I haven't really seen any actual development outside Navigator and MailNews, not even on Editor/Composer and the Address Book. Don't forget that the old calendar (Zulu) died and got removed from the tree, somewhere within the last month or so.
Really, we're just seeing something that people actually did care about return from the dead.
Or anyone else for that matter... We don't even have the calendar code for checking in yet. Until OEone gets a good beta made, we've nothing except some uninteresting little side projects (a to-do list and a jotpad).
And then, when we do have the code, and have it checked in, it's pretty much hands off until Moz1.0 anyways. Things like this will keep popping up, probably, but it'll all be sidetracked until we finish the golden milestone.
Anyways, if a calendar/pim isn't enough, there's always supporting the (non-)project mozOffice at http://mozoffice.mozdev.org/ for those of you who are interested.
At first it was cool to see that an article of mine was accepted. But now, when I want to get the latest daily, I can't find out if it's good or not (the easy way) since Mozillazine is down. Let this be a warning to anyone who submits something that's important to them... It might come back and bite you in the ass.
At my former high school, I was constantly at ends with staff and other students about my opinions. Of course, it isn't surprising that for "most" of my last two months (Sept-Oct 2000), I was "skipping". In all actuality, I was helping move for a week and only skipped about another week's classes.
When I have children, if I find them being opressed in school because of their views, I will promptly head over to the school, beat up any staff members involved, and take my kids to a new school. Regardless of any laws I might be breaking.
Oh, by the way, anyone have any thermite? My ex-vice principal has a nice car that costs too much for what she makes... >=(
Of all those, the only one I'm somewhat good at is CSS. I'm still learning XUL, and I need a book on JavaScript (next paycheck means visit to ORA's store...)
Where did you scrounge that up? Search Bugzilla for "bugs" marked mozilla1.0 that aren't resolved... There's still a lot to go. We're definately going to see 0.9.1 and 0.9.2 before we see 1.0, trust me.
I've been waiting since Monday, because that's when the roadmap said that 0.8 would be out. Does this mean I should adjust all the days to two days later?
And it seems that we aren't going to make 1.0 anytime soon. With all the bugs, features, etc. that are supposed to be in 1.0, we'll be lucky to see it before mid to late Q4. =(
Still, that's no reason to give up. If I could code reasonably good C++ I'd be helping, but since I can't, I'll be keeping up the advocacy. So could anyone suggest any good cheap books that could help me do C++ well enough to help with Mozilla development?
First of all, you need something before you lose it. Lots of people these days are completely clueless, computer or no. Look at how many people don't know how to cook, instead just shooting radiation at their meals or going to a fast food place so they can have heart attacks in their 50s. Etc.
Me, I'm almost 18. I have some short term memory loss, had it for some time before I started using computers other than my old C64 (which is useless for storing info, IMHO, but a hell of a toy =). The only bad things that have happened to me because of computers is that my eyesight isn't perfect anymore, and my wrists are sore a lot (from typing, that's all...).
The idea that we are losing our memory from using computers is completely laughable to me.
What happened was the Russians gave up the moon, so the Americans decided, "aw, fsck it. Let's just sit on our asses like the lazy NASA dumbasses we are."
Of course, I haven't seen anything to prevent non-government organizations putting people into space, save costs. So if we didn't have money, we'd prolly have people on the moon, and Mars, etc.
Hehehe! The sun? Somebody give him a point for Funny!
But seriously, you're right, save for meteor and the sun. IMHO, colonization of a meteor would never work. This belief I shall hold until you can tell me, where shall we place it? What use would it be? Etc.
And colonization of the sun is completely unfeasible. It's so boilingly hot!
But yes, start with the oceans, then the moon (it's time someone goes back there... are you listening NASA?), and then Mars. But not before understanding Mars and it's mysteries (See the post just above this one).
And after Mars, that opens us up to the asteroid belt, which supposedly is very mineral-rich. Mining operations, defense of the inner planets (in case we aren't alone), etc.
Before we start tampering with Mars to make it livable for us humans, we should first do a highly thorough (sp?) geological and biological review. Especially if there is or has been life there. There are many, many mysteries on Mars, and just terraforming the planet before we study these mysteries will most likely destroy them.
