You're telling me that they magically figured out a way to do this without copying the DVD, and they were merely reselling an altered disc? Somehow, I doubt that. If that were the case, it wouldn't have ended up in court in the first place.
An individual's right to privacy trumps even that. The original creator doesn't even have the right to know how you are using his work as long as you aren't distributing it, so the creator has no such veto.
What I do in the privacy of my own home to a creative work is none of the copyright holder's business, whether it's their will that I don't do it or not.
Yeah, I mean, if the law doesn't call for a re-vote, those damned bastard justices in the Supreme Court won't forge off on their own and write law. The nerve of some people.
Collect the used ribbons and store those under a separate oversight, e.g. Fed-Ex those to ACLU
Right... Why don't you FedEx them to me. I'll do you the courtesy of lying to you and saying I don't have an agenda, and don't care about the outcome. That's more than you'll get from the ACLU, who probably openly endorsed a candidate.
Have you ever tried setting your upload rate to zero and looked at what it does to your download rate?
That's because ACKs are counted as upload, not because fairness is built into the protocol. Other peers can't even tell how much you're uploading, because nothing is stopping you from lying about it.
The protocol is very simple and documented online. You will notice that it includes information to allow clients to implement, and I quote, "tit-for-tat-ish" algorithims, but those are not a part of the protocol, and since the protocol is open there is nothing stoping clients from gaming the system. Yes, your client can choose to decide if it should throttle uploads to a particular peer that it thinks is abusing the system, but your client would be guessing, and that guess would be based largely on information provided by the downloader.
Seed-heavy torrents (like, say, most major Linux ISOs a couple of weeks after a release), end up choosing a very low upload rate, because they get the data fast anyway. More "normal" torrents, with a mix of seeds and leeches, download faster with an upload rate set close to the maximum upstream bandwidth of your connection.
The optimum upload rate for maximal download speed is purely a function of the chunk size. There is a reason that tracker sites employ ratio quota systems. Those are exploitable too though.
Go on thinking you're right though. It keeps the downloads fast for us leaches.
Nah. He'd get modded down as off topic, because the story would be about how Apple didn't give somebody a refund when he couldn't undelete the files that were 'deleted' from his hard drive when he threw his laptop down a flight of stairs, and about how he was filing a class action lawsuit against Apple for having a buggy product. The only comments that *wouldn't* be modded as off topic in that thread would be the ones saying how dumb single button mice are, and the ones saying how much cheaper a Dell would have been.
When you're 11 years old, it seems cool to do that crap.
I know when I was 11, the coolest thing I could think of to do with my newly purchased copy of Borland Turbo C++ was to write a hex editor that played MOD files. That, and all the letters were lowercase and the text on the splash screen blinked. It was 1337.
When you grow up, you can actually afford to buy your games and software (most of it anyway), so you have no need to be a cracker anymore. Thus the lack of hacks written by people old enough to realize that making any old app play bad music isn't cool.
The abstraction you describe could just as easily be software in flash on the card as software in RAM on a PC. Your chip design wouldn't have to change at all for this to be a reality......except that it already has been a reality. This isn't a novel idea. It's happened at least three times in the past, and it will happen again in the future. Somebody comes up with a standard driver API, people implement it, cards work everywhere... Then some smartass graphics chip maker wants a competetive edge and either intentionally breaks the API, or comes up with a feature that doesn't fit the standard, and suddenly you can't use the on board driver anymore if you want the full featureset. Then the whole standard goes out the window, there's chaos for a few years (decades) and the whole process starts over again.
The Open Graphics Project has opinions about that.
Those opinions and a dollar seventy nine will get you a coffee at starbucks. The day your solution to the driver problem works is the last day you will ever be employed as a chip designer ever again. It's also the day that pigs will fly and the day there is ice skating in hell.
While I agree that our politicians are too beholden to big business, it is essential that they look out for businesses. After all, without them, we'd be unemployed and either bartering, subsistance farming, or most likely, still be on the slave and plantation model. For all the bad people say about the world of big corporations, it is certanly a model that has dramatically improved the quality of our lives over the last eighty years; even dispite it's more egregious failings.
Like many issues, there is a lot of middle ground when you're talking about reducing poverty, but like so many issues in our society it ends up boiled down to the two extremes. There is a place in our culture, and our economy for low wage jobs, yet at the same time we can't have people supporting a family on $5.15 an hour. The response has to take the needs of business, the needs of highschool kids who want spending money, and the needs of every day hard working people into account all at once. This isn't a problem to be hit with a hammer, even if the hammer is the only thing that can be easily described on a bumper sticker.
