Let's not get hyperbolic. As many problems as I have with the NYT, a couple of sex scandals involving politicians doesn't measure up to what the NYT does every day. Now, take a look at what the Enquirer reports on every day.
Because most of the outrage about foreign spying is from the uninformed. "OMG, we spy on our friends????" Last week I heard Peter King, Congressman from NY, relay a story about how a politician in France (?) was opposed to something we were doing to aid the Afghans against the Soviets. It turned out he was vested in some business venture that would have profited from a Soviet pipeline through Afghanistan (which we learned by spying on our "friends").
We're still talking about 40 years of technology and engineering process evolution. I think it's a great achievement, but even if they nail it on the first try, it's not remotely close to the challenge to the first probes. Add to that knowledge of the rigors of the trip and the Martian environment as well as several different landing models employed by NASA.
Pretty sure he'll never get offed. If it happened, the heat would be on the US gov't even if it was someone else who did it. Now, if he pisses of Israel, the Mossad is going to make him a half-life ham sandwich.
It won't. It's a stupid idealists view of how espionage works. I'm guessing he thinks everyone is now going to hold hands, open up the books, and dance around a campfire together.
It's a pretty naive world view as well. The notion that the world would be better if all information was public. Companies and nations have to protect their interests. My problem with Snowden isn't the leaks about domestic spying, it's that he's taken on the mantle of Truth Warrior freeing all those choice bits of data that our silly little country wants to protect. Firstly, that's not his right to make the call. Secondly, the compromised foreign espionage has done a ton of damage to our country.
BTW, there was a report (not sure if it was linked here) that he was fired previously from a CIA job for attempting to access information in much the same way.
Oh my goodness. It's like one of these guys just logged in. However stupid you think communication and group dynamics are, that is HOW people best communicate in working groups. Flinging around emails that may or may not be read today doesn't work very well (we tried it). I'm not saying electronic communications don't work, but nothing replaces a group of people in a real-time meeting whether in-person or over the phone. And, the odds that people are diligently trying to get ahead in their work is rubbish. I just finished my degree and most people on laptops (because college lectures are just another irrelevant business meeting, right?) were surfing the web or watching YouTube videos. You can bet that these people were the ones I see posting questions on answer forums; citing their professor's inferior teaching skills.
Regarding meeting dozers, what you're saying is "hey, some people are shirking their responsibilities, so let's make it company policy!" Companies don't succeed by dropping the bar to the lowest standard of their employees.
I'm amazed that someone would post this But, then at my graduation there were groups of graduates who didn't have the patience to sit through a 25-30 commencement address without talking loudly. At their own graduation! I suppose this is where our country is today.
I'm equally frightened that this post has been modded up (+5 insightful).
We're getting all of these conveniences and our society doesn't have the time to instruct people (kids especially) what is and isn't appropriate behavior. It's not just this. It's people taking snapshots of party goers doing something embarrassing, sexting, phone calls in theaters, etc. I was just at the coffee shop and a woman had one of those bluetooth headsets talking away while at the counter. Now, nothing is more annoying than standing next to someone when you can't tell if they're talking to you, the cashier, herself, or some hidden phone under their hair or on the opposite side of their head.
However, society hasn't had the time to say "hey this pisses other people off so just because it makes irrelevant 5 minutes conversations convenient, wait until you're in private to use this device."
OK, this guy plotted and planned in excrutiating detail for 18 months, works in the automobile industry, yet seems utterly fearless about the legal ramifications about admitting average speeds in excess of all posted limits in the country? The article I saw had a damning amount detail, including what sound like many admissions that he knows what he's doing is illegal (e.g. the comment about the vented trunk fumes while stopped by a cop).
I don't know where YOU live, but I'm in Kansas and you can do 100+ easily out here, even on the state highways because roads are so straight. I ride my motorcycle out in the country and the only real limitation is the mental fatigue of high speeds. I can only maintain them for a while before slowing down to make the ride more relaxing.
Ain't this the truth. Lots of books get hyped. That 50 shades of grey book is all over the news and every single person I've heard give an opinion of it said it was poorly written.
Demagogue much? How do you know what I give a shit about? And indiscriminately dumping documents to the media and asking them to scrub them before release is the same thing as indiscriminately dumping documents on the media. The kinds of revelations we got from Mannings leaks about communications between low level diplomats including some personal shots that have no bearing on national policies illustrate what I'm talking about
He's no longer in possession of them. He hasn't had his documents since he left the country. He also wouldn't have the means to protect them. The ONE smart thing he did was not taking the documents to China or Russia.
