Slashdot Mirror


Pocket-Sized RC Cars Hit U.S. Soil

airrage writes "RC cars are nothing new. But apparently, ZipZaps, now being sold at RadioShack, are pocket-sized, modifiable, and can be tricked out with body kits and other accessories. Even more impressive, "A 16,000-RPM performance motor is included with all starter kits". The story at extremetech here is." Kinda like the Thinkgeek cars. Yes, TG is part of OSDN - obligatory disclosure.

237 comments

  1. the whole story needs a disclaimer... by edrugtrader · · Score: 2, Funny

    i have seen these exact toys in airports for well over a year in the states. hope you spend the kickback money wisely taco...

    --
    MARIJUANA, SHROOMS, X: ONLINE?! - E
    1. Re:the whole story needs a disclaimer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mmmmmmmmm TACO!!!!!!!!

    2. Re:the whole story needs a disclaimer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, then they go on about how they are just like the ThinkGeek cars. Except the ThinkGeek cars cost 3 times as much and don't do half of what these cars do.

    3. Re:the whole story needs a disclaimer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I've had mine for almost a year now..

      Gave one to my brothers as well.

      *sigh*

      It would nice to see slashdot NOT behind the times when it comes to toys. See http://www.hlj.com and http://www.ebay.com.

    4. Re:the whole story needs a disclaimer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No kidding. $54 at ThinkGeek, $20 at Radio Shack. Hmmm. And ThinkGeek is as "forward thinking" as they'd like to think they are most of the time either. As you stated, this stuff has been around a lot longer than ThinkGeek has known about it. I suppose someone at ThinkGeek got out of the airport bar long enough to see this on a shelf somewhere and then jumped into the game... Free enterprise in action, backed up by a gullible "Golly, these guys know the neat stuff" group of sheep, er, followers!"

  2. Neat! by Vodalian · · Score: 1

    I'll take two! Too Bad they don't run well on carpet.

    1. Re:Neat! by TyZone · · Score: 1

      Oooo...I bet they'd go quite nicely on the big conference table in the staff-meeting room though. Start out hidden behind the projector, and when the VP's back is turned, make a speed run for the other end!

      --
      TyZone
  3. just an americanized Bit char-g by mesach · · Score: 1

    All it is a Bit Char-g with English instructions I'm sure

    --
    moo.
    1. Re:just an americanized Bit char-g by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Actually, they are a cheap knock-off of Bit Char-Gs which are sold as MicroSizers in the US. Take a look at http://tinyrc.com/forums for a comparison of the ZZs and BC-Gs, the ZZs are a poor quality knock-off.

  4. Thinkgeek cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    ThinkGeek sucks. I ordered this item from ThinkGeek and they never delivered.

    1. Re:Thinkgeek cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm... what the fuck is that yellow-brownish shit all over the back of his/her neck? Fuck, that looks nasty, like someone wiped their ass on his/her neck. What in the flying fuck?

    2. Re:Thinkgeek cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That brown stuff is called being an oriental. You know that is some pasty white nerd's girlfriend. He obviously lacks self esteem to get a white woman.

    3. Re:Thinkgeek cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This would be wrong if it wasn't so very right.

    4. Re:Thinkgeek cars? by matt_gaia · · Score: 1

      You know, I ordered that shirt, and it came in rather swiftly.

      Oh yeah, you weren't talking about the shirt, were you? Nevermind......

    5. Re:Thinkgeek cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like a Heroin addict. You see the nasty pipmles everywhere. I wouldn't fuck that chick with a stunt-dick. Sheesh...

    6. Re:Thinkgeek cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this modded Informative and not Funny?

      Yet more evidence that most moderators don't actually read comments.

    7. Re:Thinkgeek cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why was this modded 'informative?' Did the mod think he was serious? Did the mod even follow the link?

  5. Buy it.. by Frank+of+Earth · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:Buy it.. by fjordboy · · Score: 3, Informative

      The little cars are pretty cool, but for a few more bucks (ok, 50 more bucks) you can buy the mini desktop rover which is pretty cool, can be computer controlled, has tracks instead of wheels, can crawl over your keyboard and can even play lazer tag if you get a couple of them together.

    2. Re:Buy it.. by XorNand · · Score: 3, Informative

      I got one from www.rcmicroracers.com a couple of weeks ago. They're actually pretty cool to play with -- and a lot cheaper than the full size RC stuff I used to tinker with as a teen. But, sigh, I do miss those gasoline powered racers.

      --
      Entrepreneur : (noun), French for "unemployed"
    3. Re:Buy it.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh pffft... Those things are retarded compared to these cars.

      Believe it or not, these cars have a lot of technology in them. They use advanced capacitors for power storage.

      Plus they go really freaking fast and handle halfway decent.

      That tank thing is slow, requires a huge 9V battery, etc... crappy, dude.

    4. Re:Buy it.. by fjordboy · · Score: 2

      yeah...but lazer tag! And it can be computer controlled...though the zip cars look pretty cool.

  6. Bit Char-G for the USA by georgep77 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    These little cars are all the rage in Asia as Bit Char-G (bit charge) and Europe as Compact Char-G. Check out http://www.blackadderhall.com/bitchar-g/index.html for the scoop.

    Cheers,
    _GP_

    1. Re:Bit Char-G for the USA by cweber · · Score: 1

      Actually, Bit Char-G cars can be bought from US suppliers, too. My sons have had theirs for three months now. I don't remember the URL of the supplier, but it was in NY. Just search Google, that's where my oldest found them.

      Out here in CA my sons have been well ahead of the curve for a couple of months at least. But that's all you need when you're a teenager...
      Now with RadioShack carrying such cars everyone will jump on the bandwagon.

    2. Re:Bit Char-G for the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Radio Shacks are weak clones of Bit Char-Gs, they are not the US version; the US version is known as the MicroSizer and is of much better quality. TinyRC.com has them, as well as parts.

    3. Re:Bit Char-G for the USA by beerchan · · Score: 1

      Bit Char-Gs are called "RC MicroSizers" in the US (see microsizers.com). I have bought several from tinyrc.com - they also have a good forum, worth a look! Most afficianados prefer the BitChar-Gs/MicroSizers to the RadioShack "clones" which are lower quality, and the bodies just don't sit right.

  7. Just like the Thinkgeek cars? by brianosaurus · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean Radio Shack has been out of stock for months on their cars, too?

    Neat!

    --
    blog
    1. Re:Just like the Thinkgeek cars? by Tsian · · Score: 2

      Actually, if you are at a Radioshack in Canada, you just never get the stock and have to lie and *say* you are just sold out. Scary, but true!

  8. Don't get too excited... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I work at Radioshack, and we've had these in for about a week. We took apart a couple of the cars and mod kits, and they really aren't that impressive, you'd think that the 23,000 rpm engine would really make the car zoom, but it doesn't.

    The Fast and the Furious mods are pretty cool, though.

    1. Re:Don't get too excited... by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
      We took apart a couple of the cars and mod kits, and they really aren't that impressive, you'd think that the 23,000 rpm engine would really make the car zoom, but it doesn't.

      High revving and no torque...sounds like your average ricer. :-)

      --
      20 January 2017: the End of an Error.
    2. Re:Don't get too excited... by Arctic+Fox · · Score: 1

      Check these out.... http://www.riceboypage.com/ If only THOSE mods where available, then we could really rice these cars out.

    3. Re:Don't get too excited... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there is nothing keeping you from sticking on some "go-fast" parts (har-har).

      Maybe carve a huge wing from balsa or plastic. Stick on some groundFX.. boiy, sup-sup, you be slamming... word.

    4. Re:Don't get too excited... by dbrower · · Score: 2
      Elecric motors have largely flat torque curves vs rpm. You can convert rpm to more torque with gearing, with straight multiplation by ration. If you have more rpms available, you should also have shorter gears to take advantage of them. The 'rice' mistake is in not adjusting the gearing at the same time.

      -dB

      --
      "It if was easy to do, we'd find someone cheaper than you to do it."
    5. Re:Don't get too excited... by Afrosheen · · Score: 2

      Uh, who said anything about torque? He said the engine doesn't really make the car 'zoom'. He didn't even mention the turbo kit and the high performance kits.

      These cars are only fair if the default Mustang beats the Honda, but the Honda with the turbo kit beats the Mustang. :)

    6. Re:Don't get too excited... by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2
      High revving and no torque...sounds like your average ricer. :-)

      ...Or your average F1 racing car engine.

  9. airports by fjordboy · · Score: 2

    My friend got one of these in an airport a while back and it freaking rocks. He can do all sorts of things with it, and it is totally customizable...you can even get different gears for it to do tricks and whatnot. This is awesome..I just got paid today (tech support *is* worth 8 bucks an hour I guess)...so I'm gonna try and pick one of these up on the way home! Woohoo!

    1. Re:airports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (tech support *is* worth 8 bucks an hour I guess)

      Jeebus, boy! I hope that's your first job... I was getting paid $15 for ISP tech support a few years sgo.

    2. Re:airports by fjordboy · · Score: 2

      yup...its a part time job..full time positions get 10-12. I'm just working a semester before I start college...however, I might be moving up in the world..I might become a "wireless installer" for the company which pays more (I hope).

      Its also a small ISP, so the call load isn't severe (occasionally I can go an hour or so with no calls).