As for clamining that all minimum wage workers are lazy, well... I don't understand those people. I can't imagine how you can consider somebody who works fourty hours for only a tiny reward to be lazy.
People move up the ladder by getting an education, taking a min wage job rather than going to college is a great way to get stuck at the bottom rung.
Most of the experts disagree. That first job is just as important as the education. You need both. Almost everybody starts at minimum wage, and most people don't get stuck on the bottom rung.
Not only that, but low minimum wages move us backward as a society
Care to back that up with more than washington rhetoric? Please, site one non-lobbyist expert.
The choice of keeping a more or less permanent underclass to perform these tasks keeps us from moving forward into a time when no one will actually need to do a job they don't want to do.
Once again, you're missing the point. The minimum wage isn't a class issue. Most of the people earning minimum wage aren't the primary providers for their family.
a wages that barely cover subsistance
Not everybody needs to earn a living wage at the current point in their life. As long as that is true (it will always be true), the only thing you will accomplish by raising it is increasing unemployment, which makes the poor even poorer.
Libertarianism is the opiate of the upper classes.
Hah!
Ever notice how it's the guilty feeling people of the middle class that push for a minimum wage hike? The parent of this thread certainly did. That's how this conversation got started.
But why couldn't something along the lines of a corporate revolution happen?
Right now, or in the forseeable future? Easy. Because the corporations enable our lifestyles. Nobody wants to give up quality of life, and the corporations are giving far more than they are taking away in that department right now.
If another depression were to happen, do you think people could start to realise that there was something wrong with the ways the corporations were acting?
That's a *huge* if. We're not even close to that. Even the worst of the doom and gloom talking heads aren't predicting that, and if it were to come it would likely be due to non-corporate events. Also, for the most part there isn't anything wrong with the way most corporations act. It's just that the bad ones give the rest a bad name.
Most of those things he mentioned people think are great, because those things mean that they either get a bargain, or that they're protecting 'the children'. The rest of them people either don't notice or wouldn't care about even if you managed to successfully get them to understand why it is that you care about them.
Maybe there will be another American revolution some day to try and put back into place a government whose altruistic ideals can be effected indefinitely.
Yeah, right. Most of that stuff in the post didn't even have anything to do with state or federal govenrment. It was mostly corporate and people giving their privacy away under their own accord.
The best part was where he described journalists as 'the people who are supposed to be looking out for him'. What a hoot. Somebody needs a lesson in capatilism, and some friendly advice not to be so trusting lest he look in the mirror and find out he's one of the people giving away bits of himself for no good reason.
How come 30 million people have to try to live on $5.15 an hour? How are their voices not heard?
Here's a hint: More than half of them aren't even old enough to vote if they wanted to (and if they were, they'd be statistically unlikely to vote anyway). The minimum wage is a heart-string issue. The Democrats tote it out to get emotional votes out of the section of their base that hasn't engaged their brain. It's the Democrats' version of school prayer.
Not everybody needs to earn a living wage. Some people are dependents to other people, or are children. It is important that low wage jobs exist, or it would be difficult to get that first job that lets you start climbing the ladder. Stop and think, and read a bit. You will find that politicians and armchair economists are the biggest supporters of a minimum wage hike. It's never the people who are supposedly harmed by the low minimum wage crying for an increase, and most of the groups that advocate for those very same people think it's dumb too.... All those people want an expansion of the EITC instead.
the relationship between workers and their environments
If you have to touch it while you're working, it's "ergonomic" by definition.
Ask for the results of their clinical study. When they can't give them to you, realize that it's cheaper to correct your bad habits than it is to buy their unproven junk. It's a technique that has the added advantage of working ant any computer you sit down at, not just the one with your overpriced peripheral.
Most computer users with a hand or wrist RSI got it doing something other than using their computer anyway. You're more likely to get an RSI through occational screwdriver use than continual keyboard and mouse use assuming you have proper posture.
Give me a break. A major feature would be the rumored playstation emulator, or signifiganty improved power management... The web browser was a major feature. This update didn't add any capabilities to the device, it only made an existing capability slightly easier to use. That is practically the definition of a minor update.
Around here, the taxes are handled by the state, and the permits are handled by the town (and the deeds and maps are handled by the county, guaranteeing three different trips and three different fees to get anything done). If you want sales taxes waived, you show your tax ID (glorified name for a piece of ink-jet printed cardstock that was rubber stamped) and they take down the number... But I'm pretty sure that building materials for resale via construction projects aren't tax exempt, so you're paying the sales tax regardless.
Heck, we still have people without cable TV here in spots
And hopefully they never will...