I was a huge supporter of the guy when he was telling people in his country about the NSA violating it's mission statement and turning its guns on the American people. Now, when he went down the Bradley Manning path and just started dumping anything he had in his hands related to our overseas communications and surveillance (that is what the NSA is SUPPOSED to be doing), then THAT became a serious problem.
Now, I accept that people overseas are thrilled with him because it's in their interests. It is NOT in the interests of Americans to have someone indiscriminately dumping intelligence secrets to the press. Let the British, French, and German posters cheer Snowden on. Americans definitely should NOT be.
And, for those of you bemoaning the evils of surveiling allies, this was, is, and shall always be a part of foreign affairs and EVERY nation does it. EVERY nation. As a Senator pointed out last night, we've historically found through surveillance foreign politicians pushing inexplicable, self-defeating agendas who were on the take from some mega corporation. Lots of naive people think that just because you shake hands with the prime minister of nation X, that means you can turn your back on him.
That being said, the NSA leaks are our fault for expanding surveillance to dragnetting proportions so large that we relied on private contractors hiring high school dropout hackers.
Lots of people "study" engineering in college, then drop out after 2-3 semesters. From the article it looks like he made it 4-5? I recall some other musician being hired years back (Will I. Am?) as a PR stunt. Investing in tech companies doesn't imply tech knowledge either.
For some reason I got the bug to try to wire up LED pumpkins and build a flashing LED circuit. I've not done much with electronics, so I got the alternating flashing antennae done properly after some work. But, I also wanted the mouth to have Knight Rider-style chasing LEDs. I found a circuit diagram, but for some reason the lights run for 10-15 seconds then stop with one light on. Go figure:/
...and started using Outlook for mail again. Firstly, I don't like all of these mail client upgrades (including Yahoo's). Second, I just hated the idea of being logged in to Google while browsing on the web. Tie that in with Google's viral attempts to trick me into using Google+ and trying to assign my real name to my YouTube posts.
I bet if you scale down the image size it would be more acceptable.
Most nostalgic old guy crapping on new stuff in a Slashdot post.
Let's not get hyperbolic. As many problems as I have with the NYT, a couple of sex scandals involving politicians doesn't measure up to what the NYT does every day. Now, take a look at what the Enquirer reports on every day.
Because most of the outrage about foreign spying is from the uninformed. "OMG, we spy on our friends????" Last week I heard Peter King, Congressman from NY, relay a story about how a politician in France (?) was opposed to something we were doing to aid the Afghans against the Soviets. It turned out he was vested in some business venture that would have profited from a Soviet pipeline through Afghanistan (which we learned by spying on our "friends").
We're still talking about 40 years of technology and engineering process evolution. I think it's a great achievement, but even if they nail it on the first try, it's not remotely close to the challenge to the first probes. Add to that knowledge of the rigors of the trip and the Martian environment as well as several different landing models employed by NASA.
Pretty sure he'll never get offed. If it happened, the heat would be on the US gov't even if it was someone else who did it. Now, if he pisses of Israel, the Mossad is going to make him a half-life ham sandwich.
It won't. It's a stupid idealists view of how espionage works. I'm guessing he thinks everyone is now going to hold hands, open up the books, and dance around a campfire together.
It's a pretty naive world view as well. The notion that the world would be better if all information was public. Companies and nations have to protect their interests. My problem with Snowden isn't the leaks about domestic spying, it's that he's taken on the mantle of Truth Warrior freeing all those choice bits of data that our silly little country wants to protect. Firstly, that's not his right to make the call. Secondly, the compromised foreign espionage has done a ton of damage to our country.
BTW, there was a report (not sure if it was linked here) that he was fired previously from a CIA job for attempting to access information in much the same way.
Nonsense, this is all over mainstream media. I saw it being discussed on 3 TV news networks this morning.
Well, Hitler won Man of the Year so anything's possible.
Oh my goodness. It's like one of these guys just logged in. However stupid you think communication and group dynamics are, that is HOW people best communicate in working groups. Flinging around emails that may or may not be read today doesn't work very well (we tried it). I'm not saying electronic communications don't work, but nothing replaces a group of people in a real-time meeting whether in-person or over the phone. And, the odds that people are diligently trying to get ahead in their work is rubbish. I just finished my degree and most people on laptops (because college lectures are just another irrelevant business meeting, right?) were surfing the web or watching YouTube videos. You can bet that these people were the ones I see posting questions on answer forums; citing their professor's inferior teaching skills.
