same here, yesterday i installed Fedora 13 on my main machine, together with a lovely intel SSD. Havent had much time to try it all out, but so far it is really snappy.
i do have my ubuntu 9.10 partition intact, but if all goes well that will get blown away in a few weeks i imagine..
i'm wondering why nasa would fly four crewmembers on the 'just leave it docked to the iss' mission? Columbia's first flight was carried out by two astronauts, and lasted for 54 hours. I would think two astronauts would be able to fly it up to the ISS and dock, then maybe take a few days R&R, then be ferried down in only a single soyuz, instead of two...
also take into account that todays electronics/guidance is at least as advanced as columbia's stuff, this should be a cake-walk for two guys...
Man, i'd love to do that mission myself, much cooler then being packed in that space for two weeks with 7 people..
everytime this comes up i wonder about longevity/service intervals.
Space station modules are made with 5-10 years in zero-G/vacuum in mind, the shuttle is designed with a few weeks of zero-g/vacuum in mind, between service intervals. I realize that launch/re-entry is probably much more demanding then just sitting in orbit, but are the systems on the shuttle capable of running (you wouldnt want to completely shut everything off and simply have it be a dead container i think..) for years on end, with only limited in-orbit service?
Also, i wonder if for this kind of stuff, they would be able to quickly whip up some spacelab derivative, a big module inside the payload bay.. that would greatly increase the living/storage capacity of a permanently docked shuttle..
The payload bay could launch a bus into orbit. You could lift 2 Soyuz into orbit in the payload bay. The capabilities will never be matched in 50 years.
The payload to LEO capacity for the shuttle is 24 metric tons. The us-based Delta IV matches that, the Atlas V exceeds that. The russian Proton carries up to 21 tons, as does the European Ariane V and the US Titan. The proton is set to be replaced in the future by the Angara, who's A5 version can ligt 24.5 tons, the A7 is specced up to 40 tons...
Then there are up and comming private (falcon 9) and among others, chinese, replacements which lift between 25 to 32 tons.
The shuttle's one and only redeeming feature is down-mass, it can de-orbit significant amounts of stuff, however, retrieving a satelite is a pretty rare use-case, and you end up carrying all that extra structure and mass into space everytime you go up, so if you want to launch ~20 tons, there are MUCH better alternatives to the shuttle
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hmm, from reading that i see that noatime is much more important than journaling, but i think journaling is also pretty much small writes, so even a small number of bytes might be a large number of writes in the end..
And i think journaling is more relevant to overal lifespan then the kind of block level fragmentation that trim counteracts
i wiki'ed it to be sure, but my first guess when seeing layer 9 was right on the money
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i hardly do serious audio on my ubuntu running netbook, but on my main desktop, pulse-audio is just absolute CRAP. if i open a dvd image with VLC, it is pretty much a crapshoot wether the sound actually works, and even if i get some sounds, more then half the time the voice track is missing... or randomly crackles in and out of existence
Honestly, i hate pulse-audio worse then having to fuck around with wireless drivers for days back in ubuntu 6.06...
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By the way, it's not about the ability to use it, it's not wanting to be associated with conceded assholes like you.
So you roll your own OS right? I mean pretty much any OS has some conceded assholes as supporters, go meet the apple kool-aid drinkers, or off course the windows crowd..
seriously, how much is a 4 or 8gb usb drive these days? and it's not like you'd only use it for booting linux images (in which case i do recommend just burning the disc)
you could also just use that old 80gb usb disk that you threw into the back of the closet when your multi-tb file-server picked up media-storage duties..
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oh boo-hoo, what should i have said? my 'box' or 'boxen' or whatever?
Run on back to the BSD forums if all this talk about linux on 'rigs' is to hip for you..
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oooh nice, my intel X25-V should also have trim support..
the only thing i'm stuck on is the FS. AFAIK journalling on an SSD is considered BAD, but fedora doesnt want to install on anything but ext4 (with the image i downloaded anyway), so i think format as ext4, mount as ext2?
Really? What crime exactly? Name the statute. Oh wait, you can't - because at WORST it's a warranty violation, not even covered by any law federal or otherwise!
IANAA (not an american), but i was under the impression that breaking/disabling copy-protecting (which jailbreaking does, you can install otherwise paid-for apps for free) was a violation of the DMCA.