  10. Good for anger management by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah! Now I can gat into a pocket-sized Road Rage!

  11. First requested option by fobbman · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hope that they offer really small Type-R stickers...

    1. Re:First requested option by joshuac · · Score: 3, Funny

      from the article

      The high octane NOS® Nitrous motor zooms along at 23,500 RPM and is only available in The Fast And The Furious Street Tuner Upgrade Kit

      I've always wondered where those civic lx "racers" have been getting their parts from...

      My apologies in advance for those few people out there who enjoy imports AND actually go to the work to make them go fast.

  12. Not New? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They've been for sale at the Discovery Stores in america for a while now, although they are hard to find due to their popularity. Check your local mall.

  13. Add for this by Rubbersoul · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Connon O'brian showed this on his show last night. It was kind of funny watching him pimp this stupid product ...

    --
    man .sig
    No manual entry for .sig.
  14. Re:first by Ectropy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Actually no, i had the lucky fortune on clicking reload at just the right second and saw my oppurtunity. I was so happy - could this day be the day i get the illoustrious first post? I was excited and my palms started sweating. Faster than I ever have moved the mouse or typed on the keyboard I posted the comment, the only place i slowed down was to wait 20 seconds before i can post. And I do not use a bot and will not sue a bot - because thats just not nice!

    --
    Kyle "DotCom" Lynch :: http://www.kylelynch.com
    ...I need some cheeze-its...
  15. Nice BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where is my dog robot that fecthes beer - bring me one of those.

  16. New business plan? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Buy lots of RC cars
    2. ???
    3. Profit!!!

  17. saw these in Irvine California last May by CresentCityRon · · Score: 2

    I saw these while on a business trip to Irvine for sale in the Spectrum.

    This is not big, new or interesting news. Blah!

  18. If you want one... by Gerry+Gleason · · Score: 2

    You will have to find it somewhere else. Their inventory seems to be slashdotted.

  19. Don't step on them! by Doppler00 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I saw someone playing with one of these type of RC cars in our cafeteria. They were driving it around annoying people. Unfortunately, it was so small that someone accidently stepped on it. Didn't work after that.

    1. Re:Don't step on them! by breon.halling · · Score: 1
      They were driving it around annoying people.

      (snip)

      ...someone accidently stepped on it.

      Are you sure it was an accident? ;)

      --
      "Yeah, well, Dracula called and he's coming over tonight for you and I said okay."
    2. Re:Don't step on them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a whore, Hemos. Why not just post a big advertisement for ThinkGeek and be honest about it?

    3. Re:Don't step on them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "Oh, did I bweak your widdle toy? I'm so... sowwwy..."

    4. Re:Don't step on them! by Cplus · · Score: 1

      Actually the cars on ThinkGeek are no longer available. Click the link yourself if you're not afraid that it might cause your soul to be sold. I would say that not selling the product in question erases all question of whoring.

      --
      "Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieve immortality." -- Dalai Lama
  20. Obligatory link to home page by fobbman · · Score: 2

    You can find the Zip Zaps website here, at least until it gets /.'ed.

  21. Kit Suggestions by Dr.+Transparent · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So where can I get the hydro/bass kit?

    I can just see my co-worker driving around the office thumping his kit car through my cube.

    Or how about the "hummer" kit so I can drive my car through the bath tub or a parking lot puddle?

    And we definitely need a neon underglow kit for those late night office parties.

    1. Re:Kit Suggestions by Heynow21 · · Score: 1

      I'd buy it if it came with a Hummer kit...

    2. Re:Kit Suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      And we definitely need a neon underglow kit for those late night office parties.


      Blue LED. :)

    3. Re:Kit Suggestions by Afrosheen · · Score: 2

      This one comes with a Hummer kit, but it may not be what you're looking for. ;)

  22. Axel gear ratios don't change horsepower by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 2

    ZipZap tools allow users to play with three different gear ratios to adjust the "horsepower"

    To be pedantic, a different gear will give you different axel torque. Higher torque usually gives you quicker acceleration, at a possible (not always) lowering of top speed - you essentially run out of RPM before the motor is maxed out. Since this has no transmission so no way of playing with different RPM bands, I bet it does lower top speed a bit.

    Horsepower is work per unit of time. A different gear ratio changes the work (effort) and the time in equal opposite amounts, horsepower remains constant.

    1. Re:Axel gear ratios don't change horsepower by phriedom · · Score: 2

      I think that the sentence is only missing a conjunction:

      "On the company's web site, ZipZap tools allow users to play with three different gear ratios and to adjust the "horsepower" and top speed through a "performance" booster kit"

      The booster kits include other engines, which do have different horsepowers. I don't imagine that the lower HP 10,000 RPM engine is very popular though.

      If I buy one, I'm going straight to the model shop to buy some paints for a flame job. Slapping a pre-made Fast and Furious body onto the same chassis that everyone uses isn't my idea of "custom." I should probably practice on some Hot Wheels first though, they are much cheaper.

      --
      Don't moderate flamebait as Troll. Know the difference or you will be Meta-moderated.
    2. Re:Axel gear ratios don't change horsepower by xswl0931 · · Score: 1

      If torque changes, horsepower changes. Horsepower = Torque x RPM / 5252

    3. Re:Axel gear ratios don't change horsepower by pyite · · Score: 1

      Your torque changes _at the axle_ depending on the gear ratio. This doesn't really change the torque or horsepower coming out of the motor (it's not an engine people). Torque and horsepower are functions of RPM for a given motor or engine.

      --

      "Nature doesn't care how smart you are. You can still be wrong." - Richard Feynman

    4. Re:Axel gear ratios don't change horsepower by xswl0931 · · Score: 1

      A motor is a motor. However, you are correct that it doesn't change the output from the engine, but it does change the output from the wheels. You can measure horsepower at the crank or at the wheels that's why on cars you see them differentiate between horsepower generated by the engine and horsepower that actually gets to the wheels.

  23. Just got a DUI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I allowed to drive one of these things?

  24. These have been out in Japan... by DragonMagic · · Score: 3

    These have been in Japan for a while, namely the brand "DigiQ" pocket RC cars.

    Some links:
    http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~muro/
    http:// www.takaratoys.co.jp/digiq/
    http://digiq.s12.xrea .com/

    They're about 600-900 yen each, or about $5-$8 US for the basic cars.

    --

    Human nature is the same everywhere; the modes only are different. -- Earl of Chesterfield
    1. Re:These have been out in Japan... by Sc00ter · · Score: 2
      Yah, but anyplace that sells them so you can get them in the use charge almost $60! ThinkGeek is $55

    2. Re:These have been out in Japan... by kurtz25 · · Score: 1

      Blarg, Digi-Qs are just cheap knock-offs of Bit Char-Gs. Digi-Qs are IR anyway, which is why they are so cheap. Real boys play with the proper Tomica Bit Char-G, which runs about 2600 yen (a little more than $20). I gots me four of them so I can amaze my friends and annoy my enemies. My girlfriend (Japanese) is embarrassed whenever I take them out to the bar with me, but if she can't handle having an infantile boyfriend, she should have thought about that a long time ago.

  25. Question.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they steerable? Or are they like those ones where it can only turn in reverse, and only one way? Or can it be steered left/right in both forward and reverse?

  26. 49MHz? by dattaway · · Score: 2

    Why are they using a radio frequency with a wavelength the size of a real car? Why not use a more efficient frequency in the microwave band?

    1. Re:49MHz? by fobbman · · Score: 2

      Not to worry. Someone will post the instructions on how they overclocked it to a higher frequency any day now.

    2. Re:49MHz? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Because 49 Mhz is the standard frequency for cheap RC stuff in the US. The electronics for 49Mhz are cheap and easy to build. Of course, the optimal antenna for it is probably a lot longer than the antenna these little cars have, but that can be compensated for to some extent with proper antenna loading coils.

      --
      I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
    3. Re:49MHz? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why do you think higher frequencies are more "efficient"?

      You sounds like a typical consumer lemming... "Wow, 2.4 Ghz, it must be better"... LOL

      As mentioned in another message, 49 Mhz (or thereabouts) is the standard toy RC radio frequency area.

    4. Re:49MHz? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...because low frequency 49MHz receivers need bigger antennas than high-frequency 2.4GHz ones. Antenna length is proportional to wavelength, and inversely proportional to frequency. Dumbass.

  27. In the North? by stefiroth · · Score: 1

    These look amazing,
    but are they coming to Canada?
    Radioshack doesn't have shipping info, although I did email someone there.

    --
    Sig: "Examine the road over which the fault has passed"
    1. Re:In the North? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I picked one up at the Flying J truckstop outside of London, Ont. for $29CD

    2. Re:In the North? by Lazyhound · · Score: 1

      These look amazing, but are they coming to Canada? I saw them in Vancouver a couple weeks ago. It was only a mall kiosk, though, so they may have been imported. Didn't really pay much attention at the time...

  28. Yes, but ThinkGeek are part of OSDN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which means that they'll be around for a couple of months at most before plunging down the toilet.

  29. Almost the same . . . by JustAnotherReader · · Score: 5, Informative
    Kinda like the Thinkgeek cars.

    Only Much Much cheaper.

    1. Re:Almost the same . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tomy Bit Char-G are the only micro RC cars worth having.