I would hold off terraforming for at least five years after first landing, to give time for the hands-on research of the planet. Otherwise, it will be like when the Spaniards came to North and Central America, destroying cultures before understanding them.
Heed my warning, people! There are things we should know about Mars before we change it to whatever we want.
"Furthermore, Microsoft will ensure that.NET services work best when used on PCs running Windows."
In other words,.NET only works on Windows. Yes, I would consider that to make it cause the split to be useless.
He got that job because that's where his character's uncle placed him. Said something on the lines of "just put him somewhere". Had that movie (well, my father did) but it seems to have been sent away somewhere. Don't even remember the name.
When things like this happen, you only make it worse by gloating like a fool. It shows excessive pride, an arrogance, which is wrong. It shows that you're the fool yourself.
Gloating isn't going to fix this problem, so get off your ass and do something to stop these things from happening again.
A man is wise when he knows he is a fool.
More proof that businesses should be heavily regulated. Other than really small businesses, I swear that not a single for-profit organization gives half a rat's ass about it's employees.
And when the government does nothing to help, that screams that the government is either completely useless, or that it's been supressed, bought off, etc., by the businesses.
I think it's time when the people of the world rise up and throw off the shackles forced on them by businesses. You can see that business is evil and a negative influence on everything, from people to the environment. It's time we fought with something more effective than litigation.
This is it boys, this is war.
I find Outlook (in my case, Express) to be a very good mail client. The ability to sort out all my different e-mail accounts into different categories (my business, personal, and magazine) is a godsend. It can handle POP3, IMAP, and HTTP mail servers. The real Outlook is really a PIM with this incredible (although M$-made) mail client in it, and if I could get my hands on an MS Office CD, I would, just for Outlook (I think Lotus SmartSuite's grown on me, 'cept for Organizer).
When I do get my Linux box sometime soon, what's the closest thing to Outlook? I'm going to want it _badly_.
I am (sort of) working on one right now, based on the very interesting Programmer's Workbench from M$' old PDS packages. It's one of the few things from Redmond that I like (the other being QuickBasic, hehehe).
What I am hoping to have in my IDE is all the usual. Syntax coloring, notepad, project file that can be used to generate a makefile, etc. I am programming this in QuickBasic, and with the help of a QB to C converter that I am helping out with, will create happy portable C code for all to enjoy.
I know it sounds like blind idealism, but it is ideals that bring changes and new things. Anyways, PWB rocked!
"Malfunction" is nothing more than propaganda and assorted bullcrap from M$? One does not learn from seeing things from a single point of view. That's brainwashing, and I'm sure everyone who goes through this has such a thing done to them.
Then again, we can't be hypocrites and only show them our particular angle alone.
So what are we to do? We must show both platforms, use of each, and show the ups and downs of each. If they make their own choice, then that's one less clone, whether for us or against.
In my opinion, walking around the site might help us decide just what advice to give, personally tailored just for that specific site. I know that I would rather recieve something personalized than some boilertext help (although with spam, the boilertext is better, easier to get rid of =). So Beowulf_Boy's post here should not have been Offtopic'd. If the guy did put up a banner ad, and then we all swarmed like lemmings to his site, imagine the money he would get... (=
When somebody out there wishes to complain agaist his business. When someone has a complaint, especially a legit one, and someone else tries to block it, it's called fascism. In the real world, when this sort of thing happens, all Hell is raised. But here on the internet, barely a whisper outside of sites like this one.
I think it's time for an all-out assault on the pigs that try to rule us as if we were merely cattle with wallets. Stop purchasing anything that is not required to live or go online. No more movies, no more crappy merchandise, nothing more than clothing, food, shelter, and a phone line.
Or are we all just spineless like those corporate cocksuckers think we are? Take up your weapons, people of the world, for with them we can destroy even the gods we created. But without them, our idols will destroy us utterly.
(I sincerely hope this does not come off as flamebait. My use of strong language is due to the fact that I feel quite strongly on this issue.)
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I haven't really seen any actual development outside Navigator and MailNews, not even on Editor/Composer and the Address Book. Don't forget that the old calendar (Zulu) died and got removed from the tree, somewhere within the last month or so.
Really, we're just seeing something that people actually did care about return from the dead.
