One would think that if they were going to make a law, that they would make it a little more generic... I fail to see why killing someone with a computer should have to be treated any differently that using any other tool, whether it be knife, gun, cow launched via catapult, etc.
for the same reason we have different laws for "hate" crimes.
If we had followed his advice (in relation to IT) from the start, just imagine where we would be today!
we would be where we were 10 years ago. Competition and money are what has driven computer technology to what we see today.
Information wants to be free, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
Information wants to be free, but software, music and movies are not information. (your bank account/pin number are both forms of information, can you give it to me?)
Sure it is. If he feels it is over-priced, he should vote by not using it or creating a free alternative.
When people start to confuse alternatives with piracy is where things get really scary...(DMCA et al)M
right. But by "pirating" it, you are proving that it is useful. (otherwise you WOULD be using a free alternative, and corporate america would have nothing to bitch about).
In my biassed opinion, Andromeda [turnstyle.com] is consistantly among Freshmeat's most popular MP3 projects [freshmeat.net] for a reason. Anyways, the free version is free.
There it is. Tell your friends and let them decide
how about the the most important con of lindows:
the fact that the majority of the mainstream applications that johnny enduser decieds to install will most likely be incomopatible. (aside from office).
Oh, and you can't run windoze 2000 on older machines, or machines with weird unsupported hardware, so if you want windoze, you're stuck with screwing around with an older version (windos95/98) for a few days in the hopes that it will work
and linux has a larger variety of hardware support? I think not.
I certainly can SELL GPL'd software/code - I can even sell it to you for ten bajillion million dollars. I just have to provide you with the source code and I cannot limit your right to modify and distribute the software/code.
No, dipshit, the people who designed the TCP protocol are responisible for that one.
I might add that BSD doesn't have the SYN attack problem.
The stupid design decisions which have allowed email viruses to cause billions of dollars worth of DoSs, on the other hand, are entirely Microsoft's. No other email client/server/OS is vulnerable, unless they've been stupid enough to implement VBS macros for compatibility, along with the various other anti-security decisions Microsoft made.
if we're going to start shifting the blame, how about on the real culprit...the person who wrote it.
Hey! Idiotboy! That was a story submission, nothing in there was written by the Slashdot editors. Given how long you've been spouting your lying bullshit around here, you'd figure even a cretin like you'd be able to tell the difference. It's real simple: if it's in italics, it was the story submitter who wrote it, not the editor.
Fucking mental incompetent
are you that same dumshit AC that keeps following my posts, and following up with asshole remarks?
There IS a difference-- we have strict building codes to minimize this risk-- with stiff penalties for violations. Maybe we should do this with software.
Please do us all a favor and shove your bullshit excuses up your ass. Every single email virus is due to Microsoft's stupid design decisions. They're Microsoft's fault just as much as the virus writers'. Code Red et al are due to sloppy Microsoft coding. Exonerating Microsoft is completely fucking absurd, and everyone who isn't an astroturfer or a troll knows it. Finally, care to present some evidence that all those virus writers use Unix? Me, I'm betting most of the macro virus script kiddies use Windoze, as they're almost as mentally incompetent as you are.
Then linus should be to blame when people's systems get fucked over due to a SYN attack. (which I might is still a problem with many unices, even with syn-cookie protection).
Because the GPL is a grant of rights, and one who ignores it gains nothing -- as has been explained on Slashdot hundreds of times. Apparently both you and the person who moderated up this post overlooked those explanations, though
really?
tell that to the companies that comrade stallman and the FSF hounded for source.
ignoring the GPL license gives you free sourcecode.
I keep thinking that maybe, just maybe, if I type slowly enough, one of these extremely simple concepts will seep through the shrinkwrap on your brain. I'm really losing hope, though. The point is that the passengers wouldn't have had the will to do anything about the terrorists even if armed, because up until that point the best way to ensure everyone made it off the plane alive was to cooperate with the terrorists. Therefore, the passengers would most likely not have allowed hostages to be killed, but would rather have cooperated, given up their weapons, and EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING THING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Arming the passengers *might* help today, now that the people in any plane hijacking are going to assume that they're dead anyway, but it wouldn't have done shit on 9/11.
Do you have some kinda inferiority complex asshole? (maybe if I insult you, my point will become more valid than yours).
honestly, although 90% of the people on the airplanes would have done nothing, there would have been at least one or two that would have done something, and that's all that matters.