      The IR controlled cars at ThinkGeek, like most things they sell, are complete shit and any geek worthy of the name would know better. God only knows in what slave-labor Asian backwater Radio Shack found their knock-off.

    2. Re:Almost the same . . . by windex · · Score: 1

      Kyosho Mini-Z racers 0wn j00.

    3. Re:Almost the same . . . by nobodyman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, and it's funny that the this post was ostensibly to report on ZipZaps, yet the editor posted no link to the zipzaps site and instead posted a link to the page where you could by the ThinkGeek cars.

    4. Re:Almost the same . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At twice the size and six times the cost...

    5. Re:Almost the same . . . by lburdet · · Score: 1
      and IMHO much much nicer.

      TG's cars look like they're a 4-yr. old's toy, not an RC.

  30. Not very fast ... but still pretty neat. by Whispers_in_the_dark · · Score: 2, Informative

    Fastest combination I got from the website was 411 Feet Per Minute. 411 * 60 = 24660 Feet Per Hour or 4.67 Miles Per Hour -- not much faster than walking speed (how fast do they really need to go anyway). Who cares though... I still think they're nifty!

    1. Re:Not very fast ... but still pretty neat. by cweber · · Score: 1

      That's pretty much how fast they go. My sons' Bit Char-G cars might be a bit faster,actually.
      Anyway, given the size of the cars, it still looks fast enough when you see them whizz across the floor.

      You got to keep in mind that the 'motor' is actually a modified pager vibrator, at least in the Bit Car-G models. Not much power there! But a neat adaptation of technology that was intended for a very different purpose.

    2. Re:Not very fast ... but still pretty neat. by pyite · · Score: 1

      You got to keep in mind that a "pager vibrator" is actually a modified motor. Pager vibrators are tiny motors with weights (think cam lobes) on them. The motor is then way off balance when it spins and vibrates the whole thing.

      --

      "Nature doesn't care how smart you are. You can still be wrong." - Richard Feynman

  31. Lots of 'em by Mu*puppy · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I've been seeing things like this for many months now. However, it's the options on this one that sets it a bit apart, customizations of motors, etc. Wish it could be without all the damn 'entertainment branding' tho.

    Still, in my mind, a car just isn't cool as a pocket tank. Oh yeah, time to mod one of these puppies for Warhammer 40K...

    "I'm not really a sysadmin, I just play one at work..."

    --
    There's no wrong way, to eat a Rhesus...
  32. NO BUY THIS!! IT'S 2X MORE, 2X SLOWER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stink Geek Cars

    Disclaimer: Battery charge lasts 10 seconds. Hubcabs not included!

  33. My dog will love it! by sporadic · · Score: 1

    I'm going to buy one and strap a doggie cookie to the roof, and have my pup chase it. This will save me tons of time spent in walking her every day. Hope the car is strong enough to stand up to repeated dog bites.

    sporadic

    1. Re:My dog will love it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't need a cookie. My gf's dog snarfed my BitCharG Evo into his mouth and took off with it, with very little provocation. Fortunately, only he only cracked the windshield a bit.

  34. if you want a real rc car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pick up an hpi racing super nitro and upgrade the engine to a 3.5cc engine. if you get a good one you can get about 2.8hp and 44,200 rpm. of course, you'll have to pick up a lot more parts to get it runnin really well but, this is not really a good starting point. you can spend probably under 200 bucks and get a much better car. www.towerhobbies.com

  35. Hobbiest solves penis size insecurity problem. by raehl · · Score: 3, Funny

    While on a recent trip to Radio Shack, longtime automotive hobbiest Grant Holman found a solution to a longtime problem.

    "I just never felt it was big enough," explained Grant. "I've tried everything possible to compensate - tried extreme hobbies, got on steroids and worked out, and drove only the biggest, fastest cars. But it seemed that the bigger the compensation I tried, the smaller my pecker felt."

    But after seeing the new ZipZap pocket sized RC cars, Grant's problems were solved. "I realized that I'd been looking at this all wrong. Bigger wasn't the answer. These cars are so small and so fun, I feel a lot better about my pecker's potential."

    Eunice Abrahms, Grant's girlfriend, concured. "Ever since he bought his first ZipZap my sexual satisfaction has increased immensely," she added while trying out various models at the store. "Grant even lets me help pick which one we get next," she said. "You can hold the really powerful ones in your hand and run the motor and they really shake! Those are my favorite."

    1. Re:Hobbiest solves penis size insecurity problem. by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 2
      Better watch out for the powerful Penis Enhancement Lobby


      (bastard onion doens't have it in their archives, and neither google nor the wayback machine have caches of it0

  36. Ho by Drath · · Score: 1

    I saw a bit on conan obrien the other day where he did a commercial for these things, and then they zoomed on some girl in the audience and she said "And I thought I was a prostitute!" and walked out.

    1. Re:Ho by Rubbersoul · · Score: 1

      "...and she said "And I thought I was a prostitute!"..."

      Actualy she said and I thought I was a whore, but you were close :)

      --
      man .sig
      No manual entry for .sig.
    2. Re:Ho by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      NBC is really making a push to whore themselves. Conan has had to do other live promotions before and is always able to express how cheesy the whole thing is.

  37. So... by radiashun · · Score: 1

    when am I gonna see a shriner rolling around in one of these things? Better yet, how many circus clowns can fit in one?

  38. ThinkGeek Sold Out by rnd() · · Score: 2

    I guess the obligatory disclosure worked: ThinkGeek is already sold out!

    --

    Amazing magic tricks

  39. Not impressed. by gmhowell · · Score: 2

    A 16,000 RPM motor just isn't that much. I remember many 540 type motors pulling more RPM's about 15 years ago. I'm sure they're over 30k these days. In addition, there are plenty of gas powered engines that go well over 16k.

    --
    Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
    1. Re:Not impressed. by joshuac · · Score: 2

      ---snip
      years ago. I'm sure they're over 30k these days. In addition, there are plenty of gas powered engines that go well over 16k.
      ---snip

      Not many of gas powered engines of any RPM this small...even most model airplane engines would be nearly the size of the entire car.

    2. Re:Not impressed. by JesseL · · Score: 2

      Ever seen a Cox Teedee .010? These little suckers can hit 30K rpm and I'm sure they're smaller than this car ( that picture includes the gas tank).

      --
      "Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!"
    3. Re:Not impressed. by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2
      It's not just the RPM, but the amount of torque it can produce (in this case, these little motors won't be putting out that much).

      I'm pretty sure your average (standard 27(?) turn \) 540 is about 18,000rpm. The amount of power they produce won't have changed much since they're a regulatored stock motor, they will be pretty similar to 15 years ago.

      Todays modified 540s can range from anywhere between 20,000 and 40,000rpm. The expensive brushless motors will go even higher (these RPMs are only based on a standard 6 cell battery, more cell will give you more RPM).

      As for gas, they aren't that great as they're made out to be IHMO, electric can go much faster (1:10th scale cars at average speeds of 180km/h when loaded with many cells). The only major advantage of gas are longer runtimes, and the ease of just fillin'er up. They're also cheaper if you want speed.

      Of cource, even if you could fit a 9 turn single (lower winds = less resistance = faster motor) into one of these wee things, you run into another problem: Getting traction ;) It would be like having a top-fuel dragster engine in a Mini Cooper.

    4. Re:Not impressed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude, that engine is bigger than the whole car...

    5. Re:Not impressed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      man.. get a grip.

      Those engines (540 and all gas engines) are way bigger than these whole cars.

    6. Re:Not impressed. by gmhowell · · Score: 2

      I was actually referring to motorcycle and F1 motors. I'm not sure why the author thought we should be impressed with RPMs. FWIW, given the amount of mass that has to change direction, I'm far MORE impressed with 2 liter engines that hit 18000 RPM.

      I was thinking of the modified motors WRT the 540's. My bad.

      Haven't seen a top fuel engine in a mini cooper, but I have seen a 454 in a Nash Met.

      --
      Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
    7. Re:Not impressed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fastest motor available for this scale is 38,000RPM. Comparison to a 540 is insane, as that is a 1/10 scale powerplant vs. a ~1/64 powerplant. These run on pager motors! See http://tinyrc.com/forums for the scoop! ;)

    8. Re:Not impressed. by joshuac · · Score: 2

      the Cox Teedee .010 is indeed a small internal combustion engine (the smallest ever mass-produced according to a quick google search) and appears to no longer be in production.

      The ThinkGeek cars are 5cm long, and the tee dee looks at least that long from your picture. The thinkgeek cars, in addition, are larger than the remote control cars the article is about. That engine wouldn't fit, even without the gas tank.

      I doubt you are going to be able to find any 30,000rpm piston engines that would fit in these cars.

  40. Ni-MHuh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the thinkgeek page:
    * Dual Ni-MH batteries allows a 15-min run time w/ a 10-min charge
    ...
    ...
    * 4x AA batteries required (not included). NiMH cannot be used.

    Whats that mean?

    1. Re:Ni-MHuh? by TyZone · · Score: 1
      The car has nickle metal hydride batteries (probably some special size) that can be recharged in about 10 minutes, which will then run the car for about 15 minutes. The remote control needs 4 size AA batteries, preferably the alkaline kind.

      They say that nickle metal hydride AA batteries cannot be use as replacements for the AA batteries because "real" AA batteries are 1.5 volts each and the rechargable nickle metal hydride AAs are only 1.2 volts. The remote control must *really* want 6 volts to work right. Or at least, that's what they want you to believe.