Or anyone else for that matter... We don't even have the calendar code for checking in yet. Until OEone gets a good beta made, we've nothing except some uninteresting little side projects (a to-do list and a jotpad).
And then, when we do have the code, and have it checked in, it's pretty much hands off until Moz1.0 anyways. Things like this will keep popping up, probably, but it'll all be sidetracked until we finish the golden milestone.
Anyways, if a calendar/pim isn't enough, there's always supporting the (non-)project mozOffice at http://mozoffice.mozdev.org/ for those of you who are interested.
At first it was cool to see that an article of mine was accepted. But now, when I want to get the latest daily, I can't find out if it's good or not (the easy way) since Mozillazine is down. Let this be a warning to anyone who submits something that's important to them... It might come back and bite you in the ass.
It's probably since I didn't do for the links... They had to modify the last sentence, and that became the remarks to what I submitted.
:P
Maybe next time...
Whoever moderated to say it was, hand in your moderating gun. Also, you can no longer tell people of Slashdot's f1r5t ps0tz!
Hell. So far, that's the most on-topic thing I've read (apart from my own submission, of course).
At my former high school, I was constantly at ends with staff and other students about my opinions. Of course, it isn't surprising that for "most" of my last two months (Sept-Oct 2000), I was "skipping". In all actuality, I was helping move for a week and only skipped about another week's classes.
When I have children, if I find them being opressed in school because of their views, I will promptly head over to the school, beat up any staff members involved, and take my kids to a new school. Regardless of any laws I might be breaking.
Oh, by the way, anyone have any thermite? My ex-vice principal has a nice car that costs too much for what she makes... >=(
Of all those, the only one I'm somewhat good at is CSS. I'm still learning XUL, and I need a book on JavaScript (next paycheck means visit to ORA's store...)
Where did you scrounge that up? Search Bugzilla for "bugs" marked mozilla1.0 that aren't resolved... There's still a lot to go. We're definately going to see 0.9.1 and 0.9.2 before we see 1.0, trust me.
I've been waiting since Monday, because that's when the roadmap said that 0.8 would be out. Does this mean I should adjust all the days to two days later?
And it seems that we aren't going to make 1.0 anytime soon. With all the bugs, features, etc. that are supposed to be in 1.0, we'll be lucky to see it before mid to late Q4. =(
Still, that's no reason to give up. If I could code reasonably good C++ I'd be helping, but since I can't, I'll be keeping up the advocacy. So could anyone suggest any good cheap books that could help me do C++ well enough to help with Mozilla development?
First of all, you need something before you lose it. Lots of people these days are completely clueless, computer or no. Look at how many people don't know how to cook, instead just shooting radiation at their meals or going to a fast food place so they can have heart attacks in their 50s. Etc.
Me, I'm almost 18. I have some short term memory loss, had it for some time before I started using computers other than my old C64 (which is useless for storing info, IMHO, but a hell of a toy =). The only bad things that have happened to me because of computers is that my eyesight isn't perfect anymore, and my wrists are sore a lot (from typing, that's all...).
The idea that we are losing our memory from using computers is completely laughable to me.
What happened was the Russians gave up the moon, so the Americans decided, "aw, fsck it. Let's just sit on our asses like the lazy NASA dumbasses we are."
Of course, I haven't seen anything to prevent non-government organizations putting people into space, save costs. So if we didn't have money, we'd prolly have people on the moon, and Mars, etc.
Hehehe! The sun? Somebody give him a point for Funny!
But seriously, you're right, save for meteor and the sun. IMHO, colonization of a meteor would never work. This belief I shall hold until you can tell me, where shall we place it? What use would it be? Etc.
And colonization of the sun is completely unfeasible. It's so boilingly hot!
But yes, start with the oceans, then the moon (it's time someone goes back there... are you listening NASA?), and then Mars. But not before understanding Mars and it's mysteries (See the post just above this one).
And after Mars, that opens us up to the asteroid belt, which supposedly is very mineral-rich. Mining operations, defense of the inner planets (in case we aren't alone), etc.
Before we start tampering with Mars to make it livable for us humans, we should first do a highly thorough (sp?) geological and biological review. Especially if there is or has been life there. There are many, many mysteries on Mars, and just terraforming the planet before we study these mysteries will most likely destroy them.