The terrorists had fucking boxcutters. They might not have tried at all if they knew so many people were armed....
Instead, the terrorists themselves would have had guns. They would have immediately killed the pilots and crew (they probably did anyway), and any passengers who resisted. They also would have forced the remaining passengers to give up their weapons by taking hostages.
Remember, none of the passengers on the WTC flights knew that they were part of a suicide mission
wrong.
If they had guns, they would also have some sort of basic training. (and thus a better chance at defending themselves).
It doesn't matter if they knew they were part of a suicide mission or not. A terrorist is a terrorist.
Getting people to pay for something they can download for free isn't easy. I think the answer is to get the money up-front, but still make the results of the work open source:
why doesn't the GPL make it so ONLY the source can be re-distributed and used. This way, the average joe user who doesn't have a compiler will pay for it, and the person with more knowledge can view the source.
Many (most?) open source programmers develope software in their spare time ebcasue they enjoy it. It's their hobby. They could jsut as well have been painting or sculpting or something.
And let's be realistic. If you have 3 kids and wife and bills to pay... get a real job
then why are so many fucking people on slashdot against the article?
Why did it take over five years for Internet Explorer to stop crashing on CSS and Java pages and a plethora of other plugins? Why does it still have holes so fucking wide you can see to tomorrow by typing a gopher:// link? Why does Media Player and Quicktime still crash in browsers and choke on its own interactive content? Oh yeah, now I remember
Because you're still using windows98. I have windows XP pro, and aside from the gopher security whole, I see none of those problems.
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One would think that if they were going to make a law, that they would make it a little more generic... I fail to see why killing someone with a computer should have to be treated any differently that using any other tool, whether it be knife, gun, cow launched via catapult, etc.
for the same reason we have different laws for "hate" crimes.
If we had followed his advice (in relation to IT) from the start, just imagine where we would be today!
we would be where we were 10 years ago. Competition and money are what has driven computer technology to what we see today.
Information wants to be free, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
Information wants to be free, but software, music and movies are not information. (your bank account/pin number are both forms of information, can you give it to me?)
Sure it is. If he feels it is over-priced, he should vote by not using it or creating a free alternative.
When people start to confuse alternatives with piracy is where things get really scary...(DMCA et al)M
right. But by "pirating" it, you are proving that it is useful. (otherwise you WOULD be using a free alternative, and corporate america would have nothing to bitch about).
Not true, how much does Samba get pirated, or Snort, Apache, PHP, MySQL, Squid etc etc.... M
when it's source code is "ripped", and sold for profit..
In my biassed opinion, Andromeda [turnstyle.com] is consistantly among Freshmeat's most popular MP3 projects [freshmeat.net] for a reason. Anyways, the free version is free.
just get intellimp3
Those who can, do... Those who can't, teach
those who think this way must be students...
There it is. Tell your friends and let them decide
how about the the most important con of lindows:
the fact that the majority of the mainstream applications that johnny enduser decieds to install will most likely be incomopatible. (aside from office).
Oh, and you can't run windoze 2000 on older machines, or machines with weird unsupported hardware, so if you want windoze, you're stuck with screwing around with an older version (windos95/98) for a few days in the hopes that it will work
and linux has a larger variety of hardware support? I think not.
it is about 1/100 of any microsoft OS.
I guess kde is progressing as slowly as windows was trying to catch up to mac. that means we have to wait 5 years.
you mean a monopoly over the softwar AND hardware market?
I certainly can SELL GPL'd software/code - I can even sell it to you for ten bajillion million dollars. I just have to provide you with the source code and I cannot limit your right to modify and distribute the software/code.
so why the hell would I buy it then?
heh.
No, dipshit, the people who designed the TCP protocol are responisible for that one.
I might add that BSD doesn't have the SYN attack problem.
The stupid design decisions which have allowed email viruses to cause billions of dollars worth of DoSs, on the other hand, are entirely Microsoft's. No other email client/server/OS is vulnerable, unless they've been stupid enough to implement VBS macros for compatibility, along with the various other anti-security decisions Microsoft made.
if we're going to start shifting the blame, how about on the real culprit...the person who wrote it.
Why bother? What makes you think that stupidity like yours deserves a real reply?
Oh, and guess what, cretin: AC or not, I'm still right. Deal with it, little boy
you have a lot to learn....