      --
      TyZone
  41. Re:first by spoco2 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    And one would have to say... 'Who gives a f*cking shit about first posting?'

    For god's sake, there's hell of a lot of things more worthy things to get excited about... and posting 'first' on a website such as this is not one of them... god damn...

    And the other guy to get angry over it... f*cking hell... get a damn life people... get a life...

  42. They sound pretty customizable... by x136 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...but where's the option to install a bunch of subwoofers that rattle the trunk lid, making the stereo sound like crap? And how about coffee can sized exhaust tips that make the engine sound like a bicycle with playing cards in the spokes?

    Stickers are essential, too. How else can you show off your Ford Escort Evolution IV or your Chevy Beretta Type R?

    --
    SIGFEH
    1. Re:They sound pretty customizable... by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 1

      Don't forget about the HUGE 'racing' fin...

      Because your Honda Accord is in danger of flipping over if you drive too fast, just like them Formula 1 racecars!

      --
      "Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
    2. Re:They sound pretty customizable... by beerchan · · Score: 1

      LOL - already done, check out these coffee cans!: http://tinyrc.com/gallery/contest/abc !!

  43. Re:Buy it... or NOT by legLess · · Score: 2
    Sadly, RadioShack's site is IE-only. Every page I try to hit with Mozilla, including the bloody home page, generates a "The page cannot be displayed" error, with no other information. The query string contains this gem:
    ErrSource=Microsoft+VBScript+runtime+error
    Dumb fucks. I would have ordered a handful of these - they look pretty cool.
    --
    This isn't as much "normalization" as it is "don't take so many drugs when you're designing tables."
  44. What high octane NOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hello

    This is just a big scam ;-) - this is not a RC car
    running on a gasoline engine. Hence now way you can boost it with turbo, NOS etc.. It's just like
    the Turbo Hoover - I would love to see a turbo boosted Hoover but I think that will never become true.

    Just my two cent tip

  45. Re:Buy it... or NOT by SquadBoy · · Score: 1

    Odd what version of Mozilla are you using and what OS. I'm hitting it with Moz on Windows 2000 (have to at work and stuff) just fine.

    --

    Cypherpunks: Civil Liberty Through Complex Mathematics. Those who live by the sword die by the arrow.
  46. 16,000 RPM motor!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sweet!

    Anybody know how to get this working in a real full-size car? That shit would FLY! Maybe there's an adaptor available?

    1. Re:16,000 RPM motor!! by nelsonen · · Score: 2, Informative

      Now about 17,000 RPM???

      http://www.hondaf1.com/english/info/engine.htm

      There is even a link to find out what it sounds like on a dyno.

  47. can't resist unnatural urges..... by Ser\/o · · Score: 1

    1. Make Tiny RC car

    2. Market through Radio Shack

    3. ????????

    4. Profit!!!!!

    --
    -Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
    1. Re:can't resist unnatural urges..... by cr@ckwhore · · Score: 2

      3. Advertise on Slashdot

      --
      Skiers and Riders -- http://www.snowjournal.com
    2. Re:can't resist unnatural urges..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're making up for the stupidest idea ever, the CueCat. So stupid, I have three. Cost, $0.00.

  48. Re:Buy it... or NOT by bughunter · · Score: 2
    Gee - I loaded it using Netscape 4.7-something...

    While I don't necessarily disagree with your evaluation of their collective intelligence, you haven't quite justified your use of profanity.

    --
    I can see the fnords!
  49. For those too lazy.... by dirkdidit · · Score: 1

    to look the product up at RadioShack.com, here is a direct link to the Micro RC Porsche 911 Car. Product No. 60-7001

    For only $20, I think it'd be a fun toy for any geek, girl or boy.

  50. That age old dilemma by Nathdot · · Score: 5, Funny

    In a press conference Wednesday, Radio Shack introduced the ZipZap line of miniature RC cars. Each is based upon real-life roadster, and can be tricked out with body kits and other accessories. Customers also have the option of upgrading and tweaking the gear ratios to give their car an extra boost.

    So you can fit out your Porsche 911 RC with a spoiler, super charger, nitros, chrome alloy mag wheels, cool purple fog downlights, tinted windows, a "SPEEED DEEEMON" windscreen decal, and tiny little "extra large" beverage holders and it will still be defeated by a carpet with only a moderate shag-pile rating.

    Pffft! :)

    1. Re:That age old dilemma by Osty · · Score: 2, Informative

      So you can fit out your Porsche 911 RC with a spoiler, super charger, nitros, chrome alloy mag wheels, cool purple fog downlights, tinted windows, a "SPEEED DEEEMON" windscreen decal, and tiny little "extra large" beverage holders and it will still be defeated by a carpet with only a moderate shag-pile rating.

      Because anyone who would do that to the actual thing deserves to be drawn and quartered.


      Oh, yeah, and these cars aren't roadsters. In fact, there's not even a single roadster in the bunch. Not your quote, of course, but that of the article. Just pointing it out. To claim they have roadsters, they would need cars like the Boxster, Z3 series or M roadster (hrm, it's in the name!), Audi TT, Honda S2000, or even a Miata. But a 911 is not a roadster (the Turbo is only available as a coupe, but the 996 cab is considered a 911, so technically the 911 is available as coupe or cabriolet), nor is a Mustang Cobra (coupe), Honda Civic (coupe), nor a PT Cruiser (not sure what the heck that is -- sport compact utility vehicle? then again, it's just a Neon frame with a fancy body shell, so maybe it's a compact sedan?). Silly journalists don't know their car terms.

  51. Hey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is anyone working on a Linux port?

  52. bleh by Harold+Kellogg · · Score: 1

    www.teamassociated.com and www.teamlosi.com for real RC cars not gay ass radioshack shit

    1. Re:bleh by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Hey! Those are pretty snazzy! Can I get one of those things for $20?

      Didn't think so. Back in your hole, trollboy.

      --
      Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
  53. Six way controller? by Whispers_in_the_dark · · Score: 2

    From the linked article:

    The Starter Kit for each ZipZaps model comes complete with a stock chassis, "performance" motor, 12:1 gearing, factory tires, factory wheels, custom rims, realistic body shell, owner's manual, a collectable trading card, and a six-way controller/charger with removable wrist strap.

    Okay, I see forward/reverse and left/right. What're the other two ways or is it talking about something else?

    1. Re:Six way controller? by starling · · Score: 2

      On and off? Actually I'd bet it's fast and slow.

    2. Re:Six way controller? by GoogolPlexPlex · · Score: 1

      The six ways are:

      Forward straight, forward turning left, forward turning right, backwards straight, backwards turning left, backwards turning right. Think of the 7,8,9,1,2,3 keys on the numeric keypad. Obviously, it cannot go directly left or right like a crab, so it's not an 8-way controller.

    3. Re:Six way controller? by Quikah · · Score: 2

      on/off :P

      --
      Q.
    4. Re:Six way controller? by The+Salamander · · Score: 1

      On / Off ?

    5. Re:Six way controller? by Jac_no_k · · Score: 1

      I bought one the other day. It seems to have three speed forwards, three speed back, and different turning radiases. Also there is an advanced controller that let's you do all kinds of neat stuff like running the the left and right motor in two different directions.

      Too bad I bought mine for $70. But I guess I'm exclusive for a while with the Lancer EVO VII sliding around on my desk.

    6. Re:Six way controller? by The_dev0 · · Score: 1

      Yep, they can go up and down, but not side to side or back in time.

      --
      Never fight naked, unless you're in prison...
  54. Re:Buy it... or NOT by The+Turd+Report · · Score: 0

    I am using Moz 1.1 and it comes thru just fine.

  55. Re:Buy it... or NOT by Arctic+Fox · · Score: 1

    Mozilla 1.0 on FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE works just fine.

  56. Fast and Furious? by Cheyto · · Score: 1
    According to the site, these things move at 411 fpm, if the fastest motor and highest gear ratio is used. This is a whopping 4.67 mph.

    That being said, I'll still buy one.

  57. Anyone else remember Stompers? by DTC · · Score: 1

    Somewhat OT, but a quick googling turned up this page about the old customizable motorized toy cars from the 80's. I remember family christmas gatherings where uncles and cousins brought in their "Stomper Kits" (tackleboxes full of wheels, gears, chassis, and other bits) and we'd have Stomper races and "tractor pulls" (one relative built a small trailer that he could add weights to). They didn't have the fancy remote control mechanism, but they sure were fun to play with! Perhaps these new toys can add a little fun to our next X-mas gathering :)

    1. Re:Anyone else remember Stompers? by Dynedain · · Score: 2

      Yes! Those were awesome!

      Thaks for reminding me of the name. I dug one up in the yard about a year or so ago, well the chassis anyways. I had lost it in my childhood.....my bet is that it had been buried for about 16 years or so. It was in suprisingly good shape. I wanted to 'restore' it but I can't remember where I put it. When I was a kid I remember not caring about the shells for them. The important part was the chassis and the motor. I used to make roads over hills of dirt for them to climb.

      **sniff** oh the memories...

      --
      I'm out of my mind right now, but feel free to leave a message.....
    2. Re:Anyone else remember Stompers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, what a blast from the past. Thanks for posting that link. I had two Stopers (a brown truck and a red truck) and a Rough Rider, specifically, the brown Corvette.

