... and, how many programmers do you know who actually use or care about enterprise calendaring systems? Sure, there are a few, but the vast majority of programmers despise meetings, don't need to go to many of them, and don't have any real use for calendaring systems in their "real" jobs. Only managers (like me, old ex-coder for years but been in management for about a decade or so) can't live without our enterprise calendaring systems. But see, we don't count in this case.
So, if it's not of interest to programmers, it's not gonna get created in any real, stable and solid way through OSS channels...
The most useful business skill a technical person can develop is the ability to look someone in the eye and lie to them with a straight face. As far as I can tell, that's what separates the good business people from the ones who will work 25 years in the same job and never make more than $40k.
Sorry, gotta disagree here. That's what separates "good" (more accurately effective) sales people from bad ones, not good business people from bad ones. If the people responsible for managing the business do this, or even let the sales people do it too much, there are two reasons the business will ultimately fail:
Reputation in the target market(s) will become so tainted people will not trust the company (I've witnessed this personally)
The internal operational stress/failure of trying to meet customer commitments based on lies will become so large that all the good people will leave (I've witnessed this personally as well)
Lying to customers may (or may not) solve some kinds of issues in the immediate-term, but used as a strategy will kill a business.
Yep, I was shocked... first troll I've bothered launching in a while, I didn't expect it to get even a little traction./. is a strange and wonderous place...
I certainly hope the USPTO and Microsoft get challenged on this by Intel. There is significant prior art that Intel owns in this case.
In 1995, as a contractor to Intel, I architected and developed a solution that delivered customized lists of news releases and other information to end users based on unique user tracking information. Cookies were not widely used yet, so we had to invent other mechanisms, which performed the same function. There should be plenty of documentation on this if people wanted to look for it. The system was publicly available on the Intel corporate website, for anybody to make use of.
A few years after I was associated with launching the project, it was rewritten to use cookies, and eventually Intel took the feature off their website.
If anybody at Intel wants assistance in tracking this down, feel free to contact me at arhspam at hootons dot org.
Who said he didn't succeed? Success isn't binary, it's analog... I would propose that he succeeded more than he didn't. I was just pointing out that his extremist views (in some eyes) have burdened his overall project down quite a bit and caused it to not reach as many of his goals as it might have reached otherwise.
Oh yeah! Sorry thing is, I even remember the address rewriting rules that MTA's had to deal with when '@'-style addresses were first introduced and both '!' and '@' style addresses had to be handled. Damned, we're old...
The shuttle is too expensive. It's a fine product, it's just a lot more money than the mini-itx boards.
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Alan, I'm truly glad to hear this. Especially given your placement in the overall scheme of things in this area. I know it has been slow in coming, but if Via is now seriously playing with the open source community, I hail them.
As of today, with your claims for the 2.4.21-ac3 build, I hereby retract all the nasty things I've said about Via's linux support... 8^)=
Even so... I *still* would like to see real, active, and committed vendors releasing mini-itx boards in addition to Via. Competition is a good thing, and it will help drive Via forward as well as giving the rest of us other options. For my embedded project, the EPIA-800 is working fine under Linux, but I'm not pushing the board very hard. Options from other vendors would bring many more people in to the mini-itx camp, helping everyone including Via.
Thanks for taking the time to let us know of your progress!
I've got an EPIA-800 w/ 256MB ram, ???GB eide hard drive (I don't remember), slim-line CD. I have installed both Mandrake 9.0 and 9.1 on it, and things went pretty well. Caveats:
I only installed the framebuffer SVGA drivers for X windows. It's all I need for what I'm doing (embedded product)
Not using sound
So far, I'm pretty happy with it. Yes, there are a number of problems out there w/ linux installs on these board depending on what you are doing (applies to any distro), but just from the standpoint of getting an install to work at all, I've had no problems with Mandrake (applies to other hardware as well, even hardware that other distros would not install on).
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I have been really hoping some other company would start releasing good mini-itx motherboards, other than Via. Their support for linux on the mini-itx boards is just really, really bad. Why is it that no other companies are releasing this form factor? It will be a huge part of the motherboard market (regardless of the OS), once there is some competition by the board manufacturers. Right now, we're all stuck with just one provider for these boards!
Is there somebody I have missed that is also making the mini-itx format?
...you are saying linux never has to be rebooted if the software being installed is complex and ties into the system pretty deep?
After 25+ years in software, and knowing more than I would like about MS OS internals, I can tell you that this issue (rebooting when installing applications) is due to a fundamental OS design flaw. The simple explanation is that, because of the way MS OSs are designed, it is almost always necessary for applications to include parts of the OS in their distributions (no flames from the software techies, this is overly-simplified, I know, but basically correct). Think of the horrible install problems with MFC42.DLL and the like that have been going on all these years. When an app install messes around with parts of the OS (because it has to), you are often forced to reboot for the install to complete.