Hey! Idiotboy! That was a story submission, nothing in there was written by the Slashdot editors. Given how long you've been spouting your lying bullshit around here, you'd figure even a cretin like you'd be able to tell the difference. It's real simple: if it's in italics, it was the story submitter who wrote it, not the editor.
Fucking mental incompetent
are you that same dumshit AC that keeps following my posts, and following up with asshole remarks?
why don't get a real account, fucknuts!
There IS a difference-- we have strict building codes to minimize this risk-- with stiff penalties for violations. Maybe we should do this with software.
only if GNU software is under the same laws
Please do us all a favor and shove your bullshit excuses up your ass. Every single email virus is due to Microsoft's stupid design decisions. They're Microsoft's fault just as much as the virus writers'. Code Red et al are due to sloppy Microsoft coding. Exonerating Microsoft is completely fucking absurd, and everyone who isn't an astroturfer or a troll knows it. Finally, care to present some evidence that all those virus writers use Unix? Me, I'm betting most of the macro virus script kiddies use Windoze, as they're almost as mentally incompetent as you are.
Then linus should be to blame when people's systems get fucked over due to a SYN attack. (which I might is still a problem with many unices, even with syn-cookie protection).
This is why most OS projects are done as a hobby, not as a job. You give back to the community on your own time, but still put food on the table
the editors of slashdot have a different opinion
Because the GPL is a grant of rights, and one who ignores it gains nothing -- as has been explained on Slashdot hundreds of times. Apparently both you and the person who moderated up this post overlooked those explanations, though
really?
tell that to the companies that comrade stallman and the FSF hounded for source.
ignoring the GPL license gives you free sourcecode.
There's a finite supply of programming jobs
and there is also a finite number of customers. If everyone got their music for free, the company releasing the music would never make money.
Downloading music does not reduce the supply of music available, as much as idiots like you and the RIAA want to pretend it does
I think I just hit a sore spot with you, personally. The truth cannot be bent every which way to suit your needs.
Downloading music hurts sales as much as overseas (cheap) programmers hurt american programmer jobs.
I keep thinking that maybe, just maybe, if I type slowly enough, one of these extremely simple concepts will seep through the shrinkwrap on your brain. I'm really losing hope, though. The point is that the passengers wouldn't have had the will to do anything about the terrorists even if armed, because up until that point the best way to ensure everyone made it off the plane alive was to cooperate with the terrorists. Therefore, the passengers would most likely not have allowed hostages to be killed, but would rather have cooperated, given up their weapons, and EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING THING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Arming the passengers *might* help today, now that the people in any plane hijacking are going to assume that they're dead anyway, but it wouldn't have done shit on 9/11.
Do you have some kinda inferiority complex asshole? (maybe if I insult you, my point will become more valid than yours).
honestly, although 90% of the people on the airplanes would have done nothing, there would have been at least one or two that would have done something, and that's all that matters.
The terrorists had fucking boxcutters. They might not have tried at all if they knew so many people were armed....
You're absolutely right.
Instead, the terrorists themselves would have had guns. They would have immediately killed the pilots and crew (they probably did anyway), and any passengers who resisted. They also would have forced the remaining passengers to give up their weapons by taking hostages.
Remember, none of the passengers on the WTC flights knew that they were part of a suicide mission
wrong.
If they had guns, they would also have some sort of basic training. (and thus a better chance at defending themselves).
It doesn't matter if they knew they were part of a suicide mission or not. A terrorist is a terrorist.
Getting people to pay for something they can download for free isn't easy. I think the answer is to get the money up-front, but still make the results of the work open source:
why doesn't the GPL make it so ONLY the source can be re-distributed and used. This way, the average joe user who doesn't have a compiler will pay for it, and the person with more knowledge can view the source.
Many (most?) open source programmers develope software in their spare time ebcasue they enjoy it. It's their hobby. They could jsut as well have been painting or sculpting or something.
... get a real job
And let's be realistic. If you have 3 kids and wife and bills to pay
then why are so many fucking people on slashdot against the article?
A chef who relies on his secrets to stay afloat quite frankly is the rare idiot who deserves to starve
kind of like microsoft?
'nuff said
Why did it take over five years for Internet Explorer to stop crashing on CSS and Java pages and a plethora of other plugins? Why does it still have holes so fucking wide you can see to tomorrow by typing a gopher:// link? Why does Media Player and Quicktime still crash in browsers and choke on its own interactive content? Oh yeah, now I remember
Because you're still using windows98. I have windows XP pro, and aside from the gopher security whole, I see none of those problems.