    3. Re:Anyone else remember Stompers? by timeOday · · Score: 2
  58. Rotary Power by D_Nebuchadnezzar · · Score: 1

    Hum, I'll buy the RX-7 upgrade, then swap in a real rotary, the OS Wankel 0.303 cu in, 1.27 bhp(ps)/17,000 rpm, and 11.8 oz. a Power to weight ratio of 1:10 rivals the real RX-7 Type RZ. MMmmmm

  59. Re:Buy it... or NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    running mozilla 1.0 on "debian gnu/linux". it works.

  60. try 19,000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/020924/65/da96v.html

    The sound of F1 music!

    Racing cars have roared along the main straight at the fabled Indianapolis Motor Speedway since 1909. This year, history will be made as fans hear an engine exceeding 19,000 rpm along that historic straight for the first time during the weekend of the SAP United States Grand Prix. It isn't noise. The sound of a racing engine being pushed to its limit - that roar, that howl, that scream - is music to the ears. And BMW has composed a new symphony for those who attend this year's SAP United States Grand Prix.

    At the recent Italian Grand Prix, BMW became the first engine to ever to top the 19,000-rpm mark. True, other F1 engines have exceeded 19,000 rpm, but they have not lived long to tell the tale. That's more than three times the maximum rpm of most passenger-car engines and more than six times the rpm of a passenger-car engine cruising at highway speeds.

    Nineteen-thousand revolutions per minute means 9,500 ignitions per minute per cylinder. That translates to 158 ignitions per second for each cylinder, or one ignition every six-thousandths of a second. The shriek of V10 engines revving up past the 18,000-rpm mark is a glorious sound. Place it in an opera house like Monaco, where the engine note reverberates off the walls of the buildings, or down Indy's long front stretch, and the effect is even more magnificent.

    The BMW V10s in the Williams cars driven by 2000 Indianapolis 500 winner Juan Pablo Montoya and Ralf Schumacher both will rev more than 19,000 rpm in qualifying and perhaps in the race. BMW has tested its P82 specification engine sufficiently to allow it to turn 19,000 rpm in qualifying, and its engineers are in the process of testing the engine so that the magic 19,000-rpm mark can be used in the race, too.

    "Everything we develop is aimed at racing it and not just using it in qualifying," said BMW Motorsport Director Dr. Mario Theissen. "But we have a two- step release procedure. After the engine has successfully done 250 km (155 miles) on the dyno, more than once, and a successful (on- track) 250-km test, then it is released for qualifying. As soon as it has completed 400 km (250 miles), it will be released for a race. I cannot say today if we will manage to do this before Indy."

    BMW aimed to hit 19,000 rpm ever since it started designing the current engine.

    "You can only do this if the concept itself carries the potential," Theissen said. "So it was a clear target from the very beginning of the design phase of P82 that it had to be able to go up to 19,000, among other targets. As usual, we started with making the engine reliable, and only then did we start to increase power step by step, and this means to increase revs, and what we have achieved is the final step for P82."

    While BMW is the first to reach the 19,000-rpm plateau, other engine manufacturers are getting close. Mercedes-Benz's V10 is only about 100 to 150 rpm below the numbers being reached by BMW. Put together 20 sophisticated V10s - the entire lineup for this year's SAP United States Grand Prix - all singing to 18,000 rpm and above, and you have F1's wonderful sound of music.

    The symphony starts with the opening round of practice at 11 a.m. (EST) Friday and we will bring you information, live timing and photographs from the entire weekend.

  61. Small and fast? by carlmenezes · · Score: 0

    What's the battery life? It's not mentioned anywhere and I'm curious for how long you'd be able to play with these cars - 10? 15 mins?

    I think these things would need a "page" button too :)

    --
    Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
  62. It's "hobbyist" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -NT-

  63. $54.99!!!! by DrXym · · Score: 2

    Jeez, these things were on sale for $10 in Thailand the last time I visited. What a markup!

    1. Re:$54.99!!!! by beerchan · · Score: 1

      DrXym, there are many different brands, including a large number of *clones* which are a lot cheaper but awful quality. With these, you get what you pay for. A $10 clone will fall apart if it even works at all. A $40 MicroSizer will last, and can be upgraded unlike many of the clones. The Radio Shack Zip Zap is itself a clone, and is inferior to the BC-G/MicroSizer or Digi-Q.

    2. Re:$54.99!!!! by DrXym · · Score: 2

      Possibly they were a different brand, but they were Japanese in origin despite being on sale in Thailand, certainly not cheap knockoffs.

    3. Re:$54.99!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go on.. Just admit it. Now that the price is high you're sore because you spent your last $10 on a sex worker instead of the car.

  64. Advertising in Media ? by Monkelectric · · Score: 3, Insightful
    How is it radioshack is able to manipulate media outlets into carrying this "story" ?

    I saw a story on CNN about it as well! This is not news, this is advertising.

    --

    Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley

    1. Re:Advertising in Media ? by Puck3D · · Score: 1

      Yeah, saw these on Conan O'Brien last night.
      Radio Shack blackmailing media outlets?

  65. Data Center 500! by Nijika · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can't wait. Windows 2000 Pro CDs as obstacles.

    --
    Luck favors the prepared, darling.
  66. Re:Buy it... or NOT by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

    You probably need to feed their cookie monster.

  67. The only thing good about this by eclectro · · Score: 1


    is that other stores will now carry them so I don't have to spend my money at Radio Shack.

    --
    Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
  68. Oh Man by lsd4all · · Score: 1
    In a press conference Wednesday, Radio Shack introduced the ZipZap line of miniature RC cars..

    Oh great. I only needed one more reason to go to RS.

  69. They're everywhere! by Simulant · · Score: 1

    These are flooding the market now and there appear to be many different manufacturers using the same basic design. See the following link for a sample.

    http://www.sheldonshobbies.com/listing/tinycars. ht ml

    I've had a Z-car for a few months and my one year old daughter loves chasing it around the kitchen floor. A friend of mine bought a BIT CHAR-G for twice the price and we compared the two.

    Nearly identical car design. Z-car has a much faster gear ratio out of the box. My friend had to buy a gear mod to get the same speed. Z-car has a red led that lights up during radio reception which is nice. Bit Char-G has a stronger electromagnet for slightly better steering. Bit Char-G has a better radio & charger. My Z-Car doesn't fit into the charger very well. Have to hold it in place usually. both have about a 40 second charge time.

    Same range. Same amount of fun.

    We also test drove some of the infra-red/C cars with two motor steering (one for each wheel) instead of an electromagnet but found them to be hard to control.

  70. Re:Buy it... or NOT by Foresto · · Score: 1

    I get the same error with Internet Explorer. I suspect it's because I have persistent cookies disabled.

  71. Now who's the Dumbfuck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Works fine here, Mozilla1.1 & Windows 98.

    Reading the other posts, seems to be a problem on your system.

    Now who's the Dumbfuck?

  72. The check... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should I just write that check to you directly Taco and skip the formalities?

  73. Re:Buy it... or NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are you using, a .8 version of Mozilla?!? I tried it out, and the site works fine in both Mozilla 1.1 and Netscape 6.2.

  74. Bah, Humbug - Mini Z are more impressive :) by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sure the Tommy Bit Char-G chars are cuter, but I prefer a car that is faster and looks nicer, say, like my Dodge Viper ...
    http://www.kyosho.com/cars/kyod01x3.html

    "Under the hood":
    http://www.kyosho.com/cars/kyod01x1.html

    --

    "The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite."
    - Thomas Jefferson

    1. Re:Bah, Humbug - Mini Z are more impressive :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A servo to control the steering?????? WTF, isn't that a bit overkill. What's the turning radius 1/2" ?

    2. Re:Bah, Humbug - Mini Z are more impressive :) by beerchan · · Score: 1

      Well, the Mini-Z is 1/28th scale vs. 1/64 for the Bit Char-Gs/MicroSizers, so they aren't really comparable. However, you can fit a wireless cam in a Mini-Z! http://mini-zracer.com/parts/ !!

    3. Re:Bah, Humbug - Mini Z are more impressive :) by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

      > What's the turning radius 1/2" ?

      Actually less! You can do a donut "in place" but only because the Mini Z's have that much power/speed. Just not possible with the tinier cars.

  75. Re:Buy it... or NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem is that the site requires cookies. I got the same error until I allowed cookies. Deleting the cookies and blocking them cause the errors to reappear.

  76. in the old days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you had to push them around by hand and make a kinda vroooommm sound.

  77. Much Cooler: by chain · · Score: 1

    I think these are much cooler: http://www.sigmaautomotive.com/TechieMon/offroadbi ke.html (R/C controlled motorcycles with gyroscope technology so that they don't tip over) Anyone ever seen one of these in action? I want one ;)

    1. Re:Much Cooler: by chain · · Score: 1
  78. Sounds like... by Burning1 · · Score: 2

    ...you're the kind of guy who would get a kick out of (or is a fan of) Beaterz. : )

    And I agree, the modification community is way over the top. Spend that $25K on a used viper rather than a tricked out 02 civic.

    1. Re:Sounds like... by karb · · Score: 1
      Don't Vipers MSRP for about 90 odd k?

      Go with a corvette instead. It's fast and can actually turn, unlike most american cars ;)

      --

      Jack Valenti and the MPAA are to technology as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone

    2. Re:Sounds like... by iamblades · · Score: 1

      Vipers retail for around $70k, but you can get low mileage used ones for quite a bit cheaper.