It's a waste of resources and one more company that has waiver to tounce all over private property to have infrastructure that is completely unnecessary. Laying cable for a uni-directional service is rediculous. That's what RF broadcasting is perfect for. Those people should get a sattelite dish; even if they have to put it at the top of a 50ft pole to get line of sight.
The unfortunate part is that a lot of people in this country really would rather be safe than free.
I don't see that. I think that it's more that people don't understand what freedom is... however:
accept that despite our best efforts bad people will do bad things from time to time
You apparently don't either...
if anything bad does happen they'll be punished for it...and apparently you've confused vengence for justice as well.
Just because you're an extremest on the other side of the issues you oppose dosen't mean you're protected from being unintentionally hypocritical. Stop and think, won't you? Perhaps actually try reading some of what some great americans have written. I recommend the Atlantic Charter (FDR & Winston Churchill), and Ben Franklin's letters. I think you will find that you, like are current government, are forgetting two of the four freedoms... The other two... At the very least, you'll find that like most great thinkers, their perspective is more nuanced than what you might learn from a single clever quotation.
At the home depot near me, those are just two extra checkouts at the other end of the store. There's no requirement that you're a contractor. They just put those there to get the average consumer to think that they're acting like a pro and prevent them from considering finding an alternate retailer. If you're buying a lot of lumber, your local lumber yard is very likely:
Much cheaper than Home Depot in quantity
Willing to deliver for free in quantity
The place where your local contractors shop 90% of the time
Anybody can use Home Depot's 'Contractor Check-Out'. I use it all the time. It's just a marketing tool.
Users who need the performance or cutting edge features are, unfortunatly, unable to happily take their dollars elsewhere. That allows them to get away with not caring about the one in 100,000 who do what you are doing.
Nah, it's not a bad thing. It's just fairly reliable and easy to base predictions off of. Personally, I like to bring it up anytime somebody is insisting that the course of technology for a particular market is *perfect* and should continue marching forward unchanged.
I hate how people write off ATI and Nvidia as Open Source scrooges since their drivers are closed. The reality is that their code isn't all home grown and they couldn't open source it even if they wanted to. The copyright and patent holders on their licensed technologies wouldn't let them.
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You're telling me that they magically figured out a way to do this without copying the DVD, and they were merely reselling an altered disc? Somehow, I doubt that. If that were the case, it wouldn't have ended up in court in the first place.
Sorry, you're wrong.
An individual's right to privacy trumps even that. The original creator doesn't even have the right to know how you are using his work as long as you aren't distributing it, so the creator has no such veto.
What I do in the privacy of my own home to a creative work is none of the copyright holder's business, whether it's their will that I don't do it or not.
Yeah, they need to hear it.
The were distributing the movies.
Your argument has exactly the opposite meaning than you intended.
I thought the goal was to be funny. Considering it was hilarious, I think it worked out perfectly.
Somebody better head over to Wikipedia and proofread the entries for 'irony' and 'satire'.
You can't trust SCOTUS to allow a revote.
Yeah, I mean, if the law doesn't call for a re-vote, those damned bastard justices in the Supreme Court won't forge off on their own and write law. The nerve of some people.
Collect the used ribbons and store those under a separate oversight, e.g. Fed-Ex those to ACLU
Right... Why don't you FedEx them to me. I'll do you the courtesy of lying to you and saying I don't have an agenda, and don't care about the outcome. That's more than you'll get from the ACLU, who probably openly endorsed a candidate.
Have you ever tried setting your upload rate to zero and looked at what it does to your download rate?
That's because ACKs are counted as upload, not because fairness is built into the protocol. Other peers can't even tell how much you're uploading, because nothing is stopping you from lying about it.
The protocol is very simple and documented online. You will notice that it includes information to allow clients to implement, and I quote, "tit-for-tat-ish" algorithims, but those are not a part of the protocol, and since the protocol is open there is nothing stoping clients from gaming the system. Yes, your client can choose to decide if it should throttle uploads to a particular peer that it thinks is abusing the system, but your client would be guessing, and that guess would be based largely on information provided by the downloader.
Seed-heavy torrents (like, say, most major Linux ISOs a couple of weeks after a release), end up choosing a very low upload rate, because they get the data fast anyway. More "normal" torrents, with a mix of seeds and leeches, download faster with an upload rate set close to the maximum upstream bandwidth of your connection.
The optimum upload rate for maximal download speed is purely a function of the chunk size. There is a reason that tracker sites employ ratio quota systems. Those are exploitable too though.
Go on thinking you're right though. It keeps the downloads fast for us leaches.