I would hold off terraforming for at least five years after first landing, to give time for the hands-on research of the planet. Otherwise, it will be like when the Spaniards came to North and Central America, destroying cultures before understanding them.
Heed my warning, people! There are things we should know about Mars before we change it to whatever we want.
"Furthermore, Microsoft will ensure that .NET services work best when used on PCs running Windows."
.NET only works on Windows. Yes, I would consider that to make it cause the split to be useless.
In other words,
He got that job because that's where his character's uncle placed him. Said something on the lines of "just put him somewhere". Had that movie (well, my father did) but it seems to have been sent away somewhere. Don't even remember the name.
When things like this happen, you only make it worse by gloating like a fool. It shows excessive pride, an arrogance, which is wrong. It shows that you're the fool yourself.
Gloating isn't going to fix this problem, so get off your ass and do something to stop these things from happening again.
A man is wise when he knows he is a fool.
More proof that businesses should be heavily regulated. Other than really small businesses, I swear that not a single for-profit organization gives half a rat's ass about it's employees.
And when the government does nothing to help, that screams that the government is either completely useless, or that it's been supressed, bought off, etc., by the businesses.
I think it's time when the people of the world rise up and throw off the shackles forced on them by businesses. You can see that business is evil and a negative influence on everything, from people to the environment. It's time we fought with something more effective than litigation.
This is it boys, this is war.
Yeah! Where the hell is my robot butler? I've had it up to here carrying my laundry to the washing machine! Fiveteen feet is too far!
I just discovered Mozilla. Well, not really discover. But if it had PIM features in it, I would have everything I want.
But does KMail have heavy PIM features too? That's what I'm asking. PIM, e-mail, and newsreader.
I find Outlook (in my case, Express) to be a very good mail client. The ability to sort out all my different e-mail accounts into different categories (my business, personal, and magazine) is a godsend. It can handle POP3, IMAP, and HTTP mail servers. The real Outlook is really a PIM with this incredible (although M$-made) mail client in it, and if I could get my hands on an MS Office CD, I would, just for Outlook (I think Lotus SmartSuite's grown on me, 'cept for Organizer).
When I do get my Linux box sometime soon, what's the closest thing to Outlook? I'm going to want it _badly_.
I am (sort of) working on one right now, based on the very interesting Programmer's Workbench from M$' old PDS packages. It's one of the few things from Redmond that I like (the other being QuickBasic, hehehe).
What I am hoping to have in my IDE is all the usual. Syntax coloring, notepad, project file that can be used to generate a makefile, etc. I am programming this in QuickBasic, and with the help of a QB to C converter that I am helping out with, will create happy portable C code for all to enjoy.
I know it sounds like blind idealism, but it is ideals that bring changes and new things. Anyways, PWB rocked!
"Malfunction" is nothing more than propaganda and assorted bullcrap from M$? One does not learn from seeing things from a single point of view. That's brainwashing, and I'm sure everyone who goes through this has such a thing done to them.
Then again, we can't be hypocrites and only show them our particular angle alone.
So what are we to do? We must show both platforms, use of each, and show the ups and downs of each. If they make their own choice, then that's one less clone, whether for us or against.
In my opinion, walking around the site might help us decide just what advice to give, personally tailored just for that specific site. I know that I would rather recieve something personalized than some boilertext help (although with spam, the boilertext is better, easier to get rid of =). So Beowulf_Boy's post here should not have been Offtopic'd. If the guy did put up a banner ad, and then we all swarmed like lemmings to his site, imagine the money he would get... (=
When somebody out there wishes to complain agaist his business. When someone has a complaint, especially a legit one, and someone else tries to block it, it's called fascism. In the real world, when this sort of thing happens, all Hell is raised. But here on the internet, barely a whisper outside of sites like this one.
I think it's time for an all-out assault on the pigs that try to rule us as if we were merely cattle with wallets. Stop purchasing anything that is not required to live or go online. No more movies, no more crappy merchandise, nothing more than clothing, food, shelter, and a phone line.
Or are we all just spineless like those corporate cocksuckers think we are? Take up your weapons, people of the world, for with them we can destroy even the gods we created. But without them, our idols will destroy us utterly.
(I sincerely hope this does not come off as flamebait. My use of strong language is due to the fact that I feel quite strongly on this issue.)