      Also, Vipers can turn plenty well too. :)

      --
      Shit adds up at the bottom...
    3. Re:Sounds like... by xtal · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      You don't quite know the feeling of satisfaction you get when someone who has spent 3 times what you did on a car gets the doors blown off by your 15psi turbo honda with custom engine management. You'd be suprised by who's out there, wings and all. Of course, most of them are posers. But not all of them ;).

      Steve

      --
      ..don't panic
    4. Re:Sounds like... by joshuac · · Score: 2

      ---snip
      Of course, most of them are posers

      ---snip

      that is a tremendous understatement. Hundreds of cars with stickers and destroyed interiors for every 5 to 10 cars that have actually had any effort put into them (unless you count incorrect springs as being "worked on", then the ratio is slightly better). Of those 5 to 10 cars, maybe one of them is actually significantly faster than a higher end plain-vanilla stock car.

      I respect people who do work that hard on their imports, not so much just because they put effort into doing something well, but there are so many lame imitations all around, that they probably do not get the appreciation they deserve.

      I suspect that makes shutting down another car even more enjoyable, though.

    5. Re:Sounds like... by Insightfill · · Score: 1
      Agreed on the issue of posers. While there are probably quite a few fast, tricked out cars out there, there are many, many more that are "all show and no go." Check out Brian's Rice Boy Page for more (no link, look it up yourself).

      Honestly, when I was younger (pre-family) and had the money, I considered souping up something cheap, but two thoughts came to mind: 1) I didn't want to be associated with the posers, 2) I didn't want to be a ticket magnet. Face it: a car that "looks fast" is going to be pulled over more often for just doing 5 over than the stock Chevette (I had three of those). Better to be fast than look it, and the "farting" exhaust does _not_ add 20% more horsepower like it says on the box, unless we're talking about the horsepower that the shop-owner is going to buy with your money. All it does is make the police look twice.

      Re: being associated with posers. I went through motorcycle class, practiced, learned, got good, and then realized: all of the motorcycles in my neighborhood are either driven by unlicensed sixteen year-olds who never leave second gear, or "hogs" that have exhaust systems that would be considered illegal (loud) on a car. I realized that I would be lumped in with "them" everywhere I went. Did not continue riding.

      Now driving a Honda Insight (CVT). Goals change, and baseball cards in the spokes don't cut it anymore.

      I'm sorry; I'm done ranting now and am going to lie down somewhere.

    6. Re:Sounds like... by jcknox · · Score: 1

      Gee, you only spen $1500 on your car?

      Let's see:

      1992 Mustang 5.0 -- $3500 including:
      Rear gear, shifter & underdrives & exhaust work
      New cam and intake -- $1000

      $4500 for 250 rwhp.

      There is NO replacement for displacement.

      I love rice. It's delicious.

    7. Re:Sounds like... by xtal · · Score: 1

      Heh. Think 40mpg off boost. Try THAT in your mustang. You can commute AND have something that'll suprise the little go-getter in a v8. And nothing, but NOTHING beats the look on the face of someone who's been sleepered.

      Anyhow, to each their own, the effect is the same. Working on a Honda Prelude now. Not everyone has one, and that's part of the appeal. Money really isn't an issue. I could just go buy a vette, but messing with 4 cylinders is more fun. I'm sure your opinion varies.

      FWIW, you will get much more bang for the buck with a built B18C when power/weight are factored in. And 35-40mpg.

      Steve

      --
      ..don't panic
  79. Re:Buy it... or NOT by red_dragon · · Score: 2

    Using OmniWeb and its default User-Agent string, I get "Cannot Load Address -- This page redirects the browser back to itself". I have cookies enabled, too.

    Changed the User-Agent string to that of IE 5.2 (OS X), and it works. I lay the blame on the website's idiot coders.

    --
    In Soviet Russia, Jesus asks: "What Would You Do?"
  80. Re:Buy it... or NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm using Mozilla 1.1b on Linux... Works just fine.

    Actually, I've been going to the RS web site for a long time... I remember the Mozilla pre-1.0 worked fine too.

    "Morons, your train is leaving"

  81. 16,000 rpm? I give them 10 minutes by dbrower · · Score: 2
    You've heard the argument that mammals get about the same number of beats out of their hearts, so animals with fast heartbeats live shorter? I figure it's the same thing for motors in toys. At 16,000 rpm, these puppies ain't gonna last until the first set of batteries runs down.

    -dB

    --
    "It if was easy to do, we'd find someone cheaper than you to do it."
  82. Pocket-sized RC car... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    You know you are supporting the starvation of the children of 3rd world countries when you purchase anything from RadioShack.

    Q: Why did they call themselves "Radio Shack" ?
    A: Because back in the 40's, they experimented on wee little fluffy baby sea otters and sea lions to re-claim sunken torpedos the navy needed to re-use and in that same shack they broadcasted the anal rape of an 11 year-old boy and published it on RadioShack's official Corporate website (http://goatse.cx).

    Thankyou.

    Sincerily,
    Wendie Whitebread

  83. You can get these in Australia too... by B747SP · · Score: 1
    There is a guy here in Sydney, Australia who imports these and sells them online. Posts to aus.ads.forsale and aus.photo as 'DJ!' or 'Derek' from time to time.

    His web site is here. He has an excellent reputation, highly recommended.

    --
    I find your ideas intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
  84. fabulous...you don't even need.... by JimBobJoe · · Score: 2

    a driver's license to race these fun little cars!

    Disclaimer: You will however need to present, given that this is radio shack and all

    your name
    your address
    your blood type
    your birthday
    you SSN (SIN in Canada)
    and the serial number from your cue cat

  85. OH my GOD! by Vanguard(DC) · · Score: 0

    leave it to the ZIPzaps to include a Honda Civic in the line of cars...

    "...Ford SVT Mustang Cobra, Porsche 911 Turbo, Honda Civic or Chrysler PT Cruiser..."

    wow. that civic! cant get the $#@^!$ away from them... uhhg.

    --
    "I think, therefore I get paid."
  86. just imagine... by diesel66 · · Score: 1

    a beowulf cluster of th *whack!*

    --



    eleven plus two / twelve plus one
  87. If it's small enough to not be noticed..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....imagine what fun you can have with a small camera attached....

  88. if you hate r1corz by Raven42rac · · Score: 1
    --
    I hate sigs.
  89. YAPSRCC by rot26 · · Score: 2

    I have one of these. According to my friend who knows a lot more about this shit than I do (note: that is a point of pride for me) they are identical to the Tomy at about US$10 less.

    Atomic

    The controller/charger is kinda cheesy but since it probably won't work but a few days anyway I doubt if it matters.

    --



    To ensure perfect aim, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target
    1. Re:YAPSRCC by Dracos · · Score: 3, Informative

      You friend don't know much, then. ZipZaps and BitChar-G's are not identical. ZipZaps have a longer wheelbase and use a slightly different form factor motor, among other things.

      People have swapped the gears and axles from a Zip onto a Bit, though.

  90. microrccars.com by coffeedreg · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want to find out more about ZipZaps, DigiQ, iRacers, Bit Char-Gs, MiniZs, and a billion other micro rc cars, drop by microrccars.com and check out the forums.

    1. Re:microrccars.com by beerchan · · Score: 1

      ick, that place is very unfriendly and the mods are little kids with big egos! most people i know left those Forums and joined http://tinyrc.com/forums

  91. RadioShack Is Cheap Clone! Get the Original! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Radio Shack ZipZap is a cheap clone of the Original TOMY Bit Char-G, which was recently released in the US as the MicroSizer. You can get the REAL MicroSizers/Bit Char-Gs at: http://tinyrc.com/shop and then check out the Forums. TinyRC is the only place you can get the 38,000RPM motor too. ZipZaps are poor knock-offs, the bodies are awful, they sit way too high on the chassis and are very low detail vs. BC-Gs/MicroSizers. If you're looking for something bigger, try http://mini-zracer.com/shop - these are 1/28 scale cars w/ an amazing array of available upgrades.

  92. Only 2 channels -- that'll kill 'em in the market by ahooton · · Score: 1

    Watch out, read the fine print -- these things only come in two different frequencies, which means only two of them can race against each other at a time. That's going to kill them. I was thinking of buying one of these for everybody on my team and having some great races, but not now...

  93. Bit CharGers by Ronin+Jonin · · Score: 1

    These are just bad versions of Bit Chargers. Go look them up, they've been around in hawaii for a long time, and are pretty big in japan. note: Chargers not Racers, racers are the same size but require a triack.

    1. Re:Bit CharGers by beerchan · · Score: 1

      Agreed - the ZipZaps are very lame clones of Bit Char-Gs/MicroSizers. The body detail is terrible, they look those old AMC 4WD cars!

  94. don't customize them TOO much by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2
    or you'll surely attract car thieves.

    keep them stock looking and usually they won't get broken into.

    (don't laugh - tandy part #RS-14314, micro-vandal, blue w/mask is in next year's catalog.)

    --

    --
    "It is now safe to switch off your computer."
  95. Re:Buy it... or NOT by Eravau · · Score: 1

    That would be it. I had cookies off...no go. Turned cookies on...the web page magically appeared.

