched to burn only 3-4 GPH... After riding for "free" for the first hour on just electric from being plugged in at home. These boats have 4000 lbs of ballast and throw a huge wake. The fact that it can run for an hour with that much extra weight means the technology is getting there. The gas version of this boat has a 8.1L engine that runs a low pitch prop and turns fairly high RPM to run 21-23 MPH. I've heard of the hybrid using the 8.1L to turn a generator for the electric drive system, a version with a smaller gas engine to generate electricity, and also of the European version having a smaller diesel engine turning the generator.
At the end of the day if it means burning 15-20 gallons for a day on the water vs 30-40, that can add up quick for people who do 150-200+ hours/season. Particularly for wakeboard schools and such that use the boats for their business and may go through a tank or two of gas every single day. If these are reliable and cost effective to maintain they may well pay for themselves for those high use guys which would proove the concept as practical. If that's the case, the big 3 (Mastercraft, Correct Craft, Malibu) may jump on the bandwagon and make their own hybrids. Less fuel use benefits us all from less demand (lower prices), less pollution, and in 10-15 years maybe these will start showing up on the used market and us "average Joe"s" can save on fuel costs.