Not sure if this only applies to the original hack which made jailbreaking possible, or to any jailbreak done by joe public, but considering how far up the asses of big media your politicians now are, i consider the second option very likely
Sony has a rather long history of screwing people over, the linux/ps3 thing was just the latest example, and thus tends to be on top of the pile when people go for examples of sony being lying cheating thieving bastards (remember the audio-cd rootkits?)
anyway, anyone who trusts sony further then they can throw em (and i dont mean a ps3, i mean the corporate HQ), gets what they deserve
Also:
*Points at ps3 fanboys screaming over free internet functions* HA-HA!
because a pilot would rather kill himself, the people on board and hundreds of unsuspecting tower-dwellers rather then saying "suck-it" to the guy *claiming* to have a bomb?
Before 9-11 the default MO for plain-jackers was
1) land at airport 2) trade hostages for new fuel/freedom of el presidente 3) profit
So anyone aboard a jacked plane knew, if we co-operate, we will likely survive, even if one or two hostages get offed to make a point. Now on 9-11, that pretty much changed to everyone on board knowing they are dead, unless they regain control of the situation.
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i'm no EXT expert, but isnt EXT4 basically EXT3.1? perhaps it is possible to upgrade a partition in place to EXT4 (might require unmounting etc..)
This is probably far beyond the average ubuntu-user, but a small automated script on next-boot could handle this...
As for forgetting about 8.04 users, ubuntu is like that, short sighted bastards...
same here, yesterday i installed Fedora 13 on my main machine, together with a lovely intel SSD. Havent had much time to try it all out, but so far it is really snappy.
i do have my ubuntu 9.10 partition intact, but if all goes well that will get blown away in a few weeks i imagine..
Dastardly Dick.
Then for the comming releases i suggest 'Malevolent Mutt' and 'Prevalent Pidgeon'
i'm wondering why nasa would fly four crewmembers on the 'just leave it docked to the iss' mission? Columbia's first flight was carried out by two astronauts, and lasted for 54 hours. I would think two astronauts would be able to fly it up to the ISS and dock, then maybe take a few days R&R, then be ferried down in only a single soyuz, instead of two...
also take into account that todays electronics/guidance is at least as advanced as columbia's stuff, this should be a cake-walk for two guys...
Man, i'd love to do that mission myself, much cooler then being packed in that space for two weeks with 7 people..
everytime this comes up i wonder about longevity/service intervals.
Space station modules are made with 5-10 years in zero-G/vacuum in mind, the shuttle is designed with a few weeks of zero-g/vacuum in mind, between service intervals. I realize that launch/re-entry is probably much more demanding then just sitting in orbit, but are the systems on the shuttle capable of running (you wouldnt want to completely shut everything off and simply have it be a dead container i think..) for years on end, with only limited in-orbit service?
Also, i wonder if for this kind of stuff, they would be able to quickly whip up some spacelab derivative, a big module inside the payload bay.. that would greatly increase the living/storage capacity of a permanently docked shuttle..
The payload bay could launch a bus into orbit. You could lift 2 Soyuz into orbit in the payload bay. The capabilities will never be matched in 50 years.
The payload to LEO capacity for the shuttle is 24 metric tons. The us-based Delta IV matches that, the Atlas V exceeds that. The russian Proton carries up to 21 tons, as does the European Ariane V and the US Titan. The proton is set to be replaced in the future by the Angara, who's A5 version can ligt 24.5 tons, the A7 is specced up to 40 tons...
Then there are up and comming private (falcon 9) and among others, chinese, replacements which lift between 25 to 32 tons.
The shuttle's one and only redeeming feature is down-mass, it can de-orbit significant amounts of stuff, however, retrieving a satelite is a pretty rare use-case, and you end up carrying all that extra structure and mass into space everytime you go up, so if you want to launch ~20 tons, there are MUCH better alternatives to the shuttle
hmm, from reading that i see that noatime is much more important than journaling, but i think journaling is also pretty much small writes, so even a small number of bytes might be a large number of writes in the end..
And i think journaling is more relevant to overal lifespan then the kind of block level fragmentation that trim counteracts
awesome, you just made my day :)
i wiki'ed it to be sure, but my first guess when seeing layer 9 was right on the money
i hardly do serious audio on my ubuntu running netbook, but on my main desktop, pulse-audio is just absolute CRAP. if i open a dvd image with VLC, it is pretty much a crapshoot wether the sound actually works, and even if i get some sounds, more then half the time the voice track is missing... or randomly crackles in and out of existence
Honestly, i hate pulse-audio worse then having to fuck around with wireless drivers for days back in ubuntu 6.06...