Nah. He'd get modded down as off topic, because the story would be about how Apple didn't give somebody a refund when he couldn't undelete the files that were 'deleted' from his hard drive when he threw his laptop down a flight of stairs, and about how he was filing a class action lawsuit against Apple for having a buggy product. The only comments that *wouldn't* be modded as off topic in that thread would be the ones saying how dumb single button mice are, and the ones saying how much cheaper a Dell would have been.
When you're 11 years old, it seems cool to do that crap.
I know when I was 11, the coolest thing I could think of to do with my newly purchased copy of Borland Turbo C++ was to write a hex editor that played MOD files. That, and all the letters were lowercase and the text on the splash screen blinked. It was 1337.
When you grow up, you can actually afford to buy your games and software (most of it anyway), so you have no need to be a cracker anymore. Thus the lack of hacks written by people old enough to realize that making any old app play bad music isn't cool.
...and not a software engineer.
...except that it already has been a reality. This isn't a novel idea. It's happened at least three times in the past, and it will happen again in the future. Somebody comes up with a standard driver API, people implement it, cards work everywhere... Then some smartass graphics chip maker wants a competetive edge and either intentionally breaks the API, or comes up with a feature that doesn't fit the standard, and suddenly you can't use the on board driver anymore if you want the full featureset. Then the whole standard goes out the window, there's chaos for a few years (decades) and the whole process starts over again.
The abstraction you describe could just as easily be software in flash on the card as software in RAM on a PC. Your chip design wouldn't have to change at all for this to be a reality...
The Open Graphics Project has opinions about that.
Those opinions and a dollar seventy nine will get you a coffee at starbucks. The day your solution to the driver problem works is the last day you will ever be employed as a chip designer ever again. It's also the day that pigs will fly and the day there is ice skating in hell.
While I agree that our politicians are too beholden to big business, it is essential that they look out for businesses. After all, without them, we'd be unemployed and either bartering, subsistance farming, or most likely, still be on the slave and plantation model. For all the bad people say about the world of big corporations, it is certanly a model that has dramatically improved the quality of our lives over the last eighty years; even dispite it's more egregious failings.
Like many issues, there is a lot of middle ground when you're talking about reducing poverty, but like so many issues in our society it ends up boiled down to the two extremes. There is a place in our culture, and our economy for low wage jobs, yet at the same time we can't have people supporting a family on $5.15 an hour. The response has to take the needs of business, the needs of highschool kids who want spending money, and the needs of every day hard working people into account all at once. This isn't a problem to be hit with a hammer, even if the hammer is the only thing that can be easily described on a bumper sticker.
As for clamining that all minimum wage workers are lazy, well... I don't understand those people. I can't imagine how you can consider somebody who works fourty hours for only a tiny reward to be lazy.
No, I didn't trod all over my own argument... Did you stop reading when you got to that part?
You need to do something that targets the people in need, not something that targets everybody, or you do more harm than good.
People move up the ladder by getting an education, taking a min wage job rather than going to college is a great way to get stuck at the bottom rung.
Most of the experts disagree. That first job is just as important as the education. You need both. Almost everybody starts at minimum wage, and most people don't get stuck on the bottom rung.
Not only that, but low minimum wages move us backward as a society
Care to back that up with more than washington rhetoric? Please, site one non-lobbyist expert.
The choice of keeping a more or less permanent underclass to perform these tasks keeps us from moving forward into a time when no one will actually need to do a job they don't want to do.
Once again, you're missing the point. The minimum wage isn't a class issue. Most of the people earning minimum wage aren't the primary providers for their family.
a wages that barely cover subsistance
Not everybody needs to earn a living wage at the current point in their life. As long as that is true (it will always be true), the only thing you will accomplish by raising it is increasing unemployment, which makes the poor even poorer.
Libertarianism is the opiate of the upper classes.
Hah!
Ever notice how it's the guilty feeling people of the middle class that push for a minimum wage hike? The parent of this thread certainly did. That's how this conversation got started.
But why couldn't something along the lines of a corporate revolution happen?
Right now, or in the forseeable future? Easy. Because the corporations enable our lifestyles. Nobody wants to give up quality of life, and the corporations are giving far more than they are taking away in that department right now.
If another depression were to happen, do you think people could start to realise that there was something wrong with the ways
the corporations were acting?
That's a *huge* if. We're not even close to that. Even the worst of the doom and gloom talking heads aren't predicting that, and if it were to come it would likely be due to non-corporate events. Also, for the most part there isn't anything wrong with the way most corporations act. It's just that the bad ones give the rest a bad name.
Others will never notice they lost anything.
You can't lose something that you give away.
Most of those things he mentioned people think are great, because those things mean that they either get a bargain, or that they're protecting 'the children'. The rest of them people either don't notice or wouldn't care about even if you managed to successfully get them to understand why it is that you care about them.