  96. Bought one after work. by FreakyGeeky · · Score: 2

    I bought one of these after work today at a nearby RS. I went looking for a 5V AC/DC converter, but had no luck. As I was leaving, two of the guys working there were talking about these. I figured I'd easily get $20 worth of fun out of it.

    I've run it for a couple hours already tonight, and it's been a blast. The recharge times are about a minute, and I've got a good 5-10 minutes from each charge.

    There's only one thing I don't like, and that's the wide turning radius. (Which is tight when moving in reverse.) Maybe one of their suspension upgrades would fix that? ;)

    I'm not sure how the batteries will hold up, I'll post again here in a few days and let you know.

  97. Radio Shack is just jumping on a bandwagon by Dracos · · Score: 4, Informative

    Micro R/C cars have been out in japan for at least 2 years. Ebay has facilitated their entry into the U.S. as early as last winter (as far as I can tell). More proof that Japan gets cool toys way before we do.

    If you want a wider range of customization, go for a Bit Char-G from Tomy, which have very recently been launched as R/C MicroSizers in the States (and also under different names in Australia and the U.K.). There are also numerous knockoffs of "bits" coming from China which are generally of lower quality. Hell, even Wal*Mart has a line on these things.

    I admit, I first saw micro r/c cars on ThinkGeek (which are called Digi-Q from Takara). After I finally decided to get a micro r/c car, I did some research:

    • Bits have the widest range of accessories (bodies, gears, motors, etc)
    • Bits have real steering, which uses a small magnet to move the front wheels.
    • Digi-Q's have 2 motors, where speed differetial between them steers the car
    • Bits look less cartoony than Digi-Q's (but still a little bit cartoony)
    • Digi-Q's are controlled by IR, not RF

    Therefore, I went with a bit. ZipZaps have a 16k rpm motor? So what: You can get 38k rpm motors for bits.

    One of the things going against all these toys in the U.S. is the body styles they produce, which are all Japanese. How many people outside of Japan know what a Nissan Skyline is? Tomy may be prepared, as you can see a Mach 5 and Mini Cooper scheduled for release soon. I want a Chevy SSR and a '69 GTO Judge (gotta be orange) personally.

    BUT, these things are temendous fun. There's a huge online community around the micro r/c hobby. Check out www.tinyrc.com, www.bitchar-g.co.uk and QFM Racing (click the right side of the page).

    1. Re:Radio Shack is just jumping on a bandwagon by Amarok.Org · · Score: 1, Troll
      ZipZaps have a 16k rpm motor? So what: You can get 38k rpm motors for bits.

      The ZZs are cheaper, *AND* you can use the Bit motors with them. Check out:

      http://www.tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?thread id=1207

      For what it's worth, I don't own either. Looks like the ZZ is at least a way to get more people interested/excited in the hobby, and the Bits provide a growth path if you want to get more serious about it.

      --
      -- "Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?"
    2. Re:Radio Shack is just jumping on a bandwagon by DustMagnet · · Score: 2
      One of the things going against all these toys in the U.S. is the body styles they produce, which are all Japanese.

      Out of the eight starter kits on the Radio Shack website, two Chryslers, two Fords, two Hondas, and two Porsches. There are three upgrade body kits, one kit is American, the other two are Japaneese.

      I want a yellow 2002 Civic Si Hatchback body, but I'm not holding my breath. If I want one, I'm to get one, I'm going to have to make it.

      --
      'SBEMAIL!' is better than a goat!!
  98. www.rcmicroracers.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just browsing, but I bought a few of this. Best site I've found is www.rcmicroracers.com, cheepest prices on the net for these cars. Very professional and you typically get your order within 2 to 7 days if you select ground shipment.

    This things are hot though, EVERYBODY is going to run out of them. First week of October they expect everybody to run out, prices to go up to $35-40 a car. RCMicroRacers has em for $29, you can't beat that. If you can wait 3 weeks for back ordered cars then don't worry, but if you want one find a site and order. There are a few on the net, but I highly recommend this one, they bought the most from the manufacturer next to toys-r-us who will be selling them for $35-40..

    cheers..
    WRXracer
    PS you can find me on Gadgeteer. I'm big on RC.

    1. Re:www.rcmicroracers.com by beerchan · · Score: 1

      $9.99 for a 2.6 motor?! You can get a 3.8 for $11 at tinyrc.com! http://tinyrc.com/shop/products.php?pid=2 and a 2.6 for $7!

    2. Re:www.rcmicroracers.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah right, until you notice they charge $4 for S&H when RCMicroRacers.com only charged $2! I emailed them with competitors pricing and they beat it by a couple more bucks!!! They are great!

  99. Re:Buy it... or NOT by Afrosheen · · Score: 2

    Hahaha, joke's on you, chump. I can see everything just fine with Konqueror 3.0.3. Time to upgrade, ye olde fashioned Slackware user.

  100. Re:Only 2 channels -- that'll kill 'em in the mark by beerchan · · Score: 1

    There are only two legal frequencies in the US. However, you can get Bit Char-Gs on 4 different freqs.

  101. Re:Buy it... or NOT by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 2

    Humm, no Mozilla, I guess the don't want to support AOL user either. Idiots

    --
    "Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
  102. Mini Racer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I purchased a mini RC car at a dallas gun show for $10. Mine doesn't seem to have a chemical battery, but it only runs 1 1/2 minutes with 1 minute charge. I think it uses a large capaciter to hold the charge. Anyways its alot of fun for a geek like me.

  103. Mozilla Works Fine by Avenel · · Score: 1

    Under WinXP at least...

  104. Char-G in Sweden? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So far, I've found it in an online shop at the humble price of SEK 650 which equals USD 65...

    Sorry, no sale.

  105. Hmmmm by Chris+Johnson · · Score: 2
    How heavy are these? With the little two-motor, no-steering ones, you could make little tiny blimps or something. Build propellers instead of the wheels. Granted, you can buy radio controlled blimps, but maybe not quite that teeny :)

    Hey! Boats! :D And best of all, the range of the transmitter is unfortunately not much bigger than your tub anyway, so.. ;)

  106. Re:Buy it... or NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    As a current employee of RadioShack I can't tell you how many times I've been told that.

    Little things like, while the search field for the Battery Finder has been working for at least a year, the point&click method has been defunct this entire time. Why are the cheapo KVM switches in the Networking section?

    ::sigh::

  107. Re:16,000 rpm? I give them 10 minutes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I went out and got one tonight. They are kinda fun. Makes me think of the Stomper 4x4 another guy mentioned. Anyway, they are pretty danm good about batter use. They last about 10 min, but you dont (couldnt if you tried because of their size) put batteries in them. They seem to have a cap under the logic board. You put the car on top of the remote control and let it chage for about 40-50 seconds. The light on the remote turns green and you pop the little 1+" car off and letter rip. Not the fastest but still a bit of fun. I think these heavy plastic "mini's" radio shack is sell will take a better beating from the kids than the other cars you can get. ^_^

  108. They look familiar... by DraconPern · · Score: 1

    Are these the same ones they were selling at AX2002?

  109. Toyeast.com by svzurich · · Score: 1

    Go to http://www.toyeast.com to order the real thing: Bit Char-G Racers by Tomy. They also sell Takara's Digi-Q. They are based in Hong Kong and can get really good prices on the real thing.

    The Bit Char-Gs have lots of parts to upgrade (called Hop up parts) and there is a Toyota Trueno (Celica) set that comes with 3 different hardnesses of tires, 3 different suspensions, 4 different axel sets, two different bodies, 3 different gear ratios, the 2.2 rated (2200 rpm) motor, and some racing cones. It is a really good deal and runs at 27mhz.

    I also have the Xanavi Hiroto GT-R special that has a 2.6 motor and uses 57mhz. It has a "cripple capacitor" in it, but you can go to http://www.ausmicro.com and search there for details on which cars have that and how to remove it. Once the capacitor is removed, the range dramatically improves.

    Also look into the Booster cars. They have clear bodies that can be painted, have a motor that has a "stutter" setting for slower speeds (and longer battery life), and a booster speed that is normal. Motors are 2.2 and there is one car per each of the 4 frequencies (57mhz, 45mhz, 35mhz, and 27mhz). They use a special remote that can select any of the 4 freqs, but it has a terrible range. The remote for the boosters is sold separately and has a setting for use with future toy releases (tanks and subs are rumored).

    The Bit Char-G advertise that they charge in 45secs on the controller (about right, sometimes longer), then race for 2 minutes (I get closer to 5 minutes). They are digital controlled, meaning no proportional speed or steering (but the booster cars' stutter speed gives effectively 2 speeds to cycle between). If you want that, look to the Takare Digi-Qs.

    The Digi-Qs are a bit smaller, a lot faster, and suffer from a lag when sending signals. They run on infrared signals (the Bits are radio controlled), and have two motors (one per rear wheel). The cars mimic the real ones in performance, but a special controller (Digi Propo) can override the computer chips to change speed, breaking, steering, and acceleration. These cars cannot be modified as much as the Bits, but are awesome. They take around 10 minutes to charge and race for about 15 minutes.

    Both cars types are not for carpet racing, and do require a bit of maintenance. Be prepared to play with the steering magnet on the Bits, clean out axels, and other odds and ends. Then hit the net to see the modified semis, monster trucks, and more!