By the way, it's not about the ability to use it, it's not wanting to be associated with conceded assholes like you.
So you roll your own OS right? I mean pretty much any OS has some conceded assholes as supporters, go meet the apple kool-aid drinkers, or off course the windows crowd..
get a bigger usb drive?
seriously, how much is a 4 or 8gb usb drive these days? and it's not like you'd only use it for booting linux images (in which case i do recommend just burning the disc)
you could also just use that old 80gb usb disk that you threw into the back of the closet when your multi-tb file-server picked up media-storage duties..
oh boo-hoo, what should i have said? my 'box' or 'boxen' or whatever?
Run on back to the BSD forums if all this talk about linux on 'rigs' is to hip for you..
oooh nice, my intel X25-V should also have trim support..
the only thing i'm stuck on is the FS. AFAIK journalling on an SSD is considered BAD, but fedora doesnt want to install on anything but ext4 (with the image i downloaded anyway), so i think format as ext4, mount as ext2?
heh, that reminds me, 8.04 was the ONLY ubuntu release in history to be quickly superceded by 8.04.1, because the original was badly broken..
and yeah, 10.04 might be LTS, but they decided to just completely change half the GUI just because they want to be inspired by 'light' and stuff...
Long Term Support, sure, Stable, not a chance in hell
I have a perfectly good reason for using fedora over ubuntu. Fedora doesnt just fuck half the system up every release just to be new and flashy...
and yeah, what the AC said, USB boot FTW, you just need a 1gb usb stick, which are pretty much free with a box of cereal these days
I'm just trialing Fedora 13 in a VM right now, if i dont run into any showstoppers i'll be ditching ubuntu this week on my main rig
best of all, i have a tasy intel SSD on my desk right now which will be the system-drive for my new fedora install
anyone with me?
Really? What crime exactly? Name the statute. Oh wait, you can't - because at WORST it's a warranty violation, not even covered by any law federal or otherwise!
IANAA (not an american), but i was under the impression that breaking/disabling copy-protecting (which jailbreaking does, you can install otherwise paid-for apps for free) was a violation of the DMCA.
Not sure if this only applies to the original hack which made jailbreaking possible, or to any jailbreak done by joe public, but considering how far up the asses of big media your politicians now are, i consider the second option very likely
corrections are off course, welcome
isnt that Gentoo?
Slackware is slightly more hardcore AFAIK, if you just want to compile to max out ur MEGAHURTZ, gentoo is the way to go
never underestimate the bandwidth of an intercontinental flight full of guys hiding their porn?
*doublechecks his entire collection for cup-size*
this might take a while.. any official word on which cup-size is the minimum?
A gun is no more dangerous than a motor vehicle
You try casually walking into a bank with a ford mustang concealed on your person before donning a clown mask and sticking the place up..
Fact is, a gun's primary (and arguably only real) function is to shoot (at) people, a motor vehicle's primary function isnt running people over..
That's why they incremented the version number from 6.0 (vista) to 6.1 (windows 7), oh wait...
7 is just Vista SP2, a very extensive SP for sure, but a SP none the less
Sony has a rather long history of screwing people over, the linux/ps3 thing was just the latest example, and thus tends to be on top of the pile when people go for examples of sony being lying cheating thieving bastards (remember the audio-cd rootkits?)
anyway, anyone who trusts sony further then they can throw em (and i dont mean a ps3, i mean the corporate HQ), gets what they deserve
Also:
*Points at ps3 fanboys screaming over free internet functions* HA-HA!
i might just be dragging 'us men' down with this, but isnt the definition of 'cougar' a HOT older woman?
What self-respecting heterosexual male would NOT hit that?
because a pilot would rather kill himself, the people on board and hundreds of unsuspecting tower-dwellers rather then saying "suck-it" to the guy *claiming* to have a bomb?
Before 9-11 the default MO for plain-jackers was
1) land at airport
2) trade hostages for new fuel/freedom of el presidente
3) profit
So anyone aboard a jacked plane knew, if we co-operate, we will likely survive, even if one or two hostages get offed to make a point. Now on 9-11, that pretty much changed to everyone on board knowing they are dead, unless they regain control of the situation.