Other systems (yes, including Linux) are designed so this blurring of the lines between OS and applications does not happen, and actually can not happen. Installing applications on these other systems never messes with the core pieces of the OS, and thus does not require rebooting to complete installations. I have never had to reboot a *nix system just to complete an app install, in 25 years of using those kinds of systems.
Come on, this is news? It's just a reworking of the timeshare model from the '70s (and '80s, and '90s, and...). Pay for what you use, pay as you go... call it what you want, this is not new, or news.
You have always stolen something from a financial standpoint, in the eyes of the law (and probably as viewed by the owners of the machines you've hacked). This is because you have utilized machine time/cycles on the machines you broke in to. You did not pay for this time/cycles, the owners of the machine(s) have, so you are stealing something of value.
This is how the argument goes. Just don't do it, it's dumb -- no smarter than jacking a car for a joyride. Nobody I know that wants to stay out of jail does either of these things.
BZZZZZ! Wrong! Don, tell him what he could have won....
There are always ways programs are not perfect. For instance, the program above does not take in to account that stdout may not be available -- if that happens (it does, trust me), the program will either not give the intended result or it will die altogether (depending on the system it's built/run on).
The perfect program does not exists, not even yours...
Oh, please... this is complete crap. IBM is profitable, they're smart, they've survived by knowing how to both leverage old technology in new ways (VMS, still making them hundreds of millions a year through various different business models), and pursuing "new" technologies in their own, conservative, focused, profitable kind of way (AIX, OS/2). Are they the most leading-edge? No. Are they the coolest? No. Are they a good example of how to keep your head down and make a profit in the software industry? Well, most of the time (yeah, they screw up like everybody else, but they recover more quickly than most too).
Don't get me wrong, I'm no IBM lover. I don't use any of their stuff at home, but when I've had large IT budgets to spend in big companies, they have often provided me the best price/performance I could find, and I went with them. And, my users have always been happy with the outcomes. I have always been impressed with their ability to roll with the changing industry and figure out a way to deliver value to people with checkbooks.
Oh, yeah -- just because *you* aren't in their target market doesn't make them wrong. They understand their target markets very well, and don't give a damn if you get it or not.
With all the recent competition this became such a low margin business. I wonder what amazon expects to get from it...
Eyeballs, of course! Go look through the Amazon SEC filings and other places... they get a lot of revenue from the little ads they sprinkle around their site. Even if this just breaks even, there will be that many more people cruising around their site, looking at ads they get paid for. Heck, some of those people might even buy something!
DIY Astronaut: "Houston, I'm running out of oxygen! Having trouble breathing. Why can't I get the air scrubbers to help make the air more breathable?"
Houston: "Hey, you've got all the RPMs you need up there already! First, check the dependencies on air-scrubber.2.4.16-20, and be sure you have air-scrubber-lib.2.4.14-4 loaded first, which is on CD #3, and...
WRONG! There are bunch of legal freqs in the US, go to your favorite local hobby store and look over the RC radio gear. If there were only two legal freqs, it sure would be hard on all the 10+ car and plane races I have seen in the past...
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... and, how many programmers do you know who actually use or care about enterprise calendaring systems? Sure, there are a few, but the vast majority of programmers despise meetings, don't need to go to many of them, and don't have any real use for calendaring systems in their "real" jobs. Only managers (like me, old ex-coder for years but been in management for about a decade or so) can't live without our enterprise calendaring systems. But see, we don't count in this case.
So, if it's not of interest to programmers, it's not gonna get created in any real, stable and solid way through OSS channels...
Of course you can't make money this way, that was clear to many people years ago. Earthlink just wasn't paying attention.
If you want to know why, just look at the work of groups like Personal Telco Projectin Portland, Oregon, U.S.A.
Sorry, gotta disagree here. That's what separates "good" (more accurately effective) sales people from bad ones, not good business people from bad ones. If the people responsible for managing the business do this, or even let the sales people do it too much, there are two reasons the business will ultimately fail:
Lying to customers may (or may not) solve some kinds of issues in the immediate-term, but used as a strategy will kill a business.
Yep, I was shocked... first troll I've bothered launching in a while, I didn't expect it to get even a little traction. /. is a strange and wonderous place...
...the phone could have been running Windows! Of course, then the first cell phone virus would have occurred ages ago...
He wasn't talking about PJ, he was talking about ObviousGuy, who wrote the parent to his post. Look at the parent thread...
In 1995, as a contractor to Intel, I architected and developed a solution that delivered customized lists of news releases and other information to end users based on unique user tracking information. Cookies were not widely used yet, so we had to invent other mechanisms, which performed the same function. There should be plenty of documentation on this if people wanted to look for it. The system was publicly available on the Intel corporate website, for anybody to make use of.
A few years after I was associated with launching the project, it was rewritten to use cookies, and eventually Intel took the feature off their website.
If anybody at Intel wants assistance in tracking this down, feel free to contact me at arhspam at hootons dot org.
Who said he didn't succeed? Success isn't binary, it's analog... I would propose that he succeeded more than he didn't. I was just pointing out that his extremist views (in some eyes) have burdened his overall project down quite a bit and caused it to not reach as many of his goals as it might have reached otherwise.