  110. So THAT'S what a "slashdotting" is by Derek-ausmicro.com · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hi everyone. I'm COMPLETELY wet behind the ears with regards slashdot - hell, it took me almost 15mins to work out how to post this first ever reply - DOH! The only times I've really taken any notice of it was when my old *nix-lovin' flatmate used to try to highlight the errors in my Microsoft-lovin' ways.

    I was having a pretty quiet Friday here in Sydney. I was at work, idling browsing the 'Net (I am pretty safe saying that in here as my boss even struggles to use MS Word spellcheck without online help) and I saw a post on our ausmicro.com forums mentioning micro RC cars on slashdot.

    Next thing I know, our poor little web server is straining under the load and we're getting emails from all over the place. Certainly NOT how I expected another quiet Friday at work to pan out :-o We moved about half of our average monthly traffic in ONE DAY. I phoned my old flatmate tonig

    Yes, Aaron and I (aka ausmicro.com) do import micro and mini radio control equipment into Oz. It all started when we both wanted a Bit Char-G and throught that the US-based vendors were a little on the exxy side (with the dodgy USD-AUD exchange rate et al). Aaron (who is in Canberra) and I (in Sydney) are good friends and both of us had a lot of business/market experience business in Japan and SE Asia. So the phone calls and emails started.

    We got our first cars in and we were hooked. Colleagues at our workplaces wanted them and so the demand grew. We started ausmicro to see if anyone else wanted to join us for a group buy (save on freight). Suddenly it became much bigger than we'd ever hoped for.

    Everyone's gotta have a vice/hobby and RC is one of ours. Running the website (which gives us great mod ideas!) is the most expensive part of the hobby. I know it sounds like tired rhetoric, but ausmicro.com is about a sense of community - not profit. We load up the landed/dutied cost of the items we import by 5%, which goes towards subsidising the site running costs (transferring ~3GB of traffic per month doesn't come cheaply) Put it this way, after 6mths we're still well and truly in the red. And we expect to stay that way for another 12-18mths. But we're still loving it! ;-)

    In the last couple of months we've jumped aboard the Mini-Z craze (1:24 scale vs 1:70 scale). These are GREAT fun, too. I can highly recommend http://www.minizworld.com as a good place to start if you're interested in learning about them.

    Apologies if this post sounds cheesy/spammy. I assure you - it wasn't intended to be. I'll go as far to say as we're NOT the cheapest place to buy micro RC gear from. We DO NOT have a big range. Even our customer service SUCKS ;-) After all, Aaron and I both have "day jobs" to bay the bills. This is just a hobby! But if want to get into the craze and need help in sourcing a car or two (particularly for Aussies), we can help. We'd just like to see more folks taking up the hobby and growing the racing scene.

    Thanks again to those who contacted us (and all of the other suppliers/fansites mentioned in this story) for your interest in the hobby. If you have any questions feel free to email us (please be patient - the mail server is currently undergoing intensive care after its heart attack), or ask the community at http://www.ausmicro.com/forum

    Cheers - and have a top weekend

    Derek (aka DJ!)
    derek@ausmicro.com

  111. Just got one last weekend.... by docbrown42 · · Score: 1

    Although not that brand, it's pretty similar. I've got pictures on my website of my cat playing with mine (she didn't know what to make of it, but she was curious) here and a description here

    The car is pretty cool (even though it was more expensive than the Radio shack model), and it runs on carpet pretty well. On our lamianate floor in the kitchen, it's pretty quick and nimble. I've even been able to get it to do a "bootlegger reverse" a couple of times.

    I have to admit, the batteries last a lot longer in this toy than I expected. I've probably recharged the car about 20-30 times, and the batteries are still going strong (it takes about a minute to recharge the car, and it runs for 5-10 minutes from there).

    --
    Ed Wedig
    Graphic design services
    docbrown.net
  112. Takara Digi Q is WAY faster (and more fun!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The Takara Digi Q remote control cars are great fun! With the optional Digi Controler Special, these amazing little cars offer adjustable acceleration, top speed, braking, and steering. They're WAY faster than even the most tricked-out BitCharG.

    A good site to read about a recent comparision of these two remote control cars is: Micro RC Cars

    I had great service from Hobby Link Japan when I recently bought a Takara Digi Q that was on clearance for half price! Another popular website that sells these and which I've read good things about is Cosmo Games.

    Happy racing!

  113. Had two for a while... by AIM-9X · · Score: 1

    Microsizers have been out a short time, and I've got two. They are available with various upgrade parts, the batteries charge in 45 seconds, and they're great for chasing housepets.

    --
    ***
    This is my Sig. This is my Glock, this is my Walther, and this is my Beretta.
    Any questions?
  114. EVEN a Miata??? by Dirk+Pitt · · Score: 2
    they would need...even a Miata
    Hey now! Don't casually lump in the car that reintroduced the roadster as a viable car again in the 90's.

    Seriously, the Miata is generally considered a classic, C&D consistently puts it in their top 10, and I believe one of the car rags just put it into the top 10 cars of all time list, a weighted list that included value in its measures, putting the car right next to such lofty craft as the Ferrari Modena. And despite not having the supercar-horsepower of the other vehicles you mentioned, it is an incredibly performing roadster. For some reason, too, much of the public perceives it to be a cheap car, but mind that it tops out at ~$27k now. IMHO, it's the car that Austin Healey wishes they could've engineered (used to drive a 3000).

    Of course, if you can afford German, by all means....I'd highly recommend it ;-).

    DP -- former Miata driver

    1. Re:EVEN a Miata??? by Osty · · Score: 2

      Hey now! Don't casually lump in the car that reintroduced the roadster as a viable car again in the 90's.

      Dammit, you caught me!


      Seriously, the Miata is generally considered a classic, C&D consistently puts it in their top 10, and I believe one of the car rags just put it into the top 10 cars of all time list, a weighted list that included value in its measures, putting the car right next to such lofty craft as the Ferrari Modena. And despite not having the supercar-horsepower of the other vehicles you mentioned, it is an incredibly performing roadster. For some reason, too, much of the public perceives it to be a cheap car, but mind that it tops out at ~$27k now. IMHO, it's the car that Austin Healey wishes they could've engineered (used to drive a 3000).

      I agree that the Miata is an awesome little car. How many other cars can claim (almost) perfect 50/50 front/back weight distribution? The Boxster can't even claim that, and it's got mid-engine placement going for it. As well, roadsters aren't all about big horsepower and quick quarter mile times. They're about having fun, and if you have fun in a Miata, then great. I don't like some of the styling, though, which means I really never considered it when I was looking to buy a roadster.


      Of course, if you can afford German, by all means....I'd highly recommend it ;-).

      Can. Did. Enjoy it very, very much. I just need to make the time to get out to the track more often.

    2. Re:EVEN a Miata??? by Dirk+Pitt · · Score: 2
      Checked your website--dearly, DEARLY love that car. Boxster's the ultimate evolution of the roadster, in my opin. Great color, too--roadster's should be flashy, methinks. Cheers!

  115. Score 5 funny? Pathetic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Watch out for meta-moderation...

  116. this is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have been able to get these (pocket sized RC cars) in Japantown, SanFrancisco for a very long time...

    Leave it to the Japanese to build the cool toys first...

    l8,
    AC

    1. Re:this is news? by Rolandami · · Score: 1

      True, this is news for some hicks on the east coast, like me. :) Now, I read the radio shacks are cheap knockoffs of the microracers. What are the best sites to buy microracers?

  117. Re:Buy it... or NOT by XO · · Score: 1

    I regularly hit radioshack.com with Mozilla. Sounds like your lizard is smoking crack, sir.

    Besides - isn't there a store somewhere near you?

    --
    "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  118. Re:Only 2 channels -- that'll kill 'em in the mark by ahooton · · Score: 1

    WRONG! There are bunch of legal freqs in the US, go to your favorite local hobby store and look over the RC radio gear. If there were only two legal freqs, it sure would be hard on all the 10+ car and plane races I have seen in the past...

  119. Stompers, Micro RC And Much More On This Site by Stomper+King · · Score: 1

    Hi, I just signed up for an account this morning and don't quite understand yet how to use this forum. I noticed yesterday a big jump in my page hits and they came from this site. I see my site was mentioned as it is a history page for the 1980 to current releases of the great Stomper 4X4 toys. I also have a page for the Micro RC cars, minature outboard motors and more. If anyone sees this message and figures the site would be interesting to your friends please post a message in the proper location so people can see it. The site address is www.stomper4x4.com and there are lots of link buttons at the bottom of the page. It's free to all with no pop-ups. Thanks for any help. Mick

    1. Re:Stompers, Micro RC And Much More On This Site by mesach · · Score: 1

      Stompers were my single most favorite toy as a child!!!

      welcome to the world of getting slashdotted.

      --
      moo.
  120. say what you want. by c24go · · Score: 1

    I just resigned from working at a RadioShack, and glad I did but I will say one thing, zipzaps are HOT sellers, sold out the day we got them, good bad or indifferent, they are selling fast and will be hard to get. I dont care about the performance or the car, just saying they will be a hot seller and already are.

  121. Last Post! by alpg · · Score: 1

    ... Linux und seine Programme sind damit so etwas wie ein real existierender
    Sozialismus der besseren Art ...
    -- Christian Seel in der Berliner Morgenpost v. 9.3.1997

    - this post brought to you by the Automated Last Post Generator...