Regarding meeting dozers, what you're saying is "hey, some people are shirking their responsibilities, so let's make it company policy!" Companies don't succeed by dropping the bar to the lowest standard of their employees.
I'm amazed that someone would post this But, then at my graduation there were groups of graduates who didn't have the patience to sit through a 25-30 commencement address without talking loudly. At their own graduation! I suppose this is where our country is today.
I'm equally frightened that this post has been modded up (+5 insightful).
We're getting all of these conveniences and our society doesn't have the time to instruct people (kids especially) what is and isn't appropriate behavior. It's not just this. It's people taking snapshots of party goers doing something embarrassing, sexting, phone calls in theaters, etc. I was just at the coffee shop and a woman had one of those bluetooth headsets talking away while at the counter. Now, nothing is more annoying than standing next to someone when you can't tell if they're talking to you, the cashier, herself, or some hidden phone under their hair or on the opposite side of their head.
However, society hasn't had the time to say "hey this pisses other people off so just because it makes irrelevant 5 minutes conversations convenient, wait until you're in private to use this device."
OK, this guy plotted and planned in excrutiating detail for 18 months, works in the automobile industry, yet seems utterly fearless about the legal ramifications about admitting average speeds in excess of all posted limits in the country? The article I saw had a damning amount detail, including what sound like many admissions that he knows what he's doing is illegal (e.g. the comment about the vented trunk fumes while stopped by a cop).
I don't know where YOU live, but I'm in Kansas and you can do 100+ easily out here, even on the state highways because roads are so straight. I ride my motorcycle out in the country and the only real limitation is the mental fatigue of high speeds. I can only maintain them for a while before slowing down to make the ride more relaxing.
That family is starting to look like a bad Satan parody. What next, secretly funding child slavery rings for hamster wheel electrical generators?
Ain't this the truth. Lots of books get hyped. That 50 shades of grey book is all over the news and every single person I've heard give an opinion of it said it was poorly written.
Just get on at night. Besides the problems yesterday, I haven't had a problem getting through in the evening.
No way you're dropping analysts in to fix a problem in a couple weeks that's probably going to be done in a month anyway.
Demagogue much? How do you know what I give a shit about? And indiscriminately dumping documents to the media and asking them to scrub them before release is the same thing as indiscriminately dumping documents on the media. The kinds of revelations we got from Mannings leaks about communications between low level diplomats including some personal shots that have no bearing on national policies illustrate what I'm talking about
He's no longer in possession of them. He hasn't had his documents since he left the country. He also wouldn't have the means to protect them. The ONE smart thing he did was not taking the documents to China or Russia.
I was a huge supporter of the guy when he was telling people in his country about the NSA violating it's mission statement and turning its guns on the American people. Now, when he went down the Bradley Manning path and just started dumping anything he had in his hands related to our overseas communications and surveillance (that is what the NSA is SUPPOSED to be doing), then THAT became a serious problem.
Now, I accept that people overseas are thrilled with him because it's in their interests. It is NOT in the interests of Americans to have someone indiscriminately dumping intelligence secrets to the press. Let the British, French, and German posters cheer Snowden on. Americans definitely should NOT be.
And, for those of you bemoaning the evils of surveiling allies, this was, is, and shall always be a part of foreign affairs and EVERY nation does it. EVERY nation. As a Senator pointed out last night, we've historically found through surveillance foreign politicians pushing inexplicable, self-defeating agendas who were on the take from some mega corporation. Lots of naive people think that just because you shake hands with the prime minister of nation X, that means you can turn your back on him.
That being said, the NSA leaks are our fault for expanding surveillance to dragnetting proportions so large that we relied on private contractors hiring high school dropout hackers.
Thx for the feedback
Lots of people "study" engineering in college, then drop out after 2-3 semesters. From the article it looks like he made it 4-5? I recall some other musician being hired years back (Will I. Am?) as a PR stunt. Investing in tech companies doesn't imply tech knowledge either.
For some reason I got the bug to try to wire up LED pumpkins and build a flashing LED circuit. I've not done much with electronics, so I got the alternating flashing antennae done properly after some work. But, I also wanted the mouth to have Knight Rider-style chasing LEDs. I found a circuit diagram, but for some reason the lights run for 10-15 seconds then stop with one light on. Go figure :/
Here's the circuit diagram I'm trying to copy.
...and started using Outlook for mail again. Firstly, I don't like all of these mail client upgrades (including Yahoo's). Second, I just hated the idea of being logged in to Google while browsing on the web. Tie that in with Google's viral attempts to trick me into using Google+ and trying to assign my real name to my YouTube posts.