Maybe there will be another American revolution some day to try and put back into place a government whose altruistic ideals can be effected indefinitely.
Yeah, right. Most of that stuff in the post didn't even have anything to do with state or federal govenrment. It was mostly corporate and people giving their privacy away under their own accord.
The best part was where he described journalists as 'the people who are supposed to be looking out for him'. What a hoot. Somebody needs a lesson in capatilism, and some friendly advice not to be so trusting lest he look in the mirror and find out he's one of the people giving away bits of himself for no good reason.
How come 30 million people have to try to live on $5.15 an hour? How are their voices not heard?
Here's a hint: More than half of them aren't even old enough to vote if they wanted to (and if they were, they'd be statistically unlikely to vote anyway). The minimum wage is a heart-string issue. The Democrats tote it out to get emotional votes out of the section of their base that hasn't engaged their brain. It's the Democrats' version of school prayer.
Not everybody needs to earn a living wage. Some people are dependents to other people, or are children. It is important that low wage jobs exist, or it would be difficult to get that first job that lets you start climbing the ladder. Stop and think, and read a bit. You will find that politicians and armchair economists are the biggest supporters of a minimum wage hike. It's never the people who are supposedly harmed by the low minimum wage crying for an increase, and most of the groups that advocate for those very same people think it's dumb too.... All those people want an expansion of the EITC instead.
the relationship between workers and their environments
If you have to touch it while you're working, it's "ergonomic" by definition.
Ask for the results of their clinical study. When they can't give them to you, realize that it's cheaper to correct your bad habits than it is to buy their unproven junk. It's a technique that has the added advantage of working ant any computer you sit down at, not just the one with your overpriced peripheral.
Most computer users with a hand or wrist RSI got it doing something other than using their computer anyway. You're more likely to get an RSI through occational screwdriver use than continual keyboard and mouse use assuming you have proper posture.
Give me a break. A major feature would be the rumored playstation emulator, or signifiganty improved power management... The web browser was a major feature. This update didn't add any capabilities to the device, it only made an existing capability slightly easier to use. That is practically the definition of a minor update.
That's an interesting way to do it.
Around here, the taxes are handled by the state, and the permits are handled by the town (and the deeds and maps are handled by the county, guaranteeing three different trips and three different fees to get anything done). If you want sales taxes waived, you show your tax ID (glorified name for a piece of ink-jet printed cardstock that was rubber stamped) and they take down the number... But I'm pretty sure that building materials for resale via construction projects aren't tax exempt, so you're paying the sales tax regardless.
Heck, we still have people without cable TV here in spots
And hopefully they never will...
It's a waste of resources and one more company that has waiver to tounce all over private property to have infrastructure that is completely unnecessary. Laying cable for a uni-directional service is rediculous. That's what RF broadcasting is perfect for. Those people should get a sattelite dish; even if they have to put it at the top of a 50ft pole to get line of sight.
The unfortunate part is that a lot of people in this country really would rather be safe than free.
...and apparently you've confused vengence for justice as well.
I don't see that. I think that it's more that people don't understand what freedom is... however:
accept that despite our best efforts bad people will do bad things from time to time
You apparently don't either...
if anything bad does happen they'll be punished for it
Just because you're an extremest on the other side of the issues you oppose dosen't mean you're protected from being unintentionally hypocritical. Stop and think, won't you? Perhaps actually try reading some of what some great americans have written. I recommend the Atlantic Charter (FDR & Winston Churchill), and Ben Franklin's letters. I think you will find that you, like are current government, are forgetting two of the four freedoms... The other two... At the very least, you'll find that like most great thinkers, their perspective is more nuanced than what you might learn from a single clever quotation.
Anybody can use Home Depot's 'Contractor Check-Out'. I use it all the time. It's just a marketing tool.
Users who need the performance or cutting edge features are, unfortunatly, unable to happily take their dollars elsewhere. That allows them to get away with not caring about the one in 100,000 who do what you are doing.
Nah, it's not a bad thing. It's just fairly reliable and easy to base predictions off of. Personally, I like to bring it up anytime somebody is insisting that the course of technology for a particular market is *perfect* and should continue marching forward unchanged.
Ok, considered.... And dismissed.
I hate how people write off ATI and Nvidia as Open Source scrooges since their drivers are closed. The reality is that their code isn't all home grown and they couldn't open source it even if they wanted to. The copyright and patent holders on their licensed technologies wouldn't let them.
Lots of routers run Linux. Very few of Linksys' routers run linux. They're also overpriced and have a poor security record.