Oh yeah! Sorry thing is, I even remember the address rewriting rules that MTA's had to deal with when '@'-style addresses were first introduced and both '!' and '@' style addresses had to be handled. Damned, we're old...
...of how incredible ideas, while adding enormous value, can also be bogged down and lessened when attached to extremist views or politics.
The shuttle is too expensive. It's a fine product, it's just a lot more money than the mini-itx boards.
As of today, with your claims for the 2.4.21-ac3 build, I hereby retract all the nasty things I've said about Via's linux support... 8^)=
Even so... I *still* would like to see real, active, and committed vendors releasing mini-itx boards in addition to Via. Competition is a good thing, and it will help drive Via forward as well as giving the rest of us other options. For my embedded project, the EPIA-800 is working fine under Linux, but I'm not pushing the board very hard. Options from other vendors would bring many more people in to the mini-itx camp, helping everyone including Via.
Thanks for taking the time to let us know of your progress!
So far, I'm pretty happy with it. Yes, there are a number of problems out there w/ linux installs on these board depending on what you are doing (applies to any distro), but just from the standpoint of getting an install to work at all, I've had no problems with Mandrake (applies to other hardware as well, even hardware that other distros would not install on).
Is there somebody I have missed that is also making the mini-itx format?
After 25+ years in software, and knowing more than I would like about MS OS internals, I can tell you that this issue (rebooting when installing applications) is due to a fundamental OS design flaw. The simple explanation is that, because of the way MS OSs are designed, it is almost always necessary for applications to include parts of the OS in their distributions (no flames from the software techies, this is overly-simplified, I know, but basically correct). Think of the horrible install problems with MFC42.DLL and the like that have been going on all these years. When an app install messes around with parts of the OS (because it has to), you are often forced to reboot for the install to complete.
Other systems (yes, including Linux) are designed so this blurring of the lines between OS and applications does not happen, and actually can not happen. Installing applications on these other systems never messes with the core pieces of the OS, and thus does not require rebooting to complete installations. I have never had to reboot a *nix system just to complete an app install, in 25 years of using those kinds of systems.
Another thing that would be interesting: produce an OS that doesn't require rebooting just when you install apps!
Come on, this is news? It's just a reworking of the timeshare model from the '70s (and '80s, and '90s, and...). Pay for what you use, pay as you go... call it what you want, this is not new, or news.
This is how the argument goes. Just don't do it, it's dumb -- no smarter than jacking a car for a joyride. Nobody I know that wants to stay out of jail does either of these things.
Hmmm... OK, now that I see it in print, maybe it's not such a great pick-up line after all...
Do you still have to put "PMB" as a line of the address? (To cut down on "Suite 7800" scams being run out of these private mail boxes.)
You can use number sign ('#') or PMB, those are the only options now allowed. So, do something like this:
John Doe
5675 Nowhere St., #5800
Somewhere, FU
zipcode
It works fine, never a problem.
main()
{
printf("Hello world\n");
exit(0);
}
Now you have seen it.
BZZZZZ! Wrong! Don, tell him what he could have won....
There are always ways programs are not perfect. For instance, the program above does not take in to account that stdout may not be available -- if that happens (it does, trust me), the program will either not give the intended result or it will die altogether (depending on the system it's built/run on).
The perfect program does not exists, not even yours...
Oh, please... this is complete crap. IBM is profitable, they're smart, they've survived by knowing how to both leverage old technology in new ways (VMS, still making them hundreds of millions a year through various different business models), and pursuing "new" technologies in their own, conservative, focused, profitable kind of way (AIX, OS/2). Are they the most leading-edge? No. Are they the coolest? No. Are they a good example of how to keep your head down and make a profit in the software industry? Well, most of the time (yeah, they screw up like everybody else, but they recover more quickly than most too).
Don't get me wrong, I'm no IBM lover. I don't use any of their stuff at home, but when I've had large IT budgets to spend in big companies, they have often provided me the best price/performance I could find, and I went with them. And, my users have always been happy with the outcomes. I have always been impressed with their ability to roll with the changing industry and figure out a way to deliver value to people with checkbooks.
Oh, yeah -- just because *you* aren't in their target market doesn't make them wrong. They understand their target markets very well, and don't give a damn if you get it or not.
Eyeballs, of course! Go look through the Amazon SEC filings and other places... they get a lot of revenue from the little ads they sprinkle around their site. Even if this just breaks even, there will be that many more people cruising around their site, looking at ads they get paid for. Heck, some of those people might even buy something!
Houston: "Hey, you've got all the RPMs you need up there already! First, check the dependencies on air-scrubber.2.4.16-20, and be sure you have air-scrubber-lib.2.4.14-4 loaded first, which is on CD #3, and...
WRONG! There are bunch of legal freqs in the US, go to your favorite local hobby store and look over the RC radio gear. If there were only two legal freqs, it sure would be hard on all the 10+ car and plane races I